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I'm afraid to get him out. He is so fearless, he, it terrifies me. Uh-huh He, Oh, don't be concerned. There's much less for them to get hurt on camping than there is elsewhere. Think so? Uh-huh. Well, it's the water he's not scared of. He'll go out into it until it's up to his nose and then try to tread back Uh-huh. Uh...
And, we did a lot of naturalist work when we were out. We, you know, we, we searched for Uh-huh. and we ate the wild plants and we gathered wild berries, and, uh, it's really, you know Yeah. the, the mountains can accommodate you if you know what to find. If you know what to look for. Uh-huh. I had my boys build their...
well, they've always done a lot of camping. I grew up in Louisville, Kentucky and there wasn't, I don't know, but we just didn't get out. My mother and my father split up when we were young, so, and my mother wasn't into that, and that's who I stayed with. Uh-huh. So we didn't do much outdoors stuff, except swimming Uh...
appreciate it. Okay. Uh-huh. I enjoyed talking. Thank you. You bet, bye-bye. Bye-bye. Okay. I hope you know more about the subject of baseball and where they're going than I do Oh, I know a little bit about it. I'm not a die-hard fan but I, I enjoy the, I like the Boston Red Sox myself. Well, I, of all the sports that ...
You know and I guess they were doing pretty good up to a point, and then they kind of fell on their face Well, with, uh, their biggest point of interest has been Nolan Ryan not the rest of the team lately, so. Correct, right. Right Oh, it's amazing. They're so astronomical I can't even imagine that kind of money. Right...
But this week I've been so busy I didn't even bother to stop I understand. I understand. But hopefully, hopefully next week I'll get back to my normal routine. Okay. Uh, you are involved with T I uh, speech, um, recognition? Well, not really. I, um I work at laboratory. How did you find out about it? Oh, okay. From, uh...
Well, that's interesting. And the topics are interesting, uh, they run a whole gamut of, of, uh, subjects, and, uh, I think we can address every topic, but the depth of knowledge is quite different. Sure. Sure. So, uh, when they chose baseball, I mean, I'm, I'm, I can understand baseball, you know, I don't understand f...
But I can't relate to football because I've never, played football and, and don't, and have any interest, Uh-huh. and I said if I ever had a son, he would not play football. And, uh, I had four daughters so that wasn't a question, but now I have a grandson that you know, is gung ho for, uh, football. Uh-huh. Well, Well...
Yeah. but, uh, for some people it's just, uh, uh, A love for them. Well, that, not so much that but, uh, even in baseball you can, like when I played baseball when I was growing up, I had trouble, uh, uh, just throwing the ball because I very, I was always very strong and I when I was young I could throw harder, than m...
I did that wrestling Oh. Oh, okay. No, I'd, well, I, I, uh, always been quite an athlete and doing different things and, um, the other thing was I'd never really let injuries stop me. But interestingly enough you mentioned football, is like, now I won't play football anymore because of the, uh, the separated shoulder w...
Well, I have, uh, I have a broken arm that I had since I was three. It was never set right. Uh-huh. And, uh, uh, I liked bowling as a, as a kind of a relaxing sport. And, uh, one of the men that was in our on our league, uh, noticed, uh, you know, uh, my broken arm and the way my ball would do. And he says, let me show...
And a lot of people said, well, you should have turned pro. And I thought, no, not I don't, my love wasn't there for the game. I liked to as a, as a method of, uh, entertainment and I, uh, fellowship Sure. but outside of that, no. I didn't. And I, and I still, I like to bowl, but, uh, I don't have, uh, Jack standing be...
I would have to brush up on my bowling before I even tried to, uh, win a lot of money for the junior achievement, uh, organization. Uh-huh. But that's the only thing that I would, you know, be to do. Right. Well, my grandmother has been bowling for, gosh, maybe thirty, forty years. I don't know, Uh-huh, uh-huh. a long ...
Oh. Well, All the farmers, you know, well, it's good for hay. You know all the farmers got their first cut of hay and everything, but they're going to need some you know, rain to get the second cut. Oh. I, I'm working for a lady who has a strawberry field, and if we don't have rain, she's going to lose a lot of money. ...
by now it's usually, no, you know, it's quit raining, you know, by at least a month. Uh-huh. And it's still, we're still having April showers, for June. Oh, I hope they come, this way. Yeah, uh, I don't know where, where it came from but it's been really, we got a lot of, uh, we're in central Texas and it feels like we...
We've had some with really, really high winds that have trashed trees and, everything else. Oh, my. It's just, Now see, every, everyone up here with their gardens they're not going to have much of a garden this year because it's so dry. Yeah. Well, I hope you get some of that. Yeah. We got enough. We have had plenty, a...
and it's meeting what's coming out of the Gulf. Oh. And it's just causing chaos Yeah. so it's been, it's been, uh, wet. Uh-huh. And we've moved our yard I think three or four times in the last two or three weeks. Oh, my gosh. I mean just because it just keeps growing and growing and growing and, and one, one week it ju...
It's really drying up, up here. Well, what always works for me is if I water my plants or we wash the car, it usually rains. If not that night, the next day Does it? I was telling everyone, hang your clothes out on the line and it's surely going to rain. Yeah, yeah. Whenever you hang your clothes out on the line it alw...
Wow. I was wearing shorts in March up at college, and, uh, we, what they said is that this area has had its summer weather in the spring. Huh. Is what they said what happened. Huh. I hope that, Oh, I don't know. But, I hope that doesn't mean we're going to get an early winter. No. I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't, not a...
Yeah, I was wearing shorts in March. You know it was nippy Uh-huh. but, um, like it was still in the seventies. Yeah. You know, high sixties low seventies in March. Yeah. And we were there, we were in New Jersey last October Uh-huh. and it was hotter there than it was here. Yes. It was just like a heat wave. Uh-huh. Ye...
Huh. I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade it for snow any day. Really? Yeah. See I like, I like the snow but I like to watch it fall, and I just like it where it's deep enough, you know, but not too deep. Right. And I can handle a vacation in it and, you know, but my husband is from New Jersey and he wouldn't go back either. H...
So it really wasn't, it was weird because we had snow It's like, wow, it actually fell on the right day. So, uh, no, it's not. In fact, uh, you know, we're used to running around in, you know, spring clothes in December, and so when it throws in a real cool winter, we get broken pipes and, and all that kind of stuff an...
Made it, the humidity real high. Yeah, muggy, huh? But no, I like it. Well, we're right in a good stop because we're, you know, we get over in the, over the hundreds in the summer, Uh-huh. but it's, it's not, it's a dry heat and it's not really as hot and muggy as it would be being over a hundred plus ninety degree hum...
So we like it where we're at. If it's not a whole bunch of everything at once type stuff. Uh-huh. Yeah. So. But no, it's interesting when it gets really cold here and people forget that they're, live in Texas and they don't know how to drive in snow and, you know. But, uh, I wouldn't trade it for anything Oh, that's go...
but in this case it's the only thing to talk about. But, well, Michelle, it's great talking to, Okay. Um, the last movie that I have seen, it's been, it's been a couple of months. I saw, um, SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY and FLATLINERS. Yes, I saw that one. Those were the last two that I've seen. What was the second one? FLA...
So that's why I saw that one. Uh-huh Well, I've, uh, I saw SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY and I, um, I've seen, uh, well , just recently, um, WHAT ABOUT BOB? No, I haven't gotten to see you know, any real recent ones. I like comedies better than I do dramas. I, uh, am not one for the, uh, I don't need the suspense movies or t...
Uh-huh well, I didn't care for the movie myself. What? I didn't really care for the movie either. Yeah, you kind of have to like to be, uh, drawn to this point where you aren't sure what's going to happen. Yeah, uh-huh. Well, okay, on likewise then, did you see PRETTY WOMAN? Uh, yes. Do you enjoy that one? Uh, it was i...
if you accept a few of the basic starting points, I guess the rest falls in place. Uh, it was hard to accept that, uh, this, uh, multimillionaire wheeler dealer would, uh, would, you know, find himself and allow himself to get into that situation. Uh-huh, yeah. Well, I really liked PRETTY WOMAN. You know, I just, well,...
Okay, now, did you care for that one? Uh, that was, I enjoyed that one. I, in that I, I guess I, I hate to be too surprised in a movie, and in that one you could, you could pretty well guess where it was, going to end up. You weren't sure exactly how it would get there, but you knew where it would end up. Uh-huh. See, ...
Meanwhile, I sat through the movie and said well, when are you, when are you supposed to start crying, you know Yeah. I didn't really, Uh, I didn't really find it to be a tearjerker Well, whenever she starts crying Well, do you go to many movies more than once? Um, if I see them more than once, I see them on video. Uh-...
Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. No, I saw one, it was a drama also, and I can't think of the name of it now, that, um, it was a book before it came out in a movie, and it was, it it was a drama. Did you go to DANCES WITH WOLVES? I wanted to see that. I didn't get to. I, at least what I hear on that one, that it's coming out a second...
Uh-huh. Well, um, what movies are showing down there now? Oh, I, I'd actually have to get a newspaper out. My approach to movies is I kind of hear about them, uh, I keep track of them a little, but, you know, ask me to name the ten that are out there right now, and I'd have to say, uh, I, uh, I don't know. I, I just lo...
or radio heard faintly in Okay. I, I guess first of all I'll just say we haven't done much, uh, gardening. We do lawn work all the time. But, uh, our gardening we lost, remember the last two freezes, I don't know how long you've been here Yeah I do But we lost our bushes in those and have been waiting to plant new ones...
the first year I had to tell the kids not to pick them when they were red because they were supposed to be blackberries. But, uh, we go out, it, it's hard to go out when it's this hot. Uh-huh. And, uh, but, uh, keep the weeds out of them and, and keep them off the ground so the ants don't eat them. And they're okay. Oh...
but, uh, they're getting too thick, I need to go thin them out. I don't know what kind of flowers they are. They're real common around here. They're, they're orange and they look like a lily, sort of. Oh, I think I know what they, I can't remember what the name of them are either. No, but I think they're real pretty wh...
I've lived in Utah my whole life and we can't seem to get ours green. I don't know. Down here, the grass? Yeah Well, I'm, we've had problems with our yard. We, it was one big weed is what it was. Uh-huh. It was just horrible. And my neighbors on either side of me have beautiful lawns and we have this God awful ugly thi...
Uh-huh. and she has eaten everything I have put out there. She's eaten my crepe myrtle trees. Oh dear. I know, and she's eaten the bushes. I've tried to, I spent like eight hours planting this nice garden out there No. and I barricaded it up, so she couldn't get into it. Uh-huh. And I went and took a shower and looked ...
I had some bushes that, uh, some shrubs I put out front and it killed those too. So, I'm just real discouraged with the whole thing. I just don't even want to do anything. The, the other problem that we have, well it's funny because the one, the two bushes on the ends of the house that I think are ugly, they lived and ...
we can't either. But I've got two good size cottonwood trees out in my front yard. Uh, you know one on either side of the yard. Uh-huh. And, and they're big and they're real full and everything, you know, in the summer time but it, it's killing everything underneath where the leaves are shading the tree Yeah. but towar...
Uh-huh. And so I think that we're going to try that. Huh. I, I think the I think that's pretty much what we have decided. Now I have two long windows Yeah. Really well I don't really have to worry about that that much because my sons' bedrooms are in the front and they've got mini-blinds and stuff. Yeah. But only, only...
So that's not too bad. Yeah. But, I like to look at the flowers. They're pretty. I do too, that's why I look at my neighbors yard Yeah. I don't have anything to look at so I look at theirs. But it's funny because, uh, you try so hard I think sometimes to, to, anyway I do, to do our yard Uh-huh and then it's like the wi...
Yeah I'm, it's usually me and the kids that go out and mow the yard and and I just I really do not appreciate having to go out there and do it. Uh-huh. I hate to mow the yard, more than anything else. I hate to mow that yard. I know. It is, it's not my favorite, thing in the world either. I'm glad I have an old enough ...
Right. Exactly. That, that's my only thing with him. Exactly. That's why I'm help, having him help me now fade at end of Okay, well, some of the things I like to do are, I like to knit. I knit sometimes, and I sew Uh-huh. and, uh, I like to sew sometimes for my kids. I, I sew clothes for them every once in a while. Uh-...
After a while, cross stitch, I I don't know. I have to put it away It gets boring. and then I have to bring it back. Uh-huh. You know. And, and, uh, I don't know why that is. I don't know if it's looking at the little things every time. Well, it reaches a point where it doesn't seem to be very challenging, I think. Yea...
and I found that cross stitch is the easiest to do in the car. Oh, I bet. Yeah. I don't know that I could even think about quilting. You have to have a pretty good frame, don't you, to do any kind of quilting work? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I've not really done any, too much challenging, uh, stuff. I, I can do it with a, a needl...
But, uh, the other ones are very pretty. They're, uh, we have a quilt on our bed that's, instead of, like, yarn they tied, uh, ribbon into it. Uh-huh. Oh. And it's real pretty. I bet. It's real pretty. There's so many things I wish I had learned to do with my mother. She had crocheted a full bedspread. It's kind of a h...
Haven't tried that either. Well, I was going to say because, Because if you could knit, you could crochet. I want to learn to crochet. I, Really? It's just like doing one handed as long as you learn how to, to weave the, the yarn in between your fingers on your left hand. Uh-huh. And then you just use your right hand w...
I never learned, and I get real nervous whereas usually the other needlework stuff is relaxing to me. Isn't that interesting. But I just have a phobia about not being able to actually sew. I think that's really interesting. Uh-huh. Huh. And yet, you know, I think about, you know, you said you do a lot of needlework and...
You know, and, and I always think, well, I can do this and watch T V or something you know. Uh-huh. And, uh, it seems like I always get my mind carried away to something else and then it doesn't quite work Well, it, or, I'm at the age where bifocals or trifocals would be necessary. It's so I find myself putting glasses...
I can't do that painting thing. Yeah. And yet, I'm the same way. If I see something, I can copy it, but I certainly can't create. I admire people that have that in their minds already. Yeah, me, too. Me, too. I know a woman who's just wonderful at that. Uh-huh. And I look at it and, you know, you look at those things a...
Well, mostly, uh, a, a little fresh water fish, but mostly lake fishing like rainbow trout and stuff because I used to live in Utah. Uh-huh. But, uh, down here I haven't fished much in Texas. That's one of the few things I've ever fished for is rainbow trout. Oh, they're really not, I think they're good to eat. What, w...
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah That's a great way. and, and they really like that. I think that would probably be a good way to catch catfish, Now I have never caught catfish. personally I like to catch large mouth bass and catfish because they fight the best Uh-huh. Because they fight the best But a, a catfish will real...
and the fish would be sitting at different levels. Oh, how about that. So, yeah, you just leave it at that level and in no time something would hit it and you could pull them up two and three times in a row, but you had to find out what level, how many cranks they were off the bottom. And if you left it on the bottom, ...
if you did it like you were just, uh, saying, that's pretty much like rainbow trout. Uh-huh. You bait the hook, you throw it in, you troll it a little bit Uh-huh. and then you wait Yeah. and they troll it a little bit. Well, if you, do you have any friends with ponds? No. I don't I, uh, well, if you can well, or even a...
You, you want to make it land right on the shore and then drag like a plastic worm and just have it come into the water like a, a regular animal or, or fish uh, well, you know, something coming off from the bank like they usually do Oh, uh-huh. Uh-huh. So you don't have to really get, uh, fish from a boat, you know, be...
Uh, what kind of fish do you like the best to eat? Oh, crappie actually. Oh, do you Yeah I've been fishing in the, the ocean. We're about three hours from the ocean. And I also like Spanish mackerel. And you catch blues and, uh, that's a different kind of fishing off the pier, too. Have you ever fished off the pier? I'...
but not exactly like, Yeah, get, but they're a little heavier and they're bigger. Yeah. Get the yellow ones. The yellow. Those are the ticket Okay And let them drop to the bottom and maybe do a, a kind of a slow reel. You don't even have to have a good rod or anything. Just, just even a regular line Uh-huh. and you thr...
Yeah, my mom, she just loves to fish and she has a lot of those, those little, uh, they almost look neon. You know, they're just real colorful things on, onto her end. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah. And she she's really a good fisher woman. Oh, really? Yeah. That's neat. Well, you sound like you're a good fisher woma...
but this one was my husband's Uh-huh. and they're usually quite similar, I think. Are you both from Utah originally? No, he's from here Oh, uh-huh. but, uh, most of his people are from Oregon, so we kind of met halfway Uh-huh. and so, this was one, and they, um, planned it up in the mountains and got a cabin and had, y...
sure, Now was this his entire family, cousins, aunts, uncles like that or his immediate family? Uh-huh. No Oh, wow. this was everybody. Oh wow, how many people were there? Oh, I, oh, I, jeez, I think over, um, three hundred were there. Wow. It was quite a large Wow. it was a great big lodge, and so we had plenty of roo...
Now how many, how many people are in his immediate family? Well, he has eight brothers and sisters Oh, wow. so that's big by itself. Wow, it really is, and you get together once a year. Yeah. Wow, So we have a little shindig with them. Are they all here in the area, or are they scattered? Um they're close, in a close p...
that's wonderful. so, it's been fun. How about you? Well, we don't really get together, I, I would love to, and that's why I checked that I wanted to do that, because I would love to plan a family reunion sometime. Um, I have a sister in Colorado, and, uh, a sister in upstate New York, and a sister in Connecticut, and ...
And it's not really a weekend, it's just like a day kind of thing, because most of them are, you know, um, my family moved to Connecticut, the rest of the family stayed in New York and, uh, on Long Island, Uh-huh. and so, they're all kind of local and close, and so they just have a, you know, a day picnic, and, uh, I'v...
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Um. And do they, they have a hotel, or where do you stay? Um, basically, they just stay with each other, brothers or sisters. There are enough in the area to, to just kind of span yourself out. Take everybody, yeah. Whoever's mom and dad it is, you usually go and stay with them, like I go stay with my...
Oh, that sounds so wonderful, isn't that nice. Yeah. and they send out, my mom's family now, this is the first reunion with my husband's family I've really been involved with, but my mom's family, each brother and sister takes a turn one year, and that's how they divide it up Uh-huh. But then one brother and sister fro...
Oh, wow, Yeah, and, um, the thing is, that, um, the, the real part is there are two mailings that go out, and the first one is to just kind of give an approximate date and time so you can start making, Okay. What do you think of the public school system? First off, do you have children that are in it? I have children t...
but I think that, um, they are starting to head towards more technology and getting the kids computer literate earlier. You know, my kindergartners were on the, were on the computers, and I think that with the way the world is today that's got to be done. And I think that, uh, the schools now are starting to teach thin...
and, and I know the fourth grader is doing stuff that our children was doing, were doing in the fifth and sixth grade. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I tutor a girl that's in eighth grade and her pre-algebra book is higher then some of my Algebra Two, when I was in high school. Is that scary? And it's like, oh, I going to take th...
And, and are you, do you find that? Well, filling out the forms and also all of these, uh, statewide and national wide testing, things so that they compare Uh-huh. and . You know, you can as far as I'm concerned you can make a survey or test scores say anything you want it to say. Uh-huh. And it's just a matter of how...
and nobody else's children are going to ever live up to this, and that's great. But that's what they're doing with the school systems and they're wasting too much time on that, I think. Well, I, I know that this again this, this friend, uh, is in the Plano School District, Uh-huh. and she teaches, uh, uh, it uh, emotio...
I'm supposed to ask you, how do you make use of your credit cards and I'm supposed to compare those with my, my habits. Okay. How do I make use of credit cards? Yes. Um, let's see. I carry a lot of credit cards with me mostly because I don't ever have cash. Right. And I I, do you work for Texas Instruments? No, I do no...
Well, myself I always, I'm, I'm a traveling person Uh-huh. and I'm out of town quite a bit so I use credit cards quite a lot also as far as everything from service work and gasoline in my car to my lounging, entertainment and for everything. Uh-huh. Yeah, me too. So that's, uh, as far as using them outside that I'm not...
and I'll go in and charge something and I'll have to give them my driver's license. They'll have to look up the number because I'm never carrying a credit card. Uh-huh. Yeah. But I do carry like my American Express and my Visa which I use for, you know, primarily work type things. Uh-huh. Yeah. This is my first call by...
Okay. So, Now, did you pick this topic or were you given? No, I was given this topic. I see. Okay. Yeah, they give you, they assign you a topic, you call the eight hundred number, Right. Have you tried it yet? No Okay. When you call the eight hundred number, they assign you a topic and, uh, pretty, uh, cut and dried Hu...
I'm not sure. A couple, about two three minutes I think. Okay. But I really don't have too much more to say in regards to credit cards. I, one thing I've always tried to do is when I get my credit cards, I always try to pay them off because I just sort of detest paying interest. Oh, yes. And, uh, Definitely. like years...
and I'll pay it the same day it comes Yes, yes. and I just kind of tell my kids how much I hate paying interest so they should follow the same rule. That's right. Well, yeah, Oh, you bet it's it's an absolute savings. Or if you travel for work and you get your reimbursement before the bill comes in, you get to keep th...
Okay. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye. In, in the light of what has been happening lately with the doctors that I know and lawyers and whatnot, I think national health insurance is a way to throw a lot of money at a very small problem. Do you? Why? Why? Well, if you took half the money that they would spend in th...
Uh-huh. It's astronomical. Now they can't doing anything about that. I don't think they're in a conspiracy. I think it's our fault, because we as people just sue them. No, people don't sue People are very sue, sue conscious. lawyers sue. If you put a ten thousand dollar cap on the amount of money that a lawyer could ma...
Well, it, uh, an O B G Y N doctor cannot control the fetus in the womb a hundred percent. That's right. If the baby is born dead, well, that happens. Well, If, if they have complications and, It depends. Well, I know, I mean, there are guys that are real slobs, but you know, there are also people out there that are rea...
See, I believe that there, there is a system already in place for health care. So, it's terrible. Uh-huh. You know, they have indigent health care. You show up at Parkland bleeding You'll get it. That's true. In fact, you'll get it at Presbyterian if you show up there, too. Yeah. And we have that happen. We have patien...
I've been through a two year divorce where the only one that came out ahead was my lawyer, so I'd like to wipe them all out Yeah. Well, I, I happen to know a few and I even claim one as a friend. He's a divorce attorney. But, He better not be mine I think he'll go nameless for the, for the purposes of this conversation...
And, you know, he said, I had to, he had to gross two million to take home as much as his malpractice. Yeah. And most of them are very sincere. Most of them do the best they can. Yeah They are human. Occasionally something will go wrong. Well, you can be human and Catholic. I know you can be human and Catholic, but, yo...
You know, if you were able to write a malpractice insurance that would negate any financial obligation on the part of the doctor over and above the insurance, say, say you have malpractice insurance and a kid dies or is malformed or, Well, um, I have a, a, a former exercise program. I'm a graduate student, and this sem...
and yeah, fluid resistance. Right, right. Uh-huh, uh-huh. How about you? Well, I do, uh, little aerobics, oh, three or four times a week, but it's not enough to, boy if I go, in the summer time I try to jog, jog a couple of miles Oh, yeah. and, uh, well, you know, even doing that three or four times a week, when summer...
I like it. Uh-huh. I like it, uh, part of my problem is I have small children, so, uh, to do a whole lot just requires a lot of, oh, coordination as far as scheduling and that type of, uh, deal, you know, uh, Uh-huh. Sure, yeah. Of course, you got a little different direction going, but, uh. Uh-huh, yeah. Uh, I, um, I ...
, yeah. yeah. Uh-huh. Although lately I have noticed, you know, even if I gain, like two pounds, I start, I start feeling it and, You feel it, don't you? Uh-huh. It's amazing how, uh, how much, uh, it changes, and I weigh probably about the same I weighed for, oh, I don't know how many years, but, uh, it's changed plac...
And I really feel kind of guilty for not working out more than I do because there's a facility right downstairs where all, you know, all we have to do is, is, uh, run down there Do you enjoy it, or is it, uh. If you can have, find the time it's just the. Uh-huh yeah, I really do, because I like to get, you know, get of...
yeah. and, uh, kind of have, if you're having the pressures of school and, uh, everything else, it's kind of, course it's really, you know, as soon as you do it, it's really a release. Oh, yeah. You feel invigorated and you feel oh, you feel in a lot better shape just like eating right foods. Uh-huh. Yeah, ready to go ...
Did you? Uh-huh, completely. I mean, any kind of meat or, and I, and I really feel a lot better now. Makes a lot of difference. Yeah, it really does. Well, there's a lot of fat in meat. Uh-huh, yeah, that's it, I mean, that's about where almost all of the fat comes from Right. and so. I found that really helps. And unl...
I used to eat a lot of fish, too, but I just tried to cut it all out for a while and see what happens. Kind of see what happens. Yeah, and I like it. I've tried to do that with sugar I don't know if I'm that brave yet . everything has sugar in it . I mean, if you go, your ketchup has sugar in it. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Course...
yeah, it sounds good. Okay. Well, good luck to you there in Idaho. Well, you, too. Good luck, uh, enjoy college while you can. Let me tell you it's, uh. Well, I'm in graduate school now. I, I, I kind of feel like I wish I could have gone back to undergraduate now It's a little different, uh challenge, isn't it? Yeah. Y...
Beverly. I think one of the thing that I notice a lot, I know it's touching social changes, but, uh, to me what becomes socially acceptable, and I, I don't know if it's a factor of me growing older and seeing things through different eyes or if it's a factor of our society actually moving in that direction, but I notic...
Somebody else, uh, made them do it. Uh, that's what I seem to see a lot of, that, uh, no one is willing to take responsibility for their life and their choices. It's rather, sue these guys because they made a uh, a seat belt that didn't work right or uh, that's what I think is a big one. Uh-huh. I tend to agree with yo...
Uh-huh. And hers isn't a social thing as much as it's a stage they go through, but whenever something happens it's, you made me hit that, you made me do this, and so I try to tell her, , everything isn't always somebody else's fault. You know, you have to watch where you're going and and so it's what you just said, kin...
I can be somebody, you know, if I put my mind to it, I can accomplish things too. And I think that's good, but, um, I think when you push, you know, maybe I think when that was first trying come about with, you know, what we know as the women's lib movement Uh-huh. I think it was too extreme. Um, I think you can be fem...
And I, I, I think that directly affects the effort that you put into that marriage or that commitment. Yeah, I would agree with you. Uh, What kind of movies have you been seeing lately? Uh, it's been probably a month or so since I've been to the movies. Course, my, my favorite now is, is DANCES WITH WOLVES. Oh, it's an...
That was, um, Robin Williams and, uh and, uh, I can't the last name. Right. How about you? What are you? Uh, we've not been having many opportunities to see movies lately. Um, we really enjoyed, um, DEAD POETS' SOCIETY. Yes. Um, several years back one we saw, we saw we really, really enjoyed was, uh, ORDINARY PEOPLE, w...
I know what you mean. Course I'm a Kevin Costner fan. Yeah, I'm pretty impressed with stuff he's done. Uh, he made kind of an odd sounding ROBIN HOOD, but, uh, I mean, you know, basic thick western U S accent for a ROBIN HOOD just doesn't seem to fit. No, but you know, it wasn't a bad movie. Oh, no. It's a good movie. ...
I haven't, not an opportunity to see that, uh, Uh, it, you, you know, I guess it, it really isn't for everybody. It's, it's pretty deep and, uh, uh, philosophical. Yeah. But I thought it had a wonderful message to it. It's the kind you came out and looked at somebody and said, You know, I think I liked that Yeah. And t...
she's a housekeeper. Uh, the nanny type. Yeah, she's a housekeeper she. She was a, oh, now I can't say it, a Haitian. Housekeeper, uh-huh. Anyway, she, uh, she seemed to be that sort of person that seems half crazy, but then again, she's got a whole lot on the ball, and the movie had the whole, lot of philosophical con...