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And, um,
Okay.
So how do you just figure ,
Well, you know, it depends upon our weather here. You know,
today was a beautiful day
it was like, uh, uh, summer day.
It was seventy degrees
so so I dressed in, uh, uh, a light weight skirt,
Wow.
it's a, uh, ultra suede skirt and a blouse with a sweater, cardigan over it.
Uh-... |
Um, when I was a teacher, um, in Utah, I would generally wear, um, dresses and heels and things like that,
Uh-huh.
and even when it, um, rained and snowed I just braved it
and I wore heels anyway
Yeah.
And,
I, I can see,
I, I've been a teacher so has my daughter
and I know that we very often wore heels despite the fact... |
Oh, yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
we too. Um,
if it was it looked really dangerous then I would wear boots
but then I would change, um, into heels, as soon as I got to my desk.
Uh-huh.
So, um,
Of course, we wear, uh, an unlined boots, you know,
it has a heel on it.
They're the kind of boots that I wear to work
and we wear them,... |
but they keep your feet nice and toasty from the rain.
Oh.
As I have a private high school that I run here and so when I'm interviewing a parent, of course I feel like I need to wear heels you know, and look like I'm a business person. You know, because the children will tease about where's your motorcycle, if you wear... |
uh-huh.
But of course, here we wear a light weight jacket a lot you know, you know,
Oh, that's nice.
and, uh, that's very seldom
we, it depends upon our winter.
We have a few days you might wear a coat, winter coat, you know,
but most of the time you can wear a sweater
and we just don't wear coats much.
We often laugh ... |
And so the way I dress is really different because I'm working in the nursery room with kids from six months to like twenty months.
Oh, so you don't wear heels anymore I'll bet.
Yeah,
I wear, uh, tennis shoes, and jeans and things that, you know, are sort of, um,
Yeah,
uh-huh.
More practical.
not,
yes,
it doesn't matt... |
they look tacky a lot
but I didn't think teachers should, you know.
Yeah,
that's how I feel too.
Yeah.
Do you like, uh, uh, Iowa?
Um, oh, it, there's some good things about it
but I've seen. A lot of things I'm not used to yet, um,
Where did you live before?
Um, we lived in Utah before
and, and I grew up in California.... |
Uh-huh.
And my wife and I these days are especially into opera.
We've been sort of opera fans for a few years now.
Um, do you go to the operas that they sing English or go to the ones that they sing other languages?
Well, we, uh, generally,
the places we've gone they sing in the original languages.
Uh-huh.
Like the Dal... |
Well, they, they give an, uh, an English translation on a, on a screen up above the stage.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
That can help people like me.
In fact, they even do that for operas sung, sung in English, because it is hard to understand the words sometimes.
Well, I can understand that.
So, I'd say, Vivaldi is p... |
So, I get to go to at least four or five concerts a year
Uh-huh.
How, how old are they?
One is thirteen and one is eleven.
So they're doing this in school, or what?
Yes.
Uh-huh.
Yes .
Well, you've got half a string quartet there.
Yeah.
We're on our way.
Yeah.
So, uh, um, I try to enjoy all of it.
Well, since you seem t... |
uh-huh.
Do you belong to that?
No,
I don't,
but I think I know what it is.
Isn't that a, uh, uh, see,
can't you get records through that or something, recordings?
You can get recordings.
Uh, they know have them on compact disc or or, uh, or cassettes or L P
Uh-huh.
and, uh, they do their, they do a lot of original reco... |
They go to conductors, uh,
and, and they actually have them perform the music,
and they record it.
So, they're actually commissioned performances.
Sure.
A lot of them are.
Uh-huh.
Or they will find out when they're performing,
and they will, uh, record the music at that time.
And so, uh, it is, uh, uh, high quality gra... |
my roommate signed me up.
He got a bonus record,
and I got a lot of bills
I see.
So we have to watch that.
Well, that's good.
Uh, do you play any instrument yourself?
Yes,
I, I play guitar and, and early years played saxophone.
How do you feel about the Viet Nam war?
Huh, well, um, you know, I guess it's pretty deep fe... |
Uh-huh.
You know, what for him to finish me off
And, uh, it, it was, uh, good to remember the, uh, that, that kind of Asian philosophy that, uh.
Uh-huh.
Well, were you ever in Viet Nam
or,
No,
no,
I was kind of an in-between, uh, finally drew a high draft number,
and you?
Um, I was much too young,
I was born in sixty... |
Uh-huh.
I mean, I just didn't know.
So, uh.
Well, um, so well do you, do you feel that it was worth what we did over there?
Um, yeah,
just a second.
Okay.
Okay.
Sure,
now. Well, Mark, um, what was that again?
Um, do you think, I mean, do you think, our the investment in lives and money was worth it?
No,
not, not really... |
So it's pretty serious, really, you know,
lot of things that aren't being addressed.
Uh-huh.
I think you know, that's pretty typical that, of the entire, entire involvement over that, you know, that nothing was really addressed,
it it wasn't, you know, it was never
we, we announced that we were going to war,
it was suc... |
Uh-huh.
Hey Mark I've got to go, um.
Yeah.
Okay.
We'll see you.
I guess our five minutes are up according to me.
Are they to you?
Uh, I wasn't really keeping count.
But I guess,
good-bye.
Yeah,
okay,
bye-bye.
Bye.
Okay.
So, uh, Mike, what are your opinions on, uh, trial by jury?
Well I work for an insurance company
so ... |
but then they leave the awards up to more learned people.
And I think maybe that avoids some of these totally ridiculous, you know, like millions and millions of dollars
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
That, that seems to make sense
but leave it up to the more experienced person who knows how it fits into the, uh, kind of the rate for d... |
Well, how do you feel about setting, like, well, for example, a car type accident where, uh, or some incident where someone loses a limb.
Do you think the jury should have a dollar figure for losing an arm, a dollar figure for losing different body parts?
I don't know.
You know some of the health insurance is written ... |
If it's a company, you know that they're insured. Unless the award is so staggering that it goes all beyond their layers of insurance which is another pet peeve of mine when they do award punitive damages,
Huh.
I think those should be uninsurable.
I think those should have to be paid by the corporation itself that, th... |
Sure.
and one of the employees actually is driving by with a forklift
and he pushes the wrong button
and he drops a load of lumber on somebody
and it injures, them.
Okay.
Well,
Sure.
Insurance should pay for that.
But in some instances you're going to put companies out of business by taking that stance, if they have t... |
So again, it never really penalizes, the company doing the wrong.
Right.
That will,
They can go right on doing the same old thing they always used to.
Huh.
And if, if they know some practice is wrong, you know,
I'm not talking about your isolated occurrences,
I'm talking more about the, you know, the thing that they k... |
And, uh, have some,
Well, you should, you should have some opinions on that, then.
I do have some thoughts on that,
yeah.
Uh, it's, uh, an interesting experience to be a surrogate parent for, or parent for a lot of people there,
and, uh, it's also very interesting in terms of how people choose the child care facilities... |
And that was the most difficult thing of all, to find the, the right people, the qualified people.
And it's the most difficult of all for a parent, judge, uh because a person can be very nice and warm and loving,
Oh,
but if he's a space cadet and doesn't watch the children, and be aware of what the safety hazards are,
... |
Right,
well, you know, the, uh, uh, the world is changing uh, from from, uh, industrial, uh, base to, uh, information base
and so what that means is you don't have to be physically powerful to work.
Uh-huh.
That's exactly right.
All you have to do is have a sharp mind,
and I believe that, uh, mental acuity is easy to s... |
Well, it should be used as a deterrent do you think?
Well,
Or should it be used, uh,
Yes,
yes.
To prevent these people from ever getting out on the street. By, you know, some technicality.
And they go down the line ten years
and then on some little technicality they get out and on the streets again doing the same they ... |
Of course, you have to also put value on the criminal.
Right.
So if you terminate him, that's a loss of value.
Well, that's true
So, you know, if you weight everyone equally, then you have to say, well the likelihood of not terminating him,
if you don't terminate him, the likelihood is expected value of loss of life is... |
Uh-huh.
Now, are they, are they rehabilitative or, or not.
Now that's all fine and well and, and, uh, good philosophical.
But if you're involved yourself, personally
Uh-huh.
uh, I know I have a friend whose, uh, son was murdered, uh, on the night before his sixteenth birthday.
And let me tell you, uh, I, I knew them pe... |
Uh, well, actually he has, I, I'm sorry. He was convicted, uh,
and, of course, now, you know, and you go through two or three hundred years of appeals process
but
Yeah,
yeah.
That appeals process, I mean, it's what, you know, really, you know, just drags out and out and out.
My brother-in-law here in Texas, his, by mar... |
I, uh, I think the question is posed somewhat strangely because, uh, it's talking about a requirement for public service
Uh-huh
and, of course, the Peace Corps, the Boy Scouts is a, is a voluntary activity.
Right.
Uh,
I, I think that might be talking, referring to, uh, something, kind of, uh, alternative to the draft, ... |
but I suspect that was not what they had in mind either.
More of a voluntary kind of thing
Yeah.
or, uh,
Yeah,
yeah
for, for years there has been an idea batted around of having some sort of alternative, uh, public service for, uh, young people to go into, uh, after high school.
Uh-huh.
Uh, kind of in lieu of the draf... |
For me, it would have been lousy idea, uh, because I, I did have the personal discipline.
Why?
And I went to college for four years and got out, you know,
Why is that?
so. But, uh, you know, for some people that's good.
I, I don't particular like the fact that it's the military, you know,
and the whole point of the m... |
and it was, uh, you know, it was definitely a projection of U S power on the other side of the globe,
so, at, at any rate, this is getting off the topic
but
my, my point was that there is, for people who don't want to do the military service, there, it would be neat if there were an alternative that could instill the s... |
it, it's very essential for me.
Schools have them,
uh, but lot of times so difficult to get on them at school.
It's very easy, it's much more convenient to have one at home.
Where you going to school?
At Georgia Tech.
I see.
Yeah,
so.
In engineering?
Yes, actually.
So that explains all the, uh, computer assignments.
Ye... |
so. Have you, do you have a computer for yourself at home?
No.
No,
I just have one for my son
and I really sort of have the feeling that word processing is a big market for home computing.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
At at work, uh, I'm a technologist, uh,
and I, in the past, have done a great deal of, of, uh, system development ... |
so I can log into the the, uh, network at Georgia Tech and access my account through there, which is, which can be useful.
But, uh, yeah
that's, that and word processing is
while I tend to,
I mean, obviously, I do most of my, almost all of my report writing on, on my computer, uh, whether it's term papers or even some ... |
It's a little bit strange for me.
I, I did my Master's thesis, uh, last year
and I did that on a computer
and it seems like,
I just can't imagine how people did it before.
It must have been just so much, so much work
Yeah.
It, uh, well, you know, it's just, it was just a completely different world then.
Yeah.
So, uh, s... |
Huh.
Uh, so I let my son do it
and, Uh, of course, you know, there's, uh, there's an intellectual evolution taking place where,
Yeah.
it's sort of a joke
but it's really true,
the old-timers, even the people who are technologists don't know how to operate these electronic things like V C R and whatnot
and the kids, the... |
but yet they accept it.
Well, the thing of it is, if I wanted to just, uh, you know, permanently become a book reader, I guess I could just, uh, you know, uh, go on public assistance, uh, you know look for, uh, look for people to, uh, take care of me.
Like so many people do.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, probably a good woman,
rig... |
You are you in business for yourself?
No.
I, I, I work for the F B I.
So I, I'm a federal employee.
Right.
Yeah.
Guess I don't sound like it huh?
Uh, well, I
no
I think that people that work for the government are just as against taxes as, as everybody else, you know. Unless you work for Internal Revenue
Yeah,
I belo... |
this is, this is, tax not tax revolt country.
I mean there's too many,
every one of us, most of us have our, have all four feet in the trough, you know. Plus our snout, right up to our ears.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's not exactly that kind of a place that, that you want to, you know, get into a tax revolt situation.
Righ... |
Yeah.
Course I don't know whether I want to go to Bulverde or not, you know or Seguin or someplace like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, uh, there's certainly lots of inexpensive places where the services are poorer.
And, and I think really the only place you can really reduce the amount of taxes you pay is to move to an area wh... |
They don't use any of those services that a lot of the taxes go towards.
Right.
They, they redecorated in nineteen seventy-five, you know.
Uh, yeah.
And they're not doing it again, you know.
Yeah.
So. Well, it's certainly, uh, uh,
you must be a T I employee.
You must be what?
You must be a T I employee?
No,
I'm not
You... |
Uh, generally I get, uh, you know, most of my news, uh, in the, you know, weekly magazines like TIME, NEWSWEEK and, and, uh, U S NEWS AND WORLD REPORT. With, with occasional smatterings of, of, uh, you know, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL and, of course, the local paper.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, my, my only complaint is I really don'... |
But, uh, it turns out that, uh, that, that the C N N is, I think, is great. And for, for things like hurricanes and fast breaking events
Uh-huh.
but generally, they're, they're, they're more sound bitish, you know, kind of thing
and, and I don't really, uh, you know, I don't really feel as though I've a gotten sufficie... |
did you use to live around here?
Uh, Redwood City.
I use to work at Anteks.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah,
okay.
I know exactly where that is.
Anteks, Amdahl and places like that.
Yeah,
we, we get the MERCURY which I generally think is actually a pretty good newspaper
Yeah.
the newspaper I really been impressed with it when I've ... |
Uh-huh.
if, if I watch any news program, it will be MACNEIL LEHRER. And, and occasionally C SPAN.
Uh-huh.
I, I like a, I saw the, uh, the, uh, the, the tapes that were, that were run of Marion Berry's drug bust
was, the whole thing was, was run on that
and and, and also, they have the, uh, the, uh, uh, PARLIAMENT'S Q... |
Thatcher,
Major .
and I said to myself, it's another Monty Python that I didn't know about
And then, and then up jumps Margaret Thatcher off her green bench
and I said oh, it's Parliament
Which could be another of Monty Python.
Yeah.
So I, I thought to myself, I can't wait.
I'm going over to, to Britain in mid, you kno... |
Oh, yes.
You do!
Yes,
very much.
Well, wouldn't you know
As a matter of fact, I prefer public television.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, I have, particularly enjoy the English comedies, and the English mysteries.
Yeah,
Yeah,
I watch mysteries too.
Is that what you're referring to?
Yes.
Okay,
yeah.
That is good.
I like, uh,
do you re... |
well that's the reason why I like both of those programs is because they're kind of based on books.
Yes.
And, the plots are more, um, challenging, you know, than the sitcoms of regular T V.
Well, unfortunately for us at least here in the United States, we, the only access we have to that of course is public television.... |
Uh-huh,
Really.
so I have concentrated on watching James Bond movies, this week
I used to like him too,
he was my hero.
In fact, I like Sean Connery to this day.
Well, they're showing uh, LIVE AND LET DIE at this moment,
Yeah.
and, it is the first appearance of Roger Moore as double oh seven.
Yeah.
So,
Oh, he can never... |
Whereas, uh, Sean Connery has maintained the, uh, how would you, uh, ruddy look,
Uh-huh,
yeah.
I liked his accent too.
And, he can even be in movies that are not, uh, uh, sexually oriented,
and he still comes off great.
Well, you know he was, when was it, last year or year before last, he was voted the sexiest actor in... |
yeah.
the Interior Minister of, in England, with the permanent secretary, and bureaucracy and all that.
Uh-huh.
Right.
Right,
I, I've seen it several times.
It's a scream,
but I have to go to bed,
I have to get up and, and work the next morning.
I wish they'd put those,
that's why I say, did you stay up late to watch t... |
I know.
Well I, I, I'm not much of a television watcher.
I, I read as I said, and, uh, quite a bit.
Uh-huh.
I read about two or three novels a week, in addition to all the technical stuff.
Yeah.
What, what do you do?
What kind of work do you do?
I'm a Payroll Clerk.
Just an accounting clerk.
At T I?
No, uh,
I have a fr... |
yeah,
it could be T I I think, probably are participating more than anybody else,
but I needed the money.
This is five bucks here.
I think that's something we all
Yeah,
really.
Do you work for T I?
No,
no,
I work for G T E. In Maryland,
Really?
yes.
How did you hear,
oh we're not even supposed to be talking about this ... |
And, that's my field of work also.
Oh!
So I, I know the people at T I who are doing this
and I heard about it,
so I called them and asked if I could participate. And, uh, You know send in the forms et cetera and uh so forth.
Oh.
Right.
We could go back to television shows.
Well, you know, speaking of public TV, have yo... |
Right.
Okay,
so you can have,
there's one word for love of your brother, one word for love of your wife, one word for, you know, uh, love of your father, and that sort of thing.
So, in, as to those types of interpretations, uh, really made a difference in how one might interpret the Bible now, and what it's at.
Uh-huh.... |
Really.
But, uh, as, as far as that goes, I, we at least agree on what we enjoy.
Yeah,
that's right.
But, uh, I don't know if there is, there is a time limit on this, so, uh.
Yeah.
Surely we've made it.
I think so too.
Let's just,
it's been very pleasant talking to you,
It was very nice talking to you.
and have a good ... |
Right.
So, I believe them
but I'm not a chemist.
Do you, uh, do you think that those are bigger contributors than things like acid rain and some of the pollutants that come from, uh, industrial areas, factories and so on?
I don't really know, um,
I grew up in Los Angeles and have felt like I was victimized by air pollu... |
People say that it is somewhat better.
Right.
Um, I, I don't know if you heard about the, uh, recent legislation in, uh, Colorado, uh, against a power company, uh, that's actually on Indian land, I believe,
but, uh, it has been ruled against, uh, regarding air pollution because they think that it's causing terrible smo... |
It would be a shame to ruin it.
Yeah.
Uh, what do you think individuals could do, or society could do to alleviate this problem.
Uh, I don't, uh, I don't know whether we could do a whole lot as individuals. Uh, maybe just take good care of our cars, and make sure we keep our pollution devices clean and all that sort of... |
the, the, uh, lobbyist and, uh, the car manufacturing companies have, uh, you know, have really pushed,
they ,
all those restrictions are really too hard,
we can't, we can't quite make that go
and they don't
and then we still live with air pollution.
Yeah.
Um, so I suspect that that's one thing that, that as individual... |
So, if you don't want to burn coal for power, how about nuclear energy.
Sure.
Well we don't want that either.
Exactly,
yeah,
right.
How about investing in the sun.
Well nobody wants to pay twenty-five cents a kilowatt hour, I don't think.
Right.
Uh, I probably wouldn't mind if it really came down to it.
Well it's just ... |
however, it might have had other causes.
Certainly oil was a big factor.
Oh certainly,
yes.
Um, and I think that's probably going to happen with, with such things as air pollution, when we, when we get serious about cleaning, about our motors in our automobiles then, uh, then maybe, you know, we'll have a little bit of... |
we really don't have that either.
Although I think I can tell a difference in, I lived in this area for about twenty-five years and I think I can tell a difference in the comfort level, uh, particularly in the summer. Uh, you know, when it gets hot, and you have, the, that kind of a pressure from the pockets of air, uh... |
I, I like the adventure of it. And the idea that, that we would survive long enough to get to that point and be able to do these fantastic things in space.
Uh-huh
Uh-huh.
And then I like the,
they have a new one now.
The STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION. Which it's an all new cast, but kind of the same idea, going out to ... |
but he's always going out and inventing new things out of scrap, and grabbing what he can and, you know, pieces of baling wire and, and a few tires and all of a sudden he's got a hang glider
and
I don't think I, I've even heard of that show.
You haven't?
It's called MCGYVER?
Uh-huh.
And what is, what is he?
He's like a... |
Uh-huh.
But, unfortunately I find getting rid of your T V set, you do throw out some, some of the baby, with the bath water.
Some of the little things,
yeah.
And uh, I just decided I had to do that. I think, in part because it was easy for me to become addicted to it,
I mean I could just sit mindlessly in front of a T ... |
and one of my other favorite shows is SESAME STREET because of the kids.
I like that real well.
Right,
well, when my kids were little, I did have a T V set
and I did watch a lot of SESAME STREET and a lot of ELECTRIC COMPANY, as well.
I don't think they have that on anymore.
Well that would be a shame.
I haven't seen t... |
Yes.
Yeah.
They still show MISTER ROGERS.
I don't think he's making new ones,
but they repeat all the old ones.
I see.
I see.
So that's still a real good show too.
I,
that one tends to come on earlier in the day than I want to turn the T V on
Uh-huh.
SESAME STREET comes on from like nine to ten, which is a good time
an... |
So they like that.
Yeah,
I seem to remember those shows being on in the afternoon.
They come on both.
They come on like from nine to ten and then from, uh, five to six.
Uh-huh,
okay.
They just repeat over again. Which is also,
Okay.
that's another thing that's good about it,
when it comes on right in the dinner hour. I... |
Uh, it didn't hurt them any.
Yeah.
Some shows are good for,
I think some shows, some,
STAR TREK, I,
for the imagination of it all.
The idea, I, I think that's one of the things I like about STAR TREK.
Uh-huh.
And is, is the,
even in for kids watching some of it can be a little violent sometimes and stuff.
I don't let m... |
That's MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.
Uh, MISSION,
that's right,
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.
Yeah,
I used to watch that.
In fact, I can still remember a couple of those.
They were,
I thought those were very good.
Yeah,
they always have,
I've, I've seen some of them on repeats.
Yeah.
That uh,
they always had a good plot.
Huh.
It kind of k... |
How they're going get out of their latest scrape.
Yeah,
I do remember that.
And, uh, I remember as a kid my parents watching the ED SULLIVAN Show.
That was really the big deal in our household, was the ED SULLIVAN SHOW.
Oh, yeah,
every Saturday night?
Yeah,
I I guess it was a Saturday night,
and I went to see the movie... |
I'm not old enough to recall that one
well I guess, I have to admit that I am
My T V viewing started sort of mid-sixties,
so.
I see.
My folks didn't, my folks,
I'm not even sure if we had one when I was really little.
That may be why,
they probably didn't have a T V until I got to be, you know, grade school or so.
Yeah... |
Yeah.
But I guess that's, that's a different topic
isn't it?
Probably so
Well, I think that's about, uh, that's about covered it for me,
so I think I'll say good-bye
and we'll talk another time perhaps
Yeah.
Well, it was nice talking to you.
Tell me, tell me where you're calling from.
I'm calling from Garland, Texas.
G... |
I think they're doing it, trying to do it, or I hope they're trying to do it all over the country, because they need to collect all kinds of different different dialects.
Yes.
Well, it was nice talking to you
Same here.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Uh, the last movie that I saw,
I, I don't go to that many
so I'll just have to tal... |
Uh-huh.
He is one of the best actors I've ever seen.
It's,
there's a point where,
the, uh, the show is about these, uh, catatonic type people that,
this doctor discovers a drug that brings them back to the, the living, more or less,
but it wears off.
Uh-huh.
And the way it wears off is he goes through all these spastic... |
Oh how does he do serious.
He's good,
he's, he's talented,
boy, he is.
I've only seen him in funny stuff
and so.
I know,
me too.
But, uh, well, what was that show, um, uh,
I want to say Garfield
but that wasn't it.
Yeah,
uh, GARP, THE WORLD ACCORDING TO GARP.
Yeah,
THE WORLD ACCORDING TO GARP.
He wasn't always funny in... |
That's why I was thinking it couldn't be just a totally funny part
Yeah,
in fact, it got some pretty serious deep parts in it
so.
Yeah,
right.
Yeah.
Well what have you seen?
I think the last movie that we went out to see was DANCES WITH WOLVES.
Oh, I saw it.
Good,
we've both seen one
Did you cry through it?
Yes,
the wh... |
when I, each time that I thought that the Indians were going to get killed, I cried.
Uh-huh.
Um, I cried the first time when the, um, the wagon man got killed, when they attacked him.
Uh-huh,
yeah,
yeah.
And, uh, I think from there on, all the way through the movie.
Let's see what else did it. Um, what other parts.
I c... |
Unfortunately we don't have any animals,
so, uh.
Yeah.
It was a beautiful story,
it really was.
It,
there was a lot of pretty scenery, too, in that movie.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
What did you think about the buffalo scenes.
Oh, I thought it was awful, and so graphic,
That was,
Yeah.
I mean I hadn't even imagined it, you know.
... |
yeah,
it's not,
But she, we were both feeling so guilty about enjoying this chili after seeing that.
Uh-huh,
well at least you know that it wasn't same situation that the buffalo died in.
No
it wasn't
Um, I thought the scenes when the buffalos running, though, were beautiful,
like that was great.
Oh, yeah.
And there we... |
I know.
I guess they graze, though,
that wouldn't be a problem.
Yeah,
yeah.
Uh, have you seen any of the behind the scenes, uh, of, of that movie.
No,
huh-uh.
It was,
they tried to keep it, you know, as very close to real.
Uh-huh.
I mean like Kevin Costner did all of his own scenes
and, uh, they had to teach a wolf how... |
I could bring them in with my dogs and set a siren off
and that's all they'd have to do
Yeah.
Well that's funny.
Well, I think we've made it.
Oh is that five minutes,
is that,
I don't know,
is it five or three.
Okay, oh,
I'm not sure.
I'm not either.
Okay,
well I think we're, we're, we've done okay, though.
Okay,
me to... |
you too.
Bye, bye.
Bye, bye.
Okay.
Okay.
I was trying to get my children quiet for a minute.
Okay. Yes,
a deep Well, credit cards, boy, that's an easy topic,
isn't it
it is
It's one we all hold dear and near, I'm sure.
Oh, yes,
yes.
I guess I've had some good experience and some bad experience with them.
Yeah,
most of ... |
Well, I do fairly good until I go in the store and I see something I want You know not need, want.
Yeah.
Uh-huh,
there is a big difference
There's a big difference there.
Yeah,
yeah.
But most of mine that I use is strictly gasoline.
Yeah,
oh yeah,
I, I do that,
I do that,
but the rest, like I said, the rest of them I'v... |
yeah.
Yeah.
So.
But yeah,
I've, I've talked to some who's really had some bad experience
and kind of knock on wood I haven't yet, not bad.
Yeah,
well that's,
You know, I just, I'm just shocked at the end of the month, to see what damage I have did,
but I try to keep it pretty reasonable.
Yeah,
yeah.
Well, I've been pre... |
yeah.
And then they have bad drawbacks, too. I mean high interest,
Yeah.
It's, it's awfully easy.
it's like paying twice.
That's true,
that's true,
Yes,
so, .
I try to,
I did switch to one, uh, sponsored by the credit union, though. That seems to be a pretty low interest. Yeah, compared to some of the other ones.
Oh, ... |
and that way we can go ahead and pay it off when it comes in.
Yeah,
that's one way to do it, because that, that forces you to pay for it instead of saying, well, I'll just pay on it this month
Yeah.
Pay fifteen,
yeah.
and
Yes,
I know,
yeah.
Yeah.
And when you pay fifteen dollars a month it sure takes a long time.
Takes... |
Uh-huh,
yeah.
So.
Well, I've enjoyed talking to you.
Well, I've enjoyed talking to you.
And maybe we'll get to talk again.
Okay.
Okay,
bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Okay,
well, I can tell you pretty much my two favorite shows
Okay.
and they kind of are in different spectrums, I think. Um,
one of them is QUANTUM LEAP
Okay.
and the ... |
but, uh, mostly it's, it's kind of science fiction,
and, it's, um, it's adventure and things like that
Uh-huh.
and then NIGHT COURT is just pure, you know, weird fun, you know,
just, it's, it's nothing serious about it at all.
So, I don't know why the two of them happen, to be my two favorite shows,
but they, that's th... |
that's right,
I mean,
I, I just,
it's,
I find him degrading at times.
I guess that is the point,
but sometimes it just,
Well, they, they really have changed him though.
If, If you've watched it this season, um, he's becoming, I mean, he still is in his own way degrading and everything,
but, uh, he's involved in that ch... |
I think so,
which in QUANTUM LEAP you get
even though the person is involved in so many other people's lives, you still see a, a real person in those situations.
He gets, um, he's doing amazing things
Uh-huh.
but he's doing them within the bounds of what a normal person would do
Right,
right,
that's a good point,
and I... |
Yeah,
I can't remember what her name is,
but is,
yeah,
I didn't enjoy her.
I, I,
she was too much of a opposite of Dede,
and I think that's what they try to do,
but I think we wanted to see Dede there or somebody like her.
Uh-huh.
Well, but, see I read an article about, in T V GUIDE about, uh, about HUNTER, and about h... |
They didn't.
I mean, they were never partners.
Yeah,
she would go her way,
and he would do his,
Yeah.
and I think that's what I didn't like.
And, and, and even, even at the beginning Dede and, and Hunter would decide that one of them would go do this, while the other one would do, would go this,
but, uh, it seemed like... |
Yeah,
I think most shows were doing that,
and then they went away from it
Uh-huh.
and now they're starting to go back to it,
and maybe that's what the public wants,
I don't know,
but I just, I like the, the cut and dry solve the mystery,
and that's what I always enjoyed about it.
Yeah,
well, see, there was that spark b... |
and you see these two people together,
and you always wonder, why they don't, you know, get together or whatever.
Yeah.
And so I guess that's what they decide to do
Just go ahead and quit the wondering
Yeah.
and, and,
But it's, it's always been a formula, uh, for T V that the minute that two people, that the two main s... |
but I heard that's what killed it
Uh-huh,
same thing.
that, uh, interplay died when they got married,
and so the show died.
Yeah,
the,
it seems like you can do so much more of the subtle hints and the subtle little plays on things before they, they, before they get married you know,
Uh-huh.
the minute they get married,... |
Yeah.
It made no sense.
I, I'm guess it's falling back into our traditional stereotype which a lot of shows
Unfortunately, that's probably true.
yeah,
which kind of,
like in the big soap opera shows, which I don't enjoy because of that,
but,
Well, do you you watch, um, what is that show, WHO'S THE BOSS?
That's, uh, tha... |
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