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[S1] Fact that you're scared of the alarm or you can't tolerate it and you don't understand what it's trying to ask of you, that makes it worse. [S2] Yes. [S1] And if you were to realize that any tension or fear or kind of scary feeling in your body is an alarm system,
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[S1] ... [S2] From your child. [S1] From your inner child- [S2] Or young. [S1] ... asking you for reassurance or love or attention, and you just gave yourself that reassurance or love or attention, the alarm would turn off. Is that what you're saying? [S2] Slowly, yeah, because it's been an adaptation for you, too. You...
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[S1] I don't understand what the ego is. That's too intellectual for me. So, so, so- [S2] You can have me, have me back. [S1] I will have you back to talk about the ego, but the second anybody says ego, I'm like, "Oh, this is somebody who's way smarter than me. I don't want to try to figure out what the hell an ego is....
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[S1] And I want you to understand that we have been taught that we're supposed to attack it from the neck up- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... with the thinking first, and that's one of the things you need to do to cope. But the real heart of healing your anxiety, which you claim you've done, and I want to hear about that. [S2] Y...
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[S1] Well, well, you're a medical doctor, so you can say that. I feel like I understand anxiety. I still hate it. And I need to have a different relationship with it. [S2] You do. [S1] And I need to, and everybody needs. [S2] Yeah. [S1] For the sake of your kids, the people that you love, for yourself, you need to unde...
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[S1] ... to listening to the alarm and diffusing it in a way that, wow, so over time if you do this, the alarm doesn't go off as much? [S2] Uh, no, yeah, that's true. Uh, it's not as intense and you're not compulsively running up into your head when you feel the alarm. So if I had a motorcycle in my front yard, I used ...
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[S1] Oh, emergency, yeah. The emergency. [S2] Okay, so you used to work in the emergency room as a doctor. [S1] Yeah. I delivered babies. I did kind of the whole kind of general thing. [S2] Okay. [S1] Now, uh, if I had a motorcycle in my... Yeah, that's why I bring up motorcycles, just 'cause I used to see bad accident...
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[S1] ... drop off. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] As soon as you put your hand over that place of alarm, you will feel instantly better. I'm not saying it's gonna, you know, take it from a nine to a two, but it's gonna take it from a nine to a four because you're actually, from a, a consciousness perspective, you are actually going...
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[S1] Or I don't like the feeling that I have in my body when I see this person. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And this is a familiar feeling from my past. [S2] Yeah. Yeah. [S1] So for example, if you had like a chaotic parent or an unpredictable parent or a mentally ill parent or an absent parent, that is, this goes back to your ori...
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[S1] That encoded your body when you were tiny. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And anytime then, from that point forward, anytime you again felt invisible or you felt attacked or you felt unloved, that alarm got even stronger. And so now it's like this automatic response in your body to those situations where you feel separate. Am I ...
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[S1] Run away. [S2] Yes. [S1] Run away. You know, to quote a Monty Python. So, so basically what we're doing is we're trying to intellectualize the alarm that we're feeling in our body. And it, the, the, the, it's not, the, the solution isn't in our minds. The solution's in our body, which is why so many people have a ...
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[S1] My big take away right now so far is that all the thinking that we reflexively do about the feelings in our body- [S2] Right. [S1] ... makes the alarm louder.
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[S1] And that we have to learn to stop going above the neck and thinking about what's going on, and we need to train ourselves to go below the neck into our bodies and turn toward the alarm and give ourselves the reassurance and the soothing or whatever it is that the alarm is asking for in that moment. [S2] Yeah. [S1]...
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[S1] ... of truly, what do you, what would you call it? [S2] Getting at the root cause. [S1] Dealing, calming, uh, curing your anxiety. [S2] Getting at the root cause. [S1] Getting at the root cause.
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[S1] That's exactly what it is. You're getting at the root cause, which is the alarm. The thoughts are not the cause. The thoughts are a symptom. So the thoughts are just a byproduct of this alarm that's stuck in your body. Now, thoughts do cause, you know, anxiety. There's no two ways about that. But I think we, where...
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[S1] ... sounds an alarm. [S2] Totally. [S1] And when the alarm sounds and the physiological changes happen, guess what physiological feeling he has? His stomach starts to rumble because as the physiology of the alarm changes and the chemistry in his digestive track changes, he starts getting butterflies that feel like...
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[S1] And I now can see that all of the interventions that were being done with this kid, with therapists, which were all about just change the channel upstairs. [S2] Right. [S1] And then he would turn to them and say, "But sometimes when I change the channel, it takes me to a channel I don't want to watch. So what if I...
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[S1] and just allow them to feel it and create this safe place in your body. 'Cause this is the next place that I'd like to go with this little interview that we're doing. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Is finding a, like people say, "Oh, I don't want to go into my body." It's like, I understand that. So how can we do that? Well, we ...
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[S1] If you wore a pair of glasses, you'd put your hands kind of under where your glasses are, along your cheeks. And so when you said the way that you could practice this, so here's a take away for how you could practice this. You just got what I would call the love sandwich. Hands on the heart, hands on the back. [S2...
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[S1] ... where you locate a safe place in your body, and for you, it was sort of right here alongside your nose. I was trying to think of another one other than the heart. Like, there have been times where I've, like, kinda tucked my hands under my armpits. It's almost like a mini hug. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Almost like, I, I...
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[S1] What are some other places that patients of yours have selected in the past to- [S2] Oh, it's all over. It's all, but basically I get them, where's, where's a safe place in your body? And a lot of them will say, "I don't feel safe." And I'll say, "Well, where's a neutral place?" It's like, "Well, my right knee fee...
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[S1] Yeah, 'cause that feels either safe or neutral, right? [S2] Yeah. [S1] So what we're doing is we're basically training your unconscious mind that this pain that you're feeling in your heart is not all of you, because what'll happen is the amygdala has no sense of time. So when you get triggered, you will go back, ...
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[S1] And then basically what we need to do is train your amygdala, like, "No, I'm not back there. I'm not 11 years old anymore. I'm actually my age that I am now." You go into that, you know, right knee that's neutral. Or if there's, for me, I go into the sinuses, right? So when I get alarm, I wake up with alarm every ...
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[S1] And I can do it a little bit now. I might get a little zony when I do this, but basically. And what I do is I can, I can locate the alarm in my solar plexus. I talk about this in the book. [S2] Where are the solar plexus? [S1] Oh, it's right where your ribs meet. Right where the bottom part of the sternum. [S2] Oh...
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[S1] Well, part of the reason too is that you get a lot of positive attention when you're achieving. [S2] Yeah. Yeah. [S1] And I started marrying achievement with worthiness and being safe and being connected. [S2] Absolutely. [S1] And so when I would be still, there was like every, like achievement means that your wor...
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[S1] Yeah, and the inability to understand it or to tolerate it or soothe it. You also had this post that I was like, "Oh, that's interesting," where you said that you rarely see anyone with chronic anxiety who is not addicted to something. [S2] Yes. [S1] And that there is a tight connection between anxiety and addicti...
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[S1] Sure. So I'm going to mention the E word here, and I hope you don't shut off- [S2] Ego? I won't even understand it. Can you explain it without the ego? What's it? [S1] Your ego is kind of like an over-protective mother. [S2] Okay. [S1] Like, it doesn't want you to go and play on the swings 'cause you might fall of...
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[S1] Yeah, I know. So I'm not going to get into too much neuroscience. [S2] Okay. [S1] So basically, your ego, your ego is hooked into the amygdala and your amygdala says, "We're never doing that again because that hurt us." You know, whatever it was. And, and the amygdala never forgets. So it's basically getting into ...
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[S1] Is addiction typically somebody's coping mechanism for the alarm? So for example, you reach for alcohol because it drowns out the alarm. You reach for porn or drugs or stress or whatever because it- [S2] Achievement. Yes. [S1] Got it. Okay. I got it. So
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[S1] So wait, but you feel the connection to the alcohol or the coding. That's what you're saying. Like, like, so, so this is why I get confused with ego, 'cause I'm like, I don't give a shit about the ego. [S2] Sure. [S1] Like, like the, the alarm, and then what makes sense to me is that addiction mutes the alarm. [S2...
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[S1] ... to, for me it was stress. For my husband it was a daily weed habit. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, like for what that, and, and that addiction is what's muting the alarm. [S2] Yeah. [S1] This is really cool.
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[S1] So where does mindset come in? Because, you know, you, you, there is so much out there about mindset and mental wellness and, and it's interesting because this conversation with you makes me desperate for a different word than mental health. [S2] Sure. [S1] Because even the word mental health makes me go neck up, ...
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[S1] That's what I'm getting from you. [S2] Yeah. And that's exactly what it is. So I would love- [S1] Why don't we call it mental health then? Like what, isn't there, can we come up with a different word that would actually signal you that when you're struggling with depression or you're struggling with anxiety or you...
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[S1] Well, no, well, it's, it's like mindset, body set. Like- [S2] Oh. [S1] What is, what is the place in your body? Can you, can you regulate your body? Because if you regulate your body, your mind will get regulated. If you regulate your mind, your body might get regulated. So what I'm saying is that if you go into t...
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[S1] So that's part of- [S2] And so by activating that, is that what you're saying? You can activate that part by doing the exercises you've already talked about in terms of locating where the alarm is and then finding a neutral part in your body. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Breathing into it. [S1] And just movement. You know, jus...
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[S1] ... but we don't want to feel because that's where the frickin' pain is. [S2] Wow. So I've gotten a couple huge things- [S1] Okay. [S2] ... from this. Um, that first of all, all anxiety results from a separation- [S1] Of some kind. [S2] ... anxiety that has, some kind of separation experience or feeling separate f...
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[S1] We're going to in a minute. Hold on. [S2] Okay. [S1] We're, we're gonna, we save the best for last, but hold on. I got, okay. Keep talking about the fact that when you have this alarm going off- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... you are blocking, like, just say it again. I, I, I, I, like I'm processing, hyper-processing now. I'...
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[S1] When you go into your body and you breathe into the alarm and soothe yourself, you are actually giving yourself love. [S2] Yes. [S1] Holy shit. [S2] And a lot of people with anxiety.
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[S1] That's pretty cool. I think, um, my biggest takeaway, and I keep saying this because clearly every 10 minutes I have a life-changing takeaway from this conversation. My biggest takeaway is the connection between the alarm that goes off and the love that you're not allowing yourself to receive. [S2] Totally. [S1] A...
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[S1] And now, you know, I should preface this by saying that, you know, this is a kid that really struggled. Three different schools before he was done with eighth grade, severe dyslexia, got so severely bullied at a camp that we had to pull him out of it, and the director wrote a long letter apologizing for everything...
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[S1] I can just give it to myself. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's incredible. It's absolutely incredible. I never thought about meeting the alarm of anxiety with acts of self-love.
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[S1] Well, not anymore, 'cause we now know that the second you feel the alarm go off, 5-4-3-2-1- [S2] 5-4-3-2-1. [S1] ... Do not go upstairs. [S2] Get in there. [S1] You go downstairs. [S2] Yep. [S1] You go downstairs. [S2] Yep. [S1] Now, so, I love to leave people in action. Obviously, everybody.
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[S1] Yes. [S2] It was? [S1] As long as it doesn't involve the ego.
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[S1] Okay. [S2] ... and breathe into that. [S1] Okay. [S2] There is a little thing too, uh, that I've kind of taken from Andrew Huberman about, uh, the physiological sigh. Physiological sigh is something that, that humans do, and animals do it too, to calm themselves. And it's usually, uh, two, or one quick sniff throu...
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[S1] asking for love. [S2] Yep. [S1] And you're the one that is going to provide the love and reassurance that you need. So that's number one. The second one is, let's try this breathing thing. Okay, and if you want to see it, go to our YouTube channel because we have video episodes uncut of these podcast interviews th...
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[S1] Wow. What's interesting about that is it requires so much focus that you can't really think about anything else. [S2] Totally. That's one of the other things that it takes you off your worries. Exactly. [S1] And you do feel this sort of relaxing and collapsing feeling inside you.
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[S1] Wow. Well, thank you so much for my personal therapy session. [S2] Any time. [S1] For everybody listening, I hope you got a lot out of it. I, I, this has been a game changer. The alarm love connection is blowing my freaking mind. It is cha- it's gonna change instantaneously how I approach moments of alarm
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[S1] I don't care how old you are. I know we got a ton of college kids that listen to this. You should be thinking right now, no matter how young or old you are, about what you can do to make sure that as you age, you also have the energy- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... that you deserve. Right, Dr. Hyman? [S2] Absolutely.
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[S1] Just- [S2] That's always fun. [S1] Oh, it was a hot mess. [S2] Literally. [S1] Literally. And I texted Dr. Hyman and he-
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[S1] ... texted me back immediately and I went to his wellness clinic in Lennox. And so I also want to say that I have first-hand experience working with his partners and his team and following his advice and it has made a profound difference. [S2] Oh. [S1] And that's why I'm excited for you to be here. [S2] Amazing. [...
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[S1] ... like crazy to have people on this show because the show's been really successful. And I want to make sure that the people that we bring to you are going to give you value and tremendous value by the time of this podcast. And so Donna, who's one of the producers here at 143 Studios, she has something to tell yo...
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[S1] ... miserable. Um, and then around that time, I found one of your books called, uh, The Five Forces of Wellness, I believe. [S2] That was actually a, uh- [S1] An audio. [S2] An audio- [S1] Series. Yes. Yeah, so I, at that time, was divorced, and so I was a single mom and had my son in the back seat, and I would pl...
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[S1] Uh, with dogs around. So, [CLEARS THROAT] I just wanna thank you because I've now run 27, five K's- [S2] Amazing. [S1] ... and I've climbed Mount Washington twice, and I've biked 75 miles in a weekend four times, and I just could not have done that without you. So, thank you so much for- [S2] Mm, that's such a gre...
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[S1] Wow. Donna, first of all, I freaking love you because that, what just happened here is the mission of this show. [S2] Mm. [S1] It is to truly connect people- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... with the information, the inspiration, and the encouragement that they need so that they can take control of their life. [S2] Yeah. [S1] ...
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[S1] has an intelligent healing system. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Built into it. And I immediately thought about the fact that, you know, we all know instinctively that if you cut your hand, your body knows how to heal itself. [S2] Exactly. [S1] And so it- [S2] You don't have to go to the doctor to get a prescription to heal you...
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[S1] Yeah. And so can you just expand upon that for somebody who has never considered that concept. [S2] Yeah. [S1] That your body is designed, when you know how to take care of it, to heal itself, what the hell does that even mean?
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[S1] Feeling. Well, most people don't connect the dots between what they're doing in their life, whether it's what they're eating, or the toxins they're exposed to, or the stress they're under, or the lack of sleep they're getting, or the la- the fact that they, you know, may not move their bodies, or learn how to- [S2...
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[S1] ... reduces their symptoms from all diseases by 70%. [S2] Wait, what? [S1] Yeah. It's, it's, I've done this so many times and I'm like, I, I've been shocked myself 'cause like, whether you have migraines or irritable bowel or depression or insomnia or joint pain or fatigue or brain fog, whatever the stuff you're f...
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[S1] When the element gets off, until it gets off. And so then people have the insight. And it is, you know, I've written many books about how to do this. [S2] Yeah. [S1] In my new book, Young Forever, I explain how to do this. Uh, I've written a book called The 10 Day Detox Diet, which is really what I used in my pati...
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[S1] Because I want to go point by point by point because I can feel, can you just hear Dr. Hyman winding up? He's about- [S2] I'm just winding up. [S1] He is so excited. This is a 63 year old man with a six pack for abs in the best shape of his life who has just written Young Forever, The Secrets to Living Your Longes...
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[S1] Uh, living to 170. This is a book about truly maximizing the years that you do have. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Being energetic, being strong, being vital, having, like, your presence of mind, being able to tap into the full opportunity of your life. And so I wanna back up a couple steps because we were talking about the fac...
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[S1] Because you talked about the fact that our bodies are designed to heal. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And so I want to give people a metaphor to start to think about, because you've already started talking about food. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And that we don't stop and think about the fact that the environment that we live in,
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[S1] And the things that we stick in our mouth and put into our body, and the stress that we endure- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... are all things that we can change for the better- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... that have a material demonstrated impact on the quality of your health, to the point where if you take this seriously, within s...
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[S1] ... Exposome, which is all the sum total of all the experiences you've had, all the toxins, all the thoughts, all the relationships, all the food you've eaten. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Everything. Washing over your biology, creating the expression of who you are in this moment. And so,
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[S1] Wow. Okay. So what a good metaphor, and maybe you have a better one, but I keep thinking about like, if you think about the fact that a car, brand new car is designed to drive. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Right? It needs fuel though. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So if you want to take care of your car, you put in the, the fuel that doesn'...
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[S1] other stuff in food that we've ignored besides calories, and it's the informational molecules in food. 'Cause food is not just calories, it's information, it's instructions, it's code that up-regulates your biology or down-regulates it every single bite. [S2] Wow. [S1] It changes your gene expression, your hormone...
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[S1] ... is changed in real time by what you're eating. And, and it's the informational molecules, the medicinal molecules in food that are speaking to us and changing everything about how we feel. Like most people don't connect their food and their mood. [S2] No. [S1] Or their food and their asthma, or their food and ...
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[S1] So is that kind of like, you know how when you put yeast in bread and it ferments and it starts to rise? [S2] Not quite. Not quite. [S1] No? Okay. [S2] No, it's actually fat. [S1] Oh, that's actually fat. Okay. [S2] It's not just gas. [S1] Okay. Okay. [S2] And, and so this guy was telling me how he would have thes...
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[S1] Wow. Okay. Let's back up a few steps. So I've got some, I want to talk about where do we start. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Okay? Because you just threw a whole lot at us and I want to make sure that everybody listening- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... leaves with a better understanding of how their body is designed to heal itself and ...
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[S1] ... that power inside of us. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And so I wanna talk a little bit about, um, you write so much about food and we've already started talking about it. And in particular, I'm huge, I'm a huge fan of your book, The Blood Sugar Solution. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Which is where I think you're one of the first peop...
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[S1] Oh, yeah. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] All this for goodies, but listen, you know, everybody, and I'm gonna have you explain it, you know, you probably, you may have heard that your gut is called the second brain. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But what you may not know is that during the formation of you as a human being- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S...
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[S1] And they separate, but they stay connected. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Via neurotransmitters. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So I think about it like, almost like, like, like goop. Like you break goop in half and it's got those stringy sections. [S2] Yeah. Yeah. [S1] And part of it becomes your brain and the second part becomes the gut. An...
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[S1] ... and the gut nervous system and the brain nervous system and how they're connected. And, and that's a real thing. [S2] Yeah. [S1] There's constant communication. There's more neurotransmitters in your gut than your brain. But what's now happening is the understanding of this sea of bacteria in there that are al...
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[S1] But there's inflammation on the inside. [S2] Oh. [S1] And, uh, and it's silent inflammation. You know, if your brain's inflamed, it, it, it doesn't get red and swollen, but you get depressed and you have ADD and you have personality issues and you can't sleep and you're anxious, right? [S2] Oh. [S1] So we're now u...
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[S1] Wow. [S2] Which is one of the hallmarks of aging I talk about in Young Forever in my book. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And the, the beautiful thing is that we now know what is driving the inflammation on the inside. [S1] What's causing us to have inflammation on the inside? [S2] Well,
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