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You know, just going for it, they take it quickly. Uh-huh. And, uh, they don't think anything of that. And I don't, you know, that's makes people resentful too. And so, And yet they have, they have a right to be here Sure, sure. and I know that. Uh-huh. But it's, it sometimes it's gets touchy. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So, and I...
Uh-huh. And I, I'm sure that it's a lot different there. Uh, it's a lot different in than, in Iowa than it is here. Well, no. Is that right? And with the same, you know, some of the, some of the same problems that you've mentioned. But, uh, I don't know, I guess I wasn't involved enough to, to, uh, really stop to think...
exactly. Right, right. So anyway, Well, it was good talking to you. It was good to talk to, to you too. And I And have a good trip in California. Okay. And have a good weekend. All right. Well thank you. all righty, Bye-bye. Bye-bye Okay, do you have any, uh, ideas on universal health insurance? Do you have any strong ...
You do? uh, I think, given, uh, given, well given that there are so many people who don't have health insurance. It's probably a real smart thing, at least to have some basic coverage for everyone. Uh-huh. I mean, you hear these horror stories of people, homeless people going to the hospital and, and being thrown out...
but I think that it's a pretty poor, they get a lot lower quality care than we do. Now, I know some people don't agree with me, but, uh, I know you have to wait real long time to get, for certain surgeries that aren't emergency, and you don't have the kind of choices that we have here, Yeah. And, uh, I've worked a lot ...
Oh, that's a problem. Yeah. Yeah, because I know, I know even among, even now, the way we have it now, there are still. It's getting worse, isn't it? Yeah, I mean like we have, an H M O allows us to pick our own physicians. Yeah. Right, right. I mean I picked a primary care physician and just didn't like him, you know...
So maybe, that's like the extreme of it. Do you think? Yeah, yeah, that is the extreme, and what that, what that I think that tends to do though is I think that tends to, it probably has two, a good and a bad side, for young people wanting to become doctors. Which again a lot of people who are motivated, because the m...
or people also get the feeling that, well jeez, you know, you don't have to worry about, you have a lot of job security there, and it's more of, uh, seniority, I would imagine kind of thing, instead of having a skill or, or whatever to advance, Yeah. That's true. so you don't necessarily get the kind of quality control...
Oh, yeah. and I think hospitals do make money, but not nearly as much as insurance companies. Oh, right. No. I think they are really making a killing and nobody is talking about it. Nobody's, Yeah, they are the ones who make, I mean they are the ones, they have, you know, the although, I mean, it's the unfortunate part...
But you know their, you know. Mistakes, you know. Their mistakes are made. Right. Everybody makes mistakes, unfortunately. Sure. It shouldn't be a billion dollar, you know, industry. Yeah. and this is, this is their compensation. Not, So, yeah, I think that's the legal part of it coming into it to. Yeah, that is a big ...
I mean I'm sort of in a, in a government run medicine program. Sort of. I'm in a, Are you? Well, well I'm a graduate student. Okay. And, uh. At where? Oh, okay. Uh-huh. I'll bet you are in Texas. I what? I'm in Texas yeah, yeah. I was going to bet that, okay. Uh, yeah, Uh-huh.
Oh, great. Yeah. And because the university, the university offers me two plans. They offer what they call the mandatory version, which is basically major medical Oh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay. And, they don't, and even though my, my wife's insurance covers me, for everything, I still have to pay them a hundred and some o...
Oh, my gosh. but you know, it's just one of these things where I just don't want to spend my time. How can they, how can they make you pay for insurance coverage? Well, the reason, their rational is, is they make everyone pay for it so that it, it keeps the cost of university health services down, and everyone can use ...
Now, as it turns out, as it turns out, uh, my wife and I have chosen to use the university as, health services as our primary care facility. Uh-huh. We can do that. Oh, good. So, in, in, but in effect, I'm paying twice for one service. So, You are, you are I know. And see that's the thing, that is the thing, now that ...
I just can't afford anymore. Yeah. It's, it's just outrageously. It's just starting to get me angry, and for the first time in my life. I am starting to feel like I, I. Yeah. Well that's, that's certainly true, I mean, if I can't afford to have some kind of optional operation for myself. Because our, our medical covera...
You know, stuff like that has happened with education and with other things that you hear about and it's just, Wait a minute You know, my kids aren't getting that. How come their, their kids are getting that? Yeah. Exactly, I don't, I don't, uh. And I know it's only in a few cases and I don't want them to, uh, to cut f...
Right. Well, yeah, that's, and it's, uh, it's funny because a couple of years ago, I heard a quote from Winston Churchill. Let's see if I can remember it, anybody who's not a liberal in his twenties has no heart, and a person who is not a conservative in his fifties has no brain. It was something like that That's proba...
I mean everywhere you, you look, you are getting something new. I mean, you start off, you know, especially, uh, Yeah. you guys I believe in Texas you don't have state tax, do you? No, no income tax. Right, we have, we have federal income tax. State income tax, local income tax. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Wow. So on top of the fed...
Okay. All righty. Uh-huh. Probably some of that is divorce and some is they're more educated than they used to be I think. Uh-huh. Uh, I think sometimes, uh, leaders in government they've become more, uh, adroit in that area, too, instead of just men all the time. Uh-huh. We have more women in government. Uh-huh. And, ...
and, and I see for my daughter, which is wonderful this, she's thirteen and I see a whole wonderful world out there that she can choose from, Uh-huh. so many different jobs, which I think is terrific. Yes. Because I'm a teacher and, I mean, I love teaching, but, there, I think there are a lot of other things I would ha...
and, and most all, they always either have they're either moonlighting or else their, their wife works, too. Right. Uh, it's just an economic need now. I really think women have so much more responsibility than, you know, as far as everything. Oh, definitely. And, like you said, uh, one, women today have so many, uh, t...
And, uh, but I'm all, I'm really grateful that I went to college. My mother always said, you know, get an education in case you need one, because my father died when we were, I have a twin sister and we were eleven when he died and she had a nursing degree, Uh-huh. and she was able to make it. But, she said in you neve...
But I think it needs to continue to change and I I think it, there's still not equality as far as, uh, paychecks for men and women. I think that the, we still have a long way to go. A lot of things, yeah. Uh-huh. And I think that, uh, I think by the year two thousand it, we're going to see some, a lot more changes, uh,...
I mean, not that I, I think that I'm equal to men because there's a lot of things that men can do that I, could never do strength wise and so forth Right. but, also there's some things women can do like have children, that men can't do. Right. So, you know, it, I don't I don't want to be equal but, I, I want to be, I ...
Definitely Well, great, okay. Well, it was good to talk to you. Good to talk to you, Sally. All right. Thanks. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Okay. Um, I don't have any, I guess, definite views about elderly care. Um, the first thing that comes to mind is kind of those horror movies that you see, where elderly people are abused an...
a group that I'm a part of goes once a month to a, um, they call it the Heritage House. Uh-huh. It's, it's a nursing home for elderly people. Uh-huh. And this particular one has people that are in pretty bad shape. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And, um, I watched, the interesting thing was I watched this particular one change hands....
The, you know, the floors, you could just, if you're walking on them, feel how filthy they were. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, there were a lot of people just kind of up and down the halls laying in their beds hollering and, you know, crying, Oh, my goodness. Of course, I don't know how many of them were, you know, not in their...
Uh-huh. I just think they were not doing anymore, you know, than they had to do. And, um, just kind of letting everybody live in a not very good environment Uh-huh. But this new company came in and they, like I said, they remodeled the place. Uh-huh. And it smells nice when you walk in. And it looks nice. And they got ...
And my biggest fear would, that they would be, is that they would be lonely. Right. And I would like to know that there are, you know, just a lot of activities, like you said, you know, just putting a plant in a room, You know. Just makes, just brightens and, and, and just makes them, just a little more active. Right...
But, Well, they, uh, this place that we visit, it's really neat. They have, everyday, they have schedules of groups that come in. Uh-huh. And they will do bingo. Our group does a church service once a month. Uh-huh. And then other groups come in and do the services, you know, other Sundays, Uh-huh. So that they have at...
Yeah, it is. It's real nice. And, um, I know our church does it and there are a lot of other churches, and they are just like civic organizations, that do. Right. Uh-huh. And, uh, I have other friends. It's kinds of neat, they take animals over and let the people pet them. Oh. Like they also have a dog that maybe need...
That's really neat. Yeah. Yeah. That really is. I thought that was a real unusual thing, for someone to do. Uh-huh. So, yeah, there's a lot that can be done. Uh-huh. It's just a matter of people not being lazy. Right. And, you know, doing the best they can. Again, I don't know what I'd do if it was my own mother or gra...
And I know that's hard sometimes and, but it would really have to be a last resort, because that would just, Yeah. Yeah. I would feel so guilty. Yeah. Yeah. I would, too. I don't know. Yeah, right. Yeah. I know. I know what you mean. I don't know anyone personally that's in an elderly home. Yeah. Well, I have interes...
Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. and then the next time I go it's the same thing, you know, that, just somebody to listen to them. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh, just seems to make them really feel good. Nod your head and smile at them. Right. I'll tell you the people I feel the sorriest for, there's a guy at this particular one I go to, that...
Right. And if you come over to him, if he can touch your hand, he'll grab it and kiss it. Oh. Oh, and he's always got a smile. I mean, he really tries to, brighten up your life. Oh, it's just amazing. Oh. But he can't say anything. He can just kind of make noises. That's something, that, if I had to work in an elderly ...
I know. And so I mean something real life, I just, Uh-huh. I interview a lot of children, I'm an education reporter, Uh-huh. and I always go and do an education things. Uh-huh. I meet these kids who are, you know, dropping out of school left and right. Yeah. And all the sudden, they're in this program. They're making s...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and all they want is just for everything to be happy, Yeah. and you know, Yeah. Oh, it does. Yeah. Yeah, it is, it's really hard and, But one of the neatest things I think though is we always take our kids. Uh-huh. I have a three year old and a six year old, Uh-huh. and they, um, have gotten comfortabl...
And they want the children, you know, to hug them or hold their hand and, so far, my kids will do it. Just real easily, Uh-huh. and I think it's because they've gone since they were real little, Yeah. and they've never been afraid. But that's something, to me children, you know, need to, Uh-huh. people need to take gr...
That's true. You know, they feel like they've lived life so they need to share it. Yeah. And I'm sure I'll be like that, too. Well, me, too. Yeah. Yeah. It's quite an experience. But, that's great. I didn't know there were such groups. Yeah. Yeah there are. And, and, uh, it really helps those people, I think. Uh-huh. B...
And I would hate it if anyone put me in one. Oh, I know. I'm always afraid like, oh, no, what if I lose my mind. Yeah. Am I going to end up in a place like that Somebody take care of me. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Well. Okay, well, nice to talk to you. Yeah. You, too, Tonya . Thanks for calling. Uh-huh. Bye-bye. Bye.
So have you got a pet. no, I don't, an my kids would love a pet. I had a pet when I was a girl. I had a Cocker Spaniel. And I think one thing about pets is they're a lot of company. Yeah, You can, you can tell them anything and they won't tell anybody. That's right, that's like unconditional affection. Right, as a matt...
My pet, uh, was hit by a car New Year's Eve, but, uh, Oh! like a I'm going to get another one as soon as I get back in town. I'm going out of town this weekend, when I get back I'm going to find a cat. So, Oh, I'm so sorry. But that's good that you're going to get another one. Yeah. I know some of my friends who have p...
and my, my kids, And that's, it's kind of fun. um, they really want a dog badly, and they've been looking and looking and want, you know, they'd take anything I think Yeah. but, um, I don't know do you like, I guess your cat was an indoor cat. No it was an kind of indoor, outdoor, it, it was, It kind of traveled around...
when I had a Cocker Spaniel it, it was an outdoor dog and, uh, I think I liked that better. Yeah, I, I, think, you know, I like dogs, but I think that, uh, I'm, kind of like big big dogs and you have to have room for them. Yeah, that's true. And dogs take a lot of, a lot more care than cats do. Cats are pretty independ...
Yeah, I see all the people on, on Sunday going for a walk with their dogs and, and I, I'm kind of skeptical with my son getting a dog, I'm like I know it will be fun the first week maybe, Yeah. and then mom gets to take care of it, or something. So, I Yeah, I got to take care of a friend of mine's dog. He's just got a ...
That, that kind of gripes on me some, but, but I don't know. Well if you're, if you're going to have a pet, and not have it neutered or spayed you need to be willing to, you know deal with the consequences, take care of the offspring More and more people are, Right, right. and, and I think, you know, But, uh, when I w...
I think our community is a lot more conscious now though too, and, and that's good too. Yeah. Well, I think that's all I have to say. Okay, Okay, have a good night. All right, bye-bye. Bye. Okay, what kind of do you have children? Yeah, we have one that's seventeen, one that's fifteen, and one that's just now six. Oh, ...
Oh. So, he started the first grade when he was five Uh-huh. yeah, first grade when he was five years old. And you had trouble finding somewhere for him to be before he was five. Yeah, Uh-huh. so, we could, you know, we tried to find him someplace where he could learn something. Right. And it was, uh, mediocre expensiv...
It's hard to find anywhere they're really going to learn something. Yeah, well, And then, yeah, you do have to pay, you know, if you, the better the place, the more you're going to pay. Yeah, but parents pay when they stay home with them anyway True, very true. It's, You know, my wife works so, it costs us more for he...
and I just see different things all the time, Yeah. and people are just crazy these days. They're crazy and, and I don't, you know, Yeah. it takes me a, takes me a long time to just trust someone as a friend, much less to, you know, trust someone with my, with my child. Yeah. Well, see we took our time and we checked...
we, had those requirements, Uh-huh. so, I guess that's the best way, you know, to get, recommendations from your friends or, family members. Yeah. I know, I'm, well, that and, you know, I don't think I would have left him anywhere that would, I would have stayed home with him first, before I left him somewhere that,...
But you never know. Yeah. Yeah. just simple things, that can be harmful. But you, you know, as, as far as child abuse is these days you never know, Uh-huh. you don't know who you can trust, and who you can't, you know. Huh. Then you hear so much, you know, on the news about, uh, child care places and also, um, senio...
I don't. Huh-uh. Gee. No. I'm, Do you miss that part in your life or, Uh, no, I'm only, I'm twenty-three still have a little bit of time, Yeah. Yeah, yeah. um, it's just not in the cards for me right now I'm trying to get my career going. And, I imagine, Uh-huh. yeah, working in the news production, Yeah.
anyway back to the subject, Yeah. we should have discussed this earlier, but anyway, it's tough, Uh-huh. it really is, it's hard to find good child care, Uh-huh. and it's hard to find someplace where you can leave your child and trust that he's, going to be fine all day long. Uh-huh. And you brought up a good point, y...
Uh-huh. and he's, you know, got a second grade reading level and a fourth grade math level. Huh. So, you know, those early ages when he would, you know, when his mom and dad are at work, and he's actually in child care in a preschool not, just child care, you know, we could have sent him to anybody, you know, Yeah....
I would say, no, but, you know, all my children, excel, Uh-huh. they're, they're really good, Uh-huh. and I guess, no, he learns from the older boys too but, Right. And it helps that he has older brothers, uh, you know, just to have role models and things like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, seeing like, uh, in one way we're...
Huh. he learned quite a bit from, not only from nursery school but he learned quite a bit from the older boys, Uh-huh. and, you know, he's excelled and it's paying off for him, it really is. He's, he is pretty smart, That's excellent. sometimes he's a little bit smart mouthed, Uh-huh but he is smart you know. Well, wh...
And, Do they have any kind of program like at T I or wherever your wife works, um, some in kind of day care? No, not in, Huh-uh. We just, Huh, because I know they're, they're putting that into a lot of, uh, corporations now. Yeah, they're trying to. The federal government is trying to intercede on that too, Right. so,...
Huh. and then some substitute teachers in the afternoon, Uh-huh. and they actually taught him something instead of just watching him all day. Right. You know, and then they had a group of kids and they put on skits and they put on plays, Huh. and they did the Halloween thing, and the Valentine's Day things Uh-huh. and...
I don't think he needed to be attached to too, even though he did, Uh-huh. you know, he attached himself to a couple of those, Right. but I think his attachments at home and, you know, he gets the idea of what school is for and, uh, you know, I have different teachers, here Huh. and this person can teach me one thing ...
see. But I don't have that experience, so, I can't say that, you know, he did well, Uh-huh. so, I don't think we made too many mistakes. Right. Well, it sounds good, We tried hard. sounds like he's doing real well. Yeah, he's doing real well. Huh, good. And he learned from it so, and that was the most important thing ...
Uh-huh. And they'll probably sit him in front of the television, you know, while they do other things, yeah. yeah. Yeah, and I don't, you know, I don't allow that when he's at home so, but we had a good experience, and we really did well. Well, that's good, that's good. So, and he did, he served better than we did, y...
That's probably what I'll try and look for whenever I do have my children, Yeah. I don't know when that will be, Yeah. but, um, you know, just really look into, it will, it will take me a long time to find somewhere I'm sure, just because I, I just want to be, I want to be so positive that, you know, my children are o...
It's, it's a lot more difficult these days because you have both parents working a lot of times, Oh, yeah, and, so, you have to find day care, whereas, you know, here, Most of the time now it's a necessity, Uh-huh. you can't afford, Uh-huh. so, you know, I'm not making seventy or eighty thousand dollars a year Uh-huh....
it is, yeah it is, the basic family is not there anymore. I'll agree with that, it is. It's, it's not there. Uh-huh. I think that plays a big part in, in a child's learning and, you know, what they can and cannot do in child care. Yeah. I don't think, Okay. Well let's start with you Okay, um, the last movie I saw was t...
Um, I, I don't know all the actors or anything, but it was just, it was a lot of music a lot of old songs, things like that. When was it out? Um, it's still out now, uh, it came out I guess about a month or, about a month and half ago, something like that. It's about a Black singing group. It, and, uh, it was called th...
Uh, that won best picture, I think. Uh-huh. And Costner got best director. Yeah, right now Kevin Costner, I mean, he's starring in everything. He's doing the Kennedy movie that's coming out, um, and there's one, Another Kennedy movie, huh Yeah, yeah, starring Kevin Costner, and let me see, what else. Um, he's doing som...
What have you seen? One comes to mind here and I not sure about the name, has Meryl Streep and, um, what was the name of that? Anyway the the premise of the story is that, uh, uh, uh, you go to a after you die you go to a place called Judgment City. Oh, I know what you're talking about. And, um, anyway, My. uh, I can't...
DEFENDING YOUR LIFE, and it's, it's an excellent movie, uh, Uh-huh. it's pretty entertaining, uh. Let's see, what else have I seen lately, um. One of my favorite movies, it's not one that I haven't seen, I, it's not a late movie. FATAL ATTRACTION HOME ALONE. Okay, yeah. It's probably my all time, well not all time favo...
That was a, that was a good one, too. Was that pretty funny? Yeah, it's pretty good, and, um. Yeah, yeah, somehow just never made it to see that, but I need to see it. I can't believe I'm just drawing a blank, because, I've Yeah, FATAL ATTRACTION, that, I don't know why I like that movie so much, I guess it was so much...
on that order. that was a good one too, yeah. Certainly is. But, uh. And I liked the woman that played in that, I forgot what her name is now. Yeah that's, Anne Archer she's the one, she was the wife in FATAL ATTRACTION, yeah, Oh, okay. and she played in, uh, narrow margin which was a little more recent, Uh-huh. and th...
Yeah. Uh-huh. Somehow, I mean it's hard for me to get to movies now because it's getting so expensive, you know, I'd, I'd rather rent. I know it's it's obnoxious, because you go in there and you spend six bucks a ticket, Yeah. but then you end up spending another six dollars on food. Yeah and that's just for a a bucket...
Uh-huh. Oh, yeah easily. And, uh, I don't know. And you're usually going to do, you're usually going to go to a dinner, go to dinner or something with that. I was going to say, you, you know, you can find certain restaurants that are nice, and have good food for eat for thirty dollars. Yeah. It's almost more fun really...
Well. Well that's about all the movies I've seen recently I ought to open the paper here because I know I've seen a few that have, have played. But, um, I just can't come up with any names here, Uh-huh. haven't, haven't been to one for a little while, but, um. Did you ever see KINDERGARTEN COP? No, I never did. That wa...
Yeah, whose in that? It looks, it looks pretty suspenseful. Uh-huh. Another one I saw is called the OBJECT OF BEAUTY. I don't recommend that, as much as, uh, DEFENDING YOUR LIFE, but, it was, it was all right, kind of funny. Um, but, um, what else has been on and about. Are you looking in the paper? Yeah. Oh. I'm tryin...
It was pretty scary because I was visiting a V A Hospital, uh, near to where I live and they were saying that some of the patients there, you can't leave by themselves, because they'll make a weapon out of anything, you know, out of a piece of paper, they can kill somebody, you know. Uh-huh. And this guy in SILENCE OF ...
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I'm not sure when it will be hitting video stores, it should be a while yet, though. Have you heard anything on, like, OUT FOR JUSTICE. Oh, I haven't heard anything about it. I, but I don't like Steven Seagal things, uh, so. Has he had, has he had very many other movies out? He's had OUT FOR JUSTICE a...
Yeah, yeah, that might be good, though, that might be good. I don't know, I've enjoyed a lot of his movies, Uh-huh. uh, they just, they're action filled, and a little bit of humor, Uh-huh, uh-huh. and, uh. I guess, I'm not fond of the action packed movie, where they're always chasing or fighting, or, you know, Yeah. I ...
Was that good, did you see it? I haven't, I haven't heard much lately. Uh-huh. I just remember when it first came out that it had kind of mixed reviews. Yeah, a friend of mine saw it and she said it was okay, you know, Yeah. it wasn't anything spectacular. You expect more out of, uh, Julia Roberts, though. Yeah, the pr...
because I was going to say I always enjoyed that, I, I, uh, I remember that movie, Uh-huh, uh-huh. and, uh, it was, I mean I got in to it, Yeah. I don't know if, Yeah, yeah, I really need to go see the original one, I'm sure it was a good movie, I just, I probably had a test that day, or something, I don't know. Yeah, ...
Uh-huh, yeah. you get these twists and, it's usually pretty good, but, uh. I think, I think though, that movies are losing their luster. What's that? I think movies are losing their attractiveness, just to a lot of people. Just, I think, I don't know, because of the cost and, I think it, it's just losing its originalit...
just you see the same story lines, different characters Uh-huh, yeah, exactly. it's, it's, it's hard to say. An, and I know I don't, you, know, I don't keep up with it, you know. Right. But, uh, I don't try to just for that reason, it is a, it does cost a lot, Uh-huh. so why go out and see something right away, you kno...
in Okay. Okay. I guess we're set. Um, Current events. I get my current events basically from news, uh, just because I watch, pretty much a lot of television, um, Television news? Is it, uh, C N N or HEADLINE NEWS or just local, news Uh, or, I watch a little bit of everything. I like to tune into, to C N N because, uh...
Yeah, that's good, too, uh-huh. so, So, I don't, uh, I don't see much T V mostly when I'm in school, I like K R L D. Uh-huh. but I do here. Yeah, where do you go to school? Uh, University of Texas at Dallas. Oh, Okay. I went to U T at Austin. Right. But, uh, I'm a news reporter so I, I should get all I can , my news fr...
I usually don't intentionally. Although I should, I don't intentionally turn on the television to watch news. Right. Or I don't intentionally turn on the radio to listen to the news. If it comes on, I just happen to hear it. Now, I will intentionally buy a newspaper to to, in to look at the news. But other, Yeah, all I...
I like to listen to, uh, national public radio on the way to work because it's, I don't know, it's variety, Uh-huh. It tends to get like HEADLINE NEWS if you listen to it for an hour . Yeah. Is it, is it pretty good coverage on there? Yeah, it usually is. They throw in a lot of, you know, a lot of interviews and commen...
and then they go into a lot of the issues and things where they, they spend five or ten minutes discussing something and, interviewing people. Uh-huh. Yeah, that would probably be better. And it's, Especially when you look for the, like, popular radio stations like mostly the music stations, news is, is pretty much no...
Uh, Right Yeah, But, um, a lot of people are. Yeah, trying to get out of wherever they are but, um, I think, I think news is, I'm wondering where it's going. You know how, I think it will be pretty much nonexistent except maybe through the paper. I know the newspaper used to be kind of the only source for news. And now...
It's, it takes a lot more time to read something, Yeah. and you've got news, bombarding you from everywhere now. So much more effort. Yeah. You know you, turn on the T V, turn on the radio. Yeah. But I think that soon the paper may be kind of the only source again. Why is that? I don't, well, just because I'm, I'm th...
True, yeah. True. That's true, too, yeah. Than sit down and take the effort to read the paper. Right. And they don't have to go get one, you know. One thing I like about the paper, um, as opposed in to television is that, uh, when I, like when I report, because I'm in television, I have to get the basic, the main facts...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. And it's, it's informative. It's a lot more informative than, you know, quick, half hour news shows that they tell you what they want you to hear. Yeah. Yeah, because that's what we do. I mean it's like each story is thirty seconds, you know. Right. So it's like you really have to tell as much as you ca...
and we saw it during the war just now, is that we got all the information within minutes, you know. Yeah. Whatever happened, we knew about it about the same time that they knew about it. And the question is, how much of it or how, some of it, I guess, there's a lot of debate about censorship and and what we're really s...
And she didn't know what was happening at that time. Right. And she was so happy to get the information, you know. So there's just a lot of different opinions on that. But, I, I, you know, I like to, to know what's going on. Sometimes I think there's just a little bit too much. Yeah. You know you get in the habit of, l...
Kennedy, Kennedy. You know, what kind of shoes did he wear on the night? And you know, it's just like, okay, this is ridiculous. Like who cares? Really. So, Well, But what are you doing? Sitting on a computer? Yeah. I heard the little clicking. Trying to do some C programming. Oh, okay. Well, it was nice talking to you...
Uh-huh, bye. There a lot of places to camp in Dallas? Well, not necessarily in Dallas, but it's a very short drive to areas near here. Uh-huh. Do you do a lot of camping? Well, I have done camping in the past. Uh, I can't remember when the last time I actually went camping was. It was, uh, several years ago, and then I...
Do you do most of yours in tents? Yeah, we've done ours, I've only been camping twice. Oh, wow. And one of them I don't really consider camping. Um. It was on the edge of the lake and it was at a camp. I don't like those camping grounds where, you know, you got R V beside you and then another people in tents beside you...
we, uh, four years ago, it was about four years ago, my little boy was three months old and the first time I left him we went overnight camping. Uh-huh. And we went, and we found this little peninsula out in the middle of nowhere by the lake. And we had a ball. Uh-huh. Just sat out there with our, we didn't even use te...
And she's good. She'd think about bringing a rake so you can rake your area out. And, yeah. That's right. If you don't you'll find every rock on it when you put your when you put your bag down. Uh-huh. Well, yeah, she was, she is always prepared, I mean, she brought everything from, like I said, toilet paper to the rak...
Well, it held our pan and, you know, the potatoes and stuff. We had a good time. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, we're still waiting to go again. Uh-huh. Well if you get a chance, now there are some really nice camping areas, uh, up in the Wichitas, which is in Oklahoma and, uh, Arkansas. Uh-huh. Arkansas. I can't rememb...
Well, I love to swim, so I like to get out by a lake or a, uh, you know, somewhere close where we can swim. Uh-huh. Yeah. Right, well, Lake, Lake Tawakoni is a pretty nice place Uh-huh. and we had a two bedroom mobile home there, but the boys still liked to throw their sleeping bags out by the lake and build a little f...