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• Social relationships and isolation during pandemic |
• Importance of human connection in times of physical distancing |
• Threats to financial stability as a source of stress |
• Cognitive flexibility and avoiding absolute thinking |
• Journaling to examine mental frameworks and adapt to change |
• Adapting to change and navigating uncertainty |
• Reaping and patience in relation to kids and planting food |
• Binary thinking and having control over life circumstances |
• Inherited thoughts and behaviors from parents and grandparents due to past experiences (trauma) |
• Trauma's impact on behavior, such as hoarding or extreme environments |
• How trauma affects one's perception of reality and ability to cope with loss |
• The importance of acknowledging and setting grief alongside other true aspects of life |
• Using a framework or structure to think and process life events |
• Trauma and co-occurring disorders can be difficult to treat simultaneously |
• Using a framework or recipe can help people navigate complex challenges, like cooking or personal development |
• Mental frameworks and associations can limit our potential for growth and change |
• Hope is a key ingredient for life, and believing that we can change can be transformative |
• It's essential to consider the board of advisors (support system) and seek feedback from others to gain new perspectives |
• Even in difficult experiences, there can be opportunities for growth and learning |
• The speaker describes the process of adjusting to change as similar to living with a Garmin GPS that constantly recalculates directions |
• Decision fatigue occurs when too many options are considered simultaneously, draining energy and resources |
• It's essential to prioritize tasks and allocate energy accordingly, knowing that dropping one area of focus is inevitable |
• Embracing challenges for the greater good can make them feel like opportunities for discovery and growth |
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of considering motivations beyond external pressures or authorities. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** What is a mental framework? |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Well, a mental framework is the way in which you learn how to make sense of yourself and the world. Imagine a puzzle and how you fit pieces together. It's this interaction between your experiences in the world and yourself, and the way in which you see them fitting together. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** So if everyone's unique - you're not me, I'm not you, we're not the same, we don't have the same life - would it be safe to say that we have infinite worldviews? |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** That could possibly be. I mean, if you think about it, similar to that, of growing up with siblings in a household - generally speaking, you have the same parents with full-blooded siblings, and so you've gone through the same things. However, the way in which you both respond and/or make ... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Why is it important to develop this mental framework? Why is maybe even important to understand that you have one, or that you're creating one? |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Well, I think it's really important, because one, like we talk about the "name it to tame it", the awareness that your mind is always putting pieces together - it's always accommodating new data. And if you aren't considerate of or around your (even) biases, hypotheses, underlying beliefs,... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** \[04:16\] So the framework is how you respond to things like that. It's your way of thinking. |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yeah, and I would say it's an interpretation. So if I were to presume that I failed - I didn't win a game, or I didn't win first place - that would have implications for my choices thereafter, because it's probably gonna be tethered to some ill or negative feelings, which wouldn't necessar... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Is the good question here to ask "How have we been programmed?" Because you've got the mental framework, which is the way in which you've allowed yourself or have been programmed by the world, conditioning, and then the question might be, for our listeners to consider as they're listening to this co... |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yes. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** And to consider that. Because a lot of that subconsciously happens. Like, I'm programmed and don't even know it, to some degree. My biases aren't always revealed to me, and my way of thinking isn't always super-clear to me until I take the time to be more aware and examine it. |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yes. So I see this a lot, and even if I take it way back - and if you are familiar with Pavlov's dogs, around conditioning, with a dog salivating at the sound of a bell. It was basically around the way in which this dog was reinforced to do a particular behavior, with two things that didn'... |
If I put together a bell and food, the dog began to go "Oh! I start salivating because I know I'm gonna get fed." Well, bells don't typically cause dogs to salivate, but they did thereafter in this case. So I am very aware of this, given the state of our affairs globally, and recognizing that all people are having diff... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. So that's how trauma works. |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It doesn't know time, really. It's like "Oh, that hurt then, it hurts now, it will hurt tomorrow, and I have to act this way because of it." |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yeah, and I think that it's interesting, because even talking about trauma - I want our listeners to be considerate that we've all been traumatized in some way or another, so a lot of people... Even Michael Gervais - he's a sports psychologist for the Seahawks - references this in terms of... |
\[07:52\] One of the key things in that is when we go through something traumatic, that we get activated in the sense of fight, flight or freeze. So I can feel helpless, like there's no way out, because legitimately in those past experiences it was. I couldn't escape. So now we have different constraints. For a number ... |
So this is where I wanna look back and go -- imagine that our mental framework literally were a puzzle with a picture, and that it's not a static thing. We can change and modify the way in which we make sense of both ourselves and how we respond to our environment. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** What's interesting about the bubble we're all creating to some degree with this shelter in place - there's a large majority of the world that is in shelter in place, in that sort of mode; either self-induced, because they have desires to stay home, stay safe, the whole thing that is the mantra out t... |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** So anytime I go out, I'm essentially in a traumatic situation. Sure, I'm not a first-responder, I'm not on the frontlines, in a hospital, dealing with direct Covid patients and helping them through to survival, but in any given moment outside my house is risk, and that's traumatic. |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yeah, it is. And it's interesting, because one of the strategies I talk about a lot with patients when it comes to anxiety is that it's really important to differentiate between things that have occurred in the past, that were threatening, and the not-active threat of the present. And the ... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** And isolation, yeah. Often the remedy is connection. And if you can't connect in the most meaningful way, which is physically -- not that you have to give somebody a hug, or intimately touch, but the point is human connection has a lot of exchange. |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yeah, it does. So it's interesting, even the fact that we're using the word "social distancing" so often... Because I would prefer to use the word "physical distancing", because I definitely don't want people to be more disengaged or distant socially... But rather physical proximity is wha... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** \[11:40\] Yeah. It's terrible too, because not only do you have the threat of illness to you, your loved ones, a lot of people are dealing with financial hardships and uncertainty around that... So you've got several layers of traumatic things happening, that don't have a clear end in sight... And I... |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yeah, precisely, because we're not threatened in the same way we once upon a time were in terms of lions, tigers and bears, but the lions, tigers and bears in our world literally is our financial stability... Because that's how we go about navigating our world and being able to barter and ... |
I've talked about this before, but one of the things that's really important when we look at psychological health is this notion of cognitive flexibility. And I like to talk about it like yoga for your brain. You want to be able to stretch, or move, or flex, as opposed to being very cognitively rigid, or really thinkin... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** We might go deeper into the subject at some point in the future, but can you go one layer further on the dangers of absolute thinking? The sort of black-and-white thinking, binary, as you mentioned. |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Yeah. Well, it really doesn't capture -- and bear in mind, when I'm talking about this cognitive flexibility, this is more so in adults; kids are prone to do this just because their level of abstraction is different than ours. But we need it because much of life is very abstract. I think a... |
Also, there's theories of moral development. Psychologists have come up with this way in which we actually build our ability to make sense around morality... Because again, not everybody thinks the same way, hence why people are reacting to the possibility, and feeling threatened, and therefore going out and taking act... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Yeah. If someone is trying to figure out how they're programmed, what they like, what they don't like, what's a good way to examine the framework that you operate in? |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** I don't think many people are gonna like this answer, but I'm gonna say it anyway... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Okay... I can't wait. |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** Write it down. Journal. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Okay... So journal how I think. |
**Mireille B. Reece, Psy.D:** \[15:58\] Yeah. So I would, ironically -- and I would do it first thing in the morning, and imagine that you sort of go "BLARGHH!" and you sort of throw out all the extraneous things, because it's the most of freeform way... You wake up, nothing else has happened, you have no other interfe... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** What you're suggesting is be a scientist. Collect data about yourself, and analyze it. |
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