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**Justin Garrison:** Yeah. So congrats on the new job, and Merry Christmas.
**Autumn Nash:** I can't wait to -- where am I going to put the picture of Bill Gates? Like...
**Justin Garrison:** On your desk. He has to look at you.
**Autumn Nash:** Every time you send something and it's from you, my children assume that you're in a box...
**Justin Garrison:** It's me in there?
**Autumn Nash:** Yeah. And I'm just like "Um, Mr. Justin is not in the box."
**Justin Garrison:** Well, this gave them some playing cards to play with. They can play war, or something. I don't know.
**Autumn Nash:** I'm putting that stuff up where nobody can touch it. It's a classic \[unintelligible 00:52:04.19\]
**Justin Garrison:** I don't know if the cards are opened. I don't remember. I don't think I ever did the puzzle.
**Autumn Nash:** It's a classic, Justin.
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah, so there you go. You can \[unintelligible 00:52:10.02\]
**Autumn Nash:** Also, we need to figure out what ridiculous shirts we're getting our kids for Scale.
**Justin Garrison:** Oh, yeah, they should have some -- well, we need to have some Fork Around and Find Out shirts.
**Autumn Nash:** Just to have them run around in little Fork shirts... It'll be great.
**Justin Garrison:** It will be good. So yeah. So thank you, everyone, for listening to the show. Thank you for listening to us this past year. If you have not subscribed to Fork Around and Find Out, then please do. We'd love to hear from you. We're trying to get that just going, because it's fun to start it from scrat...
**Autumn Nash:** Yeah, we invested a bunch of money into this new venture, because we can't stop doing nerd talk with our friends. But also, starting your own business is so scary.
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah, it's a lot of work, and we appreciate everyone that is here just listening, and who has given us feedback over the years... We've taken a lot of that, hopefully going forward.
**Autumn Nash:** Oh, my God. We love y'all's emails and comments and Blue Skies... It makes my day.
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah. It has been a great learning experience, and we just love everyone that has given back to the show, because it's made it better. So thank you, everyone. Have a good holiday, happy new year, and hopefully, we will talk to you again soon.
**Autumn Nash:** Can't wait!
• The hosts discuss their favorite episode so far and introduce the topic of infrastructure and code running in space
• A blog post is shared about SST moving away from AWS CDK and towards Pulumi, citing reasons for the change such as the CDK being a "hack" on top of CloudFormation and having limitations
• Autumn Nash shares an article about a deep fake scam that resulted in $25 million being stolen from a bank in Hong Kong using AI-generated video and audio
• The hosts discuss the potential risks and consequences of deep fakes, including their use in elections and financial transactions
• Discussion of AI and its potential for misuse in warfare or scams
• Concerns about the ease with which false information can be spread using AI-generated content
• Debate about the benefits and risks of using AI in education and other fields
• Personal anecdotes about experiencing chatbots being used for harassment on social media
• Introduction to a guest, Andrew Guenther, who works at Orbital Sidekick, a company that operates satellites in space
• Discussion of Orbital Sidekick's technology and how it uses hyperspectral imaging to monitor things like pipeline leaks and plant health
• Explanation of the software development process involved in operating the satellites and processing the imagery they collect
• Hardware design and development process for satellites
• Long-term support and maintenance of software in space
• Managing dependencies and libraries on limited resources
• Balancing security concerns with patching vulnerabilities in space
• The challenges of developing software for a rapidly changing landscape
• Space Force's real existence sparks excitement
• Importance of balancing speed with reliability in software development for space applications
• Decision-making tenets and trade-offs between developing quickly vs. maintaining long-term stability
• Challenges of image processing and analysis on board a satellite, including dependencies and complexity
• Prioritization and filtering of data through machine learning to expedite decision-making and customer delivery
• Debugging and testing processes for software in space, including SSH connections and latency limitations
• The speed at which companies can move to launch satellites has increased significantly
• Traditional aerospace culture is slow-moving, but startups are pushing for faster development and launch times
• Launch costs have decreased, making it more accessible for companies to launch payloads into space
• The FCC governs the industry, issuing licenses for transmission and space launches
• Regulatory frameworks are still developing, with the first fine for space junk issued recently
• Companies are dealing with issues of satellite lifespan and orbit decay, which can result in satellites burning up after a certain number of years
• Space industry is rapidly changing, allowing companies to add value quickly and cheaply to various industries such as oil and gas
• Mission lifespan of satellites is estimated at 5 years from onboard component perspective, but orbital decay may occur within 10-15 years
• Emotional attachment to satellites and rovers, with speakers sharing personal anecdotes about their fondness for these technologies
• Satellites have human-like nicknames (e.g. Goose) and are treated as if they were pets
• Discussion of the cost-benefit analysis of launching satellites, with a price tag of $5 million per satellite
• The challenges of managing satellite networks, including inter-satellite communication and collision avoidance
• Tensions between satellite vendors and regulators in the industry
• The Vatican has a space program and launched a satellite that mistakenly claimed one of Andrew Guenther's satellites as their own.
• NORAD had to be notified and corrected, resolving the issue.
• Andrew Guenther shares humorous anecdotes about his beef with the Vatican and how his kid thinks it's cool that he works in space.
• The conversation shifts to discussing pinkeye and other childhood illnesses that come from having kids.
• Andrew Guenther describes a challenging technical problem they encountered with one of their satellites, involving flow control and packet loss over slow connections.
• The speakers discuss the challenges they faced when trying to assemble satellite imagery from TCP dumps
• They describe the bespoke process they used to rebuild the first imagery and the stress it caused
• The importance of high-resolution images in space exploration is highlighted
• Corrupted packets and deduplication were issues that had to be addressed when rebuilding the imagery
• Andrew Guenther, a guest on the show, shares his experience working with vendor partners in Sunnyvale
• He mentions Baja Blast, a Mountain Dew flavor, as a memorable moment in their work
• The speakers discuss their social media presence and encourage listeners to reach out to them for more information
• They reflect on the complexity of software development in space and the need for security measures
• Excitement about Rust and rewrites of old tools in the language
• Potential benefits of open-source projects, including increased contributions and maintenance
• Java as a tool for teaching programming to younger audiences, particularly with projects like NASA's astrodynamics toolkit
• Using real-world applications and space-themed projects to engage kids in coding
• Promotion of the podcast and encouragement for listeners to submit topics or guests
**Justin Garrison:** Hello, and welcome to another episode of Ship It. I am your host, Justin Garrison, and as always, Autumn Nash is joining me. How's it going, Autumn
**Autumn Nash:** Hi. How are you?
**Justin Garrison:** I'm doing great, and I am so excited for this episode. I want people to hear it, like right now. And they are. That's the cool part.
**Autumn Nash:** I think this is my favorite episode so far.