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[3293.70 --> 3295.82] Are those governance documents different per project? |
[3295.94 --> 3299.58] Or is it sort of VM or at large government documents or governance documents? |
[3299.78 --> 3300.54] That's how it works? |
[3301.14 --> 3301.54] No. |
[3301.74 --> 3304.08] They're, they're different depending on the, on the project. |
[3304.08 --> 3304.38] Okay. |
[3304.38 --> 3309.54] And I also work with a bunch of, so I spent a lot of time in the CNCF contributor strategy technical advisory group. |
[3309.54 --> 3312.84] And one of the things that we work on for CNCF projects is governance templates. |
[3313.28 --> 3317.32] So we have, we have three different governance templates that we use for, for CNCF projects. |
[3317.32 --> 3321.16] And we encourage them to use those, but they're individual projects. |
[3321.16 --> 3322.58] They can use whatever governance they want. |
[3322.66 --> 3323.84] Sometimes they'll pick something else. |
[3324.78 --> 3331.08] But, but yeah, it varies, it varies widely across, across projects, even within the same company or within the same foundation. |
[3331.08 --> 3334.30] If someone's out there saying, wow, chaos sounds awesome. |
[3334.96 --> 3337.08] I run an OSPO and I've never heard of it. |
[3337.14 --> 3337.66] What should they do? |
[3337.94 --> 3341.44] They should go to chaos with two S's dot community, which is our website. |
[3342.04 --> 3345.18] And we have, we have loads of regular project meetings. |
[3345.18 --> 3348.28] We have working groups you can get involved in. |
[3348.54 --> 3352.52] And so I would say poke around there and there's information on how to participate. |
[3352.80 --> 3355.84] And we're very welcoming to new community members. |
[3356.16 --> 3358.16] What's your time to pull request closure ratio? |
[3358.28 --> 3358.68] What's that? |
[3359.00 --> 3359.70] Yeah, that's a good question. |
[3359.76 --> 3360.40] I have no idea. |
[3360.40 --> 3361.68] No idea. |
[3362.28 --> 3363.66] Well, thanks for joining us today. |
[3363.76 --> 3364.18] This is cool. |
[3364.48 --> 3364.82] Thank you, Don. |
[3364.84 --> 3365.46] Yeah, thanks for having me. |
[3379.28 --> 3387.32] Hey friends, I'm here with one of our partners and sponsors, Jason Bosco, co-founder and CEO of TypeSense. |
[3387.32 --> 3391.94] You may remember Jason from episode 505 of the change law. |
[3392.00 --> 3395.42] We talked about TypeSense being truly open source search. |
[3395.82 --> 3400.86] And that's kind of where we got interested in TypeSense because we've been hitting bottlenecks and issues with Algolia. |
[3400.86 --> 3404.62] And so I reached out to Jason and said, hey, Jason, we'd love to work with you and partner with you. |
[3404.62 --> 3409.32] But Jason, tell the listeners here why you all build TypeSense. |
[3409.40 --> 3409.96] What do you believe? |
[3409.96 --> 3419.92] So we believe that fast search as you type experiences need to be widely available and adopted by as many sites and apps as possible. |
[3420.02 --> 3427.98] And what I mean by search as you type is you type in a letter and it returns results right away in, say, less than 50 milliseconds or 100 milliseconds. |
[3427.98 --> 3433.34] And we've tried building experiences like this in the past with other products. |
[3433.82 --> 3436.78] You know, there's solar, there's Elasticsearch, there's Algolia. |
[3437.14 --> 3449.08] And all of them are good in different respects, but they either are very complex to deploy or they're hard to scale or they're very expensive to use even for moderate scale. |
[3449.08 --> 3451.54] So that's why we built TypeSense. |
[3451.86 --> 3452.98] We open sourced it. |
[3453.24 --> 3459.50] We made sure that you can run TypeSense locally or if you don't want to worry about infrastructure, we also have TypeSense Cloud. |
[3460.00 --> 3468.36] So you have cloud and you have open source and you ship binaries in your open source that you actually use in your cloud with extra features, of course. |
[3468.52 --> 3472.00] But what was making you think that you should build cloud in the first place? |
[3472.24 --> 3477.36] Based on what users have told us over the last several years, many folks wanted us to host the search service. |
[3477.36 --> 3478.78] So we started building TypeSense Cloud. |
[3479.16 --> 3486.14] So whether you're self-hosted or use TypeSense Cloud, it is the same binary that we run in TypeSense Cloud that we also publish open source. |
[3486.28 --> 3488.18] So the feature set is identical. |
[3488.58 --> 3491.24] But in TypeSense Cloud, of course, we manage the service for you. |
[3491.30 --> 3492.50] So you don't have to worry about infrastructure. |
[3493.06 --> 3495.30] And then we give you a nice UI to manage your data. |
[3495.48 --> 3499.90] And then we give you tool-based access control, the single sign-on, more collaboration aspects. |
[3500.36 --> 3506.86] But regardless of whether you self-hosted or use TypeSense Cloud, we want to bring this technology to as broad an audience as possible. |
[3506.86 --> 3509.16] Without having to worry about cost. |
[3509.44 --> 3514.60] And that's one of the reasons we decided to partner with you, Adam, and talk about TypeSense here. |
[3514.72 --> 3519.36] Yeah, I love the idea of getting this into as many developers' hands as possible. |
[3519.70 --> 3523.88] The fact that you have blazing fast in-memory search like you do that's open source, |
[3523.98 --> 3529.46] that competes with the likes of Elasticsearch or Algolia, that you can just host yourself if you want to. |
[3529.52 --> 3530.24] That's so awesome. |
[3530.60 --> 3532.22] Of course, we're excited to partner with you. |
[3532.22 --> 3538.94] We're using TypeSense Cloud, which is awesome and very fortunate to have a chance to work with you on this project. |
[3539.08 --> 3543.54] Obviously, we have so much more in store for our search feature, so we're barely scratching the surface. |
[3543.96 --> 3549.36] But hey, listeners, check out TypeSense at typesense.org or at cloud.typesense.org. |
[3549.70 --> 3552.18] I think Jason's awesome and he has an awesome team. |
[3552.58 --> 3555.60] And of course, we're using TypeSense, so we think you should check it out too. |
[3555.60 --> 3560.18] Again, typesense.org or cloud.typesense.org. |
[3585.60 --> 3587.78] Drupal is still a big deal, right? |
[3588.42 --> 3589.34] Is Drupal still a big deal? |
[3589.42 --> 3589.94] I would think so. |
[3590.10 --> 3591.72] I would say Drupal is still a big deal, yeah. |
[3592.12 --> 3593.98] So I know somebody who is big into Drupal. |
[3594.68 --> 3596.42] Well, I don't know him, know him, but I know him. |
[3597.02 --> 3597.92] His name is Jeff Geerling. |
[3598.14 --> 3598.70] You know Jeff Geerling? |
[3598.92 --> 3599.08] Yeah. |
[3599.32 --> 3601.88] He's a big Drupal guy and he's moving his stuff off of Drupal. |
[3601.90 --> 3602.14] You're Drupal, right? |
[3602.82 --> 3604.90] On to, I believe, WordPress, if I last look. |
[3605.06 --> 3605.92] Oh, he's moving off Drupal? |
[3606.24 --> 3608.32] Yeah, like he would self-host and do a bunch of stuff. |
[3608.32 --> 3610.24] So I think he was a big Drupal person. |
[3610.32 --> 3612.96] But I just wonder, like, is the tide shifting away from Drupal? |
[3613.04 --> 3613.84] Is it still a big deal? |
[3613.84 --> 3614.90] Do you know? |
[3615.18 --> 3620.30] I think what I would say about that is Drupal has kind of shifted where, you know, what |
[3620.30 --> 3623.70] it's really targeting at this point is, like, ambitious digital experience is sort of what |
[3623.70 --> 3624.04] we say. |
[3624.10 --> 3626.76] It's an open source data platform for all that kind of stuff. |
[3627.18 --> 3631.60] And what that means is if what you're doing is running a personal blog, Drupal is probably |
[3631.60 --> 3634.18] going to be a really frustrating platform to run that on, to be honest. |
[3634.18 --> 3638.46] But if you're building, for example, a university website where all of the different departments |
[3638.46 --> 3641.38] need to have the same functionality but look different from each other and have different |
[3641.38 --> 3643.58] access control, it's really great for stuff like that. |
[3643.84 --> 3643.98] Right. |
[3644.26 --> 3644.44] Yeah. |
[3644.88 --> 3645.56] Access control. |
[3645.68 --> 3647.98] So do you plug into, like, SSOs and stuff like that now? |
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