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[812.12 --> 815.70] like oh my gosh like i never anticipated it would be used this way but here it is be used this way |
[815.70 --> 821.80] you know and i have anticipated that you know i've always wanted for get up to grow beyond uh just |
[821.80 --> 828.14] open source right and uh and and it's done that you know so that's that's definitely a success |
[828.14 --> 833.88] um but what it means is that i'm learning a lot right i'm i'm getting lots of feedback because |
[833.88 --> 838.32] now and we're actually last night was kind of where it started coming to a head like there's |
[838.32 --> 844.48] been this mounting tension a little bit uh you know because there's all these activists and using |
[844.48 --> 851.60] gidip and being funded on it there's been a little bit of a disconnect um you know because i'm not a |
[851.60 --> 855.78] feminist i'm not an activist you know what i mean it's like that's that hasn't been my uh you know |
[855.78 --> 863.30] driving concern on gidip and so yeah so i feel like we're just starting to not just starting but |
[863.30 --> 871.20] um i'm i'm looking for how to establish a relationship with those users right those people |
[871.20 --> 876.36] those users of mine on gidip it's like all right um let's talk let's get to know each other let's |
[876.36 --> 880.12] get to know one another let's get to know each other um you know let me understand where you're |
[880.12 --> 884.48] coming from and how you're using the platform what your needs are on it and whatnot and you can get |
[884.48 --> 890.56] to know me a little bit because as you said i am uh you know leading a fairly opinionated online life |
[890.56 --> 896.64] in this uh way of doing open things right open companies and open calls you know i love that we're |
[896.64 --> 902.98] live streaming this here and and i'm very comfortable with that um you know but i'm i'm hearing a lot of |
[902.98 --> 909.14] uh different feedback i'm trying to take that on board and that's that's part of the adventure right now |
[909.14 --> 914.06] yeah it was interesting i saw some i think there was some retweeting going of some gidip i think even the |
[914.06 --> 919.64] getup account perhaps retweeted some criticism coming your way and then i was surprised to find |
[919.64 --> 924.34] that the criticism was coming from one of the top receivers on your home page i love it right yeah |
[924.34 --> 929.20] and i was kind of like oh well that's interesting that's i think it's great you know i mean shanley |
[929.20 --> 936.70] was uh the one i was talking to last night and yeah she is one of the top receivers um and right and |
[936.70 --> 943.58] she's you know a very opinionated person in her own right and has uh you know a fairly brusque |
[943.58 --> 951.28] approach to online conversation and i don't know though it's i don't know oh it felt yeah |
[951.28 --> 958.58] it it's i don't know well you get into a situation where you can really you know like you you know you |
[958.58 --> 963.60] had said you started get up and even let's maybe rewind a tiny bit to kind of give some foundation to |
[963.60 --> 968.64] some of the conversation we're having right now which is and to my understanding you you've started |
[968.64 --> 973.12] this to fund open source to some degree so that's also a reason why it's called gidip and some people |
[973.12 --> 980.56] call it get tip yeah so it stemmed from you know get github you know open source movement um uh-huh |
[980.56 --> 986.30] yeah to definitely to an extent uh you know it started when i first bought the domain i was like oh |
[986.30 --> 991.40] my gosh we need tip jar for github you know i was thinking i was sitting in my in my nice cushy |
[991.40 --> 995.62] corporate job you know totally bored out of my mind and it was like oh i would love to just |
[995.62 --> 1000.20] work on my web framework all day long you know this aspen web framework that i've got like |
[1000.20 --> 1004.78] what would i need to do like why you know what if there were a tip jar on github and then i would |
[1004.78 --> 1009.68] be freed up to work on open source stuff all day long so that was the that was the uh beginning of |
[1009.68 --> 1016.02] it and how i named it get it get tip exactly it was how it started really quickly i mean i think i |
[1016.02 --> 1021.54] invented it in right around this time okay may 11th and then launched it three weeks later was the |
[1021.54 --> 1029.16] zero with payday and you know within those three weeks even uh it it changed from being just uh just |
[1029.16 --> 1033.46] to tip jar for github to you know what this is a lot bigger this could be a lot bigger i actually |
[1033.46 --> 1042.70] almost named it logstown yeah so logstown is the name of the indian village that i that is now |
[1042.70 --> 1048.76] present day ambridge where i live right uh you know so it's just a a local thing here and so i |
[1048.76 --> 1053.90] bought the domains a few years ago logstown comnet norg and you know had those domains sitting around |
[1053.90 --> 1057.92] so i was like well maybe i'll use this i'll use logstown then my brother-in-law's i don't know |
[1057.92 --> 1062.86] funny side story my brother my brother-in-law's like no man that that makes me think i'm going to |
[1062.86 --> 1067.58] the washroom he always calls me washroom it's like it makes me think i'm going to the washroom he's |
[1067.58 --> 1072.30] like just stick with git tip git tip is nice because it has like the itti it's like very |
[1072.30 --> 1077.32] parallel and everything says a nice name you know he's not a geek at all he's a he's a scientist and |
[1077.32 --> 1082.36] a musician but he's not a programmer uh necessarily not an open source guy uh yeah so he was like just |
[1082.36 --> 1087.28] call it git tip it's okay this is like all right well you know he didn't know anything about github or |
[1087.28 --> 1092.16] anything right he just thought the name was you know cool and memorable or whatever yeah and didn't |
[1092.16 --> 1098.54] like logstown so so right but my point is that even even by the time we launched uh you know i was |
[1098.54 --> 1103.56] already thinking that this is going to be bigger than open source uh you know but that's you're |
[1103.56 --> 1109.32] right that's where it started so now i like to say that that git tip is related to github in the same |
[1109.32 --> 1115.50] way that wiki leaks is related to wikipedia yeah you know in other words they're not really connected |
[1115.50 --> 1120.76] at all but through this historical accident uh you know there's some a little bit of brand confusion |
[1120.76 --> 1124.54] going on there but i think there's some you have some signal signaling uh towards that end on the |
[1124.54 --> 1129.16] home page where it's who inspires you and there's a form and it's enter a twitter username yeah that's |
[1129.16 --> 1134.24] what you start and github is in the select box but it's not the first thing right right right yeah |
[1134.24 --> 1139.98] yeah exactly you know so so it's awesome that um you know that shanley and ash and everybody else |
[1139.98 --> 1147.08] uh you know not that they're not all programmers but you know more folks dot activism i mean that's |
[1147.08 --> 1150.54] great that's perfect that's what we want we want but you know i want it to expand |
[1150.54 --> 1155.80] uh beyond open source and it's done that so that's you know that's a that's a a win in my |
[1155.80 --> 1160.20] view from the past year um but yeah we are having some interesting conversations around |
[1160.20 --> 1168.12] you know the whole open company idea and what that means uh you know how how you balance |
[1168.12 --> 1173.70] okay so my goal with open companies get if we call it an open company meaning we share as much as |
[1173.70 --> 1179.08] possible we charge as little as possible and then we're funded on a pay what you want basis on |
[1179.08 --> 1187.34] get it itself and you know my driving motivation open company is not an end in itself for me open |
[1187.34 --> 1194.94] company is part of uh this vision of living a life of gratitude and generosity you know i don't i don't |
[1194.94 --> 1198.74] want to hide my stuff i don't i don't want to i don't want to work on proprietary things i want to |
[1198.74 --> 1204.04] share the stuff i work on i want to give this stuff away for free that i work on you know um it just |
[1204.04 --> 1208.78] as a matter of principle and how i want to live my life i want to i want to share what i have um as |
[1208.78 --> 1215.56] much as possible and you know so that's where i'm coming from with open companies but then uh you know |
[1215.56 --> 1220.66] what shanley was feeding back last night and i've heard from others is you know it's really threatening |
[1220.66 --> 1224.48] if you experience a lot of harassment online to think about i have to sneeze one sec |
[1224.48 --> 1233.32] the first super loud sneeze on the changelog that was an epic sneeze wasn't it i did manage to get |
[1233.32 --> 1240.56] my microphone away from my face that's awesome like a looney tunes cartoon yeah there you go um |
[1240.56 --> 1249.72] right so uh so what i'm hearing is you know there's there's people for whom uh you know the internet is |
[1249.72 --> 1254.78] a very much more threatening place than it is for me right and you're getting lots of death threats |
[1254.78 --> 1262.52] and rape threats and whatnot and that's really you know uh terrible right that's horrible like uh you |
[1262.52 --> 1272.36] know goodness sorry um and so you know for someone like that the idea of putting even more online and |
[1272.36 --> 1279.48] you know exposing yourself even more uh you know obviously comes across as like a wtf right |
[1279.48 --> 1285.46] yeah um yeah you know but that that's the conversation we're having i think we're dancing |
[1285.46 --> 1290.74] on this idea of radical transparency i think that's really what the the phrase that was being used and |
[1290.74 --> 1296.66] it's uh we even said you know you're infamous to some degree because not only have you had maybe some |
[1296.66 --> 1301.84] abrasions here but also with journalists that don't really appease to the way you want to operate |
[1301.84 --> 1308.02] of being open so you've kind of had some angst and some um abrasions with other people too so it's not |
[1308.02 --> 1312.78] just your user base it's it's others too because you want to be radically transparent about who you |
[1312.78 --> 1318.08] are and what you do with your company what you're doing for the community yeah yeah i mean i don't |
[1318.08 --> 1324.52] okay so i don't experience it as abrasions right i i mean it's an opportunity cost when i um turned |
[1324.52 --> 1329.84] down tech crunch that was kind of kicked a lot of this off you know i got an interview uh opportunity |
[1329.84 --> 1335.40] with tech crunch and i had just been starting to experiment with uh i think i'd started using the |
[1335.40 --> 1339.90] phrase open company at that point but uh you know hadn't started really pushing open calls and |
[1339.90 --> 1345.08] whatnot and you know decided to heard from tech crunch and you know said all right i'm gonna go |
[1345.08 --> 1350.00] for it let's do this as an open call and it's an opportunity cost right because like i know that |
[1350.00 --> 1354.64] there's a pretty good chance they're gonna say no right and it's my decision to live with the |
[1354.64 --> 1360.72] consequences they say no and i don't get an interview in tech crunch and so like i'm fine with |
[1360.72 --> 1366.54] that right like i'm fine not getting an interview in tech crunch so i don't you know i'm not and then |
[1366.54 --> 1373.14] more recently um jason calacanis reached out to me on email uh the the angel investor uh reached out |
[1373.14 --> 1378.84] to me on email and and podcaster in his own right etc entrepreneur he reached out to me on email and |
[1378.84 --> 1382.66] said um you know would you like to have you know i'm interested in having a conversation with you and i |
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