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• Scale is described as a community-driven conference with a variety of topics and a focus on open source and DevOps |
• Autumn and Justin recommend Scale as a great first-conference experience for beginners |
• Pete Naylor joins the conversation as a guest, and Autumn introduces him as one of her favorite people in the industry due to his kindness and expertise |
• Pete's adventurous personality is discussed, including his love of outdoor activities like wildlife rescue and firefighting |
• He mentions hang gliding as something he hasn't done but wants to try |
• Pete shares his background in tech, starting with his early interest in computing while studying mechanical engineering and Japanese language in Australia |
• He describes the early days of the internet, using platforms like Usenet News, IRC, and FTP, and learning about Unix operating systems |
• Pete recounts how he met his partner online and moved to the US, where he started a business providing dial-up internet service and eventually worked for Northwest Net |
• The conversation also touches on the spread of the internet globally and its early development in universities |
• Pete Naylor discusses his travels across the US and how he prefers variety in his experiences |
• He describes how firefighting and rescue work became an interest of his after being introduced by a neighbor who was a diver |
• Pete shares his background in IT and technology, including working at companies like Amazon and TARS |
• He mentions his involvement with Dynamo and NoSQL databases and his role as a technical account manager at AWS |
• The conversation also touches on Pete's personal life, including losing a sister when he was young and how it influenced his desire to fit in meaningful experiences |
• The challenges of supporting Amazon's internal teams with AWS services, particularly DynamoDB |
• Amazon's transition from on-premises infrastructure to cloud-based services, including migrating off Oracle |
• The role of TAMs (Technical Account Managers) in supporting large customers like Amazon |
• The process of implementing and scaling DynamoDB for Amazon's critical systems |
• The impact of the transition on Amazon's teams, including reduced time spent on planning and scaling for events like Prime Day |
• Pete Naylor's personal experience working with AWS services, including his involvement in the migration off Oracle and his role as a DynamoDB specialist |
• The importance of understanding relational databases vs NoSQL |
• Pete Naylor's transition from Sales to Product Management at Amazon |
• The scale and complexity of Amazon's DynamoDB service |
• The value of teamwork and working with good people in tech careers |
• How Pete's non-tech experiences, such as firefighting and EMT work, influence his approach to tech |
• Examples of Pete's kindness and empathy towards others, particularly in helping Autumn Nash through a difficult time |
• Military Spouses program involvement |
• Career transition from Amazon to small startup and then to Postgres company |
• Importance of flexibility in database deployment options (on-prem vs cloud) |
• Critique of the pendulum swing between general-purpose databases and purpose-built ones |
• Discussion of technology hype cycles and the need for flexibility |
• Criticism of NoSQL concept and terminology |
• Difficulty in explaining NoSQL variations |
• Discussion on database compatibility and API compatibility issues |
• Stored procedures: their benefits and limitations |
• Reevaluation of purpose-built databases and categorization |
• MongoDB's approach to simplicity has contributed to its success |
• Documenting and making products user-friendly is an underrated sales strategy for companies |
• Distributed databases can scale well for simple queries but not complex ones across many shards |
• The database and storage layer has remained proprietary while compute infrastructure has become more open-source |
• Networking and databases are often seen as critical components that require specialized knowledge and are not commoditized like compute |
• Companies may prefer to pay for proprietary solutions over managing their own databases and networks |
• Data centers and hardware |
• Water cooling in compute and hardware |
• Underwater data centers and power generation |
• Environmental concerns and impact of large-scale technology projects |
• AI hype and potential for waste and inefficiency |
• Database and storage options and their complexities |
• Industry trends and future outlook |
• Vector databases explained by Pete Naylor |
• Justin Garrison asks about vector databases as part of Changelog Plus Plus content |
• Difficulty in understanding the concept of vector databases |
• Pete offers his personal interpretation of vector databases despite not being 100% confident |
• Transition to future discussion on vector databases for Plus Plus subscribers |
**Justin Garrison:** Hello and welcome to Ship It, the podcast all about what happens after you git push. I'm your host, Justin Garrison. And with me as always is Autumn Nash. How's it going, Autumn? |
**Autumn Nash:** Hey, everyone. |
**Justin Garrison:** I feel like we haven't recorded for a couple of weeks, even though the show has been regular; we got ahead a little bit, and now we have a couple episodes that we're catching up on... But it's great, because we haven't actually -- you and I haven't talked on video for a couple of weeks. |
**Autumn Nash:** I got puked on, and then I had to give a Grace Hopper talk. |
**Justin Garrison:** That happens. And that actually brings up a great point... So this episode is going out the week of October 21st. If you're listening to this while it goes out - I think it goes out on the 25th - Autumn, you're going to be at GitHub Universe... |
**Autumn Nash:** I'll be at GitHub Universe the next -- |
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah, the following week. |
**Autumn Nash:** Yeah. |
**Justin Garrison:** You're giving a talk over there. What's your talk on? |
**Autumn Nash:** "Women and data are important to the future of AI." Well, I'm writing talks for Scale, while doing this talk... And then I just did one at Grace Hopper, and they're all like married in my brain right now. |
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah. And you totally \[unintelligible 00:04:41.26\] So I'm going to be at All Things Open that same week. I'm giving a talk there about why I was wrong about the cloud, and I have a lot of opinions that I've learned over the years... |
**Autumn Nash:** The fact that they haven't tried to take you out yet... |
**Justin Garrison:** I might be doing my talk behind some shields, or something. |
**Autumn Nash:** I'm going to get you one of those vests, just to keep you safe... |
**Justin Garrison:** But you also mentioned Scale, which - the CFP for scale closes on November 1st. So anyone that is looking to give a talk at a conference, please submit one to the Southern California Linux Expo. I've given, I think, four talks over 15 years going there. |
**Autumn Nash:** You gave like two at once half the time. |
**Justin Garrison:** It is the best first beginner conference, because the vibe is just so community-driven, and there's such a variety of topics... If you want to come to Pasadena in March - great weather. Autumn will show you where to get some tacos. |
**Autumn Nash:** Honestly though, if you have to pick one conference next year, Scale is like a nerd summer camp, or like spring break camp, for like the coolest people in open source and DevOps and Kubernetes. I'm still never going to run anything in Kubernetes after the way that y'all made talks last year. Like, you ... |
**Justin Garrison:** And it's family-friendly. I'll probably bring my son, at least one of the days. Autumn, you will probably bring some of your kids. |
**Autumn Nash:** I'm bringing all of them. They want to give talks, and everything. But then I'm dropping them off at their dad's, so we can do hoodrat stuff together... |
**Justin Garrison:** And the whole conference is pretty cheap. It's community-driven, so it's not like big budget, thousand-dollar tickets. I think the tickets last year were like one hundred and twenty bucks. If you have student discounts... I went as a student when I worked at university, and so they were 50 percent ... |
If you're interested in submitting a CFP, I'm actually doing a livestream with them, because I help organize it... So November 1st, if you're listening to this ahead of time, go look at the Scale of YouTube. We have a live stream on just like feedback for CFPs. Because we want to get new speakers. We love getting peopl... |
**Autumn Nash:** There's a kids track too, and it's one of the most -- it's also one of the most diverse speaking... Like, there's so many women, there's so many people from all over different companies, big companies, small companies... And the amount that you learn about what big companies and different people contri... |
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