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[2191.20 --> 2191.94] I love this story. |
[2191.94 --> 2193.54] I mean, there's a theme here. |
[2193.80 --> 2208.92] Every great product dogfoods itself and the developers and the product and the entire team that works on it uses it on a daily basis, understands the shortcomings and fixes them maybe before even uses C, those problems. |
[2209.06 --> 2210.02] I think there's a theme here. |
[2210.34 --> 2212.74] But how do you use Parka for Parka? |
[2213.00 --> 2215.66] This question and the answer fascinates me. |
[2215.66 --> 2215.96] Yeah. |
[2216.08 --> 2225.96] So actually, this is a cool topic that I think we even want to run blog post series about, because I think there are just so many aspects to this that I would love to talk about. |
[2226.06 --> 2227.14] Can we have a short answer? |
[2227.48 --> 2231.82] Because this is a short piece, but it's obvious that we need a much longer one. |
[2231.82 --> 2232.32] Yeah. |
[2232.50 --> 2239.62] So basically, like boiled down, Parka itself is a really performance sensitive software, right? |
[2239.66 --> 2247.82] It has a specifically designed storage and query engine so that we can actually do all of these amazing things with continuous profiling. |
[2248.04 --> 2250.56] So we use Parka to optimize Parka. |
[2250.56 --> 2253.10] And so this is kind of a vicious cycle, right? |
[2253.14 --> 2262.64] Because we keep creating this more and more performance software to create more and more performance software to do even more powerful things to optimize it even further. |
[2262.96 --> 2266.06] And so it's kind of, it's really addicting almost. |
[2266.38 --> 2266.86] I love that. |
[2266.98 --> 2267.42] I love that. |
[2267.48 --> 2268.38] We do the same thing. |
[2268.46 --> 2269.44] I'm a big fan of that. |
[2269.54 --> 2270.04] That's it. |
[2270.22 --> 2270.78] That loop. |
[2271.02 --> 2272.34] It's one of my favorite loops. |
[2272.72 --> 2273.14] Amazing. |
[2273.14 --> 2282.90] So just to switch gears a little bit and think about the KubeCon and what's going to happen this week, what are you looking forward the most at this KubeCon? |
[2283.26 --> 2284.40] Is there something that you're looking forward to? |
[2284.64 --> 2290.36] I think, of course, this probably reflects my own interests quite a lot and what we do with Parka as well. |
[2290.76 --> 2298.36] But I'm really excited about how the eBPF space is evolving into more of a production ready state, if that makes sense. |
[2298.36 --> 2307.56] I feel like it's very similar to the first hype wave of service mesh that we had where everybody was talking about it, but no one was using it. |
[2307.92 --> 2317.86] And then one or two KubeCons after that, suddenly there were all these great stories about how people were actually running it and using it in really useful ways, right? |
[2317.86 --> 2329.76] And so I feel like we're kind of at a turning point with eBPF as well, where so many people have gotten their hands on it that we're suddenly seeing all these really incredible applications for it. |
[2330.04 --> 2334.24] And so I'm really looking forward to a bunch of the eBPF talks that are coming out. |
[2334.60 --> 2335.64] Any specific talks? |
[2335.98 --> 2345.20] There's one by Derek Parker who works on the Delve debugger, which is kind of the de facto debugger in the Go community. |
[2345.20 --> 2347.84] I think he's doing some really interesting things. |
[2348.32 --> 2351.70] There's even some integrations into the debugger with eBPF. |
[2351.86 --> 2353.22] I find that really interesting. |
[2353.80 --> 2361.82] But the really cool thing about eBPF is almost its unpredictability of what you can do with it. |
[2362.42 --> 2369.34] Because it allows us to do such wild things anywhere in the kernel attached to any kind of event, |
[2369.34 --> 2377.04] people have come up with super innovative things that we were able to do in the past with kernel modules. |
[2377.20 --> 2382.08] But let's be honest, nobody really enjoyed the user experience of that. |
[2382.42 --> 2387.78] And now all of these things are being productionized and I'm just really excited about all the possibilities. |
[2388.28 --> 2389.44] That sounds interesting. |
[2389.70 --> 2393.36] So anything eBPF related, that's where your interest is. |
[2393.94 --> 2395.94] And you, Derek Parker, did you say? |
[2396.08 --> 2396.28] Yeah. |
[2396.28 --> 2396.64] Okay. |
[2396.80 --> 2398.12] I've heard Derek Parker. |
[2398.48 --> 2399.30] Derek Parker. |
[2399.54 --> 2399.68] Okay. |
[2400.26 --> 2400.92] That's a good one. |
[2401.96 --> 2403.16] Park everywhere, right? |
[2403.28 --> 2403.98] That is completely unintentional. |
[2404.10 --> 2405.22] Yeah, that's what happens. |
[2405.88 --> 2408.98] And I'm imagining that you're not going to attend the conference in person, right? |
[2409.18 --> 2409.50] Yeah. |
[2409.70 --> 2418.30] Unfortunately, you know, as much as I would have wanted to, unfortunately, travel restrictions are still in place for Europe to travel to the US. |
[2418.30 --> 2418.60] Yeah. |
[2418.60 --> 2421.50] But, you know, there's always another KubeCon. |
[2421.78 --> 2423.04] Yeah, it was the same for me. |
[2423.14 --> 2423.52] You're right. |
[2423.64 --> 2425.10] I really wanted to be there in person. |
[2425.70 --> 2437.04] So what advice do you have for those that couldn't attend and will be attending virtually and some will be catching up on the videos because they won't be able to attend virtually because of the time difference? |
[2437.04 --> 2443.18] Yeah, I mean, look, it's like half of the world that's not able to attend this KubeCon, so you're not alone. |
[2443.52 --> 2452.06] I know there are several folks that are doing just, you know, local meetups or local virtual meetups or just, you know, going for lunch or something. |
[2452.52 --> 2453.46] Find your local group. |
[2453.46 --> 2455.46] Or if not, just watch the recordings. |
[2456.30 --> 2461.64] The platforms have become so much better since the first time we've done these virtual conferences. |
[2462.00 --> 2465.60] Just try to be a part of it as much as you can, given the circumstances. |
[2465.98 --> 2471.96] And, you know, we've got KubeCon EU coming up next year and it's at the end of the winter, right? |
[2472.04 --> 2477.12] So no matter what happens, that's kind of the time when COVID cases went down anyways. |
[2477.34 --> 2480.62] I feel like the next KubeCon in EU is going to be great. |
[2480.62 --> 2483.90] A lot of us are going to be able to attend that one, if not this one. |
[2484.10 --> 2484.92] Those are some great tips. |
[2485.26 --> 2489.22] Is there anything interesting happening in the next six months for Parka that you want to share? |
[2489.42 --> 2498.78] I think in a way, a lot of what we're, we shared it really early intentionally to understand what the community also wants from a project like this. |
[2499.00 --> 2510.32] Like we intentionally did not immediately release multiple types of visualizations or we didn't immediately go all in on a query language or stuff like that. |
[2510.32 --> 2521.22] We do think these things are on the horizon, but it's just so much, you're going to create something so much better when you work with a community and talk to a lot of people. |
[2521.22 --> 2531.64] It's just like creating any product, you know, but we just feel like we owe it to the open source community because really the open source community has made us who we are today. |
[2531.64 --> 2537.44] And so if we can give back a little bit of that, then we've achieved our goal, you know. |
[2537.70 --> 2537.82] Wow. |
[2537.94 --> 2538.56] That's amazing. |
[2538.90 --> 2541.06] I wish everybody thought like that. |
[2541.36 --> 2544.48] And I think most people think like that in the CNCF space. |
[2544.64 --> 2547.04] And it just goes to show, that's it. |
[2547.18 --> 2552.06] This right here is the reason why the CNCF is as successful because people think like you do. |
[2552.26 --> 2553.34] It's amazing to see that. |
[2553.34 --> 2561.56] The one thing which I would like to do as we are wrapping this up is I want to congratulate you on the hiring page, which I think is a baseline for others to follow. |
[2561.80 --> 2562.54] It's simple. |
[2562.74 --> 2563.52] It's to the point. |
[2563.66 --> 2564.34] It's inviting. |
[2564.92 --> 2567.20] It makes me want to find out more. |
[2567.38 --> 2568.46] And that is saying a lot. |
[2568.46 --> 2573.80] So I would like to congratulate you once again, like well done for striking such a great balance. |
[2574.22 --> 2578.96] And I'm sure that it's so simple because a lot of thinking went into it and a lot of refinement. |
[2579.52 --> 2582.70] And again, I'm seeing a trend here, which I really like. |
[2583.04 --> 2583.88] That's been great to see. |
[2584.14 --> 2584.42] Thank you. |
[2584.56 --> 2584.88] Thank you. |
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