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bilibili_data_22095156_BV19a4y1q7Yz_p4_BV19a4y1q7Yz_p4_m4-dialogue_0303351 | [S1] Dr. Kennedy in the house, people. So let's go back to the basics. [S2] Okay. [S1] Anxiety 101. [S2] All anxiety is separation anxiety. [S1] What does that mean? [S2] The reason why you're anxious in the first place is because you block love. So when you say, "I love you." [S1] Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. [S2] Yeah... | 26.2 | 3.205514 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_22095156_BV19a4y1q7Yz_p4_BV19a4y1q7Yz_p4_m4-dialogue_0303351.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_22095156_BV19a4y1q7Yz_p4_BV19a4y1q7Yz_p4_m4-dialogue_0303353 | [S1] Is this thing going, guys? We're good with the recording? Okay, awesome. I am so excited. My favorite episodes are ones where I feel like I'm getting a personal therapy session- [S2] Okay. [S1] ... that the world can listen on, so. [S2] Okay. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] How deep do you want to go? | 14.04 | 3.306668 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_22095156_BV19a4y1q7Yz_p4_BV19a4y1q7Yz_p4_m4-dialogue_0303353.mp3 | [
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