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[3170.28 --> 3175.50] unfortunately a private repo it's uh some a project code named veer which no one's seen but i've |
[3175.50 --> 3180.12] talked about it a lot of my blogs i'm building a text-based mmorpg in pearl |
[3180.12 --> 3188.76] when's that going to get out there i'm hoping to have christmas by christmas i'm hoping to have an |
[3188.76 --> 3194.30] elf out by the end of next year we actually might have a new developer being pulled up in on it this |
[3194.30 --> 3199.74] year uh there's actually been mmorpgs written in pearl before but this one um i found an interesting |
[3199.74 --> 3205.48] niche in the market which is completely uncovered and which was a lot of fun so i'm just building a |
[3205.48 --> 3210.92] science fiction world a true rpg not one of these things you just click around on like bulletin boards |
[3210.92 --> 3216.76] on the web but it's text-based so i'm having a lot of fun with that otherwise i would tell people |
[3216.76 --> 3222.96] check out my test class moose repository if you're interested in pearl and you need to build a large |
[3222.96 --> 3230.04] scale test suite it's much much better than many of the other alternatives out there for the same |
[3230.04 --> 3234.14] reason you wouldn't build a huge website today without choosing an appropriate framework you don't want |
[3234.14 --> 3240.30] to build a huge test suite without choosing an appropriate framework we can't uh we can't |
[3240.30 --> 3245.22] obviously close this show unless we ask the the notorious question which is who is your programming |
[3245.22 --> 3249.36] hero and i figure with uh some of the names you've mentioned today you probably either will repeat |
[3249.36 --> 3255.94] them or you'll have new heroes to mention so um let us know who your hero is oh you're not going to |
[3255.94 --> 3265.22] believe me my programming heroes are my cobalt professors in college um the reason for that is |
[3265.22 --> 3271.12] so my java instructors i remember our very first java instructor she was fresh out of uni and she had |
[3271.12 --> 3276.94] trouble explaining the difference between a class and an instance and it didn't appear that she was a bad |
[3276.94 --> 3282.96] teacher she just seemed a little confused on the concept my second java instructor um i accidentally |
[3282.96 --> 3287.92] turned in some code with some j unit tests and he was confused and kicked it back and said he didn't |
[3287.92 --> 3294.18] understand what that was um i've had this happen with um professors in a number of different programming |
[3294.18 --> 3299.32] languages who's who just didn't have real world experience but the cobalt teachers they had actually |
[3299.32 --> 3306.64] come back in from the field many many years of experience and were able to give a class full of students who |
[3306.64 --> 3314.42] were often you know not very interested or you know not very responsive excellent real world descriptions |
[3314.42 --> 3321.10] of what you need and i still remember the time i was trying to sign up for a c class at a uni and they |
[3321.10 --> 3326.40] told me we don't offer c anymore because the future is object-oriented and c is obsolete |
[3326.40 --> 3336.78] yes completely ivory tower but the cobalt developers they the programmers the professors they understood |
[3336.78 --> 3342.36] that okay it's not the most popular thing out there but they had tons of real world experience which they |
[3342.36 --> 3347.26] were able to communicate in a way that my other professors didn't and they were some of the best |
[3347.26 --> 3351.86] examples i had of what we actually need out there for teaching the next generation of students |
[3351.86 --> 3358.70] the combination between deep theory that is really useful at surprising times but the real world |
[3358.70 --> 3366.24] pragmatism of i gotta get stuff done so they are my programming heroes even though no one knows their |
[3366.24 --> 3373.46] name no one cares about them they're the ones that we need to see a lot more of you know often uh you |
[3373.46 --> 3378.88] know teachers end up being heroes anyways that's just a good thing at least you know on this show reach |
[3378.88 --> 3383.86] back out to them i wonder if uh if they happen to know that uh they're your heroes money chance |
[3383.86 --> 3390.64] but i should find out and contact them what'd you say i said i should find out and contact them at some |
[3390.64 --> 3395.66] point yeah i mean because you know anytime you've touched somebody's life it's it's nice to know because |
[3395.66 --> 3400.54] it's it's sort of like this uh pay it forward you know for teachers they don't always see the fruits of their |
[3400.54 --> 3405.04] labor uh they don't have the luxury of instant gratification you know that's sort of like |
[3405.04 --> 3409.90] plant a seed and it grows over years and years and years and often oftentimes that person goes on |
[3409.90 --> 3414.64] to do great things and i'll be nuts to that person but i know that i've got a couple heroes who are |
[3414.64 --> 3420.68] like that so just saying but okay curtis it's uh it's definitely been a pleasure having you on the |
[3420.68 --> 3425.30] show i think that uh you've given jared and i uh some food for thought so to speak on on the pro |
[3425.30 --> 3430.28] community and the pro ecosystem and how we can sort of support that in in our own way here at the |
[3430.28 --> 3436.36] changelog to just help with this communication and marketing divide of pearl five versus six and |
[3436.36 --> 3441.48] just in general what's happening it seems like you got a lot of fun great things happening that uh |
[3441.48 --> 3447.00] that just need a maybe a clear i don't even i don't even know how to say it but i'm sure there's |
[3447.00 --> 3450.36] some way we can help so we'll we'll do whatever we can to to help you and help the pro community |
[3450.36 --> 3454.76] um we do want to mention a couple sponsors to help make this show possible before we close out |
[3454.76 --> 3461.96] code ship rack space and status page dot io all great sponsors of the show we uh we couldn't do |
[3461.96 --> 3467.86] without their help so uh curtis jared let's uh let's say goodbye adam jared thank you very much |
[3467.86 --> 3468.38] i had a blast |
[3484.76 --> 3507.08] all right guess no bye from jared i forgot to say goodbye |
[3507.08 --> 3515.42] i had to say goodbye real quick goodbye just don't worry about oh i had my thing you've got |
[3515.42 --> 3521.76] to include that in the clip i was muted the podcast i was i was muted i said goodbye to myself |
[3521.76 --> 3526.76] on mute that's funny i'm like i felt like i said goodbye |
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