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[2921.68 --> 2923.28] especially in the US
[2923.28 --> 2924.04] Natalie I think you're
[2924.04 --> 2924.84] correct to say that
[2924.84 --> 2925.54] this is less of a
[2925.54 --> 2926.54] problem in the EU
[2926.54 --> 2927.92] though definitely not
[2927.92 --> 2929.56] unknown as a problem
[2929.56 --> 2931.08] you get lawyers who end
[2931.08 --> 2931.92] up working more
[2931.92 --> 2932.94] defensively than they
[2932.94 --> 2933.64] might otherwise
[2933.64 --> 2934.82] because they're
[2934.82 --> 2935.74] thinking of the person
[2935.74 --> 2936.60] like you Chris
[2936.60 --> 2938.90] and so extra effort
[2938.90 --> 2939.66] gets put in
[2939.66 --> 2941.18] extra layers get put in
[2941.18 --> 2941.88] and that's not
[2941.88 --> 2942.72] necessarily a bad
[2942.72 --> 2943.74] thing but it does
[2943.74 --> 2945.60] mean there were
[2945.60 --> 2946.66] virtues to the days of
[2946.66 --> 2947.46] the handshake deal
[2947.46 --> 2949.16] right high trust
[2949.16 --> 2950.50] environments versus
[2950.50 --> 2951.72] low trust environments
[2951.72 --> 2953.26] is a real thing in
[2953.26 --> 2955.00] in law unfortunately
[2955.00 --> 2955.78] for better or for
[2955.78 --> 2957.12] worse and it's
[2957.12 --> 2958.72] absolutely there's all
[2958.72 --> 2959.72] kinds of class and
[2959.72 --> 2961.54] privilege issues around
[2961.54 --> 2963.20] that that again
[2963.20 --> 2964.08] another rant another
[2964.08 --> 2965.44] day and that seems
[2965.44 --> 2966.28] to be the case with
[2966.28 --> 2967.58] every episode we do
[2967.58 --> 2968.20] Natalie we're gonna
[2968.20 --> 2969.16] have to get you back
[2969.16 --> 2970.76] for a for a part two
[2970.76 --> 2972.20] to go deeper dive I
[2972.20 --> 2973.06] have one more question
[2973.06 --> 2973.80] that I want to dive
[2973.80 --> 2974.82] into before we go to
[2974.82 --> 2976.08] kind of the unpopular
[2976.08 --> 2977.32] opinion section which
[2977.32 --> 2978.20] is and you alluded to
[2978.20 --> 2979.62] this earlier are there
[2979.62 --> 2980.78] specific considerations
[2980.78 --> 2981.48] when we're talking
[2981.48 --> 2982.70] about go I know you
[2982.70 --> 2983.32] talked about kind of
[2983.32 --> 2984.90] package management but
[2984.90 --> 2985.82] what are the specific
[2985.82 --> 2987.66] I guess legal areas
[2987.66 --> 2988.50] when it comes to
[2988.50 --> 2989.78] ownership of code that
[2989.78 --> 2991.34] are brought in specific
[2991.34 --> 2992.36] to the go software
[2992.36 --> 2993.40] engineering language
[2993.40 --> 2994.88] you know I think
[2994.88 --> 2996.62] there's one I'm
[2996.62 --> 2997.40] getting a little over
[2997.40 --> 2998.42] my skis here but go
[2998.42 --> 3000.58] is very much a because
[3000.58 --> 3001.40] of the way that you
[3001.40 --> 3001.88] all have done
[3001.88 --> 3003.74] packaging it has some
[3003.74 --> 3005.04] real implications I
[3005.04 --> 3006.64] think for it breaks
[3006.64 --> 3007.56] the brain of a lot of
[3007.56 --> 3008.46] people who come out of
[3008.46 --> 3009.34] like other language
[3009.34 --> 3010.82] package managers right
[3010.82 --> 3012.54] and it has some stuff
[3012.54 --> 3013.50] that really made sense
[3013.50 --> 3014.46] internally to Google
[3014.46 --> 3015.72] there's this real
[3015.72 --> 3017.10] question Chris you were
[3017.10 --> 3017.98] alluding to it earlier
[3017.98 --> 3019.58] the guy in Nebraska
[3019.58 --> 3022.32] xkcd my impression of
[3022.32 --> 3023.14] it from an outside
[3023.14 --> 3024.56] perspective is that go
[3024.56 --> 3025.34] wants to make some of
[3025.34 --> 3026.86] that not a problem by
[3026.86 --> 3028.78] like oh we'll just grab
[3028.78 --> 3030.26] this specific revision
[3030.26 --> 3033.00] from this specific repo
[3033.00 --> 3035.84] and voila like we know
[3035.84 --> 3036.88] exactly what this code
[3036.88 --> 3038.52] is and that guy in
[3038.52 --> 3039.84] Nebraska can't hurt us
[3039.84 --> 3041.16] anymore right he can't
[3041.16 --> 3042.02] upgrade because we know
[3042.02 --> 3043.34] exactly what it is that
[3043.34 --> 3044.68] we've got here but of
[3044.68 --> 3046.10] course that's ends up
[3046.10 --> 3046.66] being a sort of