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**Cliff Biffle:** We might merge those. Or we might not. There's advantages to having a \[unintelligible 00:16:14.11\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Are you alluding to making chips in the future? |
**Cliff Biffle:** I mean, we'll probably have to. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. Would it be a collab with like AMD, or an existing... |
**Cliff Biffle:** AMD returns our phone calls now. It's very exciting. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Nice. |
**Jerod Santo:** Is that new? |
**Cliff Biffle:** Yeah, it's pretty new. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Like, "Hey, Oxide, we'll take that phone call." That's cool. |
**Cliff Biffle:** Yeah, it's nice. Probably not. So we have some FPGAs on the newest generation server board, which are basically... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** What's FPGA mean? |
**Cliff Biffle:** Yeah, so Field Programmable Gate Array is the full nerd expansion. But the purpose of the chip is it's basically a bunch of... It's a Lego set for integrated circuits. You've got a bunch of generic logic circuits that you can then program to act like another chip... And it's slower and more expensive ... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** And Hubris is open source... |
**Cliff Biffle:** Yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Does anybody else use Hubris? |
**Cliff Biffle:** I've heard from about five other companies that are using it in production. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Really? |
**Cliff Biffle:** Yup. And I can't remember which one of them lets me say that publicly. Also, I can't remember them anyway right now... But I could check my notes. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Sure. |
**Cliff Biffle:** Volvo is really interested, but we don't have the certifications that they would need as a car company... But I've been talking to somebody about what that would take. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** They can contribute though, right? It's open source. |
**Cliff Biffle:** They could. The thing they would need to contribute, unfortunately, is a bunch of money for consultants to go through the certification process... Which they're not excited about. So that's fine. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, they probably have -- maybe they have more money than you all now? \[unintelligible 00:17:56.03\] |
**Cliff Biffle:** I hope Volvo has more money than we do. I hope so. |
**Jerod Santo:** I bet they do. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I have no idea. |
**Cliff Biffle:** It's Volvo. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah, but car companies - they burn money. Don't they burn money? |
**Cliff Biffle:** Yeah... There's like three other startups I've heard from that are using it in products. So that's pretty cool. I'd like to get more people using it, but there's some work we need to do to make it more friendly to people that aren't Oxide. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right. |
**Cliff Biffle:** Because right now, if there's a trade-off we have to make, and one thing would make us ship faster, and the other thing would make it more general for other customers, we almost always have to pick the "We ship faster" option. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Right. |
**Jerod Santo:** One of the fun things about being here in the building with everybody is every once in a while a fan just goes crazy. This is not a person who enjoys -- like, a literal fan just starts... Like, what's going on when that happens? |
**Cliff Biffle:** That's a great question. So one of two things is going on. |
**Jerod Santo:** Okay. |
**Cliff Biffle:** The good thing is somebody just ran something on that machine that's boosted all the CPUs. It's like when your laptop starts trying to take off. |
**Jerod Santo:** Sure. |
**Cliff Biffle:** So something made the CPUs go really fast, everything ramped up, the machine got hot, fan turns on, cools the machine back down. That's sort of the working as intended. What's probably happening here is that something's crashing. |
**Jerod Santo:** Something's going wrong. |
**Cliff Biffle:** We have a chip on the board that's a hardware watchdog that if it doesn't receive regular instructions on what to do with the fans, it assumes the worst, and it ramps the fans up to make sure we don't overheat. |
**Jerod Santo:** To avoid... Okay. |
**Cliff Biffle:** This means that if you're doing a firmware update on the service processor, the Hubris-based service processor that's responsible for sending those messages, and it's gone for more than watchdog, however the setting is seconds, then the chip kicks up, ramps the fans up, and then it wakes up and finish... |
**Jerod Santo:** You're like the watchdog for the watchdog -- |
**Cliff Biffle:** I get yelled at in chat, but one of the computers is crashing -- |
**Jerod Santo:** Because you're one of the people that works out of the office generally... |
**Cliff Biffle:** Yeah. And I might have wrote the code that's messing up, so... |
**Jerod Santo:** So you'd better get out of your seat and go do something? |
**Cliff Biffle:** So frequently I'm like "It's not me. It's not me. This one's not me." |
**Jerod Santo:** So as being somebody who's regularly in the office, but most folks aren't, what does OxCon do for you in terms of your camaraderie with your colleagues, or the excitement level? How do you feel about it? |
**Cliff Biffle:** I get to find out how tall everybody is. |
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