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[2999.12 --> 3000.14] So I don't know. |
[3000.14 --> 3008.74] So it's like, write three, two or three, like lines of the description or do not provide like test cases. |
[3009.16 --> 3013.68] So it's very complicated to figure out what do you really want. |
[3014.70 --> 3019.68] So one guy asks me, like, the docker doesn't work on my machine. |
[3020.34 --> 3021.36] Like, what? |
[3021.68 --> 3023.82] So I have to fix the docker on the machine. |
[3023.82 --> 3031.68] So, but you see, in CI, everything like brings from the scratch, like a docker installs from the scratch. |
[3031.80 --> 3033.56] So you see everything works inside the docker. |
[3033.96 --> 3035.46] It's something inside your machine. |
[3035.64 --> 3038.54] But the guy said, no, it's a problem in your code. |
[3038.82 --> 3040.22] So it's because I can't get around. |
[3040.38 --> 3047.78] So it was so long and so boring, like communications with a lot of people to prove that this is not a joke. |
[3048.20 --> 3050.66] It's a hard work, really hard work. |
[3050.94 --> 3051.14] Yeah. |
[3051.30 --> 3051.62] Yeah. |
[3051.62 --> 3054.88] So, and actually all the court to write is public. |
[3055.08 --> 3058.22] So like, because people are going to see it and going to blame you. |
[3058.32 --> 3061.60] I mean, they're going to blame you anyway, but now they're going to have a reason. |
[3062.22 --> 3062.60] Right. |
[3062.72 --> 3063.16] Exactly. |
[3063.58 --> 3063.90] Okay. |
[3064.02 --> 3069.94] You have a squirt, like N squirt algorithm or you can N factorial algorithm. |
[3070.22 --> 3073.92] So you shouldn't do it. |
[3074.96 --> 3075.44] Awesome. |
[3075.62 --> 3076.08] Awesome. |
[3076.08 --> 3089.04] Thank you guys so much for coming on the show and talking about really what piqued my curiosity when it showed up on my desk, my virtual desk, you know, PHP and go and how these two things sort of complement each other. |
[3089.18 --> 3090.50] It's been awesome having y'all. |
[3091.12 --> 3094.28] And I will now play our outro song. |
[3094.28 --> 3097.44] And we will try to wrap this up. |
[3097.60 --> 3098.58] Right on time too. |
[3106.10 --> 3107.64] That is our show for this week. |
[3108.04 --> 3110.92] Thanks again to Seb for requesting this episode. |
[3110.92 --> 3111.88] We hope you enjoyed it. |
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[3113.68 --> 3119.14] Head to gotime.fm slash request and let us know what you want to hear about on the pod. |
[3119.66 --> 3123.14] Special thanks again to Fastly for delivering our shows all around the world. |
[3123.40 --> 3127.22] To Breakmaster Cylinder for hooking us up with all the excellent beats you hear on the show. |
[3127.46 --> 3128.42] And to you for listening. |
[3128.88 --> 3130.46] We appreciate you spending time with us. |
[3130.92 --> 3135.06] If you have a couple more minutes, enjoy this clip from the changelog 486. |
[3135.06 --> 3140.12] We invited Frank Kruger on to discuss his practical guide to solving hard problems. |
[3140.38 --> 3141.96] And he shared so much wisdom with us. |
[3142.36 --> 3142.76] Listen in. |
[3143.14 --> 3147.64] And I was reading Wikipedia page after Wikipedia page, modern treatment after modern treatment. |
[3147.86 --> 3150.88] What I was trying to do was synthesize these V nodes. |
[3151.00 --> 3153.38] It's a complicated thing of data management. |
[3153.38 --> 3159.60] And I couldn't understand any of the algorithms until I opened the Dragon Book and saw in the 1970s, |
[3159.60 --> 3165.36] their pseudocode implementation of the algorithm, which threw away all the details, |
[3165.86 --> 3169.18] ignored all these modern advances that aren't actually advancements. |
[3169.24 --> 3170.28] You don't actually need them. |
[3170.74 --> 3175.36] And written out in this very clear style and all capital letters. |
[3175.52 --> 3178.36] I don't even know what language they were pretending to be in that book. |
[3178.56 --> 3183.40] But just finally getting it from this old, old resource and realizing, |
[3183.62 --> 3186.62] oh my God, in the 1970s, there's chapter five, section four, |
[3186.62 --> 3188.64] and they describe exactly the problem I'm having. |
[3188.88 --> 3191.58] And they, oh my God, even better, have a solution to it. |
[3191.82 --> 3191.92] Wow. |
[3192.00 --> 3195.76] And then you can transcribe that solution from their crazy, |
[3195.86 --> 3198.82] whatever language that was, into whatever you want to be using. |
[3199.22 --> 3201.30] And you learn a lot during that process. |
[3201.44 --> 3203.90] That felt so good to me when I finally found that. |
[3204.56 --> 3207.76] It's like coming across hidden treasure somewhere. |
[3207.96 --> 3209.38] You're like, look at this. |
[3209.52 --> 3210.12] Look what I found. |
[3210.40 --> 3211.38] I knew they were smart. |
[3211.46 --> 3211.88] That's crazy. |
[3212.54 --> 3214.34] You want to tell somebody at that moment, but nobody, |
[3214.34 --> 3216.14] not that they don't care, they just can't care. |
[3216.14 --> 3218.40] It's like, they just can't care. |
[3218.52 --> 3219.10] They can't care. |
[3219.20 --> 3220.88] It's like, I have no idea what you're talking about, Frank. |
[3220.98 --> 3221.34] Okay. |
[3221.60 --> 3223.12] But congratulations on something with the problem. |
[3223.56 --> 3225.24] Well, there's a little street cred too. |
[3225.48 --> 3230.32] Like just knowing about the book shows that you're semi-interested in compiler technology. |
[3230.56 --> 3232.06] Actually having a use for the book. |
[3232.22 --> 3234.24] I feel like I became a computer scientist that day. |
[3234.30 --> 3236.96] I actually applied something from the Dragon book. |
[3237.12 --> 3237.34] Yeah. |
[3237.42 --> 3239.90] It was a real high point in my career, to be thoroughly honest. |
[3239.94 --> 3242.74] And that's where you're standing on the shoulder of giants. |
[3243.18 --> 3245.08] It's like you graduated from Hogwarts that day. |
[3245.08 --> 3245.86] You became a wizard. |
[3246.14 --> 3247.00] You became a real wizard. |
[3247.08 --> 3248.28] By copying a wizard's spell. |
[3248.48 --> 3248.68] But yeah. |
[3249.44 --> 3251.80] But I realized the wizard's spell worked. |
[3252.06 --> 3252.20] Yeah. |
[3252.24 --> 3253.78] I was very Harry or Hermione there. |
[3256.02 --> 3262.14] Continue listening and subscribe to the changelog at changelog.fm slash 486. |
[3262.80 --> 3266.16] Hey, are you ready for our next installment in the maintenance series? |
[3266.66 --> 3272.22] Chris assembled an awesome panel to discuss what to do when Go projects get big and messy. |
[3272.22 --> 3277.54] Johnny joined him, as did Ian Lopshire and Sam Boyer for an excellent conversation. |
[3278.00 --> 3280.96] That's something to look forward to next time on Go Time. |
[3281.24 --> 3281.74] Go. |
[3281.74 --> 3282.86] Go Zen 3 fuckin 3 at 9! |
[3282.90 --> 3284.78] Stop talking here! |
[3285.22 --> 3287.20] Ciao! |
[3287.44 --> 3287.54] Bye! |
[3287.68 --> 3288.22] No! |
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