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[S1] ... that I wouldn't know or couldn't Google to dispend all of my, my like resignation or skepticism. And then you leaned in and you said something about, you know, you have a son, don't you? And I'm like, "Mm-hmm." And now I'm basically levitating 'cause I realize my father-in-law is standing behind me. [S2] Right...
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[S1] Ken, my father-in-law, has been watching him, and he's a huge fan of our son. And then you said to me a sentence that changed the rest of my life. [S2] Whoa. [S1] You said, "Ken has a message for you about your son." And you said, "I don't know what it means. I hope you will."
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[S1] And I walked off that set today, that day, after you and I talked, Kim, I called my husband and he said, "Honey, I'm not gonna argue with your dead father-in-law. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] We'll try Vermont. We'll try it for a year." He then said, "Well, I didn't tell you what happened last week." I said, "What the hell ...
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[S1] ... that I have ever been in my entire life. [S2] Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, I, I, wow. Whoa. Well, thank you for sharing that. I, when you were speaking, it was coming back to me. Uh, I don't recall the messages that I deliver because they're not coming from me. Uh, so it says, it says, "If I, I am an observer." [S1] Mm...
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[S1] I am more of a teacher of energy. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And energy, and I'm very science-based in my mind. Uh, as spiritual as I am, that's a science-based as I am. I always loved science because my inquisitive mind needs to know how things work.
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[S1] You, you put your ego aside for the betterment of your family, especially your son. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] I have three sons. There's nothing we wouldn't do for our children, as you know. And I like what you said. You said, "Everything within me knew it was the truth."
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[S1] So I know now that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, as we know by science. It can only change form. And energy cannot be destroyed, so if our soul is made up of pure energy, which it is, how can we be destroyed in our consciousness? So it's consciousness that can't be destroyed. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Literally.
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[S1] And that's, that's the God's honest truth. So we have to get off of the loop of everything we've always done and step out in faith. Uh, we all have innate abilities. And what I was about to say earlier is if the conscious mind does not allow you to tap in, these abilities will show up in your dream state. [S2] Mm-...
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[S1] Do you ever wake up and say, "Gee, uh, I'm thinking of so-and-so. Why am I thinking of them?" Something in your sleeping state was telling you to call them when you woke up. [S2] Wow. [S1] So I like to teach people to pay attention
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[S1] While you're awake. [S2] Okay. [S1] Allow the subconscious mind or the soul to filter through the conscious mind, even if it doesn't make sense. Something is telling you this. This, this. Even if it's not a voice, it could just be a feeling, right? I work mostly on feelings, which is called clairsentience. You, yo...
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[S1] Hmm. [S2] We do this every day. We just don't have a name for it. We just don't know. And, and we don't want to give ourselves so much credit, right? That's a thing. People don't like to take credit. I'm not a psychic. I'm not a medium. I'm like, "Yes, you are." I tell everyone, "Yes, you are." [S1] Everybody's a ...
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[S1] A medium can just channel for the moment. For the moment. Medium for the moment. We all have done this at some point in our lives. [S2] Give me an example of the way- [S1] Oh. [S2] ... that you can be a medium in the moment.
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[S1] Have you ever had a conversation with a friend and they're telling you their problems? [S2] Yeah. [S1] Let's just say. [S2] Okay. [S1] Talking about their husband, their relationship, their boyfriend, and you're listening, right? And you're listening with empathy, compassion, 'cause you're a good friend. You're a ...
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[S1] ... again. It's the language of energy. [S2] Okay. And what is the language of energy if you're trying to tap into it for the first time? [S1] Everybody's
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[S1] Um, I am a more visual person, so it, when I receive information, I could like watch a movie in my mind. [S2] Mm. [S1] And I can tell you what's happening in that movie.
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[S1] If you get a vision of something out of nowhere, like a fire or something, pay attention to that. Why did that vision come out of nowhere? Uh, so the first thing I would say is pay attention to how you, how things make you feel. [S2] And be open to it being a message and guidance. [S1] Yes. And the message doesn't...
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[S1] I love this example. When you go through a drive-through. [S2] Yes. [S1] McDonald's, wherever, Taco Bell, which hopefully you don't, but if [LAUGHS]- [S2] Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, you're getting your coffee. Okay. [S1] [LAUGHS] You place an order through this little machine. [S2] Yeah. [S1] This voice. When you p...
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[S1] Well, let's talk about you. [S2] Me? [S1] Yeah, why not? [S2] Oh, God. Okay. [S1] Maybe in your last life, or one of your last lives, you, you hurt some people with your, with your power, or your money, or your notoriety. This is maybe hypothetical. And in this lifetime, you're like, "You know what?
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[S1] And my heart has never been the same since. [S2] Hmm. [S1] But this lifetime, we're gonna, we're gonna ride it out, and we're gonna have, you're not leaving me early, and, uh, you know, maybe I'll leave you before you leave me. So they're just agreements, just like we have agreements here. They usually work with o...
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[S1] ... an experience you want to have. So some people say to me, "I don't know where I should move." Your case was different 'cause there was a son involved and everything else. And here's what my answer would be. There's no wrong or right answer. What experience would you like to have? [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] There's no w...
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[S1] become a medium in the moment and you allow yourself to lean into your intuition and your feeling, whether your power is in the visual or the auditory or the feeling, and I would put mine in the feeling category for sure. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, that's how you tap into that inner wisdom that's programmed in you. Tha...
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[S1] Um, but- [S2] What are they doing? [S1] Uh, well, they're, so they have a lot of jobs there, a lot. And it's no different than here. But most of it has to do with helping our planet.
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[S1] And a lot of it has to do with helping souls transition. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Many people have come through to me telling me over the years, I'll give you just some examples. Uh, maybe a young girl would come through who always wanted to have a, a family, a, a husband and a, and a, a life with children. And they neve...
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[S1] Well, number one is, uh, our earthly life is a blink in, in, in the equation of eternity. [S2] Hmm. [S1] It's a blink. 99 to 100 years is, which is the average lifespan. We're just passing through. That's all we're doing here. Uh, that's number one. So don't sweat the small stuff because you only, you're just here...
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[S1] Right? It's like getting in an airplane. You see the aerial view, but when you're on the ground, you can only see what's in front of you. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So they'd love to talk about the bigger picture and what was keeping you in bondage while you were there on, on your earthly journey, that it was just a figmen...
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[S1] ... we're talking about? [S2] Absolutely. Sure. I love how you just reworded everything. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] That was so per- that was perfect. Uh, and, and how true it is. The left brain is the logic mind, so we have to move into the right brain. That's where the higher wisdom comes from, the downloads, the intuit...
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[S1] There's also something that I love, and it's so much fun, and people could do this with their children. Children, before they've been indoctrinated by this world, their gifts are just, are so highly vibrating, and they don't have that mindset to kind of talk them out of it. So what I would do is take an object of ...
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[S1] ... it, it, just write down the impressions that you're receiving. So, without thinking, don't think yourself out of it. If you see a color, if you feel a feeling, if you're watching a movie and you see, write it down. Give every single piece of information you're receiving. Remember, you're the receiver now. [S2]...
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[S1] And it doesn't have to be like a relic or anything special. It could just be, it could be anything. It could be clothing of a living or a deceased person. [S2] You know, I had something happen the other day. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] And I am still marinating in the meaning of what happened. It was my 27th wedding anniver...
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[S1] His head, like how an owl's head can turn all the way around. [S2] [LAUGHS] Yeah. [S1] Turn, turned from the road all the way backwards. And this owl held eye contact with me. [S2] [GASPS] [S1] For probably 25 seconds.
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[S1] ... that a lot of mediums or psychics can see, and it's, it's connected to, again, I'll call them fuse boxes for th- to just to make a correlation. We, our bodies have chakra systems. There's seven main ones running from the base of your spine to the top of your head, like the crown. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Uh, that's w...
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[S1] So, here's what I would recommend people do trying to tap in. There's different ways we can listen. If you are in a room with a television and you're watching YouTube on your computer at the same time, we have the capability of switching our listening to the television or to the computer on YouTube or whatever. We...
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[S1] I f- I feel good when it helps people. I also feel like I was just doing, um, translation for the deaf. [S2] Mm. [S1] So it's a spiritually deaf. And can I tell you,
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[S1] Thank you so much. Ditto, likewise. Thank you for what you do and everyone here that's making this happen for, I just feel we're doing the same thing, all of us, each one of us in our own way. But thank you. Thank you so much. And I'm glad you listened to the message and I'm glad I listened to my message. [S2] Mm-...
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[S1] I don't disagree with you. And I agree that it's blame is, is the word that I'm, I'm tired of. I guess what I'm trying to tell parents is to zoom out and put into context the anxieties and the fears that they are feeling. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So that they can see them. It's not personal.
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[S1] I asked parents, so we're talking about the stress that they're feeling in their homes, right? I said, "How many of you agree or disagree with this statement on a scale from one to four? I wish today's childhood was less stressful for my kids." 87% of parents agreed with that statement. [S2] I want to know, who ar...
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[S1] I lead with lunch. [S2] What does that mean? [S1] So I, so I, what I used to do before researching this book is my kids would come home and I'd be, you know, thinking, how'd you do on the Spanish quiz? How'd it go on your report today? And what I realized in, in doing the research was that the signal I was sending...
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[S1] I think, you know, what was the best part of your day? I, I think it... [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] What, what mattering to me is, is that I value for who you are at your core. It is not contingent on your performance, it's not contingent on how you look that day, it's not contingent on how many dates you're going on. You m...
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[S1] One of the reasons that people, research finds this, that, that we don't tell people how much they mean to us and how much we appreciate them, is we, 'cause we think they're gonna be embarrassed by our feedback. [S2] Really? [S1] And, yeah, that th- when, there's a research on gratitude, about why people don't exp...
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[S1] And when we worry with others, we feel validated. We hear our worth. We see it in the support that others give us. We get that social proof that we are valued no matter what. [S2] Mm. [S1] Whatever you do, don't, don't worry alone. That's when we get into trouble. So reach out for support. We think as parents, our...
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[S1] ... is that? [S2] Yes. So, I talk about this in the book, that, um, when my oldest was born, almost 18 years ago, I thought about going back to graduate school to get a PhD in psychology so that I could be the perfect parent with the latest research. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] And- [S1] [LAUGHS] I know. [S2] ... crazy, ri...
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[S1] And that takes us off the hook as parents not needing to be perfect. And it helps our kids, you know, regulate their emotions when they get a little bit disappointed and frustrated that they can't have the perfect parent in this situation. [S2] It reminds me of this thing that you wrote, that the difference betwee...
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[S1] But really, criticism impacts our kids up to five times more than a compliment does. [S2] Wow, really? [S1] Yeah, yeah. So what I try to keep in my mind is that to, to create this kind of healthy environment in my house, I need to keep a ratio in mind. I need to think that for every one criticism, I need to at lea...
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[S1] That's going to cost like $100 for crying out loud. You get two checked bags for $25 and I can check a bag with your sh- So I criticized, right? Is that what you're talking about or are you talking about criticizing her for being stupid? [S2] Criticizing her. [S1] Okay. [S2] That's exactly right. [S1] Okay. [S2] I...
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[S1] And now she's on a budget. It's amazing how you don't have champagne taste anymore when you're paying for it yourself. You know what I'm saying? [S2] I do. [S1] And that leads right into something else that I think is super important for everyone to hear based on the research. Chores. Chores. Chores. Chores matter...
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[S1] ... instinctual desire to matter. How so? What chores do is not only build a work ethic and, you know, a, a sense that they're competent. More than that, it shows them that they are in, an important part of the family. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And family is the first introduction to society for a child. And to show them ...
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[S1] A contributing member of the family is one of the most important lessons that we have as parents if we want to start developing a healthier society than what we're seeing now. So instead of saying to your kids, "You need to set the table," I'm sick of setting the table, you could reframe it. [S2] Were you here las...
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[S1] That's true. That's true. [S2] Yeah. I would say one of the things that, um, was an eye opener for me was how important it is to ask our kids for their opinions about things. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] So when we don't ask our kids for their opinions, we tell them, "Your opinion doesn't matter right now." And instead we ca...
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[S1] feel like there's a number of things that you stopped doing. You stopped criticizing, you stopped ignoring their opinions, and you stopped praising them. Is there anything else that you stopped doing or that you changed after doing this research project? [S2] Yeah, I stopped prioritizing having a perfectly organiz...
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[S1] Had a volunteer mandate in their family. So you know how some parents say, "I don't care what sport you play. You can play soccer, anything you want to play, but you have to s- stay active." That's a value in our family. I now have a volunteer mandate with my kids, and it's for everyone in our family. We, we devot...
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[S1] I love that. [S2] I'll tell you another thing I've stopped doing. [S1] Please. [S2] I used to praise my kids. I used to say, "You're so good at this. You're so good at that. Wow, you're strong in math." I have found in the research that a child's sense of self becomes stronger less by being praised, which can feel...
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[S1] We all have this negativity bias and we are, we are programmed by evolution to focus on the negative. But what taking the via survey did is that it helped me see the inherent strengths of my kids and it made my kids feel seen and known by me. [S2] I'm stealing that from you. And I think we should do it as a team a...
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[S1] And at home, what I have to do, values operate like a zero-sum game. So the more you spend on those extrinsic values, the less room in your life you have to focus on the intrinsic ones. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You just have so much time in the day. So what the research says is that parents need to really focus on the in...
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[S1] Just infinite ways. And your research and the simple things that you're saying actually make a difference in your life and in anybody else's life when you bother to use it. So Jenny, Wallace, thank you so much. The book is Never Enough. Get it, read it, apply it because it matters. [S2] Thank you so much, Mel. [S1...
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[S1] ... to see you. [S2] It is so good to see you. Thank you for making time for me and for every person listening, uh, in the middle of a very, very busy schedule. But you were the one person that I really wanted to talk to today. [S1] Oh, I'm so glad you reached out and so glad you're, you're addressing this because...
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[S1] Mm-hmm. It is so important for us to learn to honor and be in touch with our own feelings. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And a part of the way we do that is bodily awareness, because our bodies are telling the story, our bodies are giving us information, and sometimes we're ignoring that. So when I wanna know how I feel, then...
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[S1] Uh, we can also use our artistry, uh, those who are open to therapy, whether you're already in or willing to seek it out. Being able to make the connections between the larger story and my individual story. [S2] Mm. [S1] Uh, because it, it lines up. It intersects. What is happening there
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[S1] Yes. So for me personally, it's challenges with sleep. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Because there is so much to think about, so much to consider, uh, so much to feel. And then those of us who are parents, sometimes during the day, you're on and focused about their care. And once they are in, th- once they are in bed, then yo...
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[S1] Uh, what you have seen throughout the day. Uh, so that is one of the ways. And then, uh, another way for me is looking for, uh, community and creating connection. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And we know that social support is what we call it
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[S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Absolutely. So it is integral, uh, an integral part of our healing is finding the balance for yourself of, I want to be informed but not overexposed. [S1] How do you know the difference?
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[S1] And so, uh, just to say to yourself, I wanna know what is happening in the world because I care, and, uh, I don't want to make that the only thing I consume. [S2] Mm. [S1] And we are such layered, complex beings, uh, and so to have the fullness of each other's stories, then we have to see each other beyond the tra...
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[S1] While the world is spinning around me. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And that is important as well because some of us do not get the luxury of everything being post. Uh, so to say to myself, I have to wait for all of this to be over to reconnect with me would be a lifetime and perhaps generations before that can happen.
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[S1] Uh, one of the ways that bring us home to ourselves, uh, is our, our spiritual practices. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And whether for people that is, uh, meditation, whether that is prayer, whether that is gathering with people of a similar faith, whether that is reading a sacred text. And for some people, that may be about...
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[S1] Right? So both of us just shared something that could be vulnerable or personal in terms of how this is impacting us. And when we share and when we hear each other sharing, it puts breath in the room. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] It gives spaciousness there for there to be actual care.
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