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[3191.14 --> 3192.18] software developers like
[3192.18 --> 3193.58] they know security matters
[3193.58 --> 3195.60] they know signatures help
[3195.60 --> 3196.88] but they also know they've
[3196.88 --> 3197.76] only got so much time in
[3197.76 --> 3198.52] the world and sometimes
[3198.52 --> 3199.38] they come home from work
[3199.38 --> 3200.04] and they really just want
[3200.04 --> 3201.22] to pitch their laptop into
[3201.22 --> 3202.94] the lake and that does
[3202.94 --> 3204.66] not help you close out
[3204.66 --> 3205.66] your issues if you've
[3205.66 --> 3206.60] pitched your laptop in
[3206.60 --> 3208.72] the lake right so we're
[3208.72 --> 3209.36] gonna have to figure that
[3209.36 --> 3210.54] out might involve buying
[3210.54 --> 3211.58] some people some laptops
[3211.58 --> 3213.00] or maybe writing them a
[3213.00 --> 3214.50] check or maybe it'll
[3214.50 --> 3215.34] involve helping them with
[3215.34 --> 3216.44] AI which we really didn't
[3216.44 --> 3217.54] get to at all but again
[3217.54 --> 3219.62] maybe next time so I
[3219.62 --> 3220.36] remember a conversation
[3220.36 --> 3221.84] that happened I think
[3221.84 --> 3223.02] among a smaller group of
[3223.02 --> 3223.54] people within the
[3223.54 --> 3224.14] community but when
[3224.14 --> 3225.80] modules were were being
[3225.80 --> 3226.64] designed and developed
[3226.64 --> 3227.64] one of the comments that
[3227.64 --> 3228.74] kept coming up was like
[3228.74 --> 3230.48] this is biasing toward the
[3230.48 --> 3232.12] consumer instead of the
[3232.12 --> 3232.90] you know the provider
[3232.90 --> 3234.96] their maintainer and is
[3234.96 --> 3235.80] that a thing we really
[3235.80 --> 3237.02] want to do in the go
[3237.02 --> 3238.28] community and what effect
[3238.28 --> 3239.20] is that going to have on
[3239.20 --> 3240.92] people's ability to
[3240.92 --> 3242.16] actually maintain and
[3242.16 --> 3243.32] build open source things
[3243.32 --> 3244.48] and I think I think we're
[3244.48 --> 3245.26] really starting to see
[3245.26 --> 3246.26] some of the outcomes of
[3246.26 --> 3247.08] that with like what Ben
[3247.08 --> 3248.00] Johnson's been doing where
[3248.00 --> 3249.28] he's just like I don't
[3249.28 --> 3250.30] want contributions I don't
[3250.30 --> 3251.84] want like I there's just I
[3251.84 --> 3252.56] don't have enough bandwidth
[3252.56 --> 3253.58] to kind of deal with some
[3253.58 --> 3254.74] of these things and I
[3254.74 --> 3255.42] think we're gonna see a lot
[3255.42 --> 3256.64] more people that just are
[3256.64 --> 3258.50] like well I can't like if
[3258.50 --> 3259.80] there is a bug and now I
[3259.80 --> 3261.12] have almost no recourse to
[3261.12 --> 3262.10] fix it or I can't get
[3262.10 --> 3263.26] people off old versions of
[3263.26 --> 3264.92] things or I can't that does
[3264.92 --> 3266.44] kind of erode the ability
[3266.44 --> 3268.40] of people to do open source
[3268.40 --> 3269.70] really which erodes our
[3269.70 --> 3271.08] ability to you know maintain
[3271.08 --> 3272.34] the modern world in a sense
[3272.34 --> 3274.20] yeah absolutely and you know
[3274.20 --> 3275.00] that's one thing I would
[3275.00 --> 3276.94] say to the go folks you're
[3276.94 --> 3278.26] not alone in that every
[3278.26 --> 3279.56] ecosystem is struggling with
[3279.56 --> 3280.50] that there are different
[3280.50 --> 3281.90] flavors caused by different
[3281.90 --> 3282.90] technical choices and
[3282.90 --> 3283.82] different cultural choices
[3283.82 --> 3285.58] along the way but the core
[3285.58 --> 3288.02] problem I can't wait we did
[3288.02 --> 3289.24] a tidalift conference right
[3289.24 --> 3290.92] before the pandemic I can't
[3290.92 --> 3291.90] wait to do our next one
[3291.90 --> 3293.20] because very much a theme is
[3293.20 --> 3294.58] going to be how can people
[3294.58 --> 3296.16] across many language
[3296.16 --> 3299.32] ecosystems share notes you
[3299.32 --> 3300.60] know figure out what this
[3300.60 --> 3301.92] looks like because it's very
[3301.92 --> 3304.16] much not if you feel alone
[3304.16 --> 3306.00] if you're having a bad day
[3306.00 --> 3307.62] and you want to chuck your
[3307.62 --> 3309.20] private keys away and never
[3309.20 --> 3310.58] log into github again like
[3310.58 --> 3311.46] you're not alone in that
[3311.46 --> 3313.08] that is a that is a common
[3313.08 --> 3314.94] thing right and github is
[3314.94 --> 3316.42] going to bust their butts I
[3316.42 --> 3317.56] will give them credit they're
[3317.56 --> 3319.30] trying to do a lot to make
[3319.30 --> 3320.06] some of this easier for
[3320.06 --> 3321.42] maintainers but ultimately