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[3046.66 --> 3047.92] adversarial relationship |
[3047.92 --> 3049.24] with that person right |
[3049.24 --> 3050.42] it means that when that |
[3050.42 --> 3051.54] person brings knowledge |
[3051.54 --> 3052.78] to the table brings new |
[3052.78 --> 3053.86] versions to the table |
[3053.86 --> 3055.34] there's this sort of |
[3055.34 --> 3057.24] assumption we never |
[3057.24 --> 3058.02] really got to it here |
[3058.02 --> 3058.80] Natalie but I think |
[3058.80 --> 3061.22] there's this penumbra of |
[3061.22 --> 3062.78] it's not ownership but |
[3062.78 --> 3063.88] it's sort of entitlement |
[3063.88 --> 3065.50] almost right and this is |
[3065.50 --> 3066.28] certainly not go |
[3066.28 --> 3068.40] specific but this sense |
[3068.40 --> 3069.38] of like well I'm using |
[3069.38 --> 3071.16] it and so I'm going to |
[3071.16 --> 3072.10] treat it a little bit |
[3072.10 --> 3073.14] like I have a support |
[3073.14 --> 3074.26] contract like traditional |
[3074.26 --> 3075.44] software and in fact |
[3075.44 --> 3076.28] open source has sort of |
[3076.28 --> 3077.06] encouraged this because |
[3077.06 --> 3078.78] people it started from |
[3078.78 --> 3079.94] this very collaborative |
[3079.94 --> 3081.26] community-based culture |
[3081.26 --> 3082.44] and so the norms are |
[3082.44 --> 3083.34] like hey I'm going to |
[3083.34 --> 3084.36] help everybody who shows |
[3084.36 --> 3085.42] up in my issue tracker |
[3085.42 --> 3086.58] and of course at some |
[3086.58 --> 3087.42] point you get too popular |
[3087.42 --> 3088.96] and that breaks but we |
[3088.96 --> 3089.48] haven't really |
[3089.48 --> 3091.54] acknowledged that that's |
[3091.54 --> 3093.80] I mean literally the |
[3093.80 --> 3094.98] word entitlement comes |
[3094.98 --> 3095.76] out of some of the same |
[3095.76 --> 3096.70] roots of like the same |
[3096.70 --> 3098.12] Latin legal roots as |
[3098.12 --> 3100.16] ownership when you own a |
[3100.16 --> 3101.58] thing you are entitled to |
[3101.58 --> 3103.84] do X and we end up with |
[3103.84 --> 3106.22] entitlements without the |
[3106.22 --> 3107.48] ownership part without the |
[3107.48 --> 3108.62] payments part without the |
[3108.62 --> 3110.36] labor part and that |
[3110.36 --> 3112.06] really is what sends a lot |
[3112.06 --> 3113.86] of things sideways I think |
[3113.86 --> 3114.68] in open source that's |
[3114.68 --> 3115.64] again that's where Tidelift |
[3115.64 --> 3118.58] comes in and I think |
[3118.58 --> 3121.06] also Go I think has |
[3121.06 --> 3122.44] tried to cabin some of |
[3122.44 --> 3123.48] that off with its module |
[3123.48 --> 3124.80] ownership but sometimes |
[3124.80 --> 3126.32] that where that makes |
[3126.32 --> 3127.52] technical sense it may not |
[3127.52 --> 3128.78] always make social sense |
[3128.78 --> 3131.24] and with more time some |
[3131.24 --> 3132.60] other time that would be a |
[3132.60 --> 3133.72] fun conversation to have |
[3133.72 --> 3135.02] in more depth with with |
[3135.02 --> 3135.88] some of the folks you know |
[3135.88 --> 3137.16] more on the packaging side |
[3137.16 --> 3138.26] than I do that's for sure |
[3138.26 --> 3140.26] so you know I guess the |
[3140.26 --> 3141.82] the unpopular part is not |
[3141.82 --> 3143.14] Go specific but that's |
[3143.14 --> 3145.60] definitely the responsibility |
[3145.60 --> 3147.28] lies with all of us |
[3147.28 --> 3148.08] because we specifically |
[3148.08 --> 3150.10] decided in open source |
[3150.10 --> 3151.18] that well I'm not owning |
[3151.18 --> 3152.22] this thing in like some |
[3152.22 --> 3153.84] sense but we very much |
[3153.84 --> 3155.20] decided in other senses |
[3155.20 --> 3156.90] that like one way of |
[3156.90 --> 3157.86] putting it is we decided |
[3157.86 --> 3160.22] that use of the code |
[3160.22 --> 3162.86] translates into ownership |
[3162.86 --> 3164.04] of somebody else's time |
[3164.04 --> 3166.56] and like that is not |
[3166.56 --> 3168.16] when open source runs |
[3168.16 --> 3169.32] the entire world which |
[3169.32 --> 3170.78] it really does at this |
[3170.78 --> 3172.76] point that doesn't scale |
[3172.76 --> 3173.98] and we don't know yet |
[3173.98 --> 3175.14] Chris to your earlier |
[3175.14 --> 3177.72] point of heresy we don't |
[3177.72 --> 3178.48] know how that's going to |
[3178.48 --> 3179.88] continue scaling we don't |
[3179.88 --> 3181.86] know what happens when we |
[3181.86 --> 3183.14] ask everybody to really |
[3183.14 --> 3184.92] complicated multi-factor |
[3184.92 --> 3186.88] signatures on everything |
[3186.88 --> 3188.60] like with very few |
[3188.60 --> 3189.50] exceptions people don't |
[3189.50 --> 3191.14] hate this stuff they're |
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