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I think the only people who benefit from that are the lawyers. Oh, that's right. I work for a law firm I, I'm serious. And I think that the lawyers have caused a lot of the problems that exist in the in the criminal system today. With plea bargaining. Right. You know, if someone is Well plea plea bargaining is a differ...
But, I think that the reason they are full is because they know that they can get away with it. Huh. you know what I'm saying? That we don't have, uh, well a lot of states don't have capital punishment. Right. And, uh I, I think they should. We do I, and I think if a person is guilty of taking someone's life and like y...
Oh, really. So, I mean, his appeal was denied and two days later he got out of jail For cocaine possession. It, uh, Yeah. But, uh, that was absurd There is never, there was no reason the appeal process should have dragged on that long for a six month sentence. I know that, that Uh-huh. And, I don't know. Uh, what woul...
Oh, exactly. There's there's no possible way that you could, uh, you know, feel good about yourself. Exactly. Right. If you had to do something like that, day after day. No one would want the job No. Not really. Uh, and, you know, like I said, the, you know, everyone has their opinions about every case. Well, do you t...
I mean you could have fifty people in audience watching a murder take place Yeah. and you, you'd still, there's still mitigating circumstances Well, I, I, Okay, Mary. Yes. Um, the, uh, the latest one I've seen, uh, had to do with a, uh, uh, the, uh, basically a manhunt, um, and it was, uh, it was called MANHUNTER, actu...
well, they keep it rather secretive, yes Yeah, yeah. Well the most recent movie I saw, uh, I'm afraid was, uh, well two, two of them actually. Uh, the RAIN MAN was one. Oh that was great one. Wasn't that fabulous, and, and DRIVING MISS DAISY. Oh, I loved it. You know, I haven't seen that one yet, and I need to go see i...
You bet, especially in the South. Yes, right, and, um, uh, it, it really was a fantastic movie. The acting was phenomenal. Well as, it, as I recall it got some Academy Awards, didn't it. Oh yes, Jessica Tandy won best actress and, uh, Oh yeah, that's right. It, it might have one best picture, too. Yes it did, yes it di...
I, I think it was more a lesson for Tom Cruise than anything else in terms of, uh, of how to act from Dustin Hoffman, but, uh. Yes, uh, oh, that was, that was, uh, what the, much of the hype was that Tom Cruise learned so much from Dustin Hoffman. Yeah, it must have been great just being with him on, on a daily basis a...
yeah. That was hilarious. The, the, I guess the, the first, the first, uh, scene in that movie that really got my attention, uh, concerning the, the disease and all that was when he, uh, dropped the, the, uh, the toothpicks, Oh yes. and he was able to count the number of toothpicks just by a mental image. Yes, yes. Unb...
an, and then they balanced it with the wonderfulness of it, you know, and, and, and you need to, to work with it, uh, you know, certainly on, on a daily basis but then then again work with it toward a good end. Not, not toward winning in Las Vegas, for example. Yes and the, Right, well the warmth that developed between...
and then, you know, uh, for, for, for no real, you know, direct reason, I guess, uh, we, we get into, uh, uh, a really good relationship for a while and then, you know, back and forth so I, I was really able to, to relate to the, the relationship aspect of the movie between the brothers. That was neat. Uh-huh. Well tha...
and, and, Well he at least saw it one time Yeah, yeah, and, and he really, I don't know, he, he's kind of a Dustin Hoffman fan anyway. But he but before he saw the movie he was like disappointed that Dustin Hoffman would do this I'm like, oh, come on. Just think of what a phenomenal actor Dustin Hoffman is. Yeah. He wi...
Yeah, yeah, you take care up there and, uh, let's hear it for the summertime. Absolutely, I'm ready for it, but they're predicting some more snow for our direction. No, oh no. Oh well, take care. Take care now. Bye, bye. Bye, bye. Where do you get most of your news? I watch the MACNEIL LEHRER news hour, and I subscribe...
No, I'm in San Antonio. Oh, really, okay. I get my news from a combination of sources. I take the paper every day Uh-huh. and I read it on the way in to work on the, in a carpool. Oh, really. Uh-huh. And, uh, and I watch the, uh, actually I watch the morning news before I leave for work. And then, you know, usually ove...
Um, the MACNEIL LEHRER news hour is on public television Uh-huh. and I enjoy that quite a bit. Yeah. Um, one of the women that I work with, her husband is Iranian. Uh-huh. So here lately with all the Middle Eastern news we've had some very interesting conversations over lunch. I will admit I work with, uh, someone who'...
the, I understand that the MacNeil Lehrer probably doesn't. They, um, tend to spend quite a bit of time on one story. Uh-huh. They will have maybe two or three main stories and just spend a very large amount of time. Sort of like the, uh, what is that, A B C's NIGHTLINE. Uh-huh. Well, I guess they only normally stick w...
Although, um I'm only twenty-five, so I've never actually been through a period of war Uh-huh. and I don't know anyone in the military and I don't have a lot of background knowledge in, uh, military strategy and, and weaponry, and, and all that kind of stuff. And I thought the generals were very interesting. Now when t...
You know, one of the best television news shows that I saw during the war was a show on a Saturday morning on A B C, and it was for children Uh-huh. and it was hosted by Peter Jennings, and it was so interesting because they were relating the war to these children in their studio, and they also had children calling in ...
but there was a, a, a big push with the local T V stations to have little hot lines with counselors to, to help parents learn how to talk about their war with their children. Uh-huh. I thought that was a really unusual thing. And our local H E B stores here, I don't know if it's H E B statewide or whatever, but they ha...
That's true. That's true. So I don't think there's ever been a war that's been so thoroughly covered by the news. And spot in the probably more importantly, one that lasted short enough that, that people's interest didn't flag too badly. Yeah. I tell you what, the first three days, I was glued to the television. I will...
and they would, they would switch back to one of their Israel bureaus, and the people would be standing there in gas masks, and you'd be hearing the sirens, and it was just, I was amazed. Uh-huh. I, I didn't have that experience. I, I don't have cable Oh. so I, I'm pretty much limited to P B S, which I thought, I thoug...
Do you have just one paper, or do you have several? No. There are two, and they're pretty close. Uh, the one that I picked is more similar in format to the newspaper, I grew up near Houston Uh-huh. and there are two major newspapers there that run pretty much neck and neck, and the one I picked here had the same format...
and I can afford that. Yeah. I, I find the news reporting in the MORNING NEWS to be better, but I sort of have a liberal political slant, and the MORNING NEWS just has an incredibly conservative editorial, um, outlook. And my, My fiancee takes probably six Sunday papers. I get the TIMES HERALD just to balance that out ...
Yeah. Uh, uh, I tend to agree with you, uh, you know, probably pretty similar views on it, but that's, that's one of the things I don't, don't understand is, is so much of the controversy because, uh, you know, I, I do also, myself, believe in capital punishment, uh, uh, you know, it, it really irks me to see so much e...
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what aggravates a lot of people, is somebody does get a life sentence in place of the death penalty, and they wind up back on the streets after five years or six years or like the kid on the news tonight out in Mesquite who was out in six months. Uh-huh. Yeah, it's, it's just our criminal sys...
and that's, that's certainly no kind of deterrent, and I would tend to agree with anybody who says right now that it, it's not a terrent, a deterrent, because it's not. No, it's not. You think of your chances of getting the death penalty after uh, committing a crime are really pretty slim right now. And you can, probab...
he's sitting on death row for eight years after having killed four people, and the State still can't bring itself to, to execute, this guy. To, yeah, to carry it out. It sort of takes the justice out of the justice system. It does, it really does, you know. She, and they have to go back, uh, occasionally, you know, she...
Yeah, right. A victim, not only of, indirectly of the crime, but also indirectly by that, indirect involvement. Right. It's just, it's, it's ridiculous. She, She's an emotional victim Yeah. Yeah, it, it's terrible, you know and, And, you know, the, like you say, the cops are out doing the work day by day have got to ha...
Well, that's about five minutes, so unless you've got something else, well, Yeah. No It's a pleasure talking with you. All right, Ron, we'll see you later. Okeydoke, good-bye. Bye-bye. Okay. Tell me about your home. Well, it's an older home. It was made back in the early sixties. It's a pier beam house. Huh-uh. Got thr...
Oh, okay. I see. Is that pretty typical for your area? Well, for the neighborhood I'm in, yeah, Yeah. This is one of the more established neighborhoods, Huh-uh. That sounds real interesting. I live in a suburb of Dallas and, uh, I live in the basic three bedroom, two bath home. So, at least, I have two bathrooms. That'...
About half of that, about a quarter acre of that, I've got a garden. Huh-uh. Oh, that's nice. Because I have just like a very small, you know, those basic tract houses, like that. We have a very small yard and, um, I do have garden, but it's extremely small, but, uh, it seems like, though, for your area that, that is s...
hopefully, eventually, we'll move in a larger home. The only thing that I don't like also is the rooms are so small. You know, it's very difficult to arrange furniture and things like that, so. Are your rooms in your house bigger since it's a sixties home? Because it seems like then, that they built the homes much larg...
It really does, except when you have to fill them up and then you get those Visa bills in. And Yeah. So anyway, um, anything else about the area, about, um, you know, can you compare yourself to any thing around there. Most of the neighborhood I'm in is pretty typical. This whole neighborhood was built between sixty an...
and, Do you. You must have more time than, than I have. I'm sitting out here right now. We had this terrible rain and I'm looking at the yard and seeing how tall the grass has gotten and it seems like now that's, that's, I almost wish I was in an apartment or something. You know, It's rained Yeah. Well, um, I don't kno...
I mean, do people around that area seem to do a lot of renovation? Yeah. This entire neighborhood, everybody keeps the places up real nice. Yeah. That's, that's nice. Yeah, the town that I came from is, uh, is a, uh, older town, it like, the typical, the typical homes there are like, you know, early nineteen hundreds l...
That's true. If given the choice, I'm getting out. Oh, really. Well, I have lived in a small town for, you know, this, this town was like less than ten thousand people and it was about sixty miles south of Dallas. And, you know, I didn't move out of there until I was, you know, twenty-seven and that was just, you know,...
Yeah. It sounds like you enjoy working outside as well. I, I, Very much. yeah. I really do enjoy that. But I haven't planted anything yet or, you know, I usually have gotten flowers coming out the but I, I haven't done that, yet. I've had finals this week. So, uh, you know, I'm just kind of trying to, trying to stick ...
I'm not real sure what they're going to do this year. I never have much luck with tomatoes. I do plant a lot of beans, because it seems like, the, uh, bugs get on them so easily and I have a real problem with anything like pesticides or anything like that, so, the only thing that I use is soap. I water, you know, spray...
so it won't make you sick. Let's see what else do you do to your house? Well, I've done some rewiring on it. Yeah. Eventually, if we stay here, I'm going to have to rewire the entire house. Oh, really. Do you plan on like adding any rooms or, you have enough space you could probably do that. Or is it, I've talked about...
And that was even just with two people. That was a pain. The only thing that saves it, with the schedule I work and the schedule my wife works, we're getting ready to go to work at totally different times. So that. It's not like we're tripping over each other in the morning. That's good. Really. That could account for ...
I guess, he's a big help out in your garden. Right. He likes to dig around a little bit. His mother comes in and says, why did you let him play in the dirt, I guess he's enjoying himself. That's right. It's healthy, why not. Yeah. He was eating the dirt, I wouldn't worry about it. No. It won't hurt them. I was a big di...
Yeah. So you're just the opposite from me. You want to go back to that, uh, After we got married we moved, ended up moving to the Houston area. Yeah. Yeah. So are you from Texas? Yeah. You are. So it's not, you know, that's true Houston, in itself, is a pretty tough place. Okay, I'm back on. Okay. Um, you say you watch...
Oh, so ... And then sometimes OPRAH and sometimes DONAHUE, but now it's mainly evenings. Do you have any that you like well enough that you tape them when you're not going to be there? Yes. Which ones? I tape THIRTY SOMETHING, and L A LAW. Oh. Those are the two I like the best. Oh, two they're going to change. Well, on...
Oh, well. Well ... So we don't watch, uh, that type of show, but we like L A LAW. We like, that. Uh-huh. We're just, I'm sorry they're breaking the team up, because we liked all the ones that were on there. I know. I'm amazed. I'm not sure I like the new ones too much. Huh-uh. I'm surprised that, I was surprised at the...
Isn't that funny? It hasn't hurt him at all. So do you, do you mostly like this type of like a story type of thing that lasts an hour? Oh, I don't usually like stuff that continues. That's why I'm surprised I like those two shows, because usually I like, you know, stuff that just ends sort of, that you just, you don't ...
I, I guess I'm, I'm not into real heavy stuff. L A LAW is about the heaviest thing I watch. I, I'll, mostly I'm into it for relaxation, Yeah. so I like things like GOLDEN GIRLS or CHEERS or, uh, Monday night is real good with me, you know, MAJOR DAD and, and, uh, NORTHERN EXPOSURE and, and, uh, oh, what's that one with...
and, uh, it's really, um, and robots probably. But there's always a, a moral to each story. And what night is it on? Well, we watched it, the times we've seen it, it's been like on or, excuse me, Friday night. Uh, but it's, we've only seen it a couple of times. But it, it's real, the first one we saw, um, they were, it...
and she said, "You can't do that." Huh. "This is tradition. This is what old people are supposed to be, thrown over the, the cliff." And, uh, he said, "I don't understand." It's, it's real funny that they give the teenagers the, as the one that questions, uh, the, what's going on. Uh-huh. And, uh, in the end of, uh, th...
So he didn't go howl? No, he wouldn't go howl, so all the, all the people that worked with the father ostracized him Oh, how funny. It is. It, it, it's, it's real interesting to watch the show, and, and the relationship between the family is, is really now, now the mother-in-law lives in the house with them. Huh. So it...
And, and, uh, they ... There's not many half hour shows, it seems like that, Yeah, it, it, they, they're trying to liken the, the father in there of the teenage son to like JACKIE GLEASON SHOW. Uh, the way he talks to his mother-in-law and so forth, Uh-huh. and I guess maybe there are some parts of that, but I didn't r...
Uh-huh. but I, I, and I'll watch snippets of baseball games and I, I just don't have that much time to sit and watch the whole thing. Uh-huh. And I don't ever, no matter what's on, I don't ever just sit and watch T V. I'm usually either doing dishes, or I may be sewing, or, you know, I always have, or letter writing, I...
It's, it's, uh, That's why I don't get to watch that much. I mean, I, watch nine o'clock Right. I do okay, because the kids are all in bed, but before that, I really, there's not much time. Right. Or like at six thirty I'll watch WHEEL OF FORTUNE or something like that. Right, well, our, yeah, if our if our grandchildr...
It's, it's, um, oh, and, you know, the, the kids will get you started on stuff like AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS. We've wound up sending in one. That's something I didn't think that we'd ever do Did you send one? Yeah. My oldest grandson pulling his tooth. He's, he's, he wouldn't let us pull it, How funny. and I mean...
Uh-huh. I also have a P C at work that I use as a terminal. I do some P C stand alone work on it, and I can transfer data back and forth between the P C and the main frame. Uh-huh. What about you? Do you own a computer? Um, well I sort of own a computer. We have two P C at home, but neither one do we really own. Um. Ar...
Um, I, actually I'm doing consulting right now because I just had a baby, and my husband's working at Bell Labs, but he's really from France, and these computers actually are from France. What brand are they? One of them's a Compaq Uh-huh. it's a three eighty-six I'm jealous. and the other is actually a I B M P C compa...
Uh-huh. and then I worked for Dragon Systems for a while. What kind of work do you do when you're consulting? Um, well, it depends, it's very different in the different places, but, Is it programming related? Yeah, yeah. Program related, research related, and I work in the speech field, and I do a lot metacoustic phone...
so I don't, I don't use, I mean, you can call it word processing, but I don't usually use a word processor to do it Uh-huh and we don't have too much standard software. Like I haven't bought, we haven't really bought any commercially available software at all. So we don't use it for things like our accounts and address...
I used it, uh, quite a bit when I was, uh, uh, looking at, uh, information on a large bulletin board sponsored by a newspaper in a, in Fort Worth Uh-huh. but, uh, went out of town for a while, and, and sort of got off the, uh, bulletin board and off of my micro completely Uh-huh. and after a while the modem started mak...
Are you at home now? Yeah, I'm at home. So you've got a lot of traffic noise real close. Uh-huh. So it'd be interesting for the people that look at this signal I mean, because there's a lot of background noise that, you know, people can hear. So it'll be interesting how much of it actually gets picked up. Um, yeah, and...
Uh, I know someone who has, and, and she's, uh, very, uh, pleased with it. She told me some of the things you can do, and it's just a, a very handy tool to have. Uh-huh. Yeah, and you can do a it makes things very convenient. You can save a lot of money, too. Certainly cut down on long distance charges if you, if that'...
not heavy use. I've used, uh, D Base and, uh, I've used a substantial amount of shareware. Um, I haven't done much Lotus work connected with my job. I've been through three classes Uh-huh. and I have a great deal of respect for it. Uh-huh. Um, I haven't done much word processing work with my job. I do some Uh-huh. and ...
Yeah, people told me that it was sort of cumbersome to use. I can understand that very easily. I've used, I've had a class on, um, R Base and also in Paradox Uh-huh. and both of those seem very easy to use compared to D Base. Uh-huh. Do you think you D Base is more flexible or allows you to do more. Or do you think the...
I do, uh, mainly business data processing. Uh-huh. I also handle production support for the systems in my area of responsibility. Uh-huh. Um, sometimes I get called late at night at home because there's a production problem, and that gives me the opportunity to, uh, come in to work and fix it, if I can't think of some ...
I think it's, uh, would everyone grow up and mature and, and realize what this country's all about. I just, um, I guess that's my, that's something that my family has always believed strongly in, and, uh, I had opportunities in high school, to work in some programs, um Did you? something Oh! and, and I agree with what ...
Well, I think sometimes through groups and organizations, um, my first, when I first thought of it, I thought it, uh, when they asked the question I thought, well that sounds wonderful. And then, I wondered if people were unwilling but, but I think even if you went in with a negative attitude I don't think it would sta...
Where, uh, where abouts do you live? What part of the country? Well, I live in Richardson right now. Which is just, Oh, okay. We're in Plano so we're not far apart. Right. Yeah, okay. One of the calls I'd gotten before was, uh, down to Austin and, and I know, a friend of mine talked to someone in the midwest so I know ...
And, uh, I think it was just of course it was back in the, in the fifties and I think it was real prevalent back then. I I think people thought more of others than they do now. You know, as far as doing things for them and, and then gaining benefits from it. Yeah. Well, and maybe, uh, maybe this would be a way to get t...
I think, uh, I think it does help, um, even preschoolers, you know they're, um, things even just starting around the home. You know Right. little ones can do a little bit to help the family. Uh-huh. And, and just watching the parents do things too, um, it can start a pattern. There's always something, no matter how yo...
Uh-huh. I mean, that's, uh, gosh I'm sure, not even one percent of the world is as fortunate as these areas and, uh it's, That's probably true. That's probably true. I know our church youth group, uh, starts with projects young but they have a high school group that works in the Appalachia area every year. Uh-huh. Th...
So, if two weeks, uh, could have that kind of effect I would think, uh, Well, that's, that's great. I'm glad that there are still some areas that, that get the youth involved in that sort of thing. Well that's, Like I said, I think it does, even a small amount of exposure can make a vast difference in their attitudes...
Okay. Bye, bye. Bye Okay. Do you, have you ever had to put your children in, child care, Mary Dell? Oh yes. I'm an old experienced hand. I started back when it wasn't, stylish to do that at all. My daughter that's seventeen now I worked even when she was a baby. Uh-huh. Oh. And I had private care for both my daughters ...
So, it worked well. Oh. How about you? Well, I have, uh, a nine year old and a six year old and neither one of them has ever been in in, uh, day care for the reason of, of me working Uh-huh. Uh-huh. but, uh, they both went through preschool. Yeah. And, uh, we've just been real lucky I think, anyway. To not, Uh-huh. It...
but they were so, seemed, cold and impersonal, I just couldn't hack it. Uh-huh. And what I liked about Preston Hollow is that the people that were there when Cheryl was two, which was fifteen years ago, many of them are still there today. So there was real continuity. Oh. She went back as a teenager and these people t...
that is, uh, a big drawback I think in that, in the, uh, public schools out here. You know, to, Uh-huh. you're lucky to have an art teacher and if you do you get them once a week or something, you know. Or pay for it after school. Our Emily's in the third grade over at Huffman and they started a pilot program where we ...
That's true. Well even the preschools, you know they get so much of that in preschool and then when they hit kindergarten, you know, it's like wham Culture shock. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, Put the colors away Yeah, yeah. Get the computers out Which is too bad. and, you know. Uh-huh. hard. Uh-huh. It's so difficult for th...
Yeah, both times they were at our house. Uh-huh. So you were able to have somebody come there. And that was hard too. I, I lucked out with really good people both times but I know so many people that are never able to find that and I'd practically give my paycheck away to do it, so Yeah. Yeah. Did you have a nanny or d...
Uh-huh. And she was neat because she was like the grandmother that my kids never had because both our parents are dead. Yeah. Oh. So that, that was a plus from that respect as well. Oh gosh. And then with Emily it was a neighborhood friend that kept her. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So, I have, uh, I just cannot fathom putting a ...
Uh-huh. and they've now moved it to Washington, D C and the, the doctor that was on there, the pediatrician said, you know, I can't imagine leaving a three week old and taking them to a nursery day-care and leaving them there. Yeah. Oh that would be hard. You know, so, um, Well, they give a lot more leave. I work at ...
And that helps because you don't have to just wean yourself cold turkey and say okay, I never get to see my baby for eight hours a day again. Yeah. Right. Right. And the bank has a lot of programs now for child care referrals. I've, of course it's too late for me so I've, I've not tried them to see how effective they...
Uh-huh. Right. they have children. Yeah. So, it's only to their advantage that they get these programs going and working Oh sure. and, uh, You retain employees and keep them longer. That's, that was the rationale they gave when they were giving us information about our Employee Assistance Programs that they want us t...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And they usually, you know, you'll find a, a woman that's keeping like six children or four to six children in the home Uh-huh. and my future, future sister-in-law's mother does that too, full-time. Well in Plano though the problem is, you find, and this is what I found with Emily. I, from the time she ...
Okay. Well, let's see, well, we keep our paper, paper bags lined up in the garage for glass and, glass and, uh, plastics and, uh, we make the dump over to the Wal-Mart bins there as soon as they're full. I guess we collect milk cartons and whatever other plastics are acceptable. Are you in the part of town where, uh, t...
and I say, well, they work fine and I keep mine outside the garage so that I don't have any odors but it's clearly a place where, uh, uh, Oh, right. it will be interesting to see how well that works and I am, I'm glad the community is doing it. Uh, it's one of those things that kind of has to be forced on people. Uh, I...
You could just leave the milkman a note on what you needed Yeah. and so you just put the empty ones back out there and he took them away and put, you know, put another gallon of glass, glass bottle in there. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, So, uh, you know, I look back at, at, uh, my childhood and I'd say, you know, they were doin...
I didn't know, you know, I didn't know if we started to do that. I didn't know what to expect. Yeah, well I'll have to say I'm, I'm, the only one I'm good at at this point is the newspaper. Uh, taking that to the Boy Scouts and my aluminum cans uh, getting rid of those, Right. but on the plastic, I have, uh, I don't ha...
I, well that's interesting because, they're back to glass, you're saying? They were glass, they were the glass, uh, well, let's see, they'd be, I don't know, maybe ten ounce or six ounce or ten ounce. Sort of a small size, sort of a small size and, and we, anyway we just, we didn't stop and look them, look at them a lo...
Yeah, yeah, well, Well, it will be interesting to see how, over the next year, this all works out because, like on the, uh, grass, I'm, I know your husband, uh, doesn't really like the paper sacks. No, he doesn't like the paper sacks and, uh, but he, but, you know, he likes to pick the grass up, too. He doesn't, Doesn'...
Well, there's someplace, you know, if it's, because really, when I look at what my grass does in, in actually about twenty-four hours, uh, knowing what the farmers do in rural areas, they just take their hay and just build a big mound of it and it naturally, uh, composts or stores and, uh, so all you have to do is just...
I, um, I was thinking about it for a long time, and I like basically almost every form of music and type of music. Um, I don't have a whole lot of dislikes. I, um, like jazz, um, especially the blues, and, uh, I like, uh, a lot of the, uh, of course the classics, um, everything back from Bach and, and Beethoven and Cho...
Um. Do you like rap? Um, some of it, um, it depends. I like, uh, the rap, the two types of rap I like, or I enjoy to listen to, and one is the, the rap that is just funny, um, and they usually do a lot of satire Yeah um. that kind I kind of like. Right. Some of it is kind of pointless, Right, the monotonous the monoton...
yeah. I like the funny, satire, and then some of it is, some of it actually gets into some serious discussions of problems in our, in urban society. Yeah. It really does. It talks about, um, race relations and police relations and, um, that, that I guess I don't really care to listen to rap that much except for once in...
Yeah, that's, that's about my opinion of that yeah It's, it's okay, um, Some of it kind of falls in the rap category I guess, so Um. The thing about country western that I don't enjoy is is, doesn't seem to be any imagination behind it Yeah. the, one country and western song sounds like every other, country and western...
has kind of the same sound over and over, and the other thing I don't like about it is they have a tendency to play the instrumental so loud that you can't understand what the lyrics are Um. Right. you can't understand what they're saying on some of those songs which probably is just as well on some of them, too. Yeah....
I'm from Dallas, Texas. Oh, really? Yeah, so, Oh, that's neat. Well, did you understand what this was for, you know, what it was for, what we, Uh, television shows? Yeah Sure, that sounds good. Okay I, I don't watch too many, but we can try it. Okay. Are you ready to start? Sure am. Okay, just a minute Okay, I guess we...
Yeah, okay. What are your favorite television shows? Well, I don't really watch too many T V shows other than, uh, occasionally I'll, I'll turn on DONAHUE because it comes on in the morning when I seem to be getting ready around here. Oh, really? And, uh, so if, if there's no one else around, you know, it's just me and...
I guess I watch it more out of the uniqueness of it and the time that it comes on more than the fact that I have to see it. But, Have you seen the show, it's, it's new this year, called HOME FRONT? No, I haven't watched that. Oh, it's, it's really good. It's, uh, I think it's on like Tuesday nights from ten to eleven U...
Uh, I prefer OPRAH WINFREY to DONAHUE Oh, yeah. Well, she comes on later and I usually have kids around so I don't end, end up watching that one is the only problem I have with it, I guess. Oh. I did watch soap operas, but I work full-time now and can't catch those anymore. Except when I'm home sick, Yeah and now when ...
I like that show. Yeah. And if I can stay up late enough, I like to catch SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE every now and then. Oh, uh-huh. And right now we're watching a Penn State football game because that's where we live. Oh, yeah. So Uh-huh. It's exciting, we're winning, so that's really exciting. Yeah, well, I think, I also, c...
We'll catch our news that way. Watch the weather channel so that we know what the weather's going to be like. Yeah, yeah. So what have you seen interesting on OPRAH WINFREY lately? Lately, I haven't been catching it because of my work schedule. Uh-huh. Uh, I can't remember the last time I saw it. It's been a while. Yea...
No, no, just, uh, doing this as a fund-raiser for our church. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, so it kind of makes it easy, you know, to do a little something for it. Sure, because we, uh, we've talked to a lot of people from Texas, it seems, and we thought, well, maybe they work from, for Dallas, All right. I think that gets us...