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and that was pretty much it. And they had like three or four basic packages that they they offer. Yeah. Sounds like the Lincoln Mercury dealer I used to work for. They didn't order anything but the extra luxury version of whatever they got. Little Mercury Tracer Yeah, I've been I've been, imagine, or not, they make a, they make a luxury Mercury Tracer. Yeah, I've seen that in the dealership. I was driving a Lincoln, a Mark Seven for the last four years before I traded it for this Yeah. and, uh, I'm leasing the Lexus. I usually lease them since I own a business Yeah. I just run it through my business, but but it, Uh-huh.
the Lincoln ride is certainly good, too, but the, this Lexus is nothing like I have ever been in before. *one or two utt? It's just, Like sitting in your living room. Yeah, it really is, and it's got a lumbar support in the seats. Adjustable? Adjustable, uh power Yeah and just kind of brings that support up in the tell me what you think about the Vietnam war. Okay. Well, I'm a Vietnam era veteran, and, uh, I was, uh, fortunate not to have to serve in the theater, however, my support roll in the service was to support those in the theater of operation. Uh, I'm of the old school that believes that, uh, the, uh, uh, contracts that we made back years ago needed to be honored. However, uh, I think we could have executed the war and gotten it over a whole lot quicker. Uh, but those are my personal thoughts, and I think that if we'd let the generals run the war like we let the generals run World War Two we'd had got it over a whole lot quicker and lost a lot fewer people. But as it was, the politicians ran the, the Korean conflict and ultimately the Vietnam thing,
and we managed to come out, uh, losers all the way around. And so this is what ultimately triggered us, uh, United States, uh, per se, being, uh, deciding to get out of the role of world policeman. Your views, Uh, as I understand it, and I, uh, don't know a lot about it, uh, we got in there because of France Well. uh, France was there first. They had, We got into it because of SEATO agreement, back just right after World War Two that, uh, we pledged a mutual, uh, uh, defense of, of the South Vietnamese, and as it turned out they were in a civil war one with another, and really we I, I question us, you know, now, of course hindsight is all too clear. Sure. Uh, so, we're, we, we have to, have to deal with, with the, uh, situation as, as we played it. Jerry, what did you think of people like, uh, Jane Fonda, another war anti-war activist. I, don't get me started on those people. You know, before she, before Jane Fonda did, did what she did, I thought she was a wonderful person, but after, uh, uh, well, I, I just don't have anything, want anything to do with her any more,
because you support, uh, you support your government. Right or wrong? Uh, okay, right or wrong, I don't think is, is, we can determine whether we were right or wrong, because, you're, you're having to deal with, again, uh, I think we could have made a different agreement back in the the late forties era that would have kept of there. Uh-huh. Uh, you know, I, I didn't realize that we'd signed some type of deal like that. I thought we came in as first advisors to the French, and then they decided to pull out and, Can you hold just a second, Terry? Sure. One moment please. Sure to someone else or Wonder what happens to this little beastie on call waiting or something. Huh, fascinating. Well that's not, Sorry for the delay. That's okay.
Uh, yeah, this is, the, uh, the, the, uh, mutual defense thing was, uh, we, we, it was complicated, and I don't think everybody knows the whole situation. I don't. But from what I can gather, is we went and said yeah, we will help the South Vietnamese, uh, should they ask. Well, the French went in and tried their old style warfare, and, uh, got soundly thrashed. And we didn't do a whole lot better. Um. No, I had thought that they had, uh, colonies there, or something. Well, yeah, that was the old French colony, but see, the French, the French were our, uh, allies in NATO Right. and they're also our allies in SEATO, which was the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization, which has since been, uh, disbanded as far as I know, you know, NATO is, is on the way of being disbanded. Uh, but, uh, the, you know, the French, yeah we go in as an ally to the French and says yeah, we'll, we'll help you out, if you get in a bind. Well, they got in a bind and says we don't want to, you know, play any more
Uh-huh. so, uh, we, we kind of, we kind of got, got the ball rolling ourselves versus a bunch of top secret silly uh, um, oh, operations and then the full scale, you know, full scale troops, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, I'm thirty-two, so, uh, I well, I missed it. Seventy-four is when they quit sending troops. Uh, yeah, yeah roughly. Yeah. I was just probably three or four years, Okay, uh, what kind of hobbies do you have Lori? Uh, I guess, I, uh, I like to play golf. Uh-huh. And, uh, I also like to plant flowers and do do some gardening and do arts and crafts. Uh-huh. Where do you play golf in this area? Well, we live, uh, pretty close, to the Mesquite Golf Course.
Uh-huh. So, we will play either out there or at Firewheel. That is usually where we play, but I have played you know different courses in in the Dallas area. Do you, uh, do you ride or do you pull a cart when you play golf? Uh, both Oh. Not at the same time. I was going to say, that could be difficult No, sometimes we ride and sometimes, uh, we, pull, we like to, to, uh, a lot of the times just walk, uh, for the exercise. But Uh-huh. I find that when I ride in a cart, I play better and I think it is cause I don't get as tired I think that might be true. Yeah. I don't like pulling a cart on Firewell golf course because they want you to pull the cart on the path. I know,
and that makes me so mad You know, it is like it is not going to do that much damage to the course, but apparently they think differently That is the reason, I don't play over there. Yeah. I like the course, but I don't play over there because, you, they don't, uh, you know don't allow you to pull a cart. Right. And, I don't think a cart damages the turf. Right. Well, the reason why we play over there is because its where, since we are a Garland resident, they gave us a special deal where you can get, uh, ten rounds of golf for a hundred dollars, yeah, a hundred dollars cause it is half price what the normal green fees are. Uh-huh. So that is why we you know play over there cause we have got our card Well, I guess I could use a card too. I live, uh, very near, uh, very close to the Firewheel Golf Course. Oh, do you? So you live in Garland then. Yes,
I live in northwest Garland. Right up there near the golf course. Okay, well we are in south Garland, but yeah, next time you go, uh, you know, check into it, they have, uh, it is just like, uh, a bus card and they just punch it. You know, it has got one through ten on it and every time you go they just punch it for you. Well, in the last two years, I have not played very much golf because I am involved in Boy Scouts. Oh, okay. So, I have, uh, I have, uh, I have children Boy Scout age. You must have a, a son. I have two boys that are boy scout age, and, uh, so I am very active in Boy Scouts Oh, okay. so I would have to say that camping and hiking and canoeing and Boy Scouts is my hobby. Yeah. But I
Oh well that sounds like fun too but my golf clubs will probably rust before I get to use them again because my boys are still right at the beginning age and it is probably going to be six to eight years before they go to college. Uh-huh. Well, you need to, uh, teach them how to play and take them out on the course with you That's right. Lessons are expensive though. Oh, yeah. Well you can teach them Well, they would probably never make it then because I don't think, uh, I only took lessons for golf when I was in college. Uh-huh. Uh, as a course for P E you know so I could graduate. Right, Right. Uh-huh. But, uh, that is the only time I think I have ever really taken golf lessons and that was kind of a group scenario and not individual.
Uh-huh. Right. Right. I took one lesson one other time. Besides that, uh, I just, uh, try to make the club hit the ball. Right. Yeah, I know what you mean I don't want to play strike out, you know. Uh-huh. But I have fun doing it, some, uh, you know, I have some good shots and some bad shots. Oh yeah. It, it is just nice to get outdoors and do something. So you said you work, uh, in the gardens too. Do you have, uh, a special flowers? Well flower gardens. I like to have, matter of fact this past weekend I just got finished planting a bunch of tulips and daffodil bulbs. So, those ought to be coming up around spring time
My wife had, uh, just put in a bunch of, I want to say, they are pansies. Uh-huh. She put them in like two months ago cause they are winter plants. Right. And they have been, we thought even with all the cold weather weather we have had they have been blooming just fine. Oh, they do great. I put mine in probably in November. That is when she did, I think. Yeah, I think it was November and I don't do anything to mine, water them or anything And they just, they do really good and I even had, uh, I guess it was last year or the year before, I had some out and it froze and the pansies looked terrible, but they came back later. I didn't do anything to them so they are, uh, they are good to plant in the winter time. They last for a long time then.
So, if you start putting them, you know, you can put them out in the spring too, but once it starts getting real hot then it just kills them cause they can't stand the hot weather. Uh-huh. Do they survive longer if you plant them in the winter time? Will they make it through the summer sun? No, they won't make it through the summer because it gets too hot, but they make it through probably winter and spring. So, Well. Yeah, I have got some of those too, cause I love flowers Well, that is good. Yeah. And I do, I try to do some arts and crafts and I love to go, So you have a child Uh-huh. Yeah we,
Two year old daughter in child care and we went through the process of searching for child care and uh, finding what we consider to be, real good child care at a, uh, pretty reasonable price, we think. Uh, How about you, do you have any children? Yes, our first and he just turned three months. Oh, boy. So, we're just starting into hunting for child care. Yeah. Right now, both of us are students. Are you? Where are a student? Uh, Uh, University of Southern Mississippi. No kidding. Uh, she's, I was a professor in a university here in California for a while. Yeah.
Yeah, uh, are you going to, uh, put your son in child care in a, a year or two? Uh, probably. Uh, actually spring semester a year from now he's going to have to be in child care uh, five days a week more than likely. Uh, depending on how my class schedule runs Yeah. because my wife will be doing her internship that semester. Uh-huh. It will be forty hour week, not, no, eight to five type of thing. Yeah. So depending on what my class schedule looks like, he may spend four, anywhere from four to eight hours a day in child care at that point. Right now we're trying to avoid it, but we just, as a matter of fact just yesterday hired a, a girl to, uh, watch him. Uh, I get out of class at certain time and my wife is already supposed to be on her way to her class. You know, once a day this overlap happens where we can't, one of us be home. Yeah. Yeah. So for about twenty twenty, thirty minutes a day we got a baby-sitter comes in. Well, that's a good experience, I think, and, uh, there are a lot of things to think about
and the articles that are written on the topic, are pretty good and they kind of boil down to, uh, any other important decision you really have to explore the alternative Uh-huh and what we found, uh, to be the best guide was our own instincts about, people who were going to be loving Yeah. and, uh, that's more important than anything else. We could have sent, uh, her to a fancier, uh, facility. Uh-huh. Uh, she goes to a home. This is a, uh, a couple, uh, emigrated from China early in, in their lives. Uh-huh. They've been here probably thirty, forty years. Yeah. They've got three daughters. Uh, and, they have a loving home and, uh, they're both there and they have a kid that comes in and helps them in the afternoon. Uh-huh. And our daughter is healthy, happy, well adjusted and enjoys going to see her friends,
Yeah. so it's a good experience. Uh, that makes a big difference. I if it's good, I think it's very good for the child. Yes. And if it's, a loving environment, I think it's very good and, and that's really what we've learned about it. She'll have to go on to something more stimulating in terms of preschool in a year Yeah. but, uh, we feel real fortunate and we were able to, uh, just, uh, choose in the marketplace. I don't know what it's like around, uh, Hattiesburg. There's a lot of child care available, but invariably there's waiting lists. Uh-huh. Yeah. And we were a little slow getting on the waiting list with the, uh, okay, the university, uh, university's, uh uh, department of, uh, uh, their Home Ec Department Yeah. I'll bet they're involved.
Yeah. uh, they, uh, they have a subbranch, uh, American Family Counseling and their people staff this, this, uh, the child care center just off campus. But, uh, they have a pretty good size waiting list. Yeah So, Well, that's, uh, I know it's, it's a real hard thing to do, even for people in, in, uh, university communities. Uh-huh. Out here at Manford, they have a, you know, a, a, a real good facility and there, uh, is quite a waiting list to get into that. Yeah. So it's, uh, uh, you know, it's a, it's a, it's an important, decision, it's an industry that's still a cottage industry Yeah. Yeah, and I think this is really is buyer beware. Well, it is the best way to do it, interestingly. a cottage industry's the best way to do it really, because if you over, I think that, uh, my own interest in, in development, human development leads me to believe that that's a good sign and that, uh, private enterprise is the way to go and that it will lead to a fundamental change in the way we learn. Uh-huh.
Yeah. Yeah. Because, I think what we're going to go to is much more commercial entrepreneurial learning ventures in the market. As a matter of fact, my future is banked on that, uh, professionally because I believe that, that there are, uh, pressing needs in the marketplace, unmet by schools, colleges universities for, uh, learning a lot of things that kids can learn watching Sesame Street and in child care. Uh-huh. Primary skills which turn out to be the most important skills in life. Yes. And it's amazing how much good things like, uh, Sesame Street will do. It's, it's phenomenal. It's phenomenal, the programming, the human operating system, favorite type of music or musician or any. I don't really have a favorite type. I like, uh, a lot of different types of music. Do you? Yeah, I have a, a tape collection that I like to listen to, uh, cassette tapes Uh-huh. but it's pretty varied. Uh-huh. Yeah.
How about you? Oh, I, I'm very, uh, I'm very varied as well. I, uh, I don't think I've ever met a type of music I don't like except for, uh, maybe, you know, heavy metal and that. That's exactly me. The acid rock or the heavy metal. Yeah. Even some of that I like okay but not, mostly, as a general rule, Yeah. I don't care for that at all. Yeah. I don't enjoy rap too much, either. That, that doesn't appeal to, uh, my ears. Well, as far as the rap goes, I think there are a few artists that appeal to me themselves Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and I like some of their songs. Oh. But as, as I agree, with the general rule, I, I wouldn't choose rap either. Uh-huh.
But I, I like to listen to, uh, what you might call pop, easy listening country western, jazz uh, classical, um, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I, I don't, I like, uh, like I said, pretty varied, uh, music. Uh-huh. I have a couple that my husband really hates that I listen to, like Billy Holiday Oh I really love to listen to her, Uh-huh. and, uh, I even have a, a tape of Lady Smith Blackman Bazo Oh, gosh. and, well, I mean, they're very harmonic Uh-huh they really are. uh-huh, yeah, sure. So, they're interesting to listen to. You might try that.
How about you? Well, um, I listen to, uh, specific, most, most likely I would be listen to, uh, jazz or classical music. Um I, in college I took, uh, four years of classical guitar, and I played in the, in the jazz combo all four years. I play guitar for the jazz combo. Oh, yeah? So, uh, that's where my two, my two listening enjoyments are, but, you know, jazz can get on my nerves after a while. Uh, you can't just listen to it, you know, to, uh, especially a lot of the deeper stuff, Yeah, unless, unless you're playing it, *sv It's too, um, uh, you have to concentrate on it, it seems. it just, it just doesn't do anything. What about the blues or something like that? Uh, uh, blues are okay. I, I tell you, I do like, um, I grew up on blue grass music. My dad is a big blue grass fan, and so Uh-huh.
um, I wouldn't have admitted it when I was in high school but, I really do like it a lot. So. I, I like some of it, um, as far as like the what they now call country western, it doesn't sound like the old country music at all, does it? *two utts?? No, it doesn't, it doesn't. Um, some of it sounds more like pop music. Yeah, uh they've all got, you know, the real screechy electric guitars now. Oh, yeah, If I'm going to listen to today's country western, I have tapes of like Randy Travis and Clint Black Yeah. and I even liked Jim Reeves you know Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, I, I, yeah, Uh-huh.
or, uh, what, what Merle Haggard and Faron Young Uh-huh. that type of country western is what I, I like to listen to. Uh, Sons of the Pioneers, you know, stuff like that. *all caps for titles Sure. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Um, oh, I like sound tracks a lot. Oh, do you? Yeah, it seems like you get a lot of original music that way. Yeah, you sure do. I mean, you know, think about like the Twin Peaks and stuff like that that's just real recent Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. things like that I like to listen to. Um, I like instrumental things. Uh-huh.
Um, I have some Spiro Gyro tapes. Oh, they're great aren't they. Oh, they're wonderful. Yeah. I love them. I have some dulcimer music. I mean, like I said, that, that's pretty varied. Yeah, it sure is, yeah. Al Jarreau, he's somebody I like. He's pretty, kind of jazz inspired but but still kind of pop, too. Uh-huh. Yeah, I like his, he has a nice smooth voice. Oh, yeah, and, you know, what I like the most about him, is, I've gone to see him in concert, and he always, he looks like he's having fun. Yeah, sure.
I mean, some people sing, and they have their faced all contorted, like it hurts them or something But he looks like he's having a good time. I mean, he's up there moving around and smiling like he's happy and, and like all he wants to do is, is make the audience enjoy it, too. Uh-huh. Sure. And he, he is real fun to listen to. Uh-huh. Um, Bonnie Rait, I like her a lot. Uh-huh. Um, in fact, whenever she won her big Grammy Uh-huh. I think it was like five of them or something Uh-huh. was, was it five, or. Yeah, something like that, it was last, last, last year wasn't it. Yeah,
last year or the year before, I can't remember, but, um, I was listening to a particular radio station and, and the one D J said, who the heck is Bonnie Rait and why does she deserve five Grammies? Well, I vowed then that I was not going to listen to that radio station any more, if that D J can make such a Okay. Okay, well, Mark, our situation is that we do have a daughter that is, uh, in the situation of choosing college. Uh-huh. She's actually at Bible College for this current year. Uh-huh. And, uh, I guess uh, first and foremost, it, really it's a question of what the student wants to have in the way of a career and then, uh, uh, which colleges or universities can best offer that program, and then it comes down to the dollar. You have to, uh, it's whether or not you're a resident for that jurisdiction, you know, it does, *sv Uh-huh. it comes down to, uh trying to come with a trade off of the costs. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, what do you feel about come of the things that need to, Damn it , I agree with pretty much with everything you've said.
Uh, the one, the one thing that I, you know, I'd advise any parent, uh, you know, or any, or any person looking for a college, uh, is that I think, I think, you know, it's really important for them to actually visit the college and actually try and get away from, you know, the guided tour of the college and try and talk to the, you know, actual students there because, you know, they're just, uh, in my experience, I've talked to people at other colleges, uh, that, you know, the, the, the way, the, you know, the, the, the lifestyle pictured in the catalogs isn't always the whole story. No, the, the college, the, the catalogs are sales material. Uh-huh. It doesn't matter whether, you know, they're, they're selling school. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And, uh, and, true, it, uh, really is helpful if a parent and the student can get there and see the real character of the school and the real life experiences of the school. Uh-huh. Uh, I guess there's a difference in, here the, at least, the university here in Saskatoon is primarily, uh, off campus resident students. Like, they just live in the community. Uh-huh. Uh, you know, I know that there are a lot of colleges and universities, particularly as they get to be a little bit on the smaller side where dormitory life is, uh, is right on campus as well
Uh-huh. and that, you know, that changes the character of it quite a bit. Uh-huh. Yeah, I, I go to Georgia Tech which is, you know, primarily an engineering school Uh-huh. and, uh, you know, I think I really do miss the fact, you know, that it's not a university, that there's, there's not, the, the, you know, it tends to be a very conservative school and there, and there doesn't seem to be the diversity of views that a lot of, you know, universities will, will have. Yeah. Uh, I guess we're here, this is the university that has, for years had the, the car, that, uh, will travel the farthest on, uh, on a small quantity of gas, *utt 3 & 4 one utt?? our engineering students. Uh-huh. Uh, in competitions and that's the kind of thing that also you see, uh, if you can see the kinds of achievements that have been made by students as well as graduates can give you idea of the character of the school. Uh-huh. Uh, whether you, you know, in one sense, whether you've got a spirit of innovation and excellence or whether you've got a, a spirit of, somewhat unkind, but producing graduates. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Uh, you know, as sort of some development and some training, uh, like it's easy enough to crank out graduates, but to really challenge them Uh-huh. and, uh, and that can vary between colleges, and faculties even, as to how, you know, what the attitude towards achievement is. Uh-huh. Uh, do you, uh, have anyone that you're seriously needing to, uh, feed information to? I suppose if you're actually at Georgia Tech as a student, you're a ways away from that. Yeah, uh, I don't really know of anyone that's like that's looking for colleges now, you know, because it, with the exception of, uh, people's younger brothers and sisters. Then the only advise passed down is, don't go to Georgia Tech Uh, but, uh, no, actually I'm, I'm, I'm more interested in, in, in choosing the right job when you graduate type information Right. Well, that's, that's one of the, really, a valid point that people need to consider as well. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, you know, to, going to college, university is going to take four to eight years depending on the programs person's involved in Program. and after that, you have to be out in the real world and have to be able to support yourself
Uh-huh. and if you go in an area that there is just not much of a job market Uh-uh. jeez, if that's, Uh-huh, like a fine arts education, I, Right. Best training in the world is not going to put food on your table. Uh-huh. But, uh, You have any pets? Do I have pets? Yeah. Yes, I have a cat and I have two dogs. Two dogs, what kind?
I have a Schnauzer and I have a Sheltie. Schnauzers. Is it a miniature or a standard Schnauzer? It, it's a miniature. Uh. I'm going into all this because I used to I just got done working at a pet shop actually. Uh-huh. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, the Schnauzer I'm, I'm watching for one of, uh, the managers where I work and he's been transferred to Germany for a while Uh. and I'm taking care of his dog and, uh, and I had just got the kitten when he asked me that and he says, well, my dog doesn't like cats, and I said, well, we won't tell him it's a we won't tell her it's a cat, because it was a kitten, and, you know, they just, they just love kittens. Yeah. They just are fascinated. Oh, yeah.
So she doesn't know that this is a cat yet. That's good. They say , And they get along real good. I said if Tom could see dog lick this kitty, he'd flip. *listen So that was interesting. Didn't expect that would happen. Yeah, that's cool, that's nice. Uh, let's see, what was the other dog you had? It's a sheltie. Oh, a sheltie. She's real sweet little dog. She's got a very nice temperament. Uh, they're not as aggressive as a Schnauzer. Yeah. You know, the Schnauzers are a little aggressive. They can be nippy.
Uh-huh. Yeah, shelties are nice. Everybody seems to be really happy with them. They're good temperament. They're a good temperament They put up with a lot. and they, and they just, uh, they, I think they have a good head on their shoulders. I think they have a, a higher level of intelligence than other, uh, dogs that I have encountered. Schnauzers, in particular probably. Well, yeah, but also some poodles, uh Oh, yeah. they're kind of, there are some smart ones out there, but there's some also some, uh, not so smart ones Yeah, I
it seems the smaller the are, the, the worse off they are Yeah, that's, that's, maybe that's, there's, uh, some credence in that statement. Yeah, they're bred down so much. It's, Uh-huh. They aren't the best pets. I, I'd, I really don't know what the best pet is. Yeah. I guess it's up to the individual and how they relate to their animal. And bull dogs Yeah, I mean, some people seem fairly well suited for for, uh, miniature poodles and such. But I don't know about these, uh, these, uh, uh, these pincers, these, now, what are they called. Pit bulls, pit bulls that are so vicious. Pit bull. They might, they're actually very friendly dogs. Are they really? I don't think I've ever seen one. Uh, they're really nice.
I, I've dealt with quite a few of them. People, uh, customers that bring them into the shop and ask me like, they, uh, fit collars and stuff on them and they are, they are just really nice, really friendly, uh, kind of like medium intelligence. Uh, Well, how do they become how did they get their reputation, then? Well, because some people, uh, want to train them as, Oh, they train them to be that way, then. Yeah. Oh, okay. You really can't get a pit bull from birth that's that way. Oh, okay. Yeah, it takes a lot of training and a lot of abuse to get a dog to really respond. Oh, dear, so the the poor animal is doing it in self protection. Right. Oh, dear. Yeah, they aren't, they aren't by nature really nasty critters. They are very determined critters
Uh-huh. and so once you get them going, it's not good to to deal with, but, they, I, I really like them. *two utts? I was, I was impressed by them. They're, they're real sturdy little critters and they aren't that big. And, uh, just really friendly. Uh-huh. Well, that's unusual. I was, I was overwhelmed. I, Huh, well, I suppose you were surprised. Yeah. After the reputation that, you know Yeah, right now, they have quite an, uh, uh, notable reputation as far as, you know, They picked up a lot of bad press lately. Yeah, they're banned from, in some areas I understand. Well, yeah. Uh-huh.
But, any, any, any pet's going to, can, can be bad if you train it to be that way. You know, that, they must have just targeted that breed and said, boy, we're going Well, yeah, it's, when, in my hometown, they just outlawed ferrets because they had one incident of a ferret, uh, attacking a a child in a house. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Uh-huh. I mean, these people had left this infant in the same room with this loose ferret. The, the ferret is used to running the house and was kind of wild Uh-huh. and, you know, they should expect something like that to happen. And so now it's like ferrets are outlawed in the town. Oh, did it attack the child, then? Yeah, it, it bit him. Uh-huh. And that was, that was not a good thing,
but I think it was probably a, an individual ferret thing, because it was it was a fairly wild ferret. Well, the the people that owned him should have been on the lookout for that. Sure, Hadn't, they hadn't, Yeah, I mean they really should have, should have expected it. And taken the precautions. They didn't. yeah. It's too bad it happened, though. Yeah, because then the, the animal's in trouble, and not the person. Right. Go ahead Uh, have you every been tested for a new job or anything? Uh, no I haven't. But, in my job, I'm a nurse, and we are allowed to be. I mean, you know, this is the rules that they can do this anytime. Uh, I don't know of anyone who ever has been picked out and been tested. So it's just sort of, uh, they can if they,
They can if they choose to. Oh, okay. Right. Have you, well have you had any experience with it at all? Uh, not really but I've always worked on a university level but a lot of my friends had to be tested before they got summer jobs and stuff. Uh-huh. So what do you think about that? Uh, I don't, I don't think they're very accurate because, I mean, I know their lifestyles changed prior to the drug test and I know they changed afterwards. Right, right. See I know of that too. And I also know that things like antihistamines, Sudafeds, things like that, can really throw it off. And you cannot get a job because of it Uh-huh. Yeah, I, I had a friend, it didn't cause her any problems with her job
but it came back that she tested positive for using a hallucinogen. But what it was, was she had been she had been, uh, in the jungle and it was some Malaria medication and she tested positive for that. See, and so it really is a dangerous thing that way because I know of somebody that tested for an airline and didn't get the job and they weren't told why. But a lot of people say the reason why, after you take a physical, will be because of the drug testing or they would tell you. Or this person never use any drugs. See, I always, I thought they got, you got called back if you tested positive, for more tests. Uh, you should. Because you should be given another chance or at least be able to justify it or something. I have real mixed feelings about it. I don't know. How, do you know how wrong they are? Are they, I mean, is there a margin of error? The accuracy? I don't know.
I don't know. But, I know there are a lot of things that can influence them and I think that a person deserves a second chance with it or something because most things will stay in your system for a long time. Yeah. And if you could show that, I, I interviewed for a job recently and I was taking Entex. And my doctor gave me a prescription for it. Uh-huh. And he said this way if it were to make the drug test positive, you have proof that your doctor ordered this for you, you know. And it didn't come up that I needed to do it but this could happen to anybody and if they would just say oh, this person's drug test is positive we won't hire them you know. Then you could lose out on a job when really you didn't do anything. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. And I, I'm not so sure they are that needed. *b Yeah, I'm not sure either. The only way I can see it is that if they really suspect a person of using it, then they have the right to go ahead and prove it because they say they can spot check.
if you're using it while at a job, I can see a problem. Yeah. But the occasional person, then it's almost like, it's almost an infringement of your privacy. Well, it sort of is. And this is it, this, I'm not real sure how I feel about it because I can see it from two ways. You know, as a health professional, I wouldn't want somebody to take care of me that was using drugs. Yeah. You know, so as a patient, I feel well, yeah, we probably should be protected. But, on the other hand, there's a lot of things I should be protected from that they don't test my patients for too. So you know, I guess you sort of, you have to have trust some place along the way. Yeah. You can't go around testing everybody for everything. Yeah So, I don't know. And I, I think it could be used to hassle somebody. If someone was out to get you, I think that a company or a boss could use this. You know, they could keep on doing this to you or something, I guess. I can see where it could become a problem.
And it, it's like, it seems like now they have tests I guess they can test your hair and they can find out if you use drugs up to several years ago. Really. maybe you shouldn't be held responsible for something you did several years ago. *sv So, I know. That's the other thing. I mean a lot of, a lot of people as kids or, you know, young people get into some things that they get out of later on and I don't think they should really have to pay for that forever. Yeah. There's a lot of things you do as a kid that you wouldn't do as an adult Yeah. but you can't say it was wrong at the time. I think that's true. Yeah, yeah. So that probably wouldn't be too good either. How many children do you have now? Well I have five. You have five?
Right. Well you do have a hard time finding time then don't you? Well, five are, I mean four of them are grown, they're in college or just out of college so I really have just a thirteen year old at home. Uh-huh. You sound so young. Well, I work at it All right To have them, uh, I try to fool everybody I think you're doing a good job. I just have one child. Uh-huh. And, uh, I don't think, uh, well there's not much I can do about it. My, my wife and I are, in our forties, you know, so, uh Uh-huh. but it's hard to raise one child without them thinking they're the, they're the pivot point of the universe.
I think you are right because I was an only child too. And that's one reason I have so many because I really, I enjoy the big family. Yeah. And my thirteen year old is pretty separate from her brother and sisters and so she is sort of like an only child and it's the same type of thing, uh, Uh-huh. I have a younger brother like that. I'm in my forties, like I say and I have a brother in his twenties. Uh-huh. And I was, I was the youngest. Yeah. So I understand how that worked. And he was treated like he had five fathers or something. Right. That's exactly how it is, you know. She's got all these sisters and her brother to take care of her. When things don't go right, she just calls one of them, you know.
Yeah. But, uh, yeah, it, it's a little bit difficult, though. I think it was easier when they all had each other and could entertain each other and I was home more. And, Did you all do a lot of organized things like, uh, Little League, uh, soccer? We, we really did not. My next oldest daughter that's in college in California is a world twirling champion. She twirls a baton and we did a lot of things together. Uh-huh. She and I did a lot of things together and flew, we have flown all over the world for her to compete and to perform. Uh-huh. And that was a lot of fun. But that, that, I guess you could consider that organized. I mean, there is a competition all the time. Yeah. We were very heavy into that. Other than that, they were pretty much,
and maybe dancing school for a while or mainly school sports and things like that. You know, I think that's probably true. The, if you have one child or fewer, you get involved in organized events or activities Uh-huh. and if you have a large number of children or, then you don't. Well, you can't afford to. No, you and there's not enough time, uh Right. like my son is in, uh, Little League this year. He's ten. And they practice three times a week and they have a game and it's just, uh, if there were more than one child, I don't know, there would be no way to do it. Right. That's right. You know, one parent go one direction and I'd have to go in the other and we could only cover two at that.
Uh-huh. Yeah. Well I know I spent hours in the gym every day with my daughter and my little one also competed because really she had no choice. She had to go with me. Uh-huh. So the three of us just spent a lot of time traveling and, and competing and, of course, the competing itself, really didn't matter what it was, it was making the friends and going all the places and it was a really neat experience, but it took our total time. I did not work, uh, when I did this. Now I do work full-time. Uh-huh. And it's just, my thirteen year old and myself and so we really have to keep it together to get just her activities in and still have time to spend with each other. So , I don't think, although I think a, a, more than one child, probably three children is probably the ideal to me but I'm not sure I could afford three.
I most certainly couldn't educate three. I don't know how my, my parents did it. Yeah. I mean, there were five of us and I don't recall, you know, wanting anything in particular. Uh, but I don't know how my father did it. He worked at a truck line and he just didn't make that kind of money with five children. But we did okay. We had a house and a home and, but now, my wife and I both work and we don't, I don't believe we have as much as my parents did and we only have one child. Really? Uh-huh. Well, things cost a lot more. I don't know how it is in Georgia Huh. and I don't think our part of the country is particularly bad compared to some. Atlanta is horrible.
Is it? Yes. we have a lot of people moving here from Boston and, and different areas and from talking to them, they're shocked. Really? and they, you know, the housing is so cheap in comparison to Boston that they jump on it. Right. That's what I've heard. They sell their house, they stash away a good bit of money and come down here and I work with a lot of them, they, they think they, they have really done something. Then when they get down here, they realize the cost of living is outrageous compared to, to where they came from. Huh. Yeah. The housing is cheaper, but that's about it. I'm surprised to hear that. I've heard very positive things about Atlanta,
Oh so , Okay. I'm not as ashamed to claim them this year as I have been so Well, it, let's put it this way. We've got the New England Patriots up here so. Oh yeah. Right. Well, They've had some serious problems in the past couple of years. Really? Yeah. Why? Um, well, uh, partly due to ownership. You know, uh, Victor Kiam owned the, uh, the Patriots uh, for a period of a number of years Uh-huh. and he always had this, uh, this wonderful quality of being able to put his foot in his mouth every time he went to say something and, uh, they've had some financial problems with the team and so forth. And it recently was sold to, uh, some other people so, hopefully, this ownership can set up new direction and, uh, keep, uh, the Patriots in the New England area anyways
Yeah. Well it will be fun for you to watch up there anyway to see what happens now you, Oh, yeah. I've been to a couple, I've been to a few games before. Uh-huh. Now you, you're, you're from Texas. Right. So you've got two football teams down there. Well, it depends on where you're from in Texas. I live right by Dallas so we have one football team as far as we're concerned Uh-huh. Oh, I see. That's how it is. There's that type of segregation, huh? It's divided, yeah. Wow! It really is, so we've got our Cowboys here and and, uh, I don't think anybody roots differently
Uh-huh. but I have a boyfriend that lives in Fresno Do you, and he is for the L, the, uh, Raiders. L A Raiders, Uh-huh. so. Do you follow professional sports at all? Well, I just started to this year because of these silly Raiders that didn't do very well but I've been trying more this year. I think I know a little more than I use to. Yeah. I never knew very much at all so I'm trying Well, it's a good past time, you know. Yeah. Particularly football. They say, uh, football attracts more men because of the, you know, the, you see the, the physical aggression on the field and supposedly, psychologists say that, uh, that, uh, men take out their frustrations by watching football and, you know, they get together with a bunch of guys and they, uh, uh, and they have a good time and everything
and that's suppose to be some of the, uh, the male bonding and the, and the, uh, the male instincts, I guess, or something about the, uh, So I shouldn't even try to do it, huh Well, no. It, it's good as, in terms of, in terms of, uh, of a contest. Yes. I think that, uh, I personally like hockey better because it has contact, it's a contact sport. It has the speed. Right. And the hand eye coordination and it takes a certain skill to play hockey. Not everybody can play hockey. Yeah. So we, and that's, we're a big hockey area up here, I bet up here in New England as well as, you know, in, in the Minnesota area Really . but,
I don't even think we have that in Texas. What, hockey? We might. Do we? I mean, no you probably know, I don't know. No, there's no hockey, there's no Nobody talks about it so I don't think we do. There's no professional hockey teams in, in Texas No, uh-huh. And we have a soccer team that comes and goes. We don't even have that very much, so. Yeah. I think though that professional football in particular, is becoming so diluted now.
Uh-huh. Like they have this World Football League. You see, we have the N F L that, that Dallas and Houston are in and New England Patriots and L A Raiders and those teams Yeah. There are those teams that play in professional, National Football League but, uh, now they have what's called the World Football League and they have all these teams from, there's a team in London and there's a team there, there's, uh, teams, other European teams Oh. and there's teams in the United States and they're playing now during the summer months and it's really you know, overkill Oh yeah. And there's only so much football you can watch. Yeah. Well, I like to do, I don't like to watch. Yeah, that's good.
I don't like to watch anything. So it kind of annoys me when people just lay in front of a T V and watch all this stuff. I think it's an, excuse to do nothing and I, I can see what you're saying about the male bonding and the guys get together Yeah. and that's kind of cool. That's fun, you know. Uh-huh. But it can get really overdone. Now, have you ever been to a professional football game? Yeah, I have. Have you? Yeah, yeah, I have. Did you do the whole big, the whole thing, the tailgate party and the whole, Uh, no actually, no.
Well see, now see that's what you got to do, see. Now we talked our, I've done that for college football. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You, the, well the same thing. Yeah. We, we talked our wives, there's about six or eight guys that we use to go out for these games. And, uh, we talked our wives into going with us one time and they had a real good time and it was, basically, for the social atmosphere. Right. And that's the thing, you know. You go, you know three or four hours before the game. You go set up. We set a table up, we do some cooking, some barbecueing, have a few drinks and then go in and see the game and see the Patriots lose and then go home and eat, drink some more.
Yeah. But, but that whole, it, it's not so much, sure the contest itself and the game itself, Yeah. that you miss sitting home in your parlor, you know, uh, with, with a six pack of beer and some, uh, potato chips, you know That's right. you, you miss that. Yeah, that's right. And, and any professional sport I think, you miss that. Uh-huh. The atmosphere of being there, you know. Yeah. Well, in high school I went to every football game and, well, I twirled, you know. Yep. And I, you know, I didn't, I still don't know that much about football, obviously. But I still had a good time. You know, Well
think about this? Uh, do you have children in school? I do. Uh, I have two that are, uh, now just about ready to graduate from college Uh. but I also have two that are just entering school. Uh, well *sv I think they're just pushing them entirely to fast. So you see a big difference then in before and now do you or, A lot of testing? Uh, well it seems to me that kindergarten is now the equivalent of first grade. Uh-huh. My son leaves the house at seven thirty and doesn't get home until three o'clock. Uh-huh. And I think that's such a long day for a kindergartner. I do too, I, oh, I think that's awful. And, uh, I have a preschooler. Uh, I was told by her preschool teacher that she thought maybe she was to immature for kindergarten and I thought well how mature do you have to be I know.
What's the new criteria, huh. And, uh, there is a, do you have the standardized testing now? We have all kinds of testing and it's over and over. It's I T B S or, and, uh, just everything, everything. Yeah. And they test, test, test. I live in Plano actually and I don't know if you've heard of Plano but it's a very transient community. No. A lot of people from everywhere, it's just north of Dallas Uh-huh. and it's grown in leaps and bounds. I, we must have maybe a hundred and fifty thousand people now. Oh. And most of them from other places. Yeah.
Uh, J C Penney's come down from New York and, of course, T I and Xerox from Rochester and we just, have lots of people from everywhere. Lots of industry coming in, Yeah. and it's a very wealthy community. Uh, not that I am but other people seem, to be and I would love to know why but I mean they do. They have, you would like to know what they're doing right I, I would, I really would. I mean, they just have beautiful, beautiful homes and they have everything. The kids only wear name brand things to school and it's one of these things, Oh me. Well that makes it hard for you, doesn't it. Well it does, you know. It really does because I'm a single mom and I have a thirteen year old now
and uh, you know, it does. Oh, me. I mean, we do it to a point but uh, not to where she feels different, Yeah. but some of them are very rich It's hard to explain to them why you can't. and so, uh, we just kind of have, everything here and we have a very goal oriented population because their parents are. Right. And so I don't know how much of it, is us and how much of it is Texas but the kids are expected to excel in, everything. Oh, dear. And it's almost impossible because you have so many children and just so many activities that everybody can't be first and they're expected to be. Right. You know, their parents expect it, the teachers expect it, Texas wants very badly to be considered tops in the school system Right
and if you read national surveys, they're far from it. And so there's just a whole lot of testing and a whole lot of pushing to do well on these tests. How about the kids. How are they coping with it? Well, not very well. They bring home notes that say they have to get a good night's sleep and eat right in the morning before, tests. Huh. I mean they make a big deal. To me, the paper should just be put on the desk that day and say just do this. Right. You know, I just feel they do better that way. Yeah. Rather than anticipating. And, Yeah. And, and I have older children too that now are out of high school and they've always done this here. I mean it's always been the same but it is, it's getting worse and worse,
is more pressure for everything. *listen And I just think it's really awful and I, I'm with you on that. You don't hear too many people say this, but I think it's a very long day. Oh, it is. And my feeling is that, you know, you're only a kid once, and you don't want to spend your whole life in school. That's right. My son said that, came home and he said, he said Mom, all we do is work. Uh-huh, uh-huh. We hardly ever play and, And I don't think that's right. I think we should do what Europe does and include cultural activities in our school system. Oh, likewise. I don't think I should have to pay for dancing lessons, gymnastics, piano. Right. I would like to see those things included in our school system because I think we should have well-rounded kids not just book smart kids.
Wouldn't that be great. Uh-huh. Right. And so I just find this a real problem. I think if they're going to be there all day, they should find time. One of my daughters, once, was out of school with Mono in her junior year I think it was. And she had a home teacher for like four hours a week and when she went back in six weeks, she was ahead. So what does that tell you? Is that right? It tells you there's a whole lot of wasted time. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. And they could be using this time better. Well, for example, in my son's kindergarten. They're really finished at lunch time. After lunch, they have some, uh, I'm trying to think if they have recess after lunch, and then they have naps or rest period. Uh-huh. And, uh, I think either send them home or do something a little more interesting.
That's a very long day for kindergartners. I agree. But I think that working parents have kind of demanded this. I wouldn't be surprised. You know, because they don't, they don't want to send them to daycare. I doubt if they would say it was too long That's why they want them there because them somebody takes care of them all day Uh, do you have the before school care, at your school and the after school care? We have them at one school like, This is Archie. Hi, Archie. I'm Sharon. Have you seen DANCING WITH WOLVES? Yeah. I've seen that, that's, uh, that was a really good movie. Probably one of the best things about it was the scenery and, uh, I thought the story was pretty good, too. I, I think Kevin Costner did a really good job with it. Have you ever lived in that part of the country?
No. I haven't. Have you ever visited it? Um, I've visited the Wyoming area. I'm not sure exactly where DANCES WITH WOLVES was filmed. I think it was the black hills of South Dakota. Could be. I, I haven't been to South Dakota. Have, have you been up to that? Well, I lived in Omaha for five, winters, Oh. Okay. and that rolling kind of, uh, Terrain. Yeah. Is, is fairly . The thing that I thought was interesting was that the critics, apparently it's going to win everything. Really? Uh, and I had been told, you know, you wouldn't notice that it was three hours long, and all this, kind of,
That's true. I agree with that. Um, I, I noticed yesterday in the paper, something said that it, I think it's been nominated for twelve awards and, and all the critics initially said that, you know, it wouldn't go anywhere, that it was just going to be a dud. So, it, it has surprised everybody. Well, the interesting thing was is I had heard that, and I, I, I tend to, I think, overreact occasionally when somebody tells me it's that great. And, and it was, the thing is, it was, it was a good story. Uh-huh. Right. And, and, and I guess that's what I really like. Although, I must admit I did look at my watch after about an hour. Did you? Yeah. Have you seen SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY? No. I've heard, I've heard that's really great, though. you have to go see that one. And how about SILENCE OF THE LAMB?
No, Go. You must really keep up. I do. I go every weekend I, I, uh, those are two definite must see movies, I think. Well, isn't, isn't SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY, isn't that a, is it, is it a terror movie or is it just suspenseful? It's suspenseful. I don't think it's very I mean, there's not really any, uh, blood and guts in it or anything like that. It's, it's more suspense. Um, the other one, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, is kind of a, a gory movie, if, if somebody's not into that kind of stuff. It's, it's pretty graphic at points. But, uh, I think they're both excellent movies. Do you, do you listen to Gary Cogill? No. Huh-uh. *two utts Is, uh,
do you know who he is? Yeah. Somebody in South Carolina told me about him. He's a, the movie critic. Um, oh, you've, oh, okay. He's a movie critic on channel eight in Dallas. Yeah. And he does, uh, he has a talk show on the, K L I F. Anyway, it's on from seven to nine, or something. And, and, and people call in and it's, if you keep up with movies, it's kind of interesting. There's a certain a mount of dribble that they do. They've got, uh, they've got a couple of kids, ten or twelve years old, and they call in and they review movies. But it's, uh Oh. he, anyway, he, it's interesting.
You listen to him and then you, you go watch the movie. In fact, they had, people had just seen, I was listening Sunday night a little bit when, I was going to pick up my daughter. Uh-huh. But, anyway, it was, uh, the, it, it's interesting, though, or did he just do it? I think that, I think he really, his heart was in it, but I, I don't think he really knew it was going to be as big as it was. I think it was something that he really wanted to do. He wanted to direct it, he wanted to, to star in it. You know, he, he enjoyed the story line and I think he just really he really wanted it. And whether it, whether it won all kinds of awards or whether it just was okay at the box office, I think he would have been happy. Because I think that, I think he did a good job and, and the self-satisfaction he got out of it is much greater than any awards that they can give him. Do you know who the guy was that was playing the, uh, the, the wagon driver?
Um. A little piece of trivia. You know, the guy when he first headed out from the army post. Yeah. Who, no I don't know who that guy is. He, he plays on MURPHY BROWN. Oh, he does? Yes. He's, he's Eldon, her housepainter. As a recurring character every week? Oh. Can you, believe that? No, now see, I'd, I'd a never put those two together. That's, that's one of those interesting pieces of trivia that somebody said, did you notice that? Huh-uh. I thought, no, it's really funny. But I thought, it, it,
you think back, and yeah, it was him, but with a you know, with the beard and all that stuff. Yeah. I mean, it's, uh, Yeah, real scruffy looking Yeah. Real scruffy looking, and it it was really funny, it's, uh, that, that he winds up playing in the movie. But I thought, it's good that, you know, it was a lot of fun. Yeah. I don't know how long this conversation is supposed to go but we're at about five minutes. I should think we've done enough. You think so? I mean, I haven't been watching my watch. Um, I guess, yeah.
Does it usually cut off? Is that what, it does? Well, I don't know. Why do we end this thing? It used to, it used to just automatically cut off I think it just says hang up. but it says when the conversation is over just say your good-byes and hang up. So, I, I guess so. Why don't we do that? Okay. Good-bye Sharon. Good talking to you Archie Uh, well how is it appropriate to be talking about exercise attitudes? We, uh, well, uh, my, my husband is right now teaching an aerobics class. Uh-huh. He's an aerobics instructor. And, um, is going to be, uh, entering North Texas for uh, a Kinesiology program there. *two utts? Uh-huh. And, um, the, the how I met him was through, uh, the aerobics class that he used to teach.
Uh-huh. You're a student? Yeah, so. I'm, I'm an avid aerobics, uh, person and just very, very athletic. Uh-huh. Enjoying a you know, uh, anything dealing with sports. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So, and how do you feel about it? Uh, I'm, I am a person who wishes I had more time to exercise. I, I don't feel like I, I don't very often do things for the sake of exercise. I don't feel well unless I am exercising and I try to do things that involve exercise, but, I very rarely do things like, um, I've never done aerobics or any sort of structured, this is my exercise time Uh-huh. but, I do lots of outdoor sports and things, bicycling, uh, you know, mountaineering, a little mountaineering, this and that, and I spend a lot of time
and I probably get more exercise than your average person. But, it's not a, a structured sort of thing, and I have to admit I have a certain resistance to the idea of exercising for exercising's sake, Uh-huh. and perhaps, it's because somehow that implies to me it's not fun, or something like that. Yeah, well I, I've, my, that's the way my mother stands on it. She feels like if it's something that you have to do, you know, if you look at it as if you have to do it, then it becomes, it becomes a chore, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yes, yes. and, and, she doesn't enjoy it when it's a chore. So, um, and I feel that way too as far as, you know, just sitting and doing, you know, to, the idea of doing fifty sit-ups or something, you know, to, Uh-huh, uh-huh. you're a you know
calculated down and do your calisthenics, you know, three times a week Uh-huh. or, but, but I do try and, um, I do try and regulate how much exercise I get a week. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Is that why you like aerobics classes, because you're not, sort of, someone else is doing the counting for you, so, it makes it less of a chore? Yeah. And, it's got, and I've always enjoyed dance. Yeah. So it involves, you know, I, I can't get out to dance all the time and, Yeah, would that we could Yeah, and it's, and it's more regulated,
I mean you're, you're using different parts of the body. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So, it, it is like dance, and it's structured like that, but you have the music, and someone, like you said, someone else is counting, so, it makes it easier for me. Yeah. Uh-huh. And, someone else is telling me, okay, you know, let's move this way, let's move that way, instead of me having to think about it so much. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Right. You can just trust someone else to give you full exercise and all you do is follow along and enjoy yourself. Yeah, yeah. But, I'm like you, I also, um, like to participate in, uh, things like, well, we just went to the, uh, Myererson Symphony Run this past weekend, and, and that was a lot of fun
and you get to meet different people, and, um, just get out, you know, out and about, Uh-huh, uh-huh. Uh-huh, uh-huh. and it's, it, it's something you can all, like our, we did it as a family, so, it was, it was quite a lot of fun. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and, biking and I, I, I love to swim, so I love it when, you know, it's swimming weather, Um. and, uh, Well, you're talking to someone from California where it's often swimming weather Oh, I didn't realize that. Uh
I'm sorry. Well, I'm in Texas. I, I just assumed that I had, this is the first call I've done, Uh-huh. and, I didn't realize that they were going to reach out to people from, all over the country. You wouldn't know that Oh, I, So, it's the, it's, it's the, the well it's actually, it's interesting, because there are real regional differences. Um, in California there's, uh, almost an assumption, um, unless you're, sort of, clearly of an older generation, or something, you know, in your sixties, or something like that, I'm, I'm, I'm not. Uh, there's an assumption that you do something for your physical fitness, and, and, at least in urban California. And, maybe not, I don't know about rural California too well. But, in urban California it's just, you know, for all I know aerobics started out here. I don't know where they actually started, but they, you know, the craze really picked up big here and before that there was the running craze.
And, they, California gets, you know, tends to be a bit faddish, but, the remarkable thing is how well the fads catch on elsewhere. Uh-huh. So, there must be something to some of them. And, uh, Well, I think people are, are more um, um, people from California seem to be more health motivated all around. I mean, as far as the diet, and everything. Uh, the diet and, uh, just your health consciousness, and, I mean, it just, seems like, uh, a lot of those ideas generate out of California. Uh-huh. Not just exercise, but, health, health related ideas. Yeah. And, I, it's curious, I don't know why, don't know if it's, do you, does California have a, Well, there's a sense of it being a package, I think. There, there is a sense of, you know, whole, there's a lot of, you know, you'll get organizations, like institutes for the whole health, or whatever.
And, uh, oh the, the, the University of California at Berkeley puts out THE WELLNESS LETTER. Which is, uh, turned into a fairly well subscribed to, uh, newsletter, monthly or biweekly newsletter or something like that Uh-huh. and, and, it doesn't deal with just exercise, or just stress management, or just diet, or anything. It, it's on fairly solid scientific ground. Uh, it's just dispensed with these distinctions. It says all sorts of factors go into health and there's no reason to talk about one rather than another, so that they, they combined them all together. And, uh, so it's had that orientation for quite some time. Um, there's been some progressive medical schools out here, that have taken that approach. Uh-huh And, um, Now do you think that's because they've realized that for whole health, that, the, you know, you have to have that combination, or that people are motivated that way so that they've incorporated that into their program. Boy, Do you think the program came first or the, yeah, that, there's a, I, I can say there's a correlation, but I couldn't say which, which caused the other. They sort of, you know, each developed a little bit and then would feed off one another and develop a little bit more, and a little bit more. Yeah, the more money they put into it.
Yeah. And, I can see that. And, cause, I, knowing from institutes of learning like that, I know that they've got to get their money somewhere, and somebody's got to be willing to pay for it, and believe in it, so, Yeah, yeah. Exactly. And, part of it is California, you know, in, back in the sixties, had a lot of alternative movements and some of them fizzled out and some of them were disastrous and others of them, um, had an impact on the society around here. And one of the ones that had an impact was, uh, people becoming interested in alternate practices, I'm not sure if it was a meditation practice, or if it was, you know, which is similar to a stress management practice or alternates to, uh, A M A approved medicine. Uh, you have, you know, major, um, acupuncture schools and things out here. And, and you could have them around long enough and more and more people start believing them or wondering how to combine them with other things,
Uh-huh. and, before long, you, you get this, this whole kind of Gestalt, this whole package of, of health, of health care and options Uh-huh. and, uh, and exercise is, is strongly considered one of them. The irony is, is its people in the cities, in my experience, that are most oriented towards doing the exercise. And, I guess because they spend all day in back of their desks. The average person out on the farm, at least traditionally, now they drive fancy tractors as much as anything but at least traditionally, the laborers, Yeah. last thing, Or they're older. Pardon me. Well, don't you think they tend to be older in the rural I, I sometimes think that it's almost frantic effort on the part of the people in the city. Oh, like everything else. I live in a rural area, you know, I see that. *sd Yeah, yeah. The rat race to exercise It's, yeah, it's, it's like it's frantic, to, Uh-huh.
Yeah, well I, I think so. as a fit person I mean you, you've, if you look at if you look at other cultures, like I know a little bit about people who were considered very healthy in China and they don't do very much vigorous exercise at all. But, they do a lot of low keyed, low impact, low stress exercise, and they combine it with a, you know, meditation or whatever. Some sort of relaxation Uh-huh. and, they seem pretty, you know, they don't have the hard body. They don't have that perfect look, and an awful lot of exercise is sort of image conscious. But they, you know, they live to a hundred and ten some you know, Yeah, And, that, that's, Well, don't you think a lot of that is diet too? and, a lot of that is diet. That's true.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they eat, they eat a lot of carbohydrates, and not much fat. Um, for economical reasons, not for preference. Uh-huh. Um, Yeah and as we can see. Well, I'm a, I'm a practicing vegetarian so, uh, I've read a lot of information, knowing that to be true, Yeah am I actually. What's that? I, as am I. Oh, are you also Yes Well that's, that's good as far as the is that, is that, um, pretty predominant as far as California It is in the urban areas, yes. In the urban areas?
Most, for example most restaurants in an urban area will have a little vegetarian section now. Uh-huh. Oh that's wonderful. Well most, most, sort of modern looking restaurants will, Yeah. you can, That's great, I mean, we, uh, it's such a it's such a trouble here. I mean, you just have to eat at home basically. I was wondering that, because I was actually applying for a job in Texas, and, and, and, uh, it occurred to me, Well of course in the cities, yeah, well, in the cities, we live close to Dallas, Uh-huh. so, uh, which, you know, you get, uh, an influx of a lot of people from all over the country,
so, you're going to have a lot of more choices, Uh-huh, uh-huh. but, but, in urban areas it's, you know, steak places, Yeah. Yeah. an, and it's not a, you know, Yeah. it's, uh, it's definitely, it, it's, it's changing to a degree, And, even, even with health food stores and stores where you can buy natural products or, uh, organic, you know, materials, and foods and things. Yeah. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. You don't really have that, I mean, you would think. All righty . Uh, I'll just hand it off to you and hobbies in our spare time is what we've been selected to discuss today. Well, uh, the hobbies that I pursue in my spare time, are crafts
and, uh, I've been involved in making, uh, hat stands and, uh, rag dolls and, uh, different type hats with, uh, flowers and roses, you know, and, uh, that kind of thing, straw hats and, all that kind of stuff. Oh like typing noises in And I enjoy it, it's relaxing. And you kind of get absorbed in it so the time goes by, you know, before you realize anything is going on. And I play the organ sometimes, uh, just for my own satisfaction Not for anybody else's ears because I'm not that good at it, but I like to bang on the keyboards once in a while. Oh really? How about yourself? Well, oh, hobbies, gee whiz, I guess I got too many hobbies so I never have time to deal with them. Really? I like photography a lot, Oh, yeah, that's neat. uh, I used to do that a lot and then I like, um,
we have a new child that will be a year old here next week, so I'll take a lot of pictures of her, you know, and spoil them, Oh, that's great, uh-huh. first one, you know how that is. And, um, uh, I play the guitar and a banjo. I mainly play the guitar a lot, I play about every night. And, um, I really love that, if I had a druther , if I could have, if I could make it on the road, I'd like to play on like a bluegrass band or something, because that's, I've, Oh, that sounds nice. I like bluegrass, too. yeah, I've done it before and when I was in in high school and college, and thoroughly enjoyed it, Uh-huh. and it's really a, a blast. My wife hates it,
but that's the way life is, I guess. That's the hard part, right? Exactly. If you can do things together, that really helps a lot. yeah, we, uh, she's, uh, into aerobics, and, uh, and we did aerobics together for about a month and a half Oh, that's good, too. and that went over real well, Uh-huh. but, uh, that's about it there. Oh, it's good and it's healthy, too. Oh, yeah, yeah. We do that too, we have a, uh, a treadmill and, uh, a bicycle and that kind of stuff, we try to get twenty minutes like at least three for four times a week, you know. Oh, that's great.
Yeah. That's great. And we like movies, that yeah. Yeah, that's, uh, spare time, with a child it's, kind of she's, we have, uh, we're looking for a baby-sitter so we've been out twice in in this year so far. By ourselves without the child Uh-huh. so it's kind of, uh, become an issue you could say. Sure. Um, hobbies, I like, messing around in your house building things, and, you know, putting cabinets up, and, those kind of things, um, Oh yeah, that's great, too.
Uh-huh. Yeah, we did some remodeling when we bought a house, we built, put a kitchen in and, um, that kind of stuff, and painting and some wallpapering, that's fun. It's really kind of fun. It is. It really is. Especially if your spouse will get in there with you and get dirty, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I like things that, you know, two people can do, but I like the quiet of doing things away, you know, kind of gives you some space for yourself, and that's what I find in making the dolls and things, that it gives me something that I can create, and I like to crochet and knit. I made some afghans and that kind of stuff. I like doing things with my hands. Uh-huh.
Sounds like it. Yeah. Do you like to cook? Yes, I love to cook. Yeah, I love to cook, too, I'm, uh, Italian food Oh, really? Yeah, pizzas and spaghettis and lasagnas and that kind of stuff. Well, we're all skinny farts so, I, it, so when it comes to, I like to cook and eat and, to have, mainly, I guess, I get to Yeah. amount of people eat, *listen and then say, man this is really good, Uh-huh.
Yeah, it is. um, um, but it just, work in the garden, work around the yard, of course, Do you do barbecues? Yes, we sure do, smoke them Well, uh, uh, smoking and all that stuff? Oh, yeah, all that hoedown stuff. Yeah, yep, All that stuff that's bad for you. I, I lived in Abilene for a little while, and, uh, worked in the Abilene plant, Oh, sure, yeah. and we used to go to Joe Allen's Barbecue, and, uh, oh, that was great. Oh, yeah.
Really great, That's, uh, only way to do it. they have some nice stuff down there. I miss it Well, yeah, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, there's, uh, there's pluses to everything, Oh, yeah. but, you know, seems like there's just so many things to do down here, I like the sports, I play a lot of racquetball. We did, I did horseback riding, too, in fact, when my children were growing up, we always had horses and, uh, that was kind of for them, but they weren't as interested in it as we were, you know, so, uh, that was a real, I'd say probably for maybe fifteen years, we dabbled in that, you know, we always had horses around, and I really enjoyed that, Oh, that's great,
sounds like you, and I was disappointed when I went to Texas. I didn't see that many of them. Horses? Yes Yeah, you really don't. Yeah, the, you have to look real hard to see a lot of things besides concrete, uh, I know, I know, it's true. there's buildings and concrete and a lot of people and that's about it down here, and so, Uh-huh. Yeah. But, uh, that's great. Well, sounds like you have a lot of nice hobbies there.
Yeah, you too, you too. Well, great, well look, uh, I know it's probably late for you, Okay. I enjoyed speaking with you Me too. have a good weekend. Okay. Bye-bye. Bye, now. Well, the thing is, is that I, um, since I'm in school I don't, like, basically have a monthly budget because I'm living off my dad, but the thing is, is that, um, I have to keep it under control because, for example, you know, it's like the, the beginning of the semester when you go to pay for everything, everything is pretty rough, but he controls that part but, then whenever, you know, it's like, once the semester starts I'm the one who has to control how much spending there is. And the only thing that I, I basically spend my money on is just food

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