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[2350.66 --> 2350.88] right
[2350.88 --> 2351.42] it was like
[2351.42 --> 2352.70] if I remember the
[2352.70 --> 2354.10] kind of genesis of copyright
[2354.10 --> 2355.16] or the vague genesis
[2355.16 --> 2355.64] it's like
[2355.64 --> 2357.08] we want to protect people
[2357.08 --> 2358.70] like make it so they can profit
[2358.70 --> 2359.82] off of their creative work
[2359.82 --> 2360.68] for some time
[2360.68 --> 2362.00] but then it goes back
[2362.00 --> 2363.30] into the general pool of things
[2363.30 --> 2363.96] so we can kind of
[2363.96 --> 2365.46] continue making progress forward
[2365.46 --> 2366.34] yeah boy
[2366.34 --> 2367.44] that sustainability question
[2367.44 --> 2368.20] is a big one Chris
[2368.20 --> 2369.10] and I really don't know
[2369.10 --> 2370.48] I'd like to say that
[2370.48 --> 2372.32] we have a real clear answer to it
[2372.32 --> 2372.78] I mean certainly
[2372.78 --> 2373.64] I think that Tidelift
[2373.64 --> 2375.42] is part of the answer to that
[2375.42 --> 2377.32] but I think it's a really good question
[2377.32 --> 2377.90] to be asking
[2377.90 --> 2378.28] and I
[2378.28 --> 2379.76] that heresy
[2379.76 --> 2382.02] it is an elephant in the room
[2382.02 --> 2383.50] that a lot of people
[2383.50 --> 2384.78] I gotta say
[2384.78 --> 2385.72] I get a little frustrated
[2385.72 --> 2386.62] when an employee
[2386.62 --> 2387.82] of a trillion dollar company
[2387.82 --> 2388.30] is like
[2388.30 --> 2389.34] I don't know
[2389.34 --> 2390.32] paying people
[2390.32 --> 2392.54] open source seems to work fine for me
[2392.54 --> 2392.98] I'm like
[2392.98 --> 2393.88] well yeah
[2393.88 --> 2395.56] because you literally work
[2395.56 --> 2396.80] for a trillion dollar company
[2396.80 --> 2398.52] but a lot of the software
[2398.52 --> 2399.52] you rely on
[2399.52 --> 2400.50] and you're certainly
[2400.50 --> 2402.04] that of your customers rely on
[2402.04 --> 2403.90] they don't have that luxury
[2403.90 --> 2404.44] right
[2404.44 --> 2406.18] it is the kind of thing
[2406.18 --> 2407.14] you know
[2407.14 --> 2407.92] you got a puppy
[2407.92 --> 2409.48] puppies are often more fun
[2409.48 --> 2411.08] than replying to pull requests
[2411.08 --> 2412.14] from automated bots
[2412.14 --> 2413.26] and Chris
[2413.26 --> 2414.04] I think it's
[2414.04 --> 2415.36] I think one of the interesting things
[2415.36 --> 2416.92] we've been a little backward focused
[2416.92 --> 2418.66] but I think there's a lot of cool stuff
[2418.66 --> 2419.22] you know
[2419.22 --> 2421.10] I know we're flying through this time
[2421.10 --> 2423.56] I think there's a lot of interesting questions
[2423.56 --> 2424.08] about this
[2424.08 --> 2425.20] you know future looking
[2425.20 --> 2427.14] around machine learning
[2427.14 --> 2427.82] co-pilot
[2427.82 --> 2428.38] things like that
[2428.38 --> 2429.02] and part of those
[2429.02 --> 2430.26] go to what you're saying
[2430.26 --> 2431.10] you know Chris
[2431.10 --> 2431.48] you were saying
[2431.48 --> 2432.96] well the original motivation
[2432.96 --> 2434.60] for copyright was to
[2434.60 --> 2436.44] well there's sort of three
[2436.44 --> 2438.54] original motivations for copyright
[2438.54 --> 2439.70] that vary depending on
[2439.70 --> 2440.46] who you're talking to
[2440.46 --> 2441.38] so in the US
[2441.38 --> 2442.58] in the constitution
[2442.58 --> 2444.00] it says that the
[2444.00 --> 2445.20] purpose of copyright
[2445.20 --> 2447.02] is to encourage authors
[2447.02 --> 2447.74] right
[2447.74 --> 2449.66] so it is a very utilitarian
[2449.66 --> 2450.24] like
[2450.24 --> 2451.74] we're going to give you this copyright
[2451.74 --> 2452.58] and as a result
[2452.58 --> 2453.16] you're going to like
[2453.16 --> 2454.08] create more stuff
[2454.08 --> 2454.52] and every
[2454.52 --> 2455.28] that's a bargain
[2455.28 --> 2455.96] that we're going to have
[2455.96 --> 2456.16] right
[2456.16 --> 2457.22] like we're going to give you
[2457.22 --> 2457.82] this monopoly
[2457.82 --> 2458.40] which otherwise
[2458.40 --> 2458.90] the founders
[2458.90 --> 2460.40] super against monopolies
[2460.40 --> 2461.38] but they created
[2461.38 --> 2462.76] the copyright monopoly
[2462.76 --> 2463.96] specifically in order