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**Erik St. Martin:** ...through the airwaves. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's alright. I think we talked about this a little bit last week - humility on the internet. I am perfectly happy to be wrong every day and have people tell me that, because I learn from it. So I'm accepting the fact that I'm wrong now, too. |
**Scott Mansfield:** I would like to point out that the authors of different tools are actually talking to each other now, which is great. They are starting to try to find a middle ground or some kind of consensus on like what a lock file should be, or what kind of dependency resolution you should do... So there is mov... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, that's actually a good observation. I kind of noticed that, too. In the earlier days of people talking dependency management, it was "We don't need it", and then it was like, "Okay, maybe we need it a little bit", and then there was like five tools, and then there were ten tools, and there wa... |
So yeah, I'm interested to see how it comes along and how long that takes. |
**Scott Mansfield:** And actually a lot of the discussion is happening in Slack, there's a vendor channel that people are talking in, so if you wanna follow along, you can see the discussions happening, and of course, voice your own opinion if you feel the need, Brian. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Just keep it civil. That's a touchy subject for Go developers, and our Gopher Slack has a very specific code of conduct. If you're gonna touch something as deep as vendoring, just remember to be adult. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think that this show has become "Learn a new Slack channel every week." |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[laughs\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** Because every week somebody mentions a new channel, and like "Wow, I didn't know that existed." |
**Carlisia Thompson:** \[43:50\] And something about channels on Gopher Slack for people who are listening... Hop onto the GoTime FM channel, because we can all multitask here, we are very good at that and you wouldn't believe this. We have Adam tweeting for us, and we are all on the channel also typing, our guests are... |
**Erik St. Martin:** And if you hackle us enough like Scott did, we might drag your butt on the show. \[laughter\] |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Exactly. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** As punishment. Now, is that concurrency or parallelism, Carlisia? |
**Carlisia Thompson:** It's concurrency, for sure. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Okay. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah. \[laughs\] Good question. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** On that note, one of the things that I wanted to bring up this week is the season three of Beyond Code, which featured GopherCon 2015. That's launching this Saturday, and it's going to be in the show notes for this call. Beyond Code Season 3 has interviews from lots of the people that went to Gopher... |
**Erik St. Martin:** And both Carlisia and Brian are on there. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah. \[laughter\] Completely by chance. And I also want to mention that it was very late at night, they were way on the back of the bar - this was at one of the after-parties; there were so many, I can't even remember. It was huge, they were way at the back... So just by the time I got to the en... |
**Erik St. Martin:** This is real. This is people. It's beyond code. Beyond code is the bar. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** It is the real deal. But Adam was so great... The power of making people feel comfortable behind the camera - amazing. They're gonna be at GopherCon again. I highly recommend it, just do it. It's fun. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It was like looking at a time capsule. That was me a year ago, talking about Go, and talking about things... It was fun to watch. |
**Erik St. Martin:** You made the comment in that - I think it's in the intro video we'll link to... I'm sure Adam, if he hasn't sent it now, is sending it on the Twitter... So you made the comment, something like "Everything interesting in the computing world is either written in Go or soon will be." How do you feel a... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's true. If you think about the things that are really shaking up our industry right now, there's a shortlist, and on them are containers; the entire container industry is driven by Go, whether it's Docker or Kubernetes - all of those pieces are written in Go. A plethora of tools that are coming o... |
**Scott Mansfield:** I find this interesting, that it directly contradicts Atwood's Law, which is "Any application that can be written in JavaScript will eventually be written in JavaScript." \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I think that's actually also true, because I'm pretty sure there's already a JavaScript container engine. |
**Erik St. Martin:** \[47:51\] Right. I was gonna say, when we get off this call I'm gonna have to Google 'containers in JavaScript'. If it's not written in JavaScript, there is probably at least bindings. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, I'm sure there is. I realize it's a bold statement, but I think it's less hyperbole than it sounds. There's a lot of really interesting stuff happening in Go, and a lot of the great things happening in computing right now have Go in the middle of them somewhere. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think you're right, and we see more and more coming. I mean, look, we have Scott on the show, and by next year he's gonna have - I don't know, at least ten more teams inside Netflix using Go. Right, Scott? |
**Scott Mansfield:** Sure, I just need to convince them to move away from our big old Java platform. |
**Erik St. Martin:** And changing the wheels on a moving bus is never difficult, ever. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** But look at the GopherCon sponsor list, as an example. There are companies on there that you wouldn't even have thought touched Go a year or two ago. There's some real surprises in there, it's really awesome to see it. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Alright... So I think we're actually running overtime a little bit. Typically, each show we do kind of like a \#FreeSoftwareFriday, where each of us lists a project, thanking them for making our lives easier. Who wants to kick this thing off? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I will. I stumbled across Jessie Frazelle's dotfiles about six months ago, and I realized - I think it was yesterday, perhaps - that instead of doing a Google search or hitting Wikipedia or something like that, I really just needed to look in her dotfiles anytime I had a question about how to do som... |
**Erik St. Martin:** So these were just your same defaults by Jessie? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, it's so much more than same defaults by Jessie. This is unicorns and rainbows in your shell. It's everything. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I know we looked for them for a couple of configurations, I can't remember what they were for. She had linked them to us on Twitter a while back. I think it was for using Mutt. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I put in the show notes "Zero to Awesome in one git clone." I stand by it. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's awesome. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I'll go next... I'll follow Brian's lead and not mention a software per se, because I couldn't come up with one today. I will mention this open source book that I've been going through, it's called Network Programming With Go. So much of Go is used for systems programming and networking, and I've... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Nice. And Scott, how about you? Do you have anybody you wanna thank? |
**Scott Mansfield:** Well, I think I'm gonna take the cheap way out and just say Go. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's not cheap. |
**Scott Mansfield:** \[51:51\] Honestly though, the standard library being open source has allowed me to have a much deeper understanding of what actually happens when I say, for example, 'bufio' without 'write', or something like that. It matters a lot for us. Being able to just very quickly go from docs to source cod... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, and I don't think we consider that cheating. I think it's the one thing that makes all of our lives easier, all the time. |
To everybody's point, we use only a couple of tools every day, so I think we've gotta start stepping outside the box. For me - and I know I'm gonna pronounce this wrong, because I don't think I've ever heard anybody pronounce it, but it's actually a project called Radare, or Radare2, rather. It's not something I use ev... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Tomorrow? |
**Erik St. Martin:** Later today, you know... Alright so with that said, I think we are probably well over time at this point. I wanna thank everybody for being on the show, I wanna thank everybody for listening. Everybody who is chatting with us in the GoTimeFM channel on Slack. We are on iTunes too, so now everybody ... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Somebody needs to turn down the bass on Erik's voice. |
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