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[2099.10 --> 2101.10] and also we're like |
[2101.10 --> 2103.90] mandatorily turning on two-factor authentication for everybody |
[2103.90 --> 2106.60] and a couple maintainers for various reasons |
[2106.60 --> 2107.20] were just like |
[2107.20 --> 2108.48] that's too much work |
[2108.48 --> 2110.58] that's going to complicate my life |
[2110.58 --> 2111.94] it's going to break my build scripts |
[2111.94 --> 2113.04] and like |
[2113.04 --> 2114.88] we can go back and forth about like |
[2114.88 --> 2115.66] whether or not |
[2115.66 --> 2117.16] two-factor authentication |
[2117.16 --> 2119.30] in some of these cases is a good idea |
[2119.30 --> 2121.32] but I want to step out |
[2121.32 --> 2121.56] I mean |
[2121.56 --> 2124.42] I generally think two-factor authentication is a good idea |
[2124.42 --> 2125.08] don't get me wrong |
[2125.08 --> 2127.04] but like that's the easy case |
[2127.04 --> 2128.68] it just gets harder from there |
[2128.68 --> 2129.72] right like okay |
[2129.72 --> 2132.26] well what do we need to do to sign our binaries |
[2132.26 --> 2133.08] you know |
[2133.08 --> 2134.92] go I understand that's a mostly solved |
[2134.92 --> 2137.50] probably like signing modules is a mostly solved problem |
[2137.50 --> 2139.66] and a lot of other language ecosystems it is not |
[2139.66 --> 2141.36] so okay |
[2141.36 --> 2142.38] so there's extra work |
[2142.38 --> 2142.86] right |
[2142.86 --> 2144.40] and we've just created this extra work |
[2144.40 --> 2145.14] Chris as you say |
[2145.14 --> 2146.76] on some guy in Nebraska |
[2146.76 --> 2149.02] or actually a stack of 10,000 some guys |
[2149.02 --> 2151.10] and I apologize to listeners |
[2151.10 --> 2153.16] it's probably grating for me to hear |
[2153.16 --> 2154.76] for me to say |
[2154.76 --> 2155.82] 10,000 guys |
[2155.82 --> 2157.22] but I think it's worth |
[2157.22 --> 2159.56] both admitting that this is a problem |
[2159.56 --> 2160.66] and I think saying that this |
[2160.66 --> 2161.76] the part of the problem |
[2161.76 --> 2163.20] of the gendering of open source |
[2163.20 --> 2164.42] is very much |
[2164.42 --> 2165.96] that in a world |
[2165.96 --> 2167.58] where women are often called on |
[2167.58 --> 2170.36] to take on more than their share of household duties |
[2170.36 --> 2172.06] and home care |
[2172.06 --> 2172.68] child care |
[2172.68 --> 2173.34] elder care |
[2173.34 --> 2176.20] if we're not paying people to do open source |
[2176.20 --> 2176.84] well guess what |
[2176.84 --> 2178.66] that's part of how we get guys doing it |
[2178.66 --> 2180.82] because guys for various cultured reasons |
[2180.82 --> 2181.90] have more free time |
[2181.90 --> 2183.92] that's an important side note |
[2183.92 --> 2184.84] that I try to |
[2184.84 --> 2186.46] I think is important to say |
[2186.46 --> 2187.72] anyway |
[2187.72 --> 2189.62] we're putting all these new requirements |
[2189.62 --> 2190.36] on people Chris |
[2190.36 --> 2191.96] because of exactly this intuition |
[2191.96 --> 2192.94] you've had about like |
[2192.94 --> 2194.20] but we're doing nothing |
[2194.20 --> 2195.90] to make open source more fun |
[2195.90 --> 2196.68] easier |
[2196.68 --> 2199.26] like all we're doing is loading more work on top |
[2199.26 --> 2200.34] and I think at some point |
[2200.34 --> 2202.86] I think we're already starting to see it |
[2202.86 --> 2203.70] in some communities |
[2203.70 --> 2205.64] that people are going to snap |
[2205.64 --> 2206.50] people are going to walk away |
[2206.50 --> 2207.38] people are going to say |
[2207.38 --> 2208.52] so what do we do |
[2208.52 --> 2209.64] so what Tidelift does |
[2209.64 --> 2210.96] to help address this problem |
[2210.96 --> 2212.30] is we say |
[2212.30 --> 2212.62] hey |
[2212.62 --> 2214.26] we go to our customers |
[2214.26 --> 2214.74] and we say |
[2214.74 --> 2216.02] you're going to get more predictable |
[2216.02 --> 2217.52] more reliable open source |
[2217.52 --> 2219.42] if developers follow these standards |
[2219.42 --> 2221.14] they're not going to follow these standards |
[2221.14 --> 2221.66] on their own |
[2221.66 --> 2222.60] you should pay them |
[2222.60 --> 2223.72] so if you want |
[2223.72 --> 2225.20] the stuff you use |
[2225.20 --> 2226.80] to follow those standards |
[2226.80 --> 2227.78] write us a check |
[2227.78 --> 2228.70] we will go out |
[2228.70 --> 2230.32] find those developers for you |
[2230.32 --> 2232.12] hopefully we already have a contract with them |
[2232.12 --> 2232.86] from other customers |
[2232.86 --> 2234.06] but we'll go out |
[2234.06 --> 2234.80] find them |
[2234.80 --> 2235.82] and pay them |
[2235.82 --> 2238.62] and in order to get some of these |
[2238.62 --> 2239.72] this work done |
[2239.72 --> 2240.32] now |
[2240.32 --> 2243.26] there's a lot of challenges around this |
[2243.26 --> 2243.54] right |
[2243.54 --> 2244.00] in part |
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