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but I've never actually seen the place itself, you, know.
Yeah.
It's pretty, set far back, off the road.
Right.
Right.
It
and that's something I like, too,
Yeah.
because a lot of those places are like, you know the one over here on seventy-eight, Skaggs.
Definitely.
Uh-huh.
That little Kinder Care, whatever it is?
Yeah.
You know, it's right there on,
which this is on a highway, too.
But it's set back, enough to,
Right.
Yeah.
There's a difference.
I'm scared, I would be scared to death my child might accidentally get out,
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or or, if that seems like a real accessible place to where you could, you know, go, in and get one.
Uh-huh.
Yep.
That's right.
Or, you know, or a car accident.
Yeah.
And, that was one of the places I had checked out.
Yeah.
And it was, it, it was brand new when I checked it out
and, of course, it was beautiful and, clean and smelled wonderful in there,
Yeah.
but, you know, I, that,
I didn't base everything on that.
No,
because that all wears off.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
You get some kids in there
and it's, over quick.
Yep.
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But, um, I've been real pleased, knock on wood.
I'm scared to death her going to public school.
Really?
I don't know,
I,
I do know why because you know, drugs and, everything else
I would be, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
and, they talk about how soon they start that
Yeah.
and that scares me.
I know.
It is scary.
I mean, you're just with them,
Do they teach them in school right now where she's at about drugs?
Yeah.
They've, um, they've had police officers come in and talk to them about it.
Good.
But, of course, they still have no concept of, what in the world drugs are, you, know
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Right.
Right.
but,
And what to do when they're faced with it.
Right.
But I just think of her, you know,
next year she's going to be five, six years old in kindergarten, in same school with, you know, uh, I guess ten year olds.
Isn't that, six, sixth, sixth grade, you know,
Yeah.
and that's a big gap.
It is.
And that's, uh, that, I can honestly see the peer pressure there.
Uh-huh.
And that, just, terrifies me to death. And stuff,
Oh, I can, see it, too.
those kids getting snatched
and I'm, I'm probably a little too over protective
Uh-huh.
but, Well, nowadays you have to be.
Nothing wrong with that
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Yes.
You do.
If,
I don't, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
So, I at first thought, you know, when I didn't have kids,
I was going, God, how can you be so protective beginning with You, know
Uh-huh
but, it's easy now
Uh-huh.
Now you understand
Yeah.
Definitely.
That's what I'm thinking what your mom and dad always used to say, when you have kids of your own, you'll understand
That's exactly right
and I do.
Uh-huh.
But anyway.
Well, are you ever, are you, are you, are you married
Yes.
Are y'all planning on having kids?
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Or,
Well, that's good.
Yeah.
Because they're really neat.
It's just.
Do you live in Plano or work in Plano, or both?
Both.
Both,
are you a T I
Yes.
Are you at work right now?
Uh-huh.
So am I.
In building, which building?
Well, are you Summit or are you, uh, Spring Creek?
I'm, I'm, I'm Spring Creek.
Oh this is fun.
What building are you in?
I'm building, uh, one.
Oh, I'm building two.
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At least we found something different
That's,
I've never had a call,
Not like that.
Neither have I.
No,
isn't that funny?
I usually get some place,
I got a woman in New Jersey the last time I called, I think.
Right.
That's funny.
That is funny.
So,
So how's the how's the weather in building two?
The weather in building two is cold
it's been cold.
It's been cold in the building.
Outside the building it's not bad.
Typical T I, or T I,
listen I got me doing it.
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Typical Texas Spring.
Are you a native to Texas?
No,
no,
I'm, I'm a transplant.
From?
From California.
So what do you think of the Texas weather?
Not as nice as California
How long have you been here?
Oh, five years now.
Oh, okay.
I've been here long pretty long.
So.
You, you, you know about August then.
Yes,
oh, I've been through five of those
Okay,
there's no surprises left.
Right,
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right.
A lot of people try to leave the state for a couple of weeks in August, for, you know,
if they're going to go out of state for vacation that's the time to go.
Uh-huh.
Good idea.
Real good idea.
Yeah,
we went up to Wyoming this last, uh, Summer during that time.
And it was like you know, eighty degrees up there.
It was beautiful.
Nice to get out of Texas for a while.
We went to Alaska.
Well, that's, that's the even, even farther away.
That is really nice.
It is so cool, you wear a jacket, you know.
Even in the Summer time, huh.
Yeah,
or keep one handy. Because it's, it rains a lot in Alaska.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
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Is that right?
Uh, it,
they call it their liquid gold.
Um.
But it, you know,
you get sunshine,
and it's lovely,
and then it rains just enough to keep everything nice and moist and very green. And blooming.
Green.
Um.
Oh my goodness, it's pretty.
Right.
Well, Texas isn't bad.
No,
no.
Not in the Spring.
Right.
I have to think every year to try to remember what it was, what's it supposed to like this time of year.
Spring is nice.
Yeah.
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Because March we usually get a lot of rain, in March, you know.
It'll seem the news, the Harold Taft, you know, on the local news.
Right.
March we typically get a lot of rain,
and we've had this many inches,
and, you know, we're right on target, you know,
and just seem like we were getting a lot of rain in March,
but I
Oh, we always we always do though.
it's hard to remember twelve months ago what it was like.
Yeah
uh, it,
I wish, I just wish it wouldn't come all at once
That's right,
and then we get all that heat.
Right.
Well, it's just that, you know,
when it rains, it rains.
In California you get these nice, lovely rains, you know, nothing really you know, like downpours like you have here.
The other day we had some hail, the biggest hail I've ever seen in Texas.
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Oh, really.
Yeah,
I live in Garland.
Oh, you got into that bad stuff.
Yeah.
We got hail the size of marbles.
I mean, just so noisy hitting the house
and the glass on the windows.
It didn't break anything,
but we went out there afterwards
and there's ice balls the size of marbles all over our lawn.
Isn't that strange.
I know, I,
you pick them up, you know,
and they're perfectly round.
And I go, gee, how did they form, you know, so perfect like that.
I think that's one of the strange, strange things,
and you very seldom see it though.
Right,
right.
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I've seen hail, you know,
but usually the size, you know, of, uh, tiny, tiny pebbles.
You know, really small, you know.
But this was, uh, really large.
So it had come, it's a drop of water that had come through quite a few rain clouds apparently.
Is that correct?
Uh, I don't know how hail is formed to tell you the truth.
I think, I think that's,
You don't think it's cold enough, you know to,
It's not on the ground,
but in the clouds it is.
Right,
must be.
I guess,
and then, I think, you know, all that falling would warm it up and melt it,
but maybe that's what rounds it, I don't know. But, tumbling.
I was dumb.
I was in, um, Florida for a week on business.
Uh-huh.
And I had called back to the house.
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I stayed the weekend,
and I called back to the house.
My housekeeper was baby-sitting my cats and dogs, pitched said something to the effect of, now we've made the national news, don't get upset, and don't worry,
it's in Garland where all the bad weather is.
I said, Okay, you know
Uh-huh.
and I watched the news,
and I thought, ha ha, that's Garland, that's not Plano,
I don't have anything to worry about.
I was on the plane heading back to Dallas before it dawned on me, stupid, you own property in Garland
Felt so dumb.
Um.
Finally I got home and found out my property was okay.
Yeah.
There was no problem with it.
But I guess you just tend to think of, of where your house is you know, and nothing else.
Right.
Right,
and close to that, what's called Duck Creek that runs through part of Garland, that's the part that always seems to get hardest hit when there's, there's the hard rain.
Oh, oh, I see.
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The creek overflows
and a lot of houses, a lot of houses around that creek seem to, to get flooded
Oh, okay.
the streets and stuff around that area, get a lot of flooding.
The house, that house, that I bought is close to a Firewheel golf course.
Okay.
Just going to be blocks off of that new highway one ninety that's going through.
Right.
That's where I live, close to that.
Oh really.
Yeah,
uh, uh, not quite,
I don't live in that Firewheel division.
But I live close by there in north, far north Garland.
Is that a nice area?
Yeah
they're supposed to,
it's getting built up, you know, with more new, new shopping centers and things. You know,
it's a fairly new area.
Yeah
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and, uh, and they're supposed to be building a mall somewhere close by, by the next, by ninety-three or ninety-four or something,
a brand new mall not too far away from that area,
Well,
so.
The house that the house that I bought was really, really nice.
It'd be nice.
Uh-huh,
in the Firewheel Estates there, whatever.
Yes,
yes.
Uh-huh.
Really, really nice home, very pretty. Uh.
Uh-huh.
But you're not living there right now.
No,
I'm going to lease it.
Oh, I see.
It's, it's investment property.
I see.
But it is really, it's a very nice place.
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Uh, I, I would cheerfully live there.
Of course it's not my home,
and I've lived in my home in, well, almost ten years,
and, you know, I've got everything just exactly like I want it.
Right.
But if I were to live some place else, it certainly meets my standards.
It's a nice house.
Uh-huh,
yeah,
that's a nice area.
Is it on the golf course?
No,
it's not,
it's off the golf course,
and I'll be honest with you,
I'm going to have to get a map to figure out exactly where is the golf course versus where my house is.
Is that right.
But it's in the estates that adjoin it.
Yeah,
right,
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right.
Well that's a nice area.
Yes,
it is.
That really is a nice area.
When they get that highway finished, you can hop on that and get anywhere you need to go fairly quick.
Yeah,
that one nine that one ninety is just going to be the the outermost loop around.
Right,
another belt line, just, uh, farther out.
Right,
just continue to do that.
Right,
right,
right.
Where are you from in California?
Southern California.
San Diego?
I've lived in San Diego for six years when I was a younger, and L A area,
and my parents live in Anaheim right now.
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Lived up north of Los Angeles in Thousand Oaks area, where the Cowboys have their training camp, or used to anyway.
I've been through all of that.
Yeah.
Uh, there is an area beyond Thousand Oaks, north of Los Angeles that is really an eerie, strange looking area with boulders,
I
they're not really hills,
they're more like just huge boulders with very little vegetation.
Huh.
I'm not familiar with what,
is it along the coast or or inland.
Uh. Well, you know, it may be a little bit more inland.
That is one of the strangest areas I have ever seen.
Um.
Uh, I had to go up to T I on business a couple years ago
Out there,
uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and we went up that coastline,
and I was just amazed how unusual that looks.
Huh.
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Here, hang on just a second,
I've got a Los Angeles map.
Let me just quick
Yeah,
valley.
Yes
Okay,
I know where that is.
beyond Thousand Oaks.
I know where Valley is,
I've been out there before,
sure.
You don't think that's strange looking.
I didn't notice anything strange, I guess about it.
Oh, okay
maybe, maybe I'm used to Texas.
Maybe Texas the way,
The elevation is extremely high.
Uh-huh.
It's got curving roads on it,
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but, but the,
it's just a strange landscape,
there's very little vegetation.
Huh.
I didn't, I don't remember seeing that part of it.
I know Valley,
yeah,
it's just a suburb of L A.
Right.
It's a,
And they've built some new highways out to that area, and things, lately.
People can get in and out of L A easier.
Maybe it's a place I went to,
it was far extreme, thought we'd never find the place.
Huh.
It was interesting. Because we went out the Ventura highway to Thousand Oaks and on up through that way.
Yeah,
sounds interesting.
Right.
Right,
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right.
I, I know exactly that area.
It's a nice area out there.
I love Thousand Oaks.
Uh, Texas, I don't know,
thing, things,
you just have less a variety, I guess.
I think, I don't think it's quite as green, you know.
It's green with all the trees and things out here
but it's just,
Oh, it's green sometime.
Yeah,
but it's just, you know,
I don't know.
Well, it doesn't stay green, you know
Right.
the really,
and in all honesty,
I know this sounds like a Texas story,
all honesty, you haven't seen the hottest of summers if you've only been here five years.
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We haven't had a really bad one,
Yeah
I missed that one of eighty or eighty-two or eighty-one that had the heat wave.
Oh.
It may be eighty-two, because we bought our house in eighty-one
and we built a pool in eighty-two,
Okay
Okay
Um, well, I'm not,
I mean, I read a lot,
but I don't, I don't read a whole,
I mean, uh, eh, eh, eh, I, I, I, I tend to read like only out of a couple, you know, groups.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
Uh, and I'm, a, uh, I'm a big baseball fan,
so I tend to read a lot of the baseball books
and,
I'm a big baseball fan too.
Oh, okay.
And, uh, I read a lot of science fiction.
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well, I like,
I teach school,
and so during the school year, I just don't have time to read.
And I, you know, I would love to, to be able to read more because I, I enjoy it so much.
But with correcting papers and, and I, two kids of my own, I just don't have time.
But in the summer, I try to read a lot.
Uh-huh.
And, and, of course, being a woman, I like romance novels and stuff like that a whole lot.
I just,
I really enjoy that because it's kind of a, a getaway type thing.
Uh-huh.
So I, I read a lot of that.
But I also love sports.
And, uh, uh, I, I don't have time to read in,
but I do read SPORTS ILLUSTRATED during the, the year because my son gets that.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, but, uh, I don't read a lot of nonfiction,
and I really should because there's so many self-improvement books out right now that would, would be, benefit me greatly,
but I just don't.
Uh-huh
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Yeah,
I, um, I don't really, I probably should.
I don't really read the self-improvement books or things like that.
I, uh, um, I'll get like, uh, books on history and stuff like that that look interesting.
And I, uh, of course, I don't ever get around to reading them
Yeah,
yeah.
You know, I got, uh, um,
I I belong to Quality Paperback Book Club.
Oh, do you?
And I'll get, get stuff out of that.
Like I got BATTLE CRY OF FREEDOM, you know, like a couple of years ago.
Uh-huh.
And I started reading, and got about sixty pages into it
and it's like eight hundred pages
Oh, my word.
And it was like, uh, I want to read something else for a while
Yeah.
It's,
some of those books are real tough to get into,
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but after you get into them, they're really good.
Yeah.
But it's just tough to get through that first two hundred pages or so.
Yeah.
Well, especially, you know, well,
BATTLE CRY OF FREEDOM starts off, you know, in the eighteen forties, you know. And it's like,
Yeah.
wait, the war wasn't until the you know.
It's like, okay,
and I realize these things, you know.
These things take awhile like to move up,
but it's, you know, it's hard sometimes.
It's right,
that's right.
I find though, that if, when I find an author,
uh, and you don't read a lot of fiction, you said.
But when I find,
I read a lot of science fiction.
Do you?
Yeah.
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When I find an author I really like, I try to read everything they write. Because you, you get used to their style and you really enjoy it.
Yeah.
That, and
I, I do the same thing.
I,
Yeah.
Uh, there's one science fiction writer named, uh, Allen Dean Foster.
Uh-huh.
I've heard of him.
Oh, okay,
yeah.
He, um,
I must have like fifty or sixty books by him
Is that right?
I mean, I have, you know, I have everything he's ever well, almost everything he's ever done.
Uh-huh.
And, um, you know, I, I know that when I, you know, when I get his book I'm, I'm usually going to enjoy it.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
Um, so it's really, you know,
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it's, it's fun to, to do that. Uh,
Isn't it amazing that somebody can write that many books about science fiction?
I think that's unbelievable.
Yeah.
Well, he does a lot of like, um, uh, movie adaptations and things like that.
Oh, does he really?
Yeah.
And, uh, his adaptations are usually really good.
Oh
Um, it's, it's funny he, um,
the, the novelization of STAR WARS was
you know, it, it was out in the, uh, in the stores as being by George Lucas.
But it turns out that, uh, Foster actually, uh, ghost wrote it for him.
Is that right?
which, you know,
when I read it, I should have realized that because, I mean, it had Foster's style written all over it
Is that right?
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Well, I, I've never read anything of his,
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but I've heard about him.
But wouldn't you think he would,
does he get some royalties from that, hopefully?
Oh, I'm sure he does
Well, I would think he would
I'd hope so.
Well, I mean he's doing all right, probably
Oh, I'm sure he is,
I'm sure he is.
But sometimes the more you get the more you want too,
so,
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
You, you're a baseball fan,
you're, you're aware of that kind of thing
Oh, yeah.
Oh, right,
right,
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right.
I, in fact, I'm a sports fan, period.
Uh-huh.
We,
I mean, that's why I like to read SPORTS ILLUSTRATED so much
because there's everything in it.
Yeah.
I had a, uh, had a subscription to that last year,
but I'm, uh, I'm mostly a baseball fan.
So I'm, I'm not, as you know,
Oh.
the other stuff is interesting
but, um, I was mostly interested in the baseball stuff.
So you're probably, uh, a Baltimore fan, right, an Oriole fan?
Uh, actually I'm a Red Sox fan more than anything.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Boston?
Oh, well, that's good too.
Um, but, uh, I, I, I do like the Orioles also.
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I'm, I'm sure you do.
Well I'm a Ranger fan simply because I live here.
Yeah
But I, I was, uh,
I'm not from here.
I'm originally from Ohio,
so I've always followed the Tigers. Because, you know, I was, I was born and raised in Toledo.
Toledo.
Yeah.
I was in Toledo last summer.
Went to a, uh, to a Mud Hens double header
Oh, I love the Mud Hens
They're great.
I love the name
and, there was a really big article on the Mud Hens in SPORTS ILLUSTRATED last year.
Yeah.
I saved that issue, actually.
Did you?
Um, that's when I had the subscription.
Yeah,
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it was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
I
I really enjoy that team.
I, we used to go there all the time.
I used to live in Iowa too,
and they have the Iowa Oaks.
And we used to go, go to their games all the time.
And,
They don't exist anymore,
I don't, think.
I know, I know they don't.
At least not by that name.
There's the Iowa Cubs,
but I don't know if they play, in the same location.
Oh, they must, they must have changed then. Because it used, well
I haven't lived there for
I've been here for like twelve years now,
so. And I haven't been back to Des Moines in a long time.
But we used to always go to their games,
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Um.
and it was kind of fun.
It's almost, uh, more fun than going to a major league game.
I don't know,
I just really enjoy the, farm teams.
I,
minor league, baseball, I think is a lot more fun than, major league baseball.
Yes,
it is.
It's not quite so serious, you know.
And it's a lot cheaper
That's for sure,
that's, for sure.
Yeah.
There's, um, there's a city just west of of, uh Baltimore, called Frederick.
It's about forty miles west.
Is that right?
And they have a minor league team.
And I go out there almost as much as the Orioles
and, um,
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Is that right?
I,
it's just a lot of fun.
I mean, it's free parking
and three you know, four bucks now to get in.
And, you know, the hot dogs are a dollar
and, and it's just great.
Well, how, like how much is an Oriole game?
Oriole game?
If you park in the lot across the street from the stadium, it's four bucks.
The ticket, the the cheapest ticket you can normally get is like six fifty to seven fifty.
Oh, gosh.
See, it's higher than the Rangers.
Yeah.
And, um, hot dogs like start at a dollar fifty
Oh, yeah.
the food here is outrageous.
But, uh, you can get a good seat for, uh, well
it used to be three dollars.
But I think it's gone up to four dollars this year.
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Oh, that's nice.
But, you know, it's in the bleachers, way out in the, you know, in center field,
but it's still nice.
Yeah.
You still can see well.
And, uh, we usually sit there unless somebody gives us tickets, you know, box seats or something, then we usually sit out there.
Uh-huh.
Well how much are the box seats there?
Do you know offhand?
Box seats run from, oh, like eight dollars to twelve dollars.
Yeah.
That's, um, that's a little steeper.
I think the, uh, most expensive seats in Memorial are eleven bucks.
But we're getting a new stadium next year
so,
Oh, so it'll go up.
Yeah,
it'll go up.
And, if it opens
It's, uh, something we're really irritated about around here.
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Or some people are really irritated about.
They're, they're building this new they built the new stadium downtown.
And they're saying how there's going to be a lot more parking for the stadium.
Uh-huh.
But I park for free up at, at Memorial Stadium because I know where I can do it for free
Oh, oh.
And, um, I'm not going to be able to do that downtown
Uh, that's, yeah, that's a bummer.
Yeah.
We,
Well, see, baseball here though is the cheapest game in town. Because the Cowboys,
it's it's outrageous to go to the Cowboy game.
Uh-huh.
And the Mavericks are
it's high too.
Uh-huh.
So baseball's cheap, compared to other games.
Weren't you guys, supposed to get a stadium in downtown Dallas?
Well, that didn't go over, now.
Oh, it it didn't, go through.
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They, they, they decided, you know, George Bush, who, who's the main owner of the Rangers, decided that, uh, they'd stay in Arlington.
So Arlington's going to build a stadium, a bigger one.
Oh, okay.
So we're going to, they're going to stay there. Which is fine, because Arlington's got a lot of things to offer.
And, and that was their main, main money making, you know, deal for the city.
Uh-huh.
And it would have devastated them if they would have taken it away.
Yeah.
Because everything,
there's Six Flags right by the stadium, there's a Wet 'n Wild
and, and it, you know, that's,
Uh-huh.
all the tourists come there.
Uh-huh.
And, and they,
it would have been devastated,
they would have collapsed.
So I'm kind of glad they're staying there. Because it's right in the middle of Fort Worth-Dallas,
and, you know,
Yeah.
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That's, that's what I'd always heard,
I've, uh,
Yeah.
We, you know, we, I like it there.
And I think Dallas has enough to offer that they don't have to hog everything
So, I'm glad that they're staying in Arlington.
Uh-huh.
And it's takes us maybe, uh, well, thirty-five to forty minutes to get there from Plano, which is not too bad at all.
Yeah.
That's about what it takes me to get to Memorial.
Yeah.
Um, it's it actually funny that, um, I live just outside of Baltimore.
So,
And it takes me almost the same amount of time to go to Frederick, but as it does to go to the, the ballpark in in, uh, Baltimore. Because, um, to go out to Frederick, I just jump on the Interstate
Is that right?
and,
because I live just south of the Interstate.
Uh-huh.
hop on the Interstate,
and the stadium's right off the Interstate
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Oh, gosh.
So, it's like I drive west
and I'm there.
And, you know, and then to go into Baltimore, I mean, it well, it's fewer miles,
but I've got to go, stop and go traffic and everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you read, um,
I guess you read SPORTS ILLUSTRATED
but you don't read many sports books
or,
Well, not really.
Now my son does,
I have, I have a son that just turned sixteen,
Uh-huh.
and he reads everything he gets, he gets his, get his hands on.
He's reading a Dick Vitelle book right now because he's a real big Dick Vitelle fan.
He's a basketball fan because he, he plays for the high school he goes to
and uh, just loves Dick Vitelle, which not many people do.
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So, but he's reading it,
and he's
and he says, He's so interesting, Mom.
You just can't believe all the things he's done.
And he's really enjoying that.
And I,
and he said, Mom, you need to read it after I get finished.
So maybe I will.
There was, uh, I understand there was a really good basketball book called, uh, A SEASON ON THE BRINK.
I never heard that one.
Yeah,
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
I'm trying to think of the guy's name.
It was like John Feinstein or something like that wrote it.
Uh-huh.
I just heard about it the other night.
Huh.
Uh, I was listening to something on the radio about, uh, you know, a talk show about sports books,
Uh-huh.
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Uh-huh.
and they, and they mentioned that one.
I'll have to tell my son about that.
I'm sure he'd like it.
Yeah.
And, uh, I was thinking about,
there was a, I saw a book kicking around on the history of the A B A, which,
Oh, that would be good
Yeah.
I get in to, even when I don't like the sport so much, I get interested in the history of sports franchises or
Okay.
All right.
Uh, do you have any friends that have children?
I do have friends that have children,
yes.
And what do they say about finding adequate child care?
They,
I think that may be the key word.
I think that's correct.
They're, uh, relatively nonexistent from, uh, from what I hear from my friends.
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It seems like, uh, even when they have consulted day care centers that are quote unquote reputable, that are sort of like a chain, if I can use that word uh, still you have to deal with the people that, you know, happen to be operating it locally
Right.
and, uh, it's just a matter of, of trust, you know,
I think they feel that these people are, um, under qualified basically and underpaid,
and I think that sort of goes hand in hand
so it's, it's difficult for them.
Well, we certainly found that to be true.
Huh-uh.
Uh, indeed we've,
our children are now eleven and nine.
Huh-uh.
And we moved away from institutionalized child care if we can call those chain kind of things , like that. Uh, by that name. And found that, uh, more creative avenues were the right answer for us.
Huh-uh.
Right.
Right.
Huh-uh.
Huh-uh.
Uh, at one point in time we've had au pairs, by trading services with them,
Huh-uh.
Huh-uh.
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and that worked for a while,
but they were really, adequate ones were really tough to find.
I'm sure that's true.
It takes that mixture of a very mature college student, who wants to do something and yet is willing to give the time, and the interest to the children.
Huh-uh.
Right.
Right.
I do have a friend that, uh, uh,
she and her roommate became live-in care givers
and they loved it.
They had stayed with this family from the time these children were small, you know, four or five years old, up until they were well into grade school.
And, uh, she was paid very well because they, the parents trusted them
and they, you know, had done such a good job.
So, um, I can see where someone, you know, in a position like that, in a live-in capacity, would definitely be the way to go if you're, you're lucky enough to have the financial to be able to do that.
Well, that's true,
Yeah.
and that's something that we're struggling with now.
Yeah.
I think it's just a matter of priorities.
It's, uh, you know, it's a terrible thing to say when your speaking of children in that way,
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but you still have to be realistic, as well, I think.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Much as other cultures disagree, our lives don't revolve around our children.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's, that's, that's bad to have to admit, too,
but, uh, you know, it's just, there's so much pressure when you're talking about two people that work outside the home
and, and I think that is one reason why I continue to be without children.
I,
it's just such a responsibility and, and when I've had friends that have said,
when you hear people say, it, it alters your life forever, please take heed well,
I realize that's true
so it's, uh, such a responsibility.
Well, it certainly is. Uh,
if I can the other side of the coin for a moment.
Huh-uh.
It is such an honor and a thrill, to be a parent, that most of the time, it's worth it.
Oh, yeah.
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Huh-uh.
Yeah
Most of the time
Well, I just have to be honest about it.
It's not always, worth it.
Yeah.
Oh, sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
There are those times when I think, gee, if I didn't have children I could be out playing bridge or golf.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Right.
But, you know, it's funny.
I did, I had a friend that said, you know, before we always said we don't want children because we can't go off on the spur of the moment or this or that and the other
and she got older
and she said, but you know, we never do those things anyway.
So why why am I waiting, you know,
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it's, it's just the way your attitude changes
and you mature I suppose.
But the thing about the child care I, you know, I have friends that struggle financially and, and they both do have to work.
It's a matter not necessarily, uh, that she might want to stay home or he, as well,
but, you know, they need the money.
And, uh, when I seen some of my friends that have taken that six week old baby, you know, to someone else, it's just, I can imagine how emotional it must be. And, and, you know, multiplied by the fact that you don't really trust the person or you're uncomfortable with the situation , as far as child care, um,
it's just a scary thing.
Well, we were lucky when our children were that age,
and having lived in a community for a while and we knew the person to whom we were entrusting our children.
Huh-uh.
That's a big plus .
And felt that, that , and feeling of safety.
Right.
Right.
And were leaving them small children.
Huh-uh.
But, we also learned something from that experience as our children got older.
Yeah.
It's that care givers are not omniscient
Huh-uh.
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they are not all things to all people or all children.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
The ones that are good with babies tend not to be good with toddlers.
Huh-uh.
Huh-uh.
I think it takes a,
I don't know,
I think your patient level must, needs to increase as the child gets older
I think that might be part of the problem with some people. You know,
taking care of a baby, I know, is not an easy thing,
but when you have them in, their, their little feet are moving
and you have to chase them down constantly.
I'm sure that's a whole new ball game.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah,
I have a nine year old that I would trade happily for a baby .
Oh, really.
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Well, you sound like your pretty well passed the worst of it as far as worrying about,
since they're both in school, you don't have to worry about a full-time person to take care of them. fading in and
Oh, you don't know what happens after they get in school.
That's something altogether different, uh.
Oh, yes.
Now we have, uh, one takes piano lessons, somewhere on one afternoon
Huh-uh.
and the other one, of course can't do the same thing.
Oh, of course not.
It has to be somewhere else
and no
it's not adequate to sit and wait.
You can't do that.
No.
No.
No.
No.
That just,
that will not do.
That's out of the question,
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I'm sure.
Of course.
But, we are helping, you know.
Right.
Right.
We are being cooperative,
what's wrong with you?
Right.
Right.
You don't understand this.
Huh-uh.
That's just the way their minds work.
And it's almost everyday.
That's amazing.
It's amazing that people actually,
the stamina that you must, you know, draw from yourself to deal with it.
It must be interesting.
I guess you find out that you're a much stronger person than you thought, maybe.
Well, I've been finding out that I really am a nice person.
hit for many years.
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because I didn't need it.
Huh-uh.
And now, I need it.
Now it's just a reservoir that you tend to regularly, I'm sure.
Yeah.
And it stays low a lot
Well, are your children now,
do you feel comfortable, um, with them coming home after school until you and your wife get home
or,
Absolutely not.
No.
Yeah.
I mean, one of them I would, I would leave unsupervised any time, any place, any where.
Huh-uh.
Uh, the other one I wouldn't leave unsupervised two minutes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's just a difference in kids, I suppose.
That's true.
Yeah.
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What,
one leads the other?
Huh-uh,
yeah.
And, uh,
and it's, it's the one that's going downhill,
is it, is it the one that needs, needs more supervision that has a bad influence on the older or more mature one?
Of course.
Yeah
How unfortunate
You don't think, you don't think that good prevails.
Well, I, I, I'm living in a dream world,
what do I know.
As I said, I don't have kids
and I'm an only child
so I've never been around children.
So, uh, I'm sort of at a loss where that's concerned.
But I do hear my friends talk about it.
We, we're having such fun,
my wife and I were both only children.
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Huh-uh.
And we just couldn't wait to have two children so they would be such friends.
Yeah
Wrong.
That's like World War Three every minute
I don't know
I, I, I have to admit, I was selfish as a child.
I didn't want a brother or sister.
And now that I'm older, of course, it's different.
You know, I think about, uh, wouldn't it be nice,
but, uh, anyway.
Just make good friends.
Yeah, oh,
I have wonderful friends.
That's true
my best friend is one child of ten.
And so they just sort of, you know, adopted me as their eleventh child
so that worked out pretty well.
She never had to worry about taking anybody to child care because there was always somebody there older to deal with them,
so I guess, that's an alternative.
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If you could just, um, have a whole bunch
Have enough.
By the time the youngest ones are there, you'll have older one to take care of them.
That's true.
I don't know.
When you see all these horror stories on television about child care
and, gosh,
I just,
I was seeing something on the television earlier about a little girl that's been telling her mother these terrible stories
and of course people are denying it.
And, uh, it's just frightening.
It really is.
Well, what, what's frightening is a parent to see things that, that you don't really don't understand.
Huh-uh.
Huh-uh.
And then you don't really know what happened.
Yeah.
We gave up on one baby sitter because we came home one night and found pieces of, um, ribbon, you know, hair ribbon tied in a chair. Where obviously she had, had,
Huh-uh.
Huh-uh.
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Do you have any pets now?
Oh, I sure do,
I have a cat and a dog named Joey.
Joey,
the dog is Joey?
Uh-huh,
The cat is,
he's the little boy Pomeranian.
Oh, my goodness.
And we just got a new addition to the family, so to speak,
we also have a fish.
Oh, my
It's a mud dog.
I beg your pardon.
It's a mud dog.
It's, uh, a cross between a catfish and, uh, I don't know what, a salamander.
Oh.
Well did you all catch it,
or, uh,
Uh-huh,
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we have a cat, Stripper.
Uh-huh.
Oh, the mud dog.
No,
did,
no
did you catch the fish?
Uh, we had a friend give it to us.
Uh-huh,
and it's all alone in that aquarium.
Yeah,
we'd like to get him a friend
but um, uh, we haven't found one yet.
So how about you,
do you have any pets?
Well at the present time I have two dogs.
Oh really,
what kind?
An English setter, you know,
that's the white dog with the feathers
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and it has, uh, yellow spots on it which they call, I think, uh, liver spots.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
And that's a male.
And I have a wonderful female lab, black lab.
Uh-huh,
how long have you had them.
Quite a long time, uh, probably five or six years
and unfortunately the black lab that's a female, it, it's, it's the most wonderful animal we've ever had,
an,
when she was about three years old we noticed that she was having uh, problems limping and so forth
and, she has hip dysplasia.
Uh-huh.
Oh no.
And it's in that breed.
Uh-huh.
But now I think there are tests that can be conducted, uh, to tell whether or not the puppies have the, have it.
Uh-huh.
But I think,
I don't know,
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apparently they've been so in, well I don't know inbred, or what,
but,
Oh, is that right?
Well
I'm not sure that's the situation,
but, it, um,
for those dogs that are registered
and if, if you should have one, uh, that also has hip dysplasia you cannot breed it, uh.
Huh,
I had no idea,
I hadn't, didn't even know that.
Uh-huh,
but she's wonderful.
Um, our dog, Joey, has, uh, a back problem.
Um, like
what are the what are the symptoms?
Uh, he, he's got a bad back
but he's seven, uh,
I guess he's almost eight years old.
Um, he just, uh,
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he doesn't,
he, uh, he rolls
he doesn't like to roll over.
Uh-huh.
Um,
you just,
when you touch him a certain way on the back,
Yes.
but otherwise, he can jump, uh, you know, just as long as he doesn't bend a certain way.
Um. Well, uh, I have had just wonderful luck with this lab, uh,
when
uh, let's see, winter before last we would bring her in, and, uh, when it was cold.
Uh-huh.
And she wouldn't,
I, you know,
the next morning you want to take them out,
and she wouldn't,
I couldn't get her up without picking her up and which it was pretty hard to do at eighty pounds.
I bet.
Um, until,
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if I allowed her to not get up on her own, it'd be two o'clock in the afternoon.
Uh-huh.
Anyway, I, uh, met my son's, uh, college roommate, is a vet
and he said, um, let's give her some race horse shots.
And you know in,
I'm, I'm kind of glad to be able to tell people about this, but you, because you all the time, you know, run into people with problems.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway, that's when we lived in Oklahoma,
and, uh, so he gave this dog a series of ,
it's,
they give it to race horses, uh, to get rid of, uh cartilage,
Uh-huh.
and it's called .
Anyway, it's a series of six shots, once a week,
and then I noticed after two shots she was,
Do you have to give those?
Well I could have,
but I can't give a shot.
Oh, I
believe me, I understand.
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I took her from Enid, Oklahoma to Oklahoma City every week for six weeks.
Uh.
And, uh, after the, the second shot she was significantly better.
Then I didn't notice any improvement till the, after the sixth one.
Uh-huh.
And ever since,
and he said, uh, a booster, uh, every year or two, I mean, maybe every six months or, or something like that
Uh-huh.
and when I notice in the winter, when it's worse, you know, it's cold weather and so forth then I have, uh, gotten a booster for her.
But not many people in this part of the country know anything about .
Um.
I've had to get it from Oklahoma.
They've heard about it
but they've really never used it.
Uh-huh,
yeah,
I've never heard anything about it either.
So dogs that get down in the hips,
like I think German Shepherds do it, and probably large dogs.
Uh-huh.
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And, uh, it's just wonderful.
Does he get,
is he an inside dog also,
Uh.
or does he just run out in the backyard?
Is he fenced in?
Um, um, well we're living now in an area where we, we, we're in the woods
and we take walks.
I just don't let them, uh, uh, go away from me,
Oh, yeah,
uh-huh.
but we take walks through the woods twice a day.
Oh, that's nice.
And, uh, I can over do it on her.
Oh, yeah.
But anyway, at least she can go
and she's not limping along and all that.
Uh-huh.
Tell me about your cat.
Oh, Stripper, well he started out being a little orphan,
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and we, we took him in
and, uh, he's about two years old now
and he loves his treats,
uh, both, uh, Joey and, uh, Stripper get treats
And, uh, let's see,
And is, um, Stripper an inside cat, or outside?
Oh, well he's outside
and, uh, he's got a way to get in,
Uh-huh.
he's got free access of a window we like to keep open.
Yes.
So, he gets to go in and out whenever he wants to.
Well of course.
That's nice,
they, they,
Joey, on the other hand is a little different.
He has to go out whenever, uh, we ask him
and when he, when we ask him, he, uh, he barks.
He'll either bark for food, or he'll bark to go out
and he'll tell you which one he wants.
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He's been through obedience school.
Well he just can,
well he has been trained
and you've you've kept it up, haven't you.
Oh, definitely.
Yeah,
it is wonderful,
I, I have some neighbors across the field,
and, um, they
when we first moved here, uh, when the dogs and I didn't
we have a very nice kennel and everything
but, but since I, I didn't want to,
I, I just wanted to let them be able to be free for a while.
Uh-huh.
So I kept watch and never let them get away,
but now every couple weeks, they one would slip away
and my neighbor said to me, oh, I noticed those dogs, dogs are so well trained,
anytime they hear your voice, they come.
So that made me very proud
Oh, yeah
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Well, have we been talking five minutes?
I'm not for sure.
I'm not either,
but,
I think maybe we have,
but,
Yeah.
Well, um, so it sounds like you keep your pets for pleasure.
Oh, definitely.
Have you ever done this before?
Yes.
Oh, okay, um,
I haven't ever called.
I've put in the paper work, I just never made the call.
Oh really,
uh-huh.
Yeah,
so I didn't know if they stop you when the time is up
or,
No,
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they don't,
no.
I, I glanced at the clock when, um, we started
and I think it's been probably about five and a half minutes or something.
But one day I was talking to a lady about gardening
and I'm, I love gardening
and she did too,
an, and, after, after about twelve minutes or something, the recording came on and said that was the end of the tape
Uh-huh.
Oh, well, at least you know you did your part.
Uh-huh,
but it's been so much fun too, uh, talk.
How did you get into this.
Well, my best friend in Virginia's daughter, is a part of this project in Texas.
Oh, I see.
And so she knew that I had the time and would be, would enjoy it.
Uh-huh,
that's true.
Um, so.
I mean, I,
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But I have a hard time getting anybody, because I guess,
do you work.
Um, yes
I do.
Yeah,
and probably just got home.
Uh-huh.
So, um, during the day, I
I
and I understand also they want men.
Right,
I was going to tell you the same thing.
They're really looking for a lot more men to participate.
Yeah,
my husband does.
Does he.
Yeah,
I need to,
Yes.
I've got some applications,
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I need to hand them out.
But, uh, this is a great project, that they're working on
and it's really going to lead the way, uh, for a lot of um, applications and, and development in the voice area.
Yes,
I think so too,
and I haven't helped them out on the on men particularly,
but my husband had been in fact, he's been, probably has made a few more calls than I have because I tend to not make them around dinner time,
Uh-huh.
I try to, you know, make them do, during the day,
but nobody's home.
Well this is the perfect time for me.
Well good.
Well maybe I'll get you next time.
Yeah
it so much fun to talk to you.
All right,
have a good one.
You too,
bye.
Bye.
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Okay,
well, I, I, I guess if I was having a dinner party I, depending on the number of people, I might cook a, like a brisket or a roast or a, maybe a chicken dish
Uh-huh.
and, um, I guess I usually plan probably a lettuce salad and a, a potato dish,
and we usually serve fresh fruit and, uh, then make a dessert.
Oh, that sounds good.
So that makes,
Uh, we're not, uh, real wealthy at the moment.
Last time I had people over for dinner we had lasagna,
and I used my mother's recipe,
I really like it.
It's got, um,
you cook the noodles and make, and brown hamburger and put tomato sauce in with it
and, I'm not sure she even puts,
must be some Italian spices in there.
I can't remember.
But, um, for the cheese part, you mix, uh, sour cream, and cream cheese and cottage cheese and, uh, layer all that.
Well, that sounds good.
It's good.
That sounds good.
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And, then, uh, uh, tossed salad and, and, um, someone in the Oh,
my goodness, Diane, get down from there.
to And, uh, let's see,
what else did I serve with that.
Bread, do you have bread to go with it?
Corn,
yeah,
I made French bread with that one too.
Gosh.
I have a recipe that's pretty good for that
So.
Oh, well, lasagna's always wonderful for large crowds.
Yeah.
I've heard, you know, I've heard a lot of people say, it, the short cut on the cooking for lasagna,
they, they've told me that they go to Sam's and buy a great big pan of lasagna.
I've heard that Sam's has a really good lasagna
So.
in fact I think I had it at a, at a party once.
Did you?
It was good.
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Well, I, I know people that have, have served it
and they say, gosh, if you have company coming when you don't want to be always in the kitchen, it's easy,
Easy
and she said it's, they said it's good.
Yeah.
So, that, that's always sounds good to me, um,
Yeah.
I feel like, I feel like I'm in the kitchen cooking a lot.
Oh, I know.
I cook, guess I cook a, seems like I cook a lot of dinners, oh, not always for company, just for, just for family.
Oh, yeah.
So, feels like I'm often in the kitchen.
Not my favorite place, but. A necessity
But a time consuming place.
Yeah,
right,
right,
so.
Let's see,
what else do we like to have for,
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trying to think what else I like to serve.
My mother likes to serve taco grandes.
Have you ever had, that?
I don't know,
what that is.
No
I don't know what that is.
You take a flour tortilla
and you fry it like a taco shell
Okay.
Right.
and you, uh,
for all the inside parts you brown hamburger and put some, um, tomato sauce in it,
and, and I like to just add picante sauce to get the Mexican flavor
so you don't have to mess with spices and stuff.
Right.
And, then, um, let's see,
and then, and you heat up refried beans,
and you cut up tomatoes and lettuce and grated cheese,
and what you do to make it, you take the shell and you spread the beans on first,
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then you put the meat,
then you put the grated cheese,
and then you put, um,
let's see, what's next,
then, and I, I usually put the cut up tomatoes next and then the, um, lettuce,
Right.
and you can put, uh, like guacamole and someone in the
Katy, I'm on the phone.
Well, get a towel or go change.
I'm on the phone.
to Um, oh a little sour cream is good and, and chopped olives,
Right.
Right.
Do you like to make your own guacamole?
Uh, yeah.
Yeah,
we, we don't make it very often, I guess,
but, uh,
No,
I don't very often.
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Usually when we get avocados my kids just like to eat them plain
Oh do they?
so. Yeah.
Gosh,
I just cut slices off
and. I like an avocado sandwich, too.
Gosh,
Oh, that's good,
that's good,
or it's always good on top of something in the sandwich.
Yeah,
yeah.
Oh, well, we made, I made guacamole that I would take to a pool party across the street the other day,
and, and everyone there said they never made guacamole salad.
off What you want.
to where do they get it?
Well, I don't know,
I guess they don't have it at home,
I can't imagine it would stay fresh long enough to,
I guess they just buy it at a restaurant when they eat it at a restaurant maybe.
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They must, they just said they never had it at home.
So I, I was concerned that, I thought, oh, taking this, you know, taking this as a dip, I thought, gosh, you know, sometimes when we have it at home it, it turns dark on the top so quickly,
Yeah.
so I just,
It helps if you, I helps if you leave the pit in it.
Oh, does that help?
Yeah,
if you leave the pit in the bowl with the thing, especially while you're waiting before you serve it.
Okay,
well,
That's supposed to help keep the, um, keep it from turning brown so quick.
Well, I'll have to remember that.
Well, I just, I, that day I just took extra lemon and just squeezed across the top
and it really stayed longer than I ever thought it would,
Oh.
so.
Oh, that's good.
I thought maybe that was the trick.
That probably helps, too.
Yeah,
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yeah,
so. Oh, well. I guess we bought a lot of,
we've been buying turkey lately, instead of beef,
so
Do you want it?
even though, you know,
Oh, yeah
we have too,
the ground turkey, it's, the meat is softer
and I,
everybody seems to like it.
Do you want scrambled?
So. Sometimes it seems to be cheaper, too,
so we often buy it
Yeah.
Yeah
we buy it,
if you get it on sale,
Yeah,
yeah,
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so we bought that
or we bought the, the filets, and then the chicken, or turkey nuggets,
and I don't think anybody in my house knows the difference, unless you tell them.
Yeah,
yeah
Or in,
I don't think mine know either.
In fact, we've been getting lunch meat that's turkey, too.
It costs less than the other,
I don't know,
there's supposed to be something more healthy about it
Yeah,
yeah.
Poultry instead of the beef and pork,
yeah
right,
right.
Well, I guess that's probably all we need to do for tonight.
Yeah,
I, I can't think of any other specific things I like to serve. Um,
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I always like dessert
One salad that we always like, my sister-in-law always brings to family dinners, is a,
I don't know what you call it.
Uh, you mix, um, cottage cheese and a package of jello and a thing of, uh, like Cool Whip
Right,
right
that's good and quick and easy,
that's always good,
Probably, probably the only family recipe that we, we make and it's really for special occasions is cheese cake,
and we take a recipe from my grandmother, you know
Uh-huh.
it's probably fairly typical, cream cheese and egg and sugar, and the insides of a,
Well, this is the season for vacations.
And, uh, I guess for places I like to go, I enjoy going to the beach and having, having outdoor, being outdoors somewhere.
Someplace that's very different than Texas.
Right.
And I,
as far as, maybe, maybe as the summer heat comes along I would sort of like going somewhere where it's not so hot. And being able to be outside, enjoy outside activities,
so.
Yeah.
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Enjoy going places where,
I enjoy playing tennis,
so I like to have a tennis court there,
or, or if it's at the beach, the beach is great.
A pool is great.
And, I ,
Where, where do you usually go?
Oh, well, let's see,
we have plans this year to drive up to the, uh, to Colorado.
Uh-huh.
And, we will be going to Estes Park, and Colorado Springs,
so.
Uh-huh.
One year we went to the southwest corner of Colorado, into Durango and north of the area there.
Uh-huh.
And I,
boy that's a nice, a nice place to visit.
It's really nice at,
there's a nice, nice train ride that goes up to the city of Silverton where they used to do a lot of silver mining.
Right.
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And, uh, and then actually, north, north of that is another town and, a smaller, on a smaller scale, I guess, than Silverton.
But, I, and then there's lots and lots of real, of mountains that are covered with, uh, boulders.
Uh-huh.
So, I guess people Jeep through that area
and we did not have a chance to do that.
But, I sure would like to go back there and do that again.
Right.
We are, uh, we have not had a vacation in several years,
so, be our first chance in awhile, uh,
we are going to go to, uh, Destin, Florida, which is a very nice beach area, if you are not familiar with it.
I have not been,
but I have heard it's wonderful.
Oh, it's, it's gorgeous.
Uh, we used to go quite a bit, uh, before I moved out here.
We were closer and, uh, used to go almost every summer, uh, and, rent a condo there on the beach.
Uh, there's quite a few, uh, there's a lot of development of, of condominiums there on the beach front.
Right.
And, uh, so they have, uh, they are very, very large condos.
And, they have quite a few rooms, and, uh, so we, we will usually rent one for about a week or so.
And,
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Right,
and the, beach is nice,
go down.
Oh.
the beach is really nice, isn't it.
Yes,
it's, uh, it's beautiful white sand and very clear blue green water, and a, lot of nice waves usually, uh,
Oh.
Sea shells.
enough, enough to make it.
I am sorry.
Sea shells.
Uh, there's not as many sea shells along there, uh,
that's the only thing that they really do not,
they have some, but not, not so much.
Yeah.
Um, if you go further down, uh, you will usually find some, but not right in there.
Uh, I do not know why it is,
but, uh, it just,
it seems not, it seems not to have as many there, right there.
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But, uh, we, we enjoy it, uh,
it's,
the place where we stay is, we usually stay at the same place every year,
and they are, like I say right on the beach.
So,
Oh, where do you stay?
My husband always wants to go to Destin,
we just have not gone that direction yet.
It's a place called Jetty East, uh, J E T T Y E A S T,
and it's, uh, called that because it's at the very end of, uh, a jetty there, which is, uh, sort of at the end of this little, little point
Okay.
and, uh, it's a, at the very end,
it's the last set of condominiums there,
and it's, uh, it's very nice. Uh,
it's not very expensive, uh,
you can,
I think we are going to go with another couple and their kids.
And, uh, they have a, we have a, uh, I think it's three bedroom or two bedroom, uh, condominium, which will sleep, I do not know, quite a few about , six or eight. And, uh, cause it's got, you know, pull out couches and all that,
Right.
and, uh, I think it's going to cost us, per couple, about three hundred dollars for the week.
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Oh. That's nice.
Yeah,
it really is,
because, uh, the, uh, you know, it has got its own kitchen, full size, kitchen and everything.
Great.
And, this one, I think has two baths,
and it's,
the one we got is on the, on the beach side.
So,
Oh, nice.
We have got a beautiful view and balcony,
and, uh, just,
you know, it's really a nice stay. Uh,
in fact, we stayed there on our honeymoon,
we, I had won a trip to the Bahamas, but did not get to take it on our honeymoon time,
so we instead went there, uh, and loved it just as much as, as if we had gone to the Bahamas.
We, in fact, we stayed an extra day or so, because we liked
Oh.
the, uh, the particular uh, uh, uh, suite we had gotten was very nice
and, so we decided to stay.
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Great.
Oh.
But, uh, it's a pretty nice place,
you will need to try to go and, stay there sometime.
Well, we have just we have just,
It's a little far from here,
but, uh,
Are you driving?
Yeah,
we are.
We are,
it will take, uh, a day and a half to get there, probably.
Oh.
So.
Well, we are,
the neighborhood that we live, they are switching to an alternate calendar this year,
so it,
starting, well, starting at the end of July, we will have two vacation weeks in October and two vacation weeks in March.
Uh-huh.
So that will be an interesting turn on vacations for our family.
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So, I,
Uh, what does, what does that mean, alternate?
Well, it's,
what it truly is supposed to mean is nine weeks of school, three weeks of vacation, nine weeks of school, three weeks of vacation.
Oh.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, in, and in the summer would be more like a two month, two month break.
Right.
So, and they hope to boost the, they hope to boost the learning of the children. Just the retention of the material for them.
I see.
So, uh,
Kind of scattering the vacation out, throughout the year.
Yeah,
Yeah.
yeah.
So, it's
so, anyway, so maybe, maybe within a year, we will see how that falls
Right.
We will head for, we will head for Florida, maybe in somewhat of an off season, instead of summer.
Right.
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So, uh.
Okay.
Well, that's probably all we need to do today.
Okay.
Alright.
So long.
Thanks a lot.
Bye-bye.
All right
and, and your occupation is teaching?
I'm a, I'm a substitute teacher.
Substitute teacher.
Is, is this Pat I'm talking to now?
Yes,
it is, it is.
Yeah,
I'm a substitute teacher, in, I believe, the same school system we both work in.
Right.
Well, I was just trying to make an introduction, here
Oh, okay.
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But, oh, and, and I haven't told you I'm going to be at a different school this year, now.
Oh.
I've just gotten a, another job at an elementary library at Barron.
Well, I bet you're, you're, you may dress differently, then, for that.
Right.
I,
well, not really.
I've got the, every day I've got to, uh, read to kindergartners,
so I'm going to be down on the floor with them.
I've got about forty kindergartners I'm going to be doing, working with every day for, uh, you know, a half hour.
So I'll be, I'll probably be wearing slacks as often as I do because I'm, I'm, if I'm going to be down on the floor messing with them, I'm not going to wear nylons and, you know nice nylons and dresses.
Well, What I wear sometimes depends on, on how cold I think the school might be or what room I might be in since I'm a sub, and have different rooms to go to. And always carry a sweater.
Right.
Well, of course, you've been at Clark enough that you know it's always cold
Yes.
But, you don't know, uh, I guess at some of the other schools you go to unless you've been there.
No,
you try to layer, so you can add or, or or take off.
Subtract.
Right.
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And it's, it's interesting to notice when you go to different schools that some are a little more fancier than others and have a very casual, uh,
I, I think some of the dress codes are different at different schools.
That's one of things, one of the things I ask about, you know, whether, whether she would allow slacks
and she said she doesn't have a problem with that,
she just didn't like sloppy dressing.
Uh-huh.
And, and I said, well, you know, that was okay.
And I'm,
basically, I just, you know, I wear slacks year round except every, about once a week I try to wear a skirt.
And, and in the winter, you know, I just add a, maybe wear longer sleeve shirts than I do in the summer. And add a heavier jacket or, you know, wear jackets more in the winter than I do in the summer.
Uh-huh.
That's about,
I don't, I don't really work in a profession that requires that I wear a business suit and, you know, look really,
Right,
and, well, for me sometimes, they even have dress up days
or they, you know, have, have spirit week that, that you wear your different outfits
Yeah
and you have to have the color for that particular school if you, if you choose to participate in spirit week.
Right.
And one might be a hat day where you have to come up with some sort of hat.
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And you never know that, though sometimes when you're going in, do you?
No,
but because I sort of stick to several schools, uh, I'm usually aware that there might be a spirit week going on and, and might, might remember to do it.
Right,
right.
And then many schools on a particular day during, uh, I guess football season, maybe all year long, they wear the school colors for, uh, game day which,
Right.
On what, Thursday.
Right,
it might be Thursday for the high schools
and it may be Friday for the senior high schools.
Right,
right.
So that would kind of give you a, a clue, I guess
and, and sometimes you get the long term stuff
so you're aware ahead of time of what's going on.
Yeah.
That,
so that's,
and I don't know, you know,
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I, I think about, well, the dress code they have for the kids, you know.
Are
they put one on the parents, or the teachers and say they have to, the men have to wear ties
and there can be no blue jeans worn
and, because some of the teachers I know wear, uh, dress up jeans, not sloppy looking jeans but tapered jeans that they've had dry cleaned so they have got the crease
Uh-huh.
and, uh, you know, they'll wear it with a nice top.
And, and, uh, I don't know that that looks that bad.
But, if you're going to tell the kids they have to dress up, I guess you can tell the teachers that, too.
Yeah,
it, it,
I see that the,
I think the elementary school teachers, or maybe even the middle school teachers dress a little fancier than, than some of the high school teachers, I think.
Uh-huh.
But it, I think it varies, it, it just so much.
Anything, anything can go.
Uh-huh.
And you can see in some of the departments in some of the schools, like history at Clark, they're all pretty fancy.
But they're just sort of into clothes,
and then there's other departments that aren't.
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Right.
Right,
right.
And they'll just wear your common, ordinary, you know, whatever you might might say,
Yeah,
there's a couple teachers up there that, that do dress up more than others.
Right.
Right.
And so you try to maybe follow those if you know you're going there,
you don't want to dress too tacky because you're going to be in the same room with them.
Right.
Well, and you always,
course, it's a standing joke, you know, when the, when the men come in in a, a tie and a suit coat, you say, you know, what, have you got a job interview today
or, there, there's, There's usually, yeah, there's usually something going on that, that, uh, and would, would, uh, cause that to happen
Or you're going to be observed.
Yeah.
and I, I don't know how a coach would feel if, that teaches health or you know, English, or whatever that they had to wear a tie.
I,
some of those male coaches, that might really,
Right.
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They go around in their little coaching shorts or parachute pants.
Right,
and a T-shirt.
Right.
That I didn't ever understand.
I mean we've got coaches that teach health for five periods and then have athletics sixth period
so
Yeah,
well at Vines, the coaches don't do that.
Whether,
They, they dress pretty good, I would say
and then they go to their coaching
and they, they put their shorts on there.
Change then.
Well, see, that's what I would think.
Uh-huh.
That's what I would think.
But, they, they don't look, you know, they don't wear their sweat pants or, or anything.
They're, they dress like any other teacher would in in a classroom situation, not in P E.
Right.
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Course, we had, had one coach, one period he'd teach P E and the next period Health and then a period of P E
Those I can understand.
and, and that's hard.
Yeah.
You know, so he just left warm-ups on,
but, but, uh, no,
I think, really probably, they could, they could, uh, really,
and I don't know if, if they put, make uniforms the thing for the kids,
I guess the teachers will have to follow suit with a dark skirt and a white top
and,
I don't think we'll ever get to that.
You don't think so.
No,
I don't think.
I think we're going the opposite direction.
It's the parochial schools that I guess many
they've had uniforms for years,
I don't really know if they still do.
Well, some of them, yes they do
and, and it's not at some of the private schools,
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It certainly makes it easier to dress.
but even there's a couple public schools in Dallas where, where the kids wear uniforms and the teachers, you know, dress in accordance with that.
Uh-huh.
Well, it's certainly cheaper and easier in the long run, I think, that you don't have to be concerned about your wardrobe.
Uh-huh.
Well I, I think it would make a difference at school.
I, I don't think we should be spending time saying somebody's wearing torn clothing or wearing too shorts, too short
or they've got the really short skirt and the black nylons and the high, you know,
I mean it's a lot of trouble to, to take care of that.
Uh-huh.
And, of course, the kids say, then why bother, just let me wear what I want.
And, and yet we can't to that either.
I'd like to see them go to, to not necessarily a uniform, but saying that they've got to wear a button down shirt. You know,
that would, that would alleviate any T-shirts with sayings on them.
But if they could wear a button-down shirt and a pair of dark slacks and they could buy them anywhere they wanted
and,
Yeah,
but I doubt that that would come that that will come about.
And then the girls,
Just
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Right.
Yeah,
I, I,
I don't,
no,
not in Plano.
No
not,
They may get
Yeah.
but they said in the Dallas schools that that helps their educational process there.
Well, I think it does.
It, it takes their minds off of, of trying to compete.
Highland Park's thinking about going that route.
Uh-huh.
So it,
and then I think that's going to push teachers to dress a lot more professionally than they do.
Yeah,
I, I don't think a lot of teachers are very professional
but,
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Yeah,
I agree with you on,
Hi,
good morning.
Good morning.
Do you have recycling in Sachse?
Yes,
we do.
We've got, uh, a pickup twice a week that they come out
Do,
and, they have their own special bin that they hand it out to everybody
and they take it.
Oh really?
Uh-huh.
And it's twice a week?
Uh-huh.
Really?
We have, recently started, uh, a bin program here in Plano where, uh,
used to be we, we put all of our trash in green bags and the trash men came out twice a week and picked up.
And now they have, uh, these large green containers
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and you have to put your trash that you don't recycle in there.
And then they haven't started curbside recycling yet,
but they're, but they're planning on doing it very soon.
Apparently the trucks that they had, um, lined up, they needed the parts for, Saudi Arabia
Oh.
And so that put off the program for a while.
But, uh, do you recycle?
Um, my kids do
Do they?
Uh-huh.
Put it that way.
They, they've been recycling cans for extra money.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
So that's, that's been their summer money
and they're fixing to go to Disneyland.
So,
Oh, well
So,
that's great.
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Yeah.
Well that's the way we started too.
My daughter was going, to Camp Goddard, um, which is through the Plano school system, you know in the fall couple of years ago
Uh-huh.
and she had to earn money for it
and she was too young to baby-sit.
So, that's how she started.
She started recycling cans
and from there we now recycle glass and newspapers and, uh, aluminum cans and plastics.
Really?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh
Is, is that the same way as with the aluminum cans where you go
and they, weigh it or whatever
and,
No,
the only thing we get paid for are the aluminum cans.
Um.
Um, the rest of it we just do because my husband has become hooked on recycling.
And so, you know, we don't get paid for that
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but that's okay.
Yeah.
You know, it's, it's not that much of a bother really.
You just have to rinse out your bottles or whatever
and we use a lot of, two liter bottles. Um, and like milk cartons and things like that.
It's amazing how much plastic you generate.
Yeah,
I was amazed at how many cans that we got
Yeah.
Yeah.
because when the kids first went down, I said, that, you know that's great
and I was thinking, you know maybe I'd help supplement it, you know when they turned them in
Uh-huh.
but it's amazing how many cans you go through. And how fast they accumulate.
Yeah
it really is.
Well all that stuff
and how much, how much we have reduced our waste. You know, that we, we're generating a week.
Uh-huh.
Um, I know our neighbors, when we first went to this bin program said, oh, there's no way, you know we're going to have to have pickup twice a week.
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They were real upset
but they weren't, they were only picking up once a week.
And we said to them, if you recycle, you'll, you know, you'll go two weeks without having to put out the green container.
Yeah.
And, uh, it's, it's really amazing.
The other thing he does, that my husband a real stickler about is we don't collect our grass clippings.
Really.
No.
He, he got a little mulcher thing.
Uh-huh.
It's just a little attachment for the lawn mower
and we mow once a week.
You know, no, no more often then that.
And then the clippings just get mulched up and then just lay on the, on, on, the, uh, the lawn.
And it's amazing,
it's amazing.
We don't collect any of that
and that, that has cut down a lot in what we throw out.
Yeah,
we don't we don't catch it either, mainly because my husband rarely has time to mow the yard.
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So, if it mows, gets mowed, I do it normally.
Uh-huh.
And I can't mow the yard with the grass catch on it.
It's too heavy.
Yeah.
So I just I just mow it and leave it.
Yeah.
It just soaks in.
Sure it does.
Sure it does.
It really does
and it,
actually they say that you're wasting fertilizer if you're not, uh, if you're catching your grass clippings.
Uh-huh.
That, that's that much fertilizer you have to use because it does fertilize the lawn.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I like it better doing it.
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