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and that was pretty much it.
And they had like three or four basic packages that they they offer.
Yeah.
Sounds like the Lincoln Mercury dealer I used to work for.
They didn't order anything but the extra luxury version of whatever they got.
Little Mercury Tracer
Yeah,
I've been
I've been,
imagine, or not, they make a, ... |
the Lincoln ride is certainly good, too, but the, this Lexus is nothing like I have ever been in before. *one or two utt?
It's just,
Like sitting in your living room.
Yeah,
it really is,
and it's got a lumbar support in the seats.
Adjustable?
Adjustable, uh power
Yeah
and just kind of brings that support up in the
tell... |
and we managed to come out, uh, losers all the way around.
And so this is what ultimately triggered us, uh, United States, uh, per se, being, uh, deciding to get out of the role of world policeman.
Your views,
Uh, as I understand it, and I, uh, don't know a lot about it, uh, we got in there because of France
Well.
uh, ... |
because you support, uh, you support your government.
Right or wrong?
Uh, okay,
right or wrong,
I don't think is, is, we can determine whether we were right or wrong,
because, you're, you're having to deal with, again, uh,
I think we could have made a different agreement back in the the late forties era that would have... |
Uh, yeah,
this is,
the, uh, the, the, uh, mutual defense thing was, uh,
we, we,
it was complicated,
and I don't think everybody knows the whole situation.
I don't.
But from what I can gather, is we went and said yeah, we will help the South Vietnamese, uh, should they ask.
Well, the French went in and tried their old s... |
Uh-huh.
so, uh, we, we kind of, we kind of got, got the ball rolling ourselves versus a bunch of top secret silly uh, um, oh, operations and then the full scale, you know, full scale troops, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah,
I'm thirty-two,
so, uh, I
well, I missed it.
Seventy-four is when they quit sending troops... |
Uh-huh.
So, we will play either out there or at Firewheel.
That is usually where we play,
but I have played you know different courses in in the Dallas area.
Do you, uh, do you ride or do you pull a cart when you play golf?
Uh, both
Oh.
Not at the same time.
I was going to say, that could be difficult
No, sometimes we ... |
and that makes me so mad
You know, it is like it is not going to do that much damage to the course, but apparently they think differently
That is the reason, I don't play over there.
Yeah.
I like the course, but I don't play over there because, you, they don't, uh, you know don't allow you to pull a cart.
Right.
And, I... |
I live in northwest Garland.
Right up there near the golf course.
Okay,
well we are in south Garland,
but yeah, next time you go, uh, you know, check into it,
they have, uh,
it is just like, uh, a bus card
and they just punch it. You know,
it has got one through ten on it
and every time you go they just punch it for yo... |
Oh well that sounds like fun too
but my golf clubs will probably rust before I get to use them again
because my boys are still right at the beginning age
and it is probably going to be six to eight years before they go to college.
Uh-huh.
Well, you need to, uh, teach them how to play and take them out on the course wit... |
Uh-huh.
Right.
Right.
I took one lesson one other time.
Besides that, uh, I just, uh, try to make the club hit the ball.
Right.
Yeah,
I know what you mean
I don't want to play strike out, you know.
Uh-huh.
But I have fun doing it,
some, uh, you know, I have some good shots and some bad shots.
Oh yeah.
It, it is just ni... |
My wife had, uh, just put in a bunch of, I want to say, they are pansies.
Uh-huh.
She put them in like two months ago cause they are winter plants.
Right.
And they have been,
we thought even with all the cold weather weather we have had they have been blooming just fine.
Oh, they do great.
I put mine in probably in Nov... |
So, if you start putting them, you know, you can put them out in the spring too,
but once it starts getting real hot then it just kills them cause they can't stand the hot weather.
Uh-huh.
Do they survive longer if you plant them in the winter time?
Will they make it through the summer sun?
No,
they won't make it throu... |
Two year old daughter in child care
and we went through the process of searching for child care and uh, finding what we consider to be, real good child care at a, uh, pretty reasonable price, we think.
Uh,
How about you,
do you have any children?
Yes,
our first
and he just turned three months.
Oh, boy.
So, we're just s... |
Yeah,
uh, are you going to, uh, put your son in child care in a, a year or two?
Uh, probably. Uh,
actually spring semester a year from now he's going to have to be in child care uh, five days a week more than likely. Uh, depending on how my class schedule runs
Yeah.
because my wife will be doing her internship that sem... |
and the articles that are written on the topic, are pretty good
and they kind of boil down to, uh,
any other important decision you really have to explore the alternative
Uh-huh
and what we found, uh, to be the best guide was our own instincts about, people who were going to be loving
Yeah.
and, uh, that's more importa... |
Yeah.
so it's a good experience.
Uh, that makes a big difference.
I
if it's good,
I think it's very good for the child.
Yes.
And if it's, a loving environment, I think it's very good
and, and that's really what we've learned about it.
She'll have to go on to something more stimulating in terms of preschool in a year
Ye... |
Yeah.
uh, they, uh, they have a subbranch, uh, American Family Counseling
and their people staff this, this, uh, the child care center just off campus.
But, uh, they have a pretty good size waiting list.
Yeah
So,
Well, that's, uh,
I know it's, it's a real hard thing to do, even for people in, in, uh, university communi... |
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because, I think what we're going to go to is much more commercial entrepreneurial learning ventures in the market.
As a matter of fact, my future is banked on that, uh, professionally because I believe that, that there are, uh, pressing needs in the marketplace, unmet by schools, colleges universities for,... |
How about you?
Oh, I, I'm very, uh, I'm very varied as well.
I, uh, I don't think I've ever met a type of music I don't like except for, uh, maybe, you know, heavy metal and that.
That's exactly me.
The acid rock or the heavy metal.
Yeah.
Even some of that I like okay but not, mostly, as a general rule,
Yeah.
I don't c... |
But I, I like to listen to, uh, what you might call pop, easy listening country western, jazz uh, classical, um,
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I, I don't,
I like, uh, like I said, pretty varied, uh, music.
Uh-huh.
I have a couple that my husband really hates that I listen to, like Billy Holiday
Oh
I really love to listen to her,
Uh-... |
How about you?
Well, um, I listen to, uh, specific,
most, most likely I would be listen to, uh, jazz or classical music.
Um I, in college I took, uh, four years of classical guitar,
and I played in the, in the jazz combo all four years.
I play guitar for the jazz combo.
Oh, yeah?
So, uh, that's where my two, my two lis... |
um, I wouldn't have admitted it when I was in high school
but, I really do like it a lot.
So.
I, I like some of it, um,
as far as like the what they now call country western, it doesn't sound like the old country music at all, does it? *two utts??
No,
it doesn't,
it doesn't.
Um, some of it sounds more like pop music.
Y... |
or, uh, what, what Merle Haggard and Faron Young
Uh-huh.
that type of country western is what I, I like to listen to. Uh, Sons of the Pioneers, you know, stuff like that. *all caps for titles
Sure.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Um, oh, I like sound tracks a lot.
Oh, do you?
Yeah,
it seems like you get a lot of original music t... |
Um, I have some Spiro Gyro tapes.
Oh, they're great aren't they.
Oh, they're wonderful.
Yeah.
I love them.
I have some dulcimer music.
I mean, like I said, that, that's pretty varied.
Yeah,
it sure is,
yeah.
Al Jarreau, he's somebody I like.
He's pretty, kind of jazz inspired but but still kind of pop, too.
Uh-huh.
Yea... |
I mean, some people sing,
and they have their faced all contorted, like it hurts them or something
But he looks like he's having a good time.
I mean, he's up there moving around and smiling like he's happy and, and like all he wants to do is, is make the audience enjoy it, too.
Uh-huh.
Sure.
And he, he is real fun to l... |
last year or the year before, I can't remember,
but, um, I was listening to a particular radio station
and, and the one D J said, who the heck is Bonnie Rait and why does she deserve five Grammies?
Well, I vowed then that I was not going to listen to that radio station any more, if that D J can make such a
Okay.
Okay,
... |
Uh, the one, the one thing that I, you know, I'd advise any parent, uh, you know, or any, or any person looking for a college, uh, is that I think, I think, you know, it's really important for them to actually visit the college and actually try and get away from, you know, the guided tour of the college and try and tal... |
Uh-huh.
and that, you know, that changes the character of it quite a bit.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
I, I go to Georgia Tech which is, you know, primarily an engineering school
Uh-huh.
and, uh, you know, I think I really do miss the fact, you know, that it's not a university, that there's, there's not, the, the, you know,
it tends ... |
Uh, you know, as sort of some development and some training, uh,
like it's easy enough to crank out graduates, but to really challenge them
Uh-huh.
and, uh, and that can vary between colleges, and faculties even, as to how, you know, what the attitude towards achievement is.
Uh-huh.
Uh, do you, uh, have anyone that you... |
Uh-huh.
and if you go in an area that there is just not much of a job market
Uh-uh.
jeez,
if that's,
Uh-huh,
like a fine arts education,
I,
Right.
Best training in the world is not going to put food on your table.
Uh-huh.
But, uh,
You have any pets?
Do I have pets?
Yeah.
Yes,
I have a cat
and I have two dogs.
Two dogs,... |
I have a Schnauzer
and I have a Sheltie.
Schnauzers.
Is it a miniature or a standard Schnauzer?
It, it's a miniature.
Uh. I'm going into all this because I used to I just got done working at a pet shop actually.
Uh-huh.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well, the Schnauzer I'm, I'm watching for one of, uh, the managers where I work
and ... |
So she doesn't know that this is a cat yet.
That's good.
They say ,
And they get along real good.
I said if Tom could see dog lick this kitty, he'd flip. *listen
So that was interesting.
Didn't expect that would happen.
Yeah,
that's cool,
that's nice.
Uh, let's see,
what was the other dog you had?
It's a sheltie.
Oh, a... |
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
shelties are nice.
Everybody seems to be really happy with them.
They're good temperament.
They're a good temperament
They put up with a lot.
and they, and they just, uh,
they,
I think they have a good head on their shoulders.
I think they have a, a higher level of intelligence than other, uh, dogs that I... |
it seems the smaller the are, the, the worse off they are
Yeah,
that's, that's, maybe that's, there's, uh, some credence in that statement.
Yeah,
they're bred down so much.
It's,
Uh-huh.
They aren't the best pets.
I, I'd, I really don't know what the best pet is.
Yeah.
I guess it's up to the individual and how they rel... |
I, I've dealt with quite a few of them.
People, uh, customers that bring them into the shop and ask me like, they, uh, fit collars and stuff on them
and they are, they are just really nice, really friendly, uh, kind of like medium intelligence. Uh,
Well, how do they become
how did they get their reputation, then?
Well,... |
Uh-huh.
and so once you get them going, it's not good to to deal with, but, they, I, I really like them. *two utts?
I was, I was impressed by them.
They're, they're real sturdy little critters
and they aren't that big. And, uh, just really friendly.
Uh-huh.
Well, that's unusual.
I was, I was overwhelmed.
I,
Huh, well,... |
But, any, any, any pet's going to, can, can be bad if you train it to be that way.
You know, that,
they must have just targeted that breed and said, boy, we're going
Well, yeah,
it's, when,
in my hometown, they just outlawed ferrets because they had one incident of a ferret, uh, attacking a a child in a house.
Oh, okay... |
but I think it was probably a, an individual ferret thing, because it was it was a fairly wild ferret.
Well, the the people that owned him should have been on the lookout for that. Sure,
Hadn't, they hadn't,
Yeah,
I mean they really should have, should have expected it. And taken the precautions.
They didn't.
yeah.
... |
They can if they choose to.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Have you, well have you had any experience with it at all?
Uh, not really
but I've always worked on a university level
but a lot of my friends had to be tested before they got summer jobs and stuff.
Uh-huh.
So what do you think about that?
Uh, I don't, I don't think they're ... |
but it came back that she tested positive for using a hallucinogen.
But what it was, was she had been she had been, uh, in the jungle
and it was some Malaria medication
and she tested positive for that.
See, and so it really is a dangerous thing that way
because I know of somebody that tested for an airline and didn't ... |
I don't know.
But, I know there are a lot of things that can influence them
and I think that a person deserves a second chance with it or something because most things will stay in your system for a long time.
Yeah.
And if you could show that,
I, I interviewed for a job recently
and I was taking Entex. And my doctor ga... |
if you're using it while at a job, I can see a problem.
Yeah.
But the occasional person, then it's almost like, it's almost an infringement of your privacy.
Well, it sort of is.
And this is it,
this,
I'm not real sure how I feel about it because I can see it from two ways.
You know, as a health professional, I wouldn't... |
And it, it's like, it seems like now they have tests
I guess they can test your hair
and they can find out if you use drugs up to several years ago.
Really. maybe you shouldn't be held responsible for something you did several years ago. *sv
So,
I know.
That's the other thing.
I mean a lot of, a lot of people as kids o... |
Right.
Well you do have a hard time finding time then don't you?
Well, five are, I mean four of them are grown,
they're in college or just out of college
so I really have just a thirteen year old at home.
Uh-huh.
You sound so young.
Well, I work at it
All right
To have them, uh,
I try to fool everybody
I think you're d... |
I think you are right
because I was an only child too.
And that's one reason I have so many because I really, I enjoy the big family.
Yeah.
And my thirteen year old is pretty separate from her brother and sisters
and so she is sort of like an only child
and it's the same type of thing, uh,
Uh-huh.
I have a younger brot... |
Yeah.
But, uh, yeah,
it, it's a little bit difficult, though.
I think it was easier when they all had each other and could entertain each other and I was home more.
And,
Did you all do a lot of organized things like, uh, Little League, uh, soccer?
We, we really did not.
My next oldest daughter that's in college in Cali... |
and maybe dancing school for a while or mainly school sports and things like that.
You know, I think that's probably true. The,
if you have one child or fewer, you get involved in organized events or activities
Uh-huh.
and if you have a large number of children or, then you don't.
Well, you can't afford to.
No,
you
and... |
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Well I know I spent hours in the gym every day with my daughter
and my little one also competed because really she had no choice.
She had to go with me.
Uh-huh.
So the three of us just spent a lot of time traveling and, and competing
and, of course, the competing itself, really didn't matter what it was,
... |
I most certainly couldn't educate three.
I don't know how my, my parents did it.
Yeah.
I mean, there were five of us
and I don't recall, you know, wanting anything in particular.
Uh, but I don't know how my father did it.
He worked at a truck line
and he just didn't make that kind of money with five children.
But we di... |
Is it?
Yes.
we have a lot of people moving here from Boston and, and different areas
and from talking to them, they're shocked.
Really?
and they, you know,
the housing is so cheap in comparison to Boston that they jump on it.
Right.
That's what I've heard.
They sell their house,
they stash away a good bit of money and... |
Oh so ,
Okay.
I'm not as ashamed to claim them this year as I have been so
Well, it,
let's put it this way.
We've got the New England Patriots up here
so.
Oh yeah.
Right. Well,
They've had some serious problems in the past couple of years.
Really?
Yeah.
Why?
Um, well, uh, partly due to ownership.
You know, uh, Victor K... |
Yeah.
Well it will be fun for you to watch up there anyway to see what happens now you,
Oh, yeah.
I've been to a couple, I've been to a few games before.
Uh-huh.
Now you, you're, you're from Texas.
Right.
So you've got two football teams down there.
Well, it depends on where you're from in Texas.
I live right by Dalla... |
Uh-huh.
but I have a boyfriend that lives in Fresno
Do you,
and he is for the L, the, uh, Raiders. L A Raiders,
Uh-huh.
so.
Do you follow professional sports at all?
Well, I just started to this year because of these silly Raiders that didn't do very well
but I've been trying more this year.
I think I know a little mo... |
and that's suppose to be some of the, uh, the male bonding and the, and the, uh, the male instincts, I guess, or something about the, uh,
So I shouldn't even try to do it, huh
Well, no.
It, it's good as, in terms of, in terms of, uh, of a contest.
Yes.
I think that, uh,
I personally like hockey better because it has co... |
I don't even think we have that in Texas.
What, hockey?
We might.
Do we?
I mean, no
you probably know,
I don't know.
No,
there's no hockey,
there's no
Nobody talks about it
so I don't think we do.
There's no professional hockey teams in, in Texas
No,
uh-huh.
And we have a soccer team that comes and goes.
We don't even ... |
Uh-huh.
Like they have this World Football League.
You see, we have the N F L that, that Dallas and Houston are in and New England Patriots and L A Raiders and those teams
Yeah.
There are those teams that play in professional, National Football League
but, uh, now they have what's called the World Football League
and t... |
I don't like to watch anything.
So it kind of annoys me when people just lay in front of a T V and watch all this stuff.
I think it's an, excuse to do nothing
and I, I can see what you're saying about the male bonding
and the guys get together
Yeah.
and that's kind of cool.
That's fun, you know.
Uh-huh.
But it can ge... |
Well see, now see that's what you got to do, see.
Now we talked our,
I've done that for college football.
Yeah,
yeah.
Yeah.
You, the,
well the same thing.
Yeah.
We, we talked our wives,
there's about six or eight guys that we use to go out for these games.
And, uh, we talked our wives into going with us one time
and th... |
Yeah.
But, but that whole,
it, it's not so much, sure the contest itself and the game itself,
Yeah.
that you miss sitting home in your parlor, you know, uh, with, with a six pack of beer and some, uh, potato chips, you know
That's right.
you, you miss that.
Yeah,
that's right.
And, and any professional sport I think, y... |
think about this?
Uh, do you have children in school?
I do.
Uh, I have two that are, uh, now just about ready to graduate from college
Uh.
but I also have two that are just entering school. Uh, well *sv I think they're just pushing them entirely to fast.
So you see a big difference then in before and now do you
or,
A... |
What's the new criteria, huh.
And, uh, there is a,
do you have the standardized testing now?
We have all kinds of testing
and it's over and over.
It's I T B S or, and, uh, just everything, everything.
Yeah.
And they test, test, test.
I live in Plano actually
and I don't know if you've heard of Plano
but it's a very tr... |
Uh, J C Penney's come down from New York and, of course, T I and Xerox from Rochester
and we just, have lots of people from everywhere. Lots of industry coming in,
Yeah.
and it's a very wealthy community.
Uh, not that I am
but other people seem, to be
and I would love to know why
but I mean they do.
They have,
you wou... |
and uh, you know, it does.
Oh, me.
I mean, we do it to a point
but uh, not to where she feels different,
Yeah.
but some of them are very rich
It's hard to explain to them why you can't.
and so, uh, we just kind of have, everything here
and we have a very goal oriented population because their parents are.
Right.
And ... |
and if you read national surveys, they're far from it.
And so there's just a whole lot of testing and a whole lot of pushing to do well on these tests.
How about the kids.
How are they coping with it?
Well, not very well.
They bring home notes that say they have to get a good night's sleep and eat right in the morning ... |
is more pressure for everything. *listen
And I just think it's really awful
and I, I'm with you on that.
You don't hear too many people say this,
but I think it's a very long day.
Oh, it is.
And my feeling is that, you know, you're only a kid once, and you don't want to spend your whole life in school.
That's right.
M... |
Wouldn't that be great.
Uh-huh.
Right.
And so I just find this a real problem.
I think if they're going to be there all day, they should find time.
One of my daughters, once, was out of school with Mono in her junior year I think it was.
And she had a home teacher for like four hours a week
and when she went back in si... |
That's a very long day for kindergartners.
I agree.
But I think that working parents have kind of demanded this.
I wouldn't be surprised.
You know, because they don't, they don't want to send them to daycare.
I doubt if they would say it was too long
That's why they want them there because them somebody takes care of t... |
No.
I haven't.
Have you ever visited it?
Um, I've visited the Wyoming area.
I'm not sure exactly where DANCES WITH WOLVES was filmed.
I think it was the black hills of South Dakota.
Could be.
I, I haven't been to South Dakota.
Have, have you been up to that?
Well, I lived in Omaha for five, winters,
Oh.
Okay.
and that ... |
That's true.
I agree with that.
Um, I, I noticed yesterday in the paper, something said that it,
I think it's been nominated for twelve awards
and, and all the critics initially said that, you know, it wouldn't go anywhere, that it was just going to be a dud.
So, it, it has surprised everybody.
Well, the interesting th... |
No,
Go.
You must really keep up.
I do.
I go every weekend
I, I, uh,
those are two definite must see movies, I think.
Well, isn't, isn't SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY, isn't that a,
is it, is it a terror movie
or is it just suspenseful?
It's suspenseful.
I don't think it's very
I mean, there's not really any, uh, blood and gu... |
do you know who he is?
Yeah.
Somebody in South Carolina told me about him.
He's a, the movie critic.
Um, oh, you've, oh,
okay.
He's a movie critic on channel eight in Dallas.
Yeah.
And he does, uh, he has a talk show on the, K L I F.
Anyway, it's on from seven to nine, or something.
And, and, and people call in
and it'... |
You listen to him
and then you, you go watch the movie.
In fact, they had, people had just seen,
I was listening Sunday night a little bit when, I was going to pick up my daughter.
Uh-huh.
But, anyway, it was, uh, the,
it, it's interesting, though,
or did he just do it?
I think that, I think he really,
his heart was in... |
Um.
A little piece of trivia.
You know, the guy when he first headed out from the army post.
Yeah.
Who,
no
I don't know who that guy is.
He, he plays on MURPHY BROWN.
Oh, he does?
Yes.
He's, he's Eldon, her housepainter.
As a recurring character every week?
Oh.
Can you, believe that?
No,
now see, I'd, I'd a never put t... |
you think back,
and yeah,
it was him, but with a you know, with the beard and all that stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, uh,
Yeah,
real scruffy looking
Yeah.
Real scruffy looking,
and it it was really funny, it's, uh, that, that he winds up playing in the movie.
But I thought, it's good that, you know,
it was a lot of fun.
Ye... |
Does it usually cut off?
Is that what, it does?
Well, I don't know.
Why do we end this thing?
It used to, it used to just automatically cut off
I think it just says hang up.
but it says when the conversation is over just say your good-byes and hang up.
So, I, I guess so.
Why don't we do that?
Okay.
Good-bye Sharon.
Goo... |
Uh-huh.
You're a student?
Yeah,
so. I'm, I'm an avid aerobics, uh, person and just very, very athletic.
Uh-huh.
Enjoying a you know, uh, anything dealing with sports.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
So, and how do you feel about it?
Uh, I'm, I am a person who wishes I had more time to exercise.
I, I don't feel like I,
I don't very oft... |
and I probably get more exercise than your average person.
But, it's not a, a structured sort of thing,
and I have to admit I have a certain resistance to the idea of exercising for exercising's sake,
Uh-huh.
and perhaps, it's because somehow that implies to me it's not fun, or something like that.
Yeah,
well I, I've,
... |
calculated down
and do your calisthenics, you know, three times a week
Uh-huh.
or, but, but I do try and, um, I do try and regulate how much exercise I get a week.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
Yeah,
yeah.
Is that why you like aerobics classes, because you're not, sort of, someone else is doing the counting for you, so, it makes it ... |
I mean you're, you're using different parts of the body.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
So, it, it is like dance,
and it's structured like that,
but you have the music, and someone, like you said, someone else is counting, so, it makes it easier for me.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
And, someone else is telling me, okay, you know, let's move this wa... |
and you get to meet different people, and, um, just get out, you know, out and about,
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
and it's, it, it's something you can all,
like our,
we did it as a family,
so, it was, it was quite a lot of fun.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and, biking
and I, I, I love to swim,
so I love it when, you know, it's ... |
I'm sorry.
Well, I'm in Texas.
I, I just assumed that I had,
this is the first call I've done,
Uh-huh.
and, I didn't realize that they were going to reach out to people from, all over the country.
You wouldn't know that
Oh, I,
So, it's the, it's, it's the, the well it's actually,
it's interesting, because there are rea... |
And, they,
California gets, you know, tends to be a bit faddish,
but, the remarkable thing is how well the fads catch on elsewhere.
Uh-huh.
So, there must be something to some of them.
And, uh,
Well, I think people are, are more um, um,
people from California seem to be more health motivated all around. I mean, as far ... |
And, uh, oh the, the, the University of California at Berkeley puts out THE WELLNESS LETTER. Which is, uh, turned into a fairly well subscribed to, uh, newsletter, monthly or biweekly newsletter or something like that
Uh-huh.
and, and, it doesn't deal with just exercise, or just stress management, or just diet, or anyt... |
Yeah.
And,
I can see that.
And, cause, I,
knowing
from institutes of learning like that, I know that they've got to get their money somewhere,
and somebody's got to be willing to pay for it, and believe in it,
so,
Yeah,
yeah.
Exactly.
And, part of it is California, you know, in, back in the sixties, had a lot of altern... |
Uh-huh.
and, before long, you, you get this, this whole kind of Gestalt, this whole package of, of health, of health care and options
Uh-huh.
and, uh, and exercise is, is strongly considered one of them.
The irony is, is its people in the cities, in my experience, that are most oriented towards doing the exercise.
And,... |
Yeah,
well I, I think so.
as a fit person
I mean you, you've,
if you look at if you look at other cultures,
like I know a little bit about people who were considered very healthy in China
and they don't do very much vigorous exercise at all.
But, they do a lot of low keyed, low impact, low stress exercise,
and they com... |
Yeah.
Yeah,
I mean, they eat, they eat a lot of carbohydrates, and not much fat. Um, for economical reasons, not for preference.
Uh-huh.
Um,
Yeah
and as we can see.
Well, I'm a, I'm a practicing vegetarian
so, uh, I've read a lot of information, knowing that to be true,
Yeah
am I actually.
What's that?
I, as am I.
Oh, ... |
Most, for example most restaurants in an urban area will have a little vegetarian section now.
Uh-huh.
Oh that's wonderful.
Well most, most, sort of modern looking restaurants will,
Yeah.
you can,
That's great,
I mean, we, uh,
it's such a it's such a trouble here.
I mean, you just have to eat at home basically.
I was w... |
so, you're going to have a lot of more choices,
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
but, but, in urban areas it's, you know, steak places,
Yeah.
Yeah.
an, and it's not a, you know,
Yeah.
it's, uh, it's definitely,
it, it's, it's changing to a degree, And, even, even with health food stores and stores where you can buy natural products or,... |
and, uh, I've been involved in making, uh, hat stands and, uh, rag dolls and, uh, different type hats with, uh, flowers and roses, you know, and, uh, that kind of thing, straw hats and, all that kind of stuff.
Oh like typing noises in
And I enjoy it,
it's relaxing.
And you kind of get absorbed in it
so the time goes by... |
we have a new child that will be a year old here next week,
so I'll take a lot of pictures of her, you know, and spoil them,
Oh, that's great,
uh-huh.
first one, you know how that is.
And, um, uh, I play the guitar and a banjo.
I mainly play the guitar a lot,
I play about every night.
And, um, I really love that,
if I ... |
but that's the way life is, I guess.
That's the hard part, right?
Exactly.
If you can do things together, that really helps a lot.
yeah,
we, uh,
she's, uh, into aerobics,
and, uh, and we did aerobics together for about a month and a half
Oh, that's good, too.
and that went over real well,
Uh-huh.
but, uh, that's about ... |
Yeah.
That's great.
And we like movies,
that
yeah.
Yeah,
that's, uh,
spare time,
with a child it's, kind of
she's,
we have, uh,
we're looking for a baby-sitter
so we've been out twice in in this year so far. By ourselves without the child
Uh-huh.
so it's kind of, uh, become an issue you could say.
Sure.
Um, hobbies,
I ... |
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
we did some remodeling when we bought a house,
we built, put a kitchen in and, um, that kind of stuff, and painting and some wallpapering,
that's fun.
It's really kind of fun.
It is.
It really is.
Especially if your spouse will get in there with you and get dirty,
yeah.
Yeah,
exactly.
I like things that, ... |
Sounds like it.
Yeah.
Do you like to cook?
Yes,
I love to cook.
Yeah,
I love to cook, too,
I'm, uh,
Italian food
Oh, really?
Yeah,
pizzas and spaghettis and lasagnas and that kind of stuff.
Well, we're all skinny farts
so, I,
it,
so when it comes to,
I like to cook and eat and, to have, mainly, I guess, I get to
Yeah.
... |
Yeah,
it is.
um, um, but it just,
work in the garden, work around the yard, of course,
Do you do barbecues?
Yes,
we sure do,
smoke them
Well, uh, uh, smoking and all that stuff?
Oh, yeah,
all that hoedown stuff.
Yeah,
yep,
All that stuff that's bad for you.
I, I lived in Abilene for a little while, and, uh, worked in t... |
Really great,
That's, uh, only way to do it.
they have some nice stuff down there.
I miss it
Well, yeah,
it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh,
there's, uh, there's pluses to everything,
Oh, yeah.
but, you know, seems like there's just so many things to do down here,
I like the sports,
I play a lot of racquetball.
We did, I did... |
sounds like you,
and I was disappointed when I went to Texas.
I didn't see that many of them.
Horses?
Yes
Yeah,
you really don't.
Yeah,
the,
you have to look real hard to see a lot of things besides concrete, uh,
I know,
I know,
it's true.
there's buildings and concrete and a lot of people
and that's about it down here... |
Yeah,
you too,
you too.
Well, great,
well look, uh,
I know it's probably late for you,
Okay.
I enjoyed speaking with you
Me too.
have a good weekend.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
Bye, now.
Well, the thing is, is that I, um,
since I'm in school I don't, like, basically have a monthly budget because I'm living off my dad,
but the thin... |
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