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because i can maage to get to this point but never to the full equation
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volunteer
That is it! It is in intercept form!
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student
ohh oops i got confused with vertex form
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volunteer
And out x-intercepts here would be at 1 and -8!
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student
ok well then how would we go form intercept to vertex and from standard to vertex?
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volunteer
Lets start with standard.
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volunteer
First we get all of the x to one side
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volunteer
Do you understand how we got here?
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student
yes
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volunteer
Then we complete the square!
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student
but i thought you said you need the x to one side, why'd you take c?
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volunteer
all of the x's are not on the same side
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volunteer
and I am going to change a number in this equation to make it nicer to solve.
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student
im confused, arent all the x's on the same side still? 8 was a constant so it doesnt have an x, right?
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student
so now we just have x^2 and 4x the only x's
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volunteer
Yes! you do want all of the x's on the same side!
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student
ohh ok
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volunteer
Do you know how to complete the square?
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student
taknig half ot the b term, square it and add that to both side?
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volunteer
Yes!
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student
so +16
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volunteer
Try again!
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student
oh oop i was looking at 8
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student
ok so +4
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volunteer
Yes!
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volunteer
Then we can factor it!
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student
ok so we have (x+2) becuase 2 is the b/2 right?
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volunteer
WE have the x+2 because it is what adds to 4 and multiplies to 4
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student
ohh ok so if we use the X for the equation on the right those are the X's we'd get
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volunteer
Yes!
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student
but would my reasoning also work or no?
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volunteer
Yes!
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volunteer
That is also a way to think of it!
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student
ok so then to complete it to vertex form we would just subtract 12?
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volunteer
Yes!
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student
OKOK i get it now
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volunteer
If we were to graph this, what would the vertex be at?
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student
(-2, -12)
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volunteer
Yes!
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student
ohh ok
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volunteer
Do you want another problem?
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student
yess
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volunteer
Change it to standard form.
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student
x^2+2x-8?
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volunteer
Excellent!!
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student
yayyy
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volunteer
Want another one?
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student
yes lets do like 2 more before we move onto the next topic
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volunteer
The good thing is, we are covering most of the topics right now!
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volunteer
Change this to vertex form!
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student
(x-5)^2-15?
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volunteer
Not quite!
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student
oh i think i know where i went ewrong
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volunteer
The first thing we want to do for this one is make the x^2=1
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We can factor the 2 out of the x
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student
yess exactly
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student
can i jjust divide the equation by 2 and like never see that again?
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student
or do i have to group it out wih the parenthesis
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volunteer
You have to group it out
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student
ohh ok
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volunteer
Because then on the other side you would have y/2
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student
oh yes youre right
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volunteer
What would we do from here?
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student
(-4/2)^2 then add to both side
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student
so +4
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volunteer
Yes!
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volunteer
But notice how we are adding it inside the parenthesis
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volunteer
so we can not just add 4 to the other side
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volunteer
We have to add 8
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volunteer
Because in this case, we are adding 8 to the overall equation!
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student
oh ok
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volunteer
What would we do from here?
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student
-10+8 so y-2= 2(x^2-4x+4)? what would we do with the side that has the parenthesis
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volunteer
We would factor it!
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student
ok so y-2= 2(x-2)(x-2)
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volunteer
Yes!
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volunteer
In then we can square that because it is the same thing twice!
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student
so y-2= 2(x-2)^2
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volunteer
Yes!
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student
and we would just leave the y-2?
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volunteer
Then you add it back
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volunteer
Then that is vertex form!
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student
ohh ok
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volunteer
What do you want to do now?
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student
like as for topic wise or what i want to do within this changinf forms topic?
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volunteer
what would you like to do next? Do you want to stay on this topic or move on to a new one?
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student
i think we can move onto a new one
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volunteer
Ok :)
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volunteer
What topic do you want to do?
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student
could you give me some more quadratic equations to firgure out how to solve using either of the 3 methods? Unfortunately I'm not allowed to use the quadratic formula in class so its just completing the square, square rooting, and normal factoring
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volunteer
How about you try to solve this one?
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student
im sort of stuck here teacher
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volunteer
We are trying to solve for x here
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So out first step is to make it equal to 0
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student
oh yes yes
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The we can factor it!
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student
(x-2)(x+6)
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volunteer
Yes
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volunteer
What is the final answer?
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student
x=+2 x=-6
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