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[S1] As long as we're intermittent fasting. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So if you're going to start the intermittent fasting protocol for maximum health and healing benefit, and also taking into account the very real issue of women's hormones cycle, regardless of where you are with your period or not getting one.
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[S1] You are going to start with the new moon, which is that super thin sliver of a, where the hell is the moon, moon. Okay? And that's going to be the beginning of your intermittent fasting protocol. And you are going to stop fasting protocol while the moon is near its full moon phase. Is that what we're doing? [S2] S...
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[S1] Day one, starting the new moon. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Till about day 21. [S2] Perfect. [S1] And then at 21, you switch out and you stop fasting for a week. And then the minute the new moon comes in, you start fasting again.
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[S1] And that's why we're being very specific about this. Now, I want to ask one more very specific question. For those of us in menopause who no longer are going through a cycle, is our 30 days, 21 days on, seven days off? [S2] So, um, there's apps. Let's start there. [S1] Okay. [S2] You just pick up an app and when y...
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[S1] Yeah, I, I can tell you the app I use is called Moonly. [S2] Moonly, okay. [S1] Moonly. And look at where the new moon is. [S2] Okay. [S1] That would be day one of your cycle. [S2] Okay. [S1] And in my book, in Fast Like a Girl, I have a 30-day fasting reset.
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[S1] Got it. You're going to follow your, your menstrual cycle if you have a regular period. [S2] That's right. [S1] If you are not sure, because of birth control or other reasons, when your period is happening, you are going to follow a 30 day pro call, protocol. We will link to resources with all the show notes. You ...
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[S1] So, 30 to 60 days into this miraculous lifestyle, the opposite started happening. [S2] Mm. [S1] She started gaining weight. She started losing her period completely. Everything we've been talking about.
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[S1] Can we just say, fuck you, progesterone. Can we just say that right now? [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Have to complicate things for us. You have four steps to determine which of the six fasting protocols is the right one for you. What are they?
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[S1] Good oils are avocado oil, they're olive oil, they're sesame seed oil, they're, um, you know, there's a lot of great ones. Walnut oil, yeah. [S2] What are the bad ones? [S1] Yeah, let's... [S2] Give me the don'ts. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] The bad ones are canola oil. [S2] Ooh. [S1] Cotton seed oil, corn oil, uh, partially hydrogenated oils. You know, safflower, sunflower oils. I listed them all in the book, but yeah. And they're everywhere. They're everywhere. [S2] Why are they very bad?
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[S1] ... systems in your body. Second, I want, I know we're gonna get a gajillion, that's a technical term, questions. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And so I am inviting you listening. Go to melrobins.com/podcast and you're gonna find a form. I would love if you have follow-up questions. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] I would love to bring Dr...
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[S1] ... is being used by you for maximum health and healing benefit because you deserve that in your life. Dr. Mindy, you are freaking awesome. I have loved every second of this. I am now through my fasting window too, so I am going to go face plant a salad with some steak on top. [S2] Perfect. [S1] I love you. I can'...
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[S1] for explaining all this to us and giving us the gift of healing and health at zero cost. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You frickin' rock. [S2] Mm-hmm. Thank you, Mel, and thank you for being such an incredible mouthpiece for women and for supporting women and for supporting a free health tool like this. I mean, again, this is w...
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[S1] Do you know how many questions have been backed up in the inbox? Like we need to take out a storage unit to store all of the questions that people have from deep, serious, light, funny, personal, too much information. So here's how we're going to do this. My friend and colleague who you've heard on this podcast, g...
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[S1] Some of the, I don't know, 900 pages of questions that you guys have submitted. And they range from advice to curiosities about me. I have no idea what she's going to ask me. [S2] Yeah. [S1] What are we going to call this type of episode? [S2] Um.
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[S1] ... a little bit of everything. [S2] A little bit of everything with Mel Robbins. And your burning questions an- answered, maybe. [S1] Yeah. [S2] I don't know. Something. [S1] Exactly. [S2] Okay. [S1] You wanna jump right in? [S2] We're gonna jump right in. Anything goes. Everything's on the table. And don't fucki...
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[S1] where it's just sustained. You're the one always making the effort. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You're the one that is always asking about them. You're the one that is always making the plans. You're the one that is always reaching out, and you are not seeing that reciprocated. And the thing about friendship that we don't t...
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[S1] and expecting nothing in return. You get to spend your time and energy on relationships that lift you up, that fulfill you, and there's nothing selfish about it. In fact, I think it is, um, it's life-sustaining when you do that. [S2] Absolutely. So you said you could pull back. What does that look like? Like you d...
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[S1] or not, now you know what you're dealing with. [S2] Awesome. Love that. Upgrade your friendship expectations from Natasha. And I'm not gonna say anybody's last name 'cause we're all on a first name basis here, right? [S1] Exactly. [S2] Okay. From Natasha, and she says, "Mel, how do I make decisions without all of ...
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[S1] So pick, pick your person. [S2] Yep. [S1] Five, four, three, two, one. [S2] Boom. [S1] Boom, go. And then all the overthinking, Natasha, out the window. All right, Neely says, "How do you negotiate a salary as a woman with a male boss?"
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[S1] Wow. [S2] Like, I think it was the, seeing artists on stage, seen, singing and acting and plays and that kind of, kind of stuff really brought me alive. Even if you went into church and there was a sermon that really stirred something in you, that's really, if I dig deep, um, I wanted to do something like that, bu...
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[S1] Intro to, I think it was either biology or chemistry class. And I'm like, "This ain't for me." [S2] No. [S1] No, thank you. [S2] Right. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] So it evolved from being a doctor to performer. And then when did you know you were like, "Well,
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[S1] Nice, Mel. Okay, so Trinity says, "Hey Mel, no question. I just wanted to let you know that you're my North Star. I love you, Mel." [S2] Oh, I love you, Trinity. [S1] Okay, so next question. How do you get people to go to therapy but refuse to say that they need it? So how do you get people to go to therapy when y...
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[S1] But you can, um, make it clear what your boundaries are. If somebody doesn't think they, quote, "need therapy," then the first issue is that they don't understand what therapy's for because everybody needs therapy in their life. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Now, let me unpack that sentence. You don't need therapy
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[S1] What's really cute about Shawn's question- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... is that Shawn's trying to control being vulnerable. And Shawn, as a fellow word vomiter, word vomiting is your form of vulnerability. [S2] Nice. Great. Okay. Here we go from, uh, Deanna. She's asking you, "Mel, what's your favorite swear word?" [S1] Sw...
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[S1] ... the F-bomb, I would think. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] I mean, like, as in, like, just a swear word? [S2] Yes. [S1] That's probably my favorite swear word. [S2] Like your all-time favorite thing to say. [S1] That's definitely-
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[S1] ... thing to say. [S2] That's definitely the OG, all-time favorite, felt the naughtiest when you were a little kid, which meant I had the most excited attachment to it. And, um, but, you know, I have, like, kind of swear word, sort of trash insults per season. You have one too. [S1] Yes. [S2] What's your, you've b...
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[S1] Season of fall. [S2] Yes. [S1] My swear word is dick bag. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] I just am really enjoying saying that. [S2] Well, what, I, I laugh every time you say it because you do this thing where you, you have, you do the, Amy, you need to understand, is a stand-up comedian. Like she does stand-up. You really do...
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[S1] Right. [S2] Du-sho, yes. [S1] Right. Well, I like- [S2] It sounds French, du-sho. [S1] It does. [S2] Du-sho. [S1] If you say it really fast, it could be a last name, but you really know that it's your, your private, just private swear word. [S2] Yes. [S1] For, for autumn. Just for right. [S2] Yes, for autumn. For ...
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[S1] There's, there's a couple things you could do. Number one, you could, um, have some fun with it, right? [S2] [LAUGHS] Yeah, you could. [S1] And you could plan like a weekend away.
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[S1] Please help me welcome Lorenzo Lewis, the founder of the Confess Project, to the Mel Robbins Podcast. Lorenzo, it is so fabulous to have you here. [S2] Yeah, so glad to be here. Um, thanks again. This, this is really an honor. [S1] Awesome. Well, it's an honor for us. Why don't we start with the basics? [S2] Yeah....
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[S1] And you are also not only trying to close this accessibility gap, but you're also trying to close, or I should probably say open up, vulnerability. [S2] Yeah. [S1] In communities and with people who feel like therapy is a weakness. And so I would love to go back to your story a little bit because, you know, here y...
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[S1] Can I, can I just say something? When you have kids that go undiagnosed with depression and anxiety and who feel invisible, of course, there will be behavioral issues. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And it makes me very angry and sad, Lorenzo, how many kids are getting disciplined
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[S1] Your aunt and uncle must have been beside themselves with you. [S2] Yeah. [S1] 'Cause she does not seem like the kind of woman that would play around, you know what I'm saying? [S2] Yeah, yeah.
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[S1] They really stood on great things, but I think myself knowing the challenges that I went through, I veered into that path. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And so-
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[S1] Create a barrier- [S2] Yes. [S1] ... between you and your ability to connect to those values and ground yourself there. You become lost in the swirl of emotion and anger and the proverb that you said, that when a child doesn't feel warmed by the village, they'll burn it down. That's why anger rises to the surface ...
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[S1] And what did you study there? [S2] Uh, human services. Yeah. [S1] And for people that don't know what that means, what, what is human services? [S2] Yeah, so it's mostly, you know, um,
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[S1] who leaned into the struggle, who allowed himself to be vulnerable, and you turned your whole life around. And now you're taking all of this and you've turned it into this incredible, incredible organization, the, you know, the confess project, where you're helping millions of people. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And your s...
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[S1] ... you know, um, emotional challenge that, you know, they was there, uh, getting treatment. [S2] So were you working in, like, an inpatient ward for a hospital that was providing mental health services for somebody who was having a breakdown? [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] You are best equipped to help the person you used to be. [S2] Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. [S1] Which means we are all equipped to help someone. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And what you saw in your mid-twenties, and this is why I admire you so much, you saw in your mid-twenties a problem. You saw people that you used to be struggling an...
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[S1] Um, and so because, you know, being strong and most of the time growing up with mothers and no fathers in the home and just, you know, it can be, those can in itself can be some characteristics that can make it very challenging. I think you need to go beyond that is you start to think about, well, what does media ...
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[S1] Our leaders, our, our, our medical system is not the only ones who's truly responsible for this. I believe this is something that goes across our public and civic leaders, churches, and more people should, should be encouraging that mental health is truly a part of who we are every day. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Um, and ...
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[S1] You know, I read that for every thousand barbers and beauticians that go through your four step training process, in terms of the skills that you're teaching them to be mental health advocates, you're reaching a million people. [S2] Yes. [S1] That's incredible. You're reaching three million people a year.
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[S1] ... by training barbers and beauticians to be mental health advocates as they are listening to their clients who are sitting in their chair. [S2] Yes. [S1] And what is the training look like? There are four parts to it, and I would love for you to explain it because these four parts are things that we can all lear...
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[S1] high level results that we got out of it. Um, and that, that goes along to also say that, you know, the confessed project, um, you know, 90% of our barbers, um, that has participated rather receive therapy in a barbershop rather than going to a clinic. [S2] Now, why do you think that is? [S1] Uh, [LAUGHS] I, comfo...
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[S1] We probably accomplished more than what it would have took us ten years to do if I had have done it in a slower pace. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But when you really think about the mental health crisis, when you think about the suicide crisis on young people, the suicide crisis on black men between the ages of 24, knowing th...
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[S1] You know, he say he didn't want to be here any longer. Um, but so happily in that scenario, he was able to get help because two weeks prior to that, we had been in Tennessee doing a training, had brought therapists, and we like to invite therapists to those trainings. Um, or we connect with therapists in local com...
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[S1] Yeah, and I think we all know, 'cause I could imagine some people listening right now as well, why wouldn't you just call the police? Well, I'll tell you why. First of all, uh, in a lot of communities, uh, there is no trust with the police. Secondly- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... having police officers show up when it shoul...
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[S1] and working. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So what's your vision for the next 10 years?
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[S1] When the EMTs arrive. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And this confess project helps keep people alive and keep them going until the professional help arrives. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Thank you, thank you, thank you. [S2] Absolutely. No, thank you all. Thank you so much for the opportunity.
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