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**Carlisia Thompson:** We don't have that yet. Brad, what do you think of organizing something like that? |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** I don't know what this is. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** So this like like - correct me if I'm wrong, Brian - taking a couple days and saying "During these couple days..." -- well, first of all, the maintainers have to come up with a list of issues to be taken care of. We just do a global effort and say, "During these couple days, we're going to come t... |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** Oh, I see... Like a bug burndown, or a fix-it week, or something like that. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Exactly. Each language, each community has a different name. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, the emphasis though is to create engagement in people who previously may not have had some, so... Rather than spending the five minutes to fix the tiny bug yourself, you spend 20 minutes making it really easy for someone to get in and do it who hasn't committed patches before. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Exactly. |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** This is something that's actually been on my to-do list for the last three months now, I guess. One of the things I was supposed to do last quarter is do a blog posts saying how to contribute to Go and how to get involved with this sort of stuff, but I keep putting it off because I want more dashb... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, and I think the argument too is I think the Bugmash or -- there's another name for it, Ruby had one... I don't feel like it was called Bugmash... It was something along those lines. But that's a lot of times for people who want to contribute the code, and a lot of people when they're just get... |
One of the things I've seen in meetups too is a lot of people -- it takes them a long time to get the confidence to submit a changelist. They're always afraid that they're gonna get beat down... And sometimes you do, but people take it different ways. I think helping with the gardening is a way to build that confidence... |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** We at least have the Slack channel now for reviewers... The [reviews](https://gophers.slack.com/messages/C029WG6AM) one on the GopherSlack, so people can hang out there that are triaging stuff and doing gardening. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I didn't know this existed. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I did not know that existed either... But I think any community effort to bring people together and have a little bit of support to get over the hump of getting set up, and having the motivation to get set up, because they know there's going to be a list of issues that are easy enough for them to... |
For example, I had never contributed to Go at all, but yesterday I took a little bit of time to get set up, and it was like "I wanna add one line of text, but I have to get through this whole set up"... Which, by the way, was very simple. It took a little bit of time, but it was very simple. |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** I personally hate our contributing process and that document that's so long and it scares so many people... There's not really many steps, but there's so many words around it that people see it and they just run away screaming and say "Why don't you use GitHub?" |
The answer is we probably should... I mean, when we transitioned to GitHub, it was kind of a really quick, forced migration because code.google.com was shutting down, so GitHub was the obvious place and they had the bug tracker, but we weren't really ready to give up Garrett, because code reviews on GitHub historically... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, because like I was saying, it was not hard to do, but it took a little bit of time, and it was a time that I broke down; like, I would read the paragraph and then do one thing, then go do something else... Like, "Argh! I don't wanna go through this whole thing!" So I went back and forth, an... |
Now that I went through it, I pulled the code, I put down the blog, the website inside the Go project... If I wanna make a documentation change, it's so simple. I just sync. It's business as usual. I start a branch, and -- I don't know the terminology, but using the Git terminology, I just push. |
Now that I have it there, it's super simple. I just have to find, "Okay, what contributions can I make, based on what's out there that you need?" That goes back to my point on having some Bugmash event - that'd be super cool. |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** Yeah, well now that you've spent the hours setting it up, now you need to fix a bunch of bugs to amortize that time. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Exactly. \[laughs\] Got my time's worth. |
**Erik St. Martin:** The other thing that people might not be familiar with if you're just looking for stuff is there's a _Help Wanted_ tag in the GitHub for Go. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, I was going through that right now. |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** People always ask for us to use that more; they want more things... But I'm kind of against that label because we never seem to be able to use it correctly because there's never really a great definition of what it means. People want like an _Easy_ or a _Beginner Friendly_ label, but the problem i... |
If something was truly trivial for everyone, it would have been fixed by now. We never really know -- and _Help Wanted_ is kind of a silly label too, because we want help on every bug. I've been using _Help Wanted_ more and more lately, but I basically just add it to everything... Which is fine, but I don't know. I fee... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, there was a project that I contributed to and I can't remember what it is - it might have been Ruby, or something... Their label was _Bite-Sized_, or something along those lines, which was kind of more like you could fit it in in one sitting - most people anyway - rather than bigger implement... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** We need a _GenericsMash_. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I wanna say something about the _Beginner_ label... I had an experience - when I was first starting to learn Go, I went to this big open source project, and they had a label for beginners (or _Easy_ or something) and I was going through the issues and I'm like "Holy smokes! This is hard. If this ... |
But like Brad was saying, if you label something that sounds like beginner level for you, it could be very complex for somebody else coming in. You can really get people freaked out. You've gotta be careful with those labels, but I like the idea of labeling based on bite-size or time chunks... That's good. |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** Well, a lot of times you don't know until you get in there, how gnarly is gonna be. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** True, that's another thing. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So I think we are a little overtime for our first sponsor break... Let's go ahead and take that. Our first sponsor for today is Toptal. |
**Break:** \[24:30\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** Alright, so we are back, talking to Brad Fitzpatrick. We were talking about Go and contributing before the break, but one thing I wanna lead into is you've always got these cool hobby projects going on... What's something cool you're working on right now? |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** I mean, I moved to Seattle recently, so I've been working on lots of miscellaneous home automation stuff. We got a bunch of Z-wave light switches, and I got some cheapo security cameras and I've been working on doing my own motion detection... |
Actually, it was the last GopherCon that I gave a lightning talk about my motion detection security system. That's something like, whenever I have a few minutes I try to improve that a little bit. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Are you doing that in Go, or are you just using [OpenCV](https://opencv.org/)? |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** No, it's almost all Go. I have a little Go server in the house that connects to the cameras, and gets their compressed MPEG stream of the video, and then I stream it outside of the house to a cloud instance that has more compute power. Then I have little FFMPEG child\_process that decodes the vide... |
It's always recording the last 5 or 6 seconds, even when there's nothing in little rolling ring buffer, but once there's motion, then I start streaming it to an object on cloud storage. |
I have little processes in the background that go and generate GIFs from them, little two-second GIFs, selecting the right frames to make the most interesting GIF possible. Then I can send those on Telegram, or whatever. It's kind of fun. |
**Erik St. Martin:** You have all the raw video streaming out of your house to the cloud... Your ISP must love you. |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** I have Gigabit, it's cool... |
**Erik St. Martin:** That's awesome. Speaking of projects that are over people's heads - I don't know whether I could build something like that that does all the EDGE detection and things like that... That's awesome. You need random captions for the GIFs, too... |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** Yeah, I was thinking of throwing it through the Google Vision API or something, and identifying objects... I found some cats that were playing on my front porch the other day, because they set off the motion detection. There was like a black cat and a grey cat that were chasing each other... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That would be cool! So you could get a text message that said "There are cats in your backyard." |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** Cat alert. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I like that. |
**Erik St. Martin:** The other thing too, you always have the skyline pictures... Are you doing something with that, or is that just kind of like in a set interval and you're just storing them? |
**Brad Fitzpatrick:** When I first moved in, I wanted to do something with that. There were all these cranes in Seattle, and I wanted to have a time-lapse of all these new skyscrapers going up... So I put a camera on the roof, and I have a picture every minute uploaded to a cloud storage. I'm up to like 780,000 of thes... |
**Erik St. Martin:** You know, it's really good that you work for a cloud provider, because I don't think anybody would want to have the bills that you probably have for it... \[laughs\] |
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