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• Implementing Scorecards can motivate developers to improve security, even if it's not mandatory.
• The tool can be run against any repository, providing insight into the security of open source projects.
• It uses the GitHub API for read-only access to configuration and other settings.
• The origin of Scorecard is attributed to Google, but it has since spread widely and has been adopted by Intel.
• Large organizations like Intel are implementing Scorecard in thousands of open source repositories.
• Scorecards are not versioned in the sense that past scores may change over time due to updates to measured practices.
• The scorecard metric measures a project's adherence to security best practices, with 10 being the highest score.
• A common criticism of Scorecard is its binary nature, where projects either pass or fail certain checks, but others are more nuanced.
• Gaming the system by selectively applying certain best practices to achieve a higher score is seen as an issue.
• The adoption of Scorecard aims to standardize and improve security posture across open source projects.
• Using Markdown linters as CI checks to improve documentation consistency
• Encouraging contributions to open source through low-hanging tasks like doc fixes and typo corrections
• Importance of good documentation in making software easier to use
• Balancing context for new users vs. assuming prior knowledge
• Scorecards as a starting point for learning cybersecurity and contributing to open source, especially from non-traditional backgrounds
• Creating opportunities for small wins and confidence-building experiences in tech
• Securely tracking code origins through hashes
• Relationship between scorecard and software supply chain management (SSCM)
• Dependency pinning as a challenge due to rapidly changing dependencies
• Importance of artifact signing for verification and trust
• Government regulations (e.g. executive order) driving adoption of SSCM practices
• Balancing security measures with development efficiency and tooling maturity
• The importance of exposing oneself to how others use software outside of their usual realm
• Archiving old projects and setting boundaries on maintenance efforts
• The concept of "attention" as a finite resource for maintainers and creators, particularly in open-source software
• Work-life balance challenges faced by developers who build projects on the weekends
• Comparing open-source development to decorating one's house, where changes are not always welcomed
• OpenSSF Scorecards project discussed, including its benefits and how to get involved
• Ways to contribute to OpenSSF, including becoming a member or contributing via GitHub repos
• Use cases for Scorecards in teaching developers about securing their GitHub repos
• Importance of having good security practices and repeating them across multiple projects
• Long-term vision for Scorecards and other tools to automate best practices and default to safe configurations
• Origins of technology names (Linux, Git, Kubernetes)
• Venn diagram origins
• Origins of specific software names (MySQL, Trojan horse)
• Explanation of the meaning behind other technology names (Neon, Algorithms)
• Origins of the name "Debian" and its release naming convention
• Discussion of the character Sid from Toy Story and its association with the Debian unstable release
• Shared experiences and reactions to childhood media, including Nightmare Before Christmas and Toy Story
• Request for listener suggestions and personal anecdotes about unusual names or topics
• Interest in interviewing space-related experts and discussing infrastructure and industrial systems
• Enthusiasm for embedded systems, robotics, and the intersection of software and hardware
• Discussion of a potential "space camp" for adults and brainstorming ideas for such an event
• Plans to record interviews
• Discussion of the Nerd Olympics, including potential physical requirements
• Mention of specific events, such as paper airplane contest and Lego model rebuilding
• Promotion of the Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE)
• Autumn Nash's enthusiasm for meeting Justin Garrison in person
• Announcement of upcoming talks and presentations at a conference
**Justin Garrison:** Hello and welcome back to another episode of Ship It. I am your host, Justin Garrison, and with me as always is Autumn Nash. How's it going, Autumn?
**Autumn Nash:** Hi. I'm good. How are you?
**Justin Garrison:** I'm doing fine. And even if you're teasing me for it being cold in Southern California, being 62 degrees... \[laughs\]
**Autumn Nash:** It was 35 degrees, and my car was iced over, and you're over here turning the heater up, Justin...
**Justin Garrison:** I did run my heater, because if I don't have to wear a hoodie, I'm not going to. But actually, it was --
**Autumn Nash:** You work in tech. What do you have against hoodies?
**Justin Garrison:** They're fine, but if I can just be in a comfortable room...
**Autumn Nash:** This is how we know you're spoiled in California, because you're Oh, God forbid I put on a hoodie." We live in hoodies in Seattle. It is practically the state clothing item. if there was one, that's it.
**Justin Garrison:** I will say, I remember when I had an interview in Seattle... I was looking at weather, and it snowed. This was years ago, and I was "It's gonna snow." And literally, the warmest thing I have is a hoodie. So I went to Target that night, the night before I was flying up to this in-person interview fi...
**Autumn Nash:** You actually dressed up for snow? You didn't just put on a hoodie and just run as fast as possible? Because that's the other funny thing... I feel like people -- somebody's always wearing shorts, and a hoodie, and you look weather-confused, because it's cold outside, but whatever... Especially guys, I ...
**Justin Garrison:** I am from Southern California, and I will freeze to death in the snow, so...
**Autumn Nash:** I love that you really got \[unintelligible 00:02:13.02\]
**Justin Garrison:** I did! I have worn them like three times now. I was just in Japan two weeks ago, and it snowed there too, and so I had to bring them, and I wore them.
**Autumn Nash:** I love your weather dramatics. It's so very California-ish.
**Justin Garrison:** If it's under 40 Fahrenheit, I'm probably going to be bundling up \[unintelligible 00:02:31.17\]
**Autumn Nash:** Justin, I was born in LA, and I'm from Hawaii.
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah, whatever.
**Autumn Nash:** You're like "Whatever, don't judge me."
**Justin Garrison:** You have moved to colder weather; you have migrated, and I stayed here.
**Autumn Nash:** Send tacos.
**Justin Garrison:** Send tacos, yes. \[unintelligible 00:02:46.24\] On today's show we have Chris Swan from -- he's gonna be talking about OpenSSF Scorecards, and we're gonna get into the whole interview on what that is, and what that means, and I'm really excited for everyone to hear about it, because I learned quite...
**Autumn Nash:** It was really interesting, and not just that, but Chris is the sweetest, and he has the cutest dogs ever.
**Justin Garrison:** We did get to see his dogs, \[unintelligible 00:03:14.28\]
**Autumn Nash:** Shout-out to Chris's dogs, because they're adorable.
**Justin Garrison:** To start off the show, as always, we're going to talk about a couple of links that we've found recently, or in the last week, that we thought you all might find interesting. And I'll go ahead and start with something that recently just happened for all of us. The leap year. Leap year happened, it's...
The other one that was funny or interesting was in France... The lights turned off at midnight, because -- there's just infrastructure that just disappeared, because it's like "This day doesn't exist, so we're not on schedule. I don't know what to do."