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Well one,
it cuts down on my mow time anyway
Uh-huh,
that's true.
and you zip through it quicker.
That's true.
That's true.
Well, I, I really think you're going to get hooked on plastics and paper before you know it.
we probably will.
It's, it's really not that much trouble.
We keep a large plastic, uh, just a, you kno... |
and they said something about how you don't realize even just your small contribution, it seems like a small contribution
but it's not.
If everyone were to recycle just their newspapers, they would save thousands and thousands of trees a day. A day, just from not throwing out your newspapers.
Really.
And, uh, when you ... |
if everybody would do just a little bit it would make a big difference.
It would make a huge impact.
So, I'm excited about the recycling program in Plano
I, I, can't wait for them to get it started. Um, because it'll be that much easier for us,
you know, like I said, now we have to take it over to, to Wal-Mart.
It woul... |
and, and I guess they do the sorting.
But, um, they'll do the aluminum cans too
but we don't give them those
Right.
Right.
The kids keep those
So,
So you're doing that now?
You're doing the newspapers and the glass?
Uh-huh.
Well we don't, we don't take the newspaper to begin with. When, neither one of us are home to ... |
and I'd say,
it's just such an automatic reaction.
And now we think before we throw anything away.
It is.
I mean, it's really funny.
We, we really,
once you get into the habit of it, it's okay,
it's just, it's just making it a habit that's hard
Oh, I know.
Well the kids have even got to the point where they, if they s... |
Yeah,
yeah,
So,
yeah.
Oh, that's a lot of fun.
Yeah.
That's a lot of fun.
Well, that's great.
Well I'm to hear you're, doing that.
I,
my sister was here recently from Connecticut
and they have a deposit on all their bottles and cans.
Oh really?
Okay. Um,
Where do you live?
In Plano.
In Plano?
Yes.
Where do you live?
In... |
Oh, okay
Uh, the air pollution isn't too bad in our area.
So, we're very fortunate but I know in some areas, it's really, it, it really is bad.
Huh
Um, I was trying to think, uh,
something we were watching the other day
and they were doing an overview of Los Angeles, uh, from an area that was up higher
and you literall... |
I think it's a bigger problem. With the car pollution, anti-pollution devices,
I think, uh, air isn't as bad it once was, from the cars, because we certainly have plenty of cars in our area.
Yes.
Well, I know, uh, that's been the concern in Europe.
They hadn't,
uh, we have friends in Germany and, uh, have family that l... |
Yes.
Yeah.
What's interesting, several years ago, I took a course, uh, on, uh, well,
it was actually, it was put on by the power companies and, about the various sources of energy and how much pollution there was,
and there wasn't from various kinds of, of energy.
And, uh, at that point in time, one person that was a s... |
and they recycle the fuel
and then instead of, of,
some people are really afraid to recycle the fuel because they're afraid it could become, uh, bomb quality.
But, that's the only sensible thing to do, is recycle and reuse the fuel and not store it down in the ground. As far as I'm concerned, where it could eventually,... |
It must just, be on the line.
Can you hear me?
Now I can again.
Okay.
I don't know what, uh, I, I don't know what the problem is
but, uh, when we lived in Houston we had a solar water heater
and we had thought this part of the country would be ideal for solar homes and solar energy
and we have enough clouds that, uh, ... |
Yes.
It may not in all ways.
Maybe they'll come up with fusion. You know, be able to control it.
I don't know how long that'll take,
but, one of these days,
because that's perfectly clean.
Yes.
It's just we can't control it.
Right now it takes more energy to cause fusion to occur then you get out,
so, it isn't, not at ... |
We have one earth, to live on
Yes
and we got to take care of it.
Yes.
Well, and, and for the future generations, too. Uh,
Uh-huh.
I've noticed students are, are much more, you know, young, young people are much more receptive to ideas about the environment and protecting the earth.
Yes.
And so, if we can raise it, uh... |
Well, it's,
I am pretty much against it
Really?
Yeah.
How about you?
Oh, I'm pretty much for it.
Oh, good
we can have a debate.
We'll have some interesting discussion, I guess.
Well, like, um, I don't know,
I think that I,
one of the reasons that I'm against it is that, uh, um, I'm afraid of someone losing their life, ... |
Yeah,
it would never be equal,
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
How about you?
Well, I guess, you know, I, I guess I can see it from several different perspectives,
but, you know when I hear about things like, you know, what they've, what they've been reporting about in Milwaukee, you know I, I, to me I don't see any way of rehabil... |
Well you know that's true, because um a lot of um these conversations I've had on this program this these telephone conversations have revolved around um criminal you know justice.
Oh, really.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Or whatever
and most of the time I hear myself saying well you know we don't have enough room left in the jail... |
If it's no one that I know then you have to think about the taxpayers paying the shelter and feed and clothe them for the rest of their life.
Right.
Right.
And trying to rehabilitate him, too,
and, you know,
Letting him out again
Right,
exactly.
And, uh, you know, nobody wants that.
Uh-huh.
You know, everybody would be... |
and that was one of the questions
but, uh, I do know that they are notorious for paroling people.
Oh, really?
Yeah,
when they're, when,
and then having them reconvicted for violent crimes.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
And, I guess, they said, you know, do you think it should be restricted?
I guess, if it were, if, if,
because a lot o... |
I mean, it,
he pretty much confessed to it.
I mean, they, you know,
just everything, I mean, cannibalism and everything else, uh,
Yeah.
Hang?
Because, I mean, that's just awful.
And what is he going to do prison to the other people
Right.
Well, I have a I have a hunch that, you know, the other prisoners aren't going to... |
There's,
it, it's just like being outside.
You know, people find ways around.
Really.
And there's a power structure that you have bow to
and, and, it really isn't, for some people who have been there for over, and over, and over, it really isn't, uh, as bad.
I mean, there's,
it's not that bad of a life as it should be... |
Right.
And, it, it's, it's really scary
I you know,
I, I don't know what the perfect solution to that is
but I know that especially with violent crimes where, you know, you're nearly a hundred percent convinced that they're guilty and without much repentance or anything else, you know, then, I don't know, I, I guess, I... |
I, I struggle with it,
but I, I really think that in, in terms of like this, I'd, I think that it, it might not be such a bad thing. Because, I don't know that anybody, I don't know that anybody would feel good, you know, like if you let someone like that loose in your community.
You know, I, I, I'm
you'd have to be sc... |
and, uh, I read GOOD HOUSEKEEPING and BETTER HOMES and MCCALL'S.
And I like them because they're kind of short and to the subject.
Right.
I I used to take MCCALL'S and GOOD HOUSEKEEPING and, uh, several magazines like that a few years ago at, at, at home.
Uh-huh.
And then you stopped them all.
But, yeah,
the subscripti... |
Uh-huh.
Right.
And I get into, uh, newspapers,
so I guess that kind of tells you what kind of person I am.
I'm, read it fast and put it down
Right.
Uh-huh.
When, when I had my magazines at home, I would find that I kind of skimmed through them and looked at the pictures, you know,
and if something caught my eye, then I... |
And then every so often you weed through them
and you think, where did I ever put that recipe.
Right.
But, uh, that's mainly my, uh, whole idea on you know, short subject, uh, reading and things like this.
Uh-huh.
I, I subscribe, like I said, to a few
and once in a while I buy that new magazine called FIRST on the news... |
I can just dump them at the other end
and I don't have to carry them back with me.
That's right.
I do that when we travel.
I always have my head with a magazine somewhere as we drive or wherever we,
Uh-huh.
no matter what it is, air travel or anything and I,
Uh-huh.
Right.
If I, if I go on an airplane ride or something... |
and it was just above my head without having someone there to give me the advice as I went along.
Uh-huh.
It was, you know, kind of a little bit more than what I needed,
so I never did get into them.
I when I bought the computer, all of a sudden I was receiving them, for some unknown reason, through the mail.
I think t... |
Do you have any hobbies?
Yes,
I do.
What are yours?
China painting and ceramics.
Ooh, how great.
I enjoy it.
Uh-huh
Oh, uh, ceramic painting.
I enjoy the china more.
The china more.
And now that I have my eyes, corrected to the point that I can see the delicate part of china painting, I do enjoy it.
How did you ever ge... |
And I said I'll do it for three months
and if I don't like it, that's it.
Well, I painted an awful lot until his death, which was several years.
And it has just been the most relaxing, enjoyable self-satisfying thing I've had.
I,
Now, do you do it just for yourself,
or do you do it to give as gifts,
or do you actually ... |
I,
It's a great hobby,
but don't retire
Don't retire.
Oh,
Well, see, I don't,
I never, uh, returned to work for the
I have stayed home for about the last nine years.
Oh, have, well,
We've transferred around,
and our last area was in a rural section right on the lake, uh, on Lake Erie.
So the lake life appealed to me,
a... |
Oh, uh-huh.
But, uh, just when I thought I really enjoyed my hobby, yours sounds great
Well, my sister is the seamstress of the two of us.
And, but she doesn't china paint
so we both have our expertise side.
That is excellent.
What part of Ohio are you in?
We're in the I'm in the suburb of Cleveland
and I'm about, uh, ... |
Right,
where you're getting into the delicate work.
That's right.
Now, do you, where did you first get your lessons from?
In Abilene, Texas.
Through a, uh, an adult ed, or strictly a china type,
She just taught china painting.
Uh-huh,
and,
Oh, how marvelous.
Then, then we had so much fun there,
I had a friend from Alba... |
I have been a little bit negligent about it because I was so tired when I had to go to work after my husband's death.
So I have put it aside for a little while,
but I'm, I have just found me an instructor to get started again,
uh-huh.
Oh, isn't that great.
And you'll probably really, uh, regain your enthusiasm for it o... |
I think the women for the most part end up managing the money.
My husband always says he earns it, and I have to spend only what he earns
It,
I don't mind the spending,
it's just that trying to, trying to get what you need out of, out of what you have.
That seems to be our challenge.
Well, I don't work outside of the h... |
and then the rest of it just goes for normal weekly needs.
Well, that's pretty much the way we do, um, or we did in the past,
I would say. Uh,
at this point our children are grown,
and so I really don't have the obligations there any more that we have to balance to you know, get things together for them,
Yeah.
Right.
a... |
but we make sure that we just do not buy unless we really can see how we're going to pay for it ahead
Right.
and we do not buy us, new cars.
Uh, do you get into car,
Well, we had new cars, um, always until about four years ago,
my husband, um, owned his own company and it went under,
and so we could no longer afford th... |
and we were, kept saying, wouldn't it be great if we could find another one just like it.
Believe it or not, we did, we found one, one newer
Oh, no,
the worst part is, it's the same color
Uh-huh.
and so everybody's saying, you're kidding, you have two cars the same,
and I said, you know how when you have a bad one, you... |
Right.
Right.
you know, we were going up to a larger one,
but we have found that by trading in and going through a dealer, and we always make a deal.
I mean, we have walked out of more dealerships saying, don't bring us the manager, and all of that unless you want to bring him right away.
You're going to get one shot a... |
Oh, are you?
Uh-huh.
What school are you going to?
N C State.
Oh. Are you enjoying it?
Um, well, it's a lot of work
Are you working on your, um Bachelor's degree?
My Bachelor's.
Uh-huh.
And what field of study are you in?
Um, it's actually in computer science
Uh-huh.
and I have a special interest in Voice I O.
Oh, well... |
Oh, um, the service.
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
Well, that was one of the things I was thinking about in school, um,
I went to Texas Tech out in Lubbock and, uh, I had a friend, my roommate went to Tech also,
Uh-huh.
but she was from New Mexico
Uh-huh.
and she had to pay out of state tuition
Ooh.
and I think that would have, uh,... |
Yeah,
luckily I've paid in state tuition the whole time.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah,
so I think that would be one thing I would definitely consider try to find a school within the state that, um, I liked well enough to attend.
Uh-huh, um,
Uh-huh.
The second thing is some colleges only offer the, uh, liberal arts and, uh, wh... |
Oh, really.
and, yeah,
it was so nice
Um.
it paid most of my tuition, and, um, a lot of the book costs and that kind of thing
so.
Wow, that's great.
Yeah,
I really,
Was it a Pell grant?
I'm sorry, what did you say?
What kind of grant was it?
Well, it was called a B E O G, a Basic Equal Opportunity Grant
Uh-huh.
and it ... |
but then after that, I was on my own, working and, you know, trying to go to school on my own.
So then I got a real big grant, because the amount of money I was making really didn't compare
Wow.
Uh-huh.
So, it was kind of nice.
Um.
I don't know if those are still available or not,
but,
Uh, I'm not quite,
there's, there... |
Yeah,
it was really nice.
Oh, another thing.
I've got a, I've got a degree from another college
Uh-huh.
and, uh, something that might play a part is the size of the college.
Right.
Uh, the smaller schools can give you a lot, uh, a lot more specialized instruction and attention than the larger schools
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
in t... |
Um. Well, I guess the only comparison I had ever heard was between a, a Christian college, because I thought about attending Abilene Christian instead of Texas Tech
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and of course the price was just astronomical compared to Tech
Um.
the Christian college was so much more expensive.
But I guess some of th... |
Right.
and, uh
Yeah.
yeah,
it's really a bad situation here.
Oh, that's a shame.
Well, I, I felt a little cheated at Tech, also.
Once I got into my,
I, um, majored in,
What, what do you feel is the, the major change that's been going on?
That's a tough question.
We are now able to work full eight hours a day and still ... |
so I can appreciate it.
You don't, well
I'm, I'm still home with, with my last one,
and I wouldn't trade, change a minute of it for anything
Oh, good for you,
good for you.
But, I, I can't, I can't help but think that eventually the pendulum's going to swing back the other way again.
Well, you know, it's interesting, b... |
and nobody would give her credit for being home and raising them.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
I, I think too many people feel they need to live a more extravagant life-style than necessary
That's true.
uh, you know, to,
I, I don't think, you know, the kids don't benefit from the bigger house and the fancier cars, and, and, and this ... |
What, what grade do you teach?
Six, seven and eight.
Six, seven and eight.
I've got a uh,
where do you live?
Are you out,
In Richardson.
In Richardson,
we're in Plano here.
Oh, okay.
I have a daughter in middle school,
and, uh, I know there aren't very many,
she has a few friends that have moms who are still at home,
b... |
And the school allows that?
Well, he stays with me
Uh-huh.
and I have a tendency to work late.
I work until six
Uh-huh.
so he stays with me until five thirty and then goes home
Oh, my,
and, you know, I have lots of kids, because they know I'm there late
Uh-huh.
I'm a slow mover to say the least,
but, um, they'll come i... |
I,
and just the social values,
Well, I've just,
do you, do you feel it will swing back the other way,
or do you feel there's just going to be a big push to, uh you know, for, for more, more and more day care type situations?
I, I don't know.
I, I have a feeling we're going to go more and more,
I've got a twenty-one yea... |
and we lived without them,
we did fine,
Okay.
I've got a, you know,
I have a real good method of starting to get the budget balancing
and then that's get half of the government, rid of the half of the government payroll.
I think that would probably, uh, be very possible,
and, and we really wouldn't feel it in our servi... |
I find that a total waste and part of the defense budget.
Uh, again being just a voter and a taxpayer, you know, working through our congressman, I don't think there's too much that I'm going to be able to do about it,
but I believe in taking an active part in politics,
so.
Yeah.
Well, I,
one, one thing that really bot... |
and then the Taft-Rudman Act is supposed to help that.
The biggest part is they have no accountability for what they're doing.
Yeah.
I mean this nonsense that's coming through now about, uh, uh, lowering payments on Social Security and a few other things that Bush has in mind in order to boost the economy because peopl... |
that's the way they're thinking these days anyway.
It seems, seems to be.
I, you know, I,
it really does bother me when I think about, you know, leaving our children with, with this sort of, uh, a national problem that we can't seem to find an, an answer to it, uh,
I don't know.
I, I don't think it ever will really.
I,... |
but I, I don't know.
Yeah.
Bite the bullet.
It sounds like you have a baby there.
Yeah.
I, I do.
Uh-huh.
She's a,
we're not feeling too well over here
so that,
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, that's a shame.
She's not the one going to Washington, huh?
No,
no.
She's,
Oh
I don't think I could part with her.
Okay.
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Okay, Geri.
We've probably been on long enough.
Okay.
They didn't cut us off,
but I think that will probably do it
so it was nice talking to you.
Okay,
well, thanks.
Okey-doke.
Bye-bye
Bye-bye.
What's your favorite T V show?
Oh. You know, I used to like ST. ELSEWHERE.
Uh-huh.
That's one of my old favorites.
Um, and tha... |
oh, yes,
my daughter says NINE OH TWO ONE OH.
We like that one.
Yeah,
that's one of my favorites.
Good,
and how old are you?
I'm twenty-eight.
Oh, so you're little bit younger than I am,
but yeah,
I think if my seventeen year old, my fourteen year old, my other two children like it,
I'm over forty,
and I like it.
I thi... |
but that's one that, that we watch.
And then Sunday nights we watch, uh, LIFE GOES ON.
Yeah,
I like that,
that's, that's a good show, too.
Very good.
Did you see the one on Sunday?
Yes,
it was a, uh, uh
I did miss that Sunday,
no
I didn't.
That one kid that Becca likes he has AIDS.
Yeah,
it's a good episode.
Yeah,
the,... |
What time is it there?
Uh, it is twenty minutes to nine.
Oh, my gosh.
See, I'm twenty minutes to six here
Three hours difference.
Yeah,
yeah.
Okay.
What else do you like?
Uh, let's see, I like a lot of different shows.
Let's see, um, I like MURDER, SHE WROTE.
That's, that's,
Oh, I never, I never watched that ever in my... |
Talk to my daughter.
Um, um,
ALL MY CHILDREN,
I've watched that for about twelve years.
Yeah,
I've, I'm sure I watched it for more than that probably.
Twenty something.
I used to watch GENERAL HOSPITAL when I was a teenager because I,
I quit watching GENERAL HOSPITAL when Leslie got killed.
Oh.
So that was a long time ... |
I just,
I like the people on it, I guess, you know.
I, I, I like it.
I just wish they'd bring some of the old characters back.
Yeah,
well, Tad's going to come back, I bet, do you think?
Yeah,
I'm sure he will.
He'll come back, show up at just the right moment.
I kind of wish that, uh, Nina would come back because she b... |
he's out for good.
Did they marry?
Uh
Nina and Cliff?
that's how they left the show, but not in real life.
Um.
Now she's married to some guy in New York,
and she's happily married
and that's the reason she left the show.
I guess she wanted a private life.
Oh, okay,
oh, see I, I, I watch it maybe twice a month,
so, I do... |
Yeah.
I use to be, I used to be like that
I'm that way about a lot of different shows.
I'm that way about MURPHY BROWN, DESIGNING WOMEN.
Now isn't DESIGNING WOMEN, don't they have a new chick on there instead of the, instead of what's her name?
Uh, yeah,
there's two new characters on there.
There's, um, uh, Jan Hooks f... |
Charlene was Delta Burke?
Charlene was Jean Smart, the blond headed.
Oh, okay,
well, see, I never watch that one either.
I really don't watch a whole lot of T V, just, you know, on Sunday nights,
LIFE GOES ON comes on about the time that we eat dinner,
and my whole family's home, because I don't allow the kids out on S... |
It,
be sure to watch it tomorrow night because somebody's getting killed on it.
Uh-huh.
I know.
The kids already know who it is,
I don't know who it is, though,
Who is it?
Ask them
Let me ask Nicole.
to someone in Nicole.
What?
Do you want to start?
Uh, you hit, you hit, uh,
it doesn't matter.
Um, we're discussing the ... |
I am, am pro capital punishment except that I don't like the way it's done.
Uh-huh.
Uh, yeah,
uh, I, uh, I guess, I, I hate to see anyone die, uh
Uh-huh.
but, uh, I guess these people that go around and, and kill children and women and everything else without any remorse, uh, I don't think they deserve to, to live and ... |
and it was going to happen to you.
Yeah.
No stays of execution.
No, no loopholes,
no,
Well, and even, even that I don't really know if that would help.
I think a lot of these people do it, uh, mainly because of, of T V
and,
Notoriety.
the double reason they, they see it being done on T V and also the fact of, of notori... |
that, that, that's a reward uh, for a heinous crime rather than, uh, having them pay the penalty which is forfeiture of their life.
Yeah.
Right.
In, in complete, uh,
of any notoriety.
Yeah.
Well, I, I, I think if they went according to, uh, the BIBLE where it does say, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for... |
Not, not, not if he's killed he can't, do it again.
It,
Oh, ,
well, that's correct,
yes.
if, if he indeed receives the death penalty and it is, it is executed.
The death penalty.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
But, but the, the, the chances are not great that that will happen.
Right.
But there's a greater chance that he'll be back out ... |
That's right.
Just for pleasure too
and I guess you've got to look at something like that.
Yes.
Do they deserve to, uh, remain on this earth too?
Why, you know, you could carry it to that if, uh, if they are a repeat offender
and, and you know that as soon as you let them out on the streets they are going to do this.
U... |
and I sort of wondered what your, what thoughts you had on that area.
The, the first one is we need people in there that, that understand, uh, numbers. The numbers that are being thrown around when, when we're talking in trillions of dollars. Uh, which is an astronomical sum
Uh-huh.
and, and the people that are talking... |
Well
Sometimes called the dismal science.
Yeah.
But, but people that, that know the value of a dollar that understand the value of a dollar,
Uh-huh.
Yes.
um, and
in, in, in
the, the, uh, lobbyists, needs them to be eliminated, uh, from Congress. Um,
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
They don't make pragmatic decisions.
They make ... |
Oh, I, I definitely would.
Yeah.
Get rid of them.
Totally. Uh,
No causes that you think the lobbyists would be good for?
I, I think that any company or anything that wants to contribute to a fund should be able to do that, and be registered with what they ever contribute.
Uh-huh.
But they should not have a one-on-one r... |
Uh, I, I forget the figures on the interest rate
but it's something like, uh, hundreds of thousands of dollars a second in interest.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Part of the problem is we don't loan from ourselves.
We, we buy from intimate international banking.
That's why we have interest.
Uh-huh.
And, and I, I, I really feel that, ... |
everyone no matter what, pays a ten percent income tax.
Yep.
Sounds like a good idea.
Uh,
Nothing escapes, right?
No, no, deductions, nothing.
That's right.
Right.
No deductions.
Just ten percent.
You pay a ten percent income tax.
Yep.
That's what you pay
if you make forty million dollars, uh, then you're going to pa... |
I, I agree with that
that's a good idea
and is it your expectation that that would raise the total revenues collected or, or lower them or what?
I don't know that it would or wouldn't.
Well, what's your favorite baseball team, Rita?
Well, I suppose I'm supposed to say the Rangers, right
Is that what
is the million doll... |
I lived in Chicago.
How do you expect them to do this year?
Yeah
they did pretty well.
Okay.
What did you think of the World Series?
Well, I'll tell you.
I just, uh, moved down from South Dakota in July,
and, uh, in South Dakota, the Minnesota Twins are the closest professional sports team to where I was living
Uh-huh.... |
Yeah.
Oh, uh, and I was routing for the Twins myself because, uh, they, a couple of Ranger players that I had watched when we first moved here, uh, went to Minnesota,
and we used to tease about, my son
and I used to have a bet going about some of the players that had moved from here to Minnesota,
but it was it certainl... |
and they hit the long ball,
and it looks like wow, they really hit that ball.
But when you go to the ball park, it's really not all that far you know,
No.
and it's so much more exciting watching a ball come at you,
and.
Oh, isn't it though.
You know, but, oh, I, I think going to the ball park just really makes it. Beca... |
Right.
He'll be at least one more,
and he said he's been saying one more, and it's been two and three, might be two and three more.
He likes it.
That's right
Yeah.
and he's still doing great still doing excellent.
That's right.
You know, and he said, I get a kick out of it, you know,
he's, he's such a nice man.
Well, d... |
like, uh, Ivan Rodriguez wasn't even born when, when, uh, Nolan Ryan started pitching.
That's right.
And it's just incredible to think that there's, uh, there are players who are the sons of ball players that used to play against Nolan or with Nolan, you know,
Uh-huh.
and now their sons are.
Oh, he's been a legend for ... |
his son pitched for U T
Well that is neat.
and, uh, only, uh, Ryan didn't want too much publicity on it because he didn't want his son getting too nervous about this whole thing.
Uh-huh.
A game is a game, you know.
Well, the Rangers really, uh, knocked the socks off of them, which you would expect you know, anyway,
Rig... |
so I am just hitting it right.
Uh, how do I feel about it?
I, I don't know.
Well, I guess it is right in certain cases. Uh,
Yeah.
well, the one I was just on, I don't,
I was an alternate on the case,
so I don't know what was decided.
Right.
They are probably still in deliberations on it.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, what I found o... |
the police drove up just as he fired the gun and killed the guy.
Oh, wow.
So he was caught
and, uh, it's interesting because the county I live in,
I'm not in Dallas county,
I'm, I'm pretty far north of Dallas.
Okay.
Uh, county I live in, in the past ten years only had two capital murders.
Wow.
And last year there were ... |
although, you know, it's not really revenge because it doesn't mean anything to him.
You know, he, he has no concept of what he has done.
Really?
He just, well,
from what I can tell. I mean, I didn't talk to the guy or anything,
but I mean, he doesn't seem to have any regard for anybody's life including his own.
Right.... |
the,
I was the, I think the ninety eighth person they'd interviewed.
You're kidding.
But, you know at the time when the guy kept saying could you ever convict someone
and do you think you'd ever know beyond a doubt
and I said I can't imagine,
I said if I knew beyond a doubt or if I felt beyond a doubt that he had done ... |
It was, it was really pretty interesting.
Wow.
What,
Educational.
I guess cases like that, I don't see why they wouldn't bring in the new evidence from the other case.
Well, they can't, they can, I think in the punishment phase but not in the guilt or innocence because he hasn't been, he hasn't been found guilty of it.... |
Uh, and in Texas there is, there is a couple of questions you have to ask, uh, in the punishment phase.
Uh, for example, was the guy provoked and was the response reasonable given the provocation
And there is a number of questions
and just depending on whether you say yes or no, uh, you, you can give him capital punish... |
so,
That's true.
But what is it worth?
I don't know.
Uh-huh.
Personally I don't know which I would pick if I had a choice for myself.
That's true.
I mean, I don't know whether I'd stay in prison or not
or,
Yeah,
so, you said you're from Mississippi?
Yes, ma'am.
And do they have the death penalty there?
Yes,
they do.
I,... |
Uh-huh.
It was like last like year they had forty-nine
so that's going up.
Uh-huh.
But, yeah,
they have a death penalty.
I hear of one every now and then.
Uh-huh.
And I visited the prison up here and, at Parchman
Uh-huh.
and I've been,
I haven't,
they won't let you on death row,
but they'll let you look down the hall.
... |
and it is kind of a weird feeling knowing you're sitting there saying, like, people have died here.
That's right.
But I guess, just going up there and seeing the surroundings and stuff, the people up there,
Well, uh, let's see,
what type of car do I want?
Well, I'd like to have a Corvette.
Oh, wow.
But my, uh, weekly w... |
My car is really old, too,
because, uh, I drive out of town a lot of the weekends
Uh-huh.
and, uh, I would like my next car to have good gas mileage.
Right.
And, uh, same here, uh,
you know, a nice car, American made
and, uh, you know, a, a nice car, but not too expensive,
because, uh, I couldn't afford like a brand ne... |
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
What kind of insurance do you have up there
or is it real high up there?
Uh, no
mine just got lowered because I just turned twenty-one
and, uh, I'm not sure really how much I pay.
I just,
my mom's helping me out, you know, because I'm a college, I'm in college
and, uh, so I just give her the ... |
Right,
yeah.
Right.
I don't plan on buying a car for many, many years
so,
Right,
yeah.
I have to make this one last as long as I can.
What's everybody drive up there?
Uh, in Kenosha?
I mean in Wisconsin, they drive them little four wheelers or four wheel drive
Oh, it just is,
or, do you all need four wheel drives up th... |
Really?
It all melted.
Yeah,
there is no snow at all.
We haven't had snow yet.
We usually only get like once a year or so.
Huh.
Kind of strange to you all, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah,
it is.
Because, how,
it's like seventy degrees here right now.
Oh, don't tell me that
Yep,
how, how cold is it there?
Well, actually, it's been war... |
and that's, that's really warm.
Huh.
Uh, and it's supposed to rain tomorrow
so we,
I've only seen snow once this year.
And it was really bad
and then it all melted like within the week.
Really?
And now there is no snow,
so,
Huh.
But, um, so what, what is your dream car?
Uh, I haven't really thought about it.
I'm not to... |
Probably blue. Like if it, you know, was just an average, middle class car.
Blue?
But if I were to get a sports car, maybe white or red
Right
right.
Yeah.
So, what kind of car do you drive right now?
Uh, it's a Sky Hawk Buick.
Really?
Eighty-three,
I think.
Really?
Yeah,
uh, like eighty-two thousand miles.
Really?
Yeah... |
It's a two door.
I like, I like smaller cars.
They're,
I find them more comfortable to drive.
Right,
does everybody have their windows tinted up there?
Uh, no,
I don't see too many cars tinted.
Everybody has tinted down here.
Oh, I'm sure,
yeah.
I could, I could see why.
So, you been down here before?
Yep.
Really?
Uh,
... |
Yeah,
It was nice.
I remember, uh, swimming on Easter day
and it was like really cold up here,
but came back with a little tan,
Right
so that was nice
It's like, you know,
everybody freaks out when it
Hi,
well, I guess,
which one have you got right now?
Or,
Well, I, uh,
couple of them,
I, at the moment, use an A S T tw... |
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