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It was very predictable,
I mean, you knew, you knew when the murder was going to happen or something,
but it was still so well done that it was enjoyable.
Yeah.
That, that takes a good bit to make one that's predictable that's still worth watching.
That's right.
I had, uh, uh,
I like the, I think it's called the, uh, R... |
What are, what are the problems with public education?
Well, um, there, there's some.
There's several
It's such a, a broad, you know, topic that you need to boil it down.
Uh-huh.
But, um, one that, um, I thought was a problem that , I thought it was a serious problem, that I'm not sure it's being taken care of right n... |
Do you find that those parents, um,
I've seen the same thing and heard the same things,
and at the same time I've heard that it's even harder when both parents are required to work and can't spend, you know, that, that time, you know
Yeah.
typically the mother was at home with, uh, the children and, and at least could... |
and a lot of it has to do with their, uh, their reading ability, you know, their, their language
Yeah.
and,
Oh, definitely,
yeah.
It, uh, makes it tough because you know when they come in with scores that low, they may be, uh, good students,
but they just haven't achieved to their fullest potential
and they're going, ... |
And I I know that there are some parents that say how do I get my kids in that,
and yet they don't qualify,
but it's unfortunate that they don't qualify, because I think everybody would benefit from these programs.
Yeah,
it sounds like it.
It is excellent
so,
So how many children do you have at home?
I have two little ... |
Okay, uh, I guess, we are just supposed to talk about things we do in our spare time.
Uh-huh.
Uh, I basically read books.
Uh-huh.
It is,
I do.
Sometimes, when everybody's gone to bed, my kids are in bed and my husband in bed,
so I will just stay up and finish a book that I am,
I have about three books that I am going o... |
Oh, do you like those detective stories?
Yeah.
But this,
it was a true one.
It was just a little different though.
Reading that one last night.
Oh, well that is interesting.
Actually, I like to read also,
but, uh, usually fall into one or two categories, either true science fiction or fantasy on the one hand or highly ... |
and I am a computer scientist.
Yeah.
But, I have a lot of other hobbies.
Uh-huh,
really.
Well, yeah,
I am kind of, uh, I guess what you would call it, a project person.
Oh, really.
Yeah,
and I love,
like I have a shop
and when things break around the house, I always try to fix them myself
and so, hobby,
it's, it's funn... |
What kinds of things do you fix?
Well, essentially anything you find in a house. Uh, a stove, or oven or a broken piece of porcelain or, uh, chipped tile on the floor. I mean just anything.
Oh.
And you have a shop?
Well it, it is not anything elaborate.
It is just a work bench and a gazillion tools.
Yeah.
But, enough t... |
He, he works on the cars.
He rarely takes them in
Yeah
I,
and, uh, he works on irons, and all T V and stuff too.
We rarely have to take those things in too.
Right.
Yeah,
I think it, it,
not only can it be fun,
but it can certainly help your finances.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah,
definitely.
So, do you have any art, uh, how do I say... |
Yeah.
Well, I don't necessarily either.
I can plink out a song or two on a piano
Oh.
and I can, uh,
I don't necessarily draw or do any of that kind of art,
I guess uh, graphic arts is that what they call it,
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't do any of that,
but sweat shirts is certainly impressive.
Uh-huh.
Uh, I belong to this organ... |
and, uh, those are really neat.
So we learn different crafts like that uh
I see.
Well, that is neat
Yeah.
I guess you could consider that a hobby.
Do you, do you cook for a hobby
or do you,
No
I cook dinner
That's not something you,
I don't consider it a hobby
I understand that.
But, uh, you know, I
no
I am not a real ... |
Right.
At least, I don't think it is.
Yeah.
So,
But, I think that still borders on hobby.
Yeah.
Probably the other thing I do which I am sure will sound horrible to you, but is I program for fun. Uh, on the computer.
Uh-huh.
So, I have little projects little computer projects going on that I consider hobbies.
Uh-huh.
B... |
Not all of them being mine.
Wow.
Then you are busy
Yeah.
Uh-huh,
that is very good.
Uh, I wonder if you can construe raising children as being a hobby?
Well, you know one of the books that I did, that I was reading,
and I stopped because it was so,
it's
the book is so detailed
Uh-huh.
and you have to,
sometimes I have ... |
I'm not, I'm not a great fan of, of government control in general
and so it's, it's kind of a tough issue.
What about yourself?
Well, I guess that I would like to, to say that perhaps someplace in the middle where people could somehow qualify or, uh, have a legitimate use for the, the, the weapon I suppose because also... |
right.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, a lot of the, the crime, I think, that goes on, I, I don't know to what the degree the guns are, are purchased through regular channels or they're illegal guns.
Yeah,
I don't know,
this morning in our paper, it, there was an article about somebody who had bought three guns in Virginia because al... |
I don't know,
I've, you know,
I, I don't own a gun and, and don't really want one,
and I'd just as soon a lot fewer people did.
Uh-huh.
Uh, but on the other hand, you know, uh, like I say, I kind of, kind of against government control in general.
Uh,
Right.
And I suppose uh, you know, total ban would lead to more illeg... |
because, uh, because they, they can be so easily sold
and, you know, they're, they're,
I don't know how many millions of guns have been sold in this country,
but, uh, it's not like they're going to disappear all of a sudden. Uh, even if you do do a total ban on them.
Uh, it's a real tough problem.
Right.
I, I don't kno... |
And I'm not sure that's good either.
well we, you know, we, I grew up with them.
I never really took to hunting.
I mean, I did some of it,
but, uh, you know, we didn't have any, we never had any handguns or anything like that.
We had, you know, had shotguns for, for quail and pheasant hunting and things like that.
Uh-h... |
Well, for many, many years, uh, my wife and I did have a budget.
Uh, we were both working at the time and so forth
and, uh, that,
we had to do that until we finally got the house paid for and, and other big bills taken care of.
Uh-huh.
Uh, we have a, a budget,
but not as strict now as we used to because we don't have q... |
uh-huh.
We don't, I, I don't know of a written figure of expenses that we, you know, keep to or anything,
but I know that I go to the grocery store that we always stick within, you know, five dollars between here and there.
Uh-huh.
A certain amount.
I think I've, I do that automatically myself.
Yeah.
I mean, I unconsci... |
if anything is absolutely out, make a note of it
and then, uh, the next time I go to the store, why, I pick it up and fill it up.
Huh.
So it's, it's worked very well that way.
That way we you know, if each of us finds something is missing, uh, we put it up.
Uh, the other person might not know about it.
Yeah.
That way w... |
Huh?
Oh, yeah.
And, uh, you know, we could go to both places without having to spend so much for plane fare.
Yeah.
Sure.
Well, I think we unconsciously do the same thing.
Excuse me, my throat's not as clear today as it should be.
Uh-huh,
that's all right.
Uh, we are, uh, going to be traveling to Europe with a choral.
W... |
We, uh, just live a normal life,
but we don't throw any money away, particularly.
We save it for this trip, which is, uh, always very, very nice.
Yeah,
well, whenever
I don't know if this is part of the topic,
but whenever I find, you know, a dime or something on the ground, I, I'll probably pick it up
I do the same th... |
Uh-huh.
And, uh, I keep those levels up above a certain minimum,
and I'm always trying to,
Well, are you in the market for a new car?
Uh, well, yeah,
I am as a matter of fact.
Well, actually I'm looking for another car,
but, uh, uh, new,
probably not.
Oh.
What sort of requirements to you have for your car?
Uh, sports c... |
I've had so many times when, uh, uh, you know, I'll have a friend next to me or I see somebody, uh, guy broken down on the side of the road and try to lean over and roll down the window.
Oh.
It is just a real pain,
or, you know, if I'm driving along and there's somebody next to me and, uh, somebody that I know and you ... |
I haven't.
Have you?
No.
Somehow I just think, you know, I like the idea
Well, it, it sure seems to save lives
and
Right.
uh, yeah.
I, actually, I like the anti-lock brakes.
Right,
that's a good idea.
And I have never had a chance to,
I have been in cars that have had them,
but I've never tromped on the brakes to see, ... |
and I needed air-conditioning
and, uh, can't remember what my, oh,
I wanted uh, stick shift. And, so I didn't have a whole lot of choice
There was one car in all of the, the metropolitan area that I could find that, you know, was sort of a medium priced car with a stick shift in it.
What was that?
It, it turned out to ... |
I, I know why I love a stick shift.
Why why did you want one?
Well, I just wanted it because, again, I had, I guess traditionally always had a car that had one
and I thought it would be more reliable.
Uh-huh.
Uh,
It's hard to find stick shift cars anymore.
I found that out.
I mean, you know, the people would just sort ... |
And so why do you like stick shift?
Uh, I guess I, I grew up on it and it's fun.
It's, it's an enjoyable part of driving.
I do feel like I have, uh, more control over the car
Uh-huh.
and it, it, to me, it gives me more, a lot more control in snow and ice and slick conditions.
Uh-huh.
Right.
Uh, it, it does, uh,
I don't... |
Yeah.
Sure.
Okay,
well let me go ahead and press one
Okay, Leslie,
I'd like to find out a little bit about your hobbies.
What do you like to do in your spare time?
Well, and when I have my spare time I do enjoy,
Actually, it's a cherished commodity now days, huh.
That's right.
Uh, I do enjoy, uh, sewing,
I hand, uh,
I ... |
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well great.
I enjoy music too
and I, uh,
one thing that I like to do, uh, is sit down and play the piano.
I can't play that well,
Um.
I enjoy that.
Uh-huh.
Uh, a couple of hobbies that I also have is, uh,
I really enjoy bike riding
and the biggest hobbies I have right now are my kids and whatever they a... |
And uh, so personally a lot of the hobbies I had when I was growing up and, uh, going to college and so forth are having to change.
Uh-huh.
I really enjoyed, uh, mountain climbing.
I really enjoyed skiing. Uh, and a lot of outdoor activities.
Uh there's not a whole lot of mountains here in Texas that I can go skiing wi... |
that's true.
That's true.
And then of course, once I got to the age where I could have done it myself, I had other interests I guess.
So
Oh yeah.
I guess that for me it was very helpful.
My two oldest brothers were very interested in skiing.
Oh yeah.
And so we, we went quite often
and, uh, in fact my brother still does... |
So,
Yeah,
I, I find if I, I make I have to make myself realize that it is important to get out there and you know just even to go for a walk is good recreation for me
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah
Yeah.
And my youngest daughter is going to be starting up soccer
so she's real excited about doing that.
Well, great.
We will b... |
She still likes her piano
Uh-huh.
and she is in band.
So, she's got lots of hobbies or, uh, activities going on.
It sounds like her life is full too.
Yeah.
I imagine your life is full taking them around all over the place.
Very much.
That's right
That's right.
All right.
All right.
Well, Leslie, it's been very nice tal... |
Thank you for calling.
Well thank you
and you have a nice evening.
You too.
Bye,
bye.
Bye now.
Okay.
Well, are you a fisher person, are you?
Yes,
I love to fish.
Great.
What kind of fishing do you do?
Well, it's mostly from the rivers and lakes.
In California?
And, yes,
and from the banks.
I don't like to go out on boa... |
Well, it, uh,
Uh-huh.
Oh.
But, I like it all except, uh, really I don't, I don't really care that much for the trout.
I think I had rather have a catfish than I would a trout
Well, I, I don't blame you.
I grew up in Nebraska and, uh, grew up fish, cat fishing in the Little Blue River
and then, uh, we moved to, uh, Sout... |
Yeah.
You know, uh, did you get to go fishing very often?
Oh yeah.
I like to fish.
The only problem is I just moved to Texas
so it's been a little over a year now
but, uh I, I am not quite sure what residency is for a fishing license here
Uh-huh.
and I, so really I haven't gone fishing for about two years now
Uh-huh.
a... |
Uh, and you're right.
I mean I like to fish for trout
and they are really, uh, uh, good fighters
but, uh, if I went to a restaurant that probably wouldn't be the first thing I would order if I had a choice of fish on the menu.
Yeah,
I know.
Yeah.
Well, uh, so, do you just, uh, uh, skin your catfish
or do you fillet the... |
No.
You know, uh, that's the way my mother taught me to fry them
so
Well, that's how we do it too.
Uh, although we, uh, use to set some, uh, trout lines out
and we've caught, you know, fourteen, fifteen pound catfish
and sometimes those are good to, uh, do on a barbecue grill and just leave the skin on and, uh, do it w... |
but, uh so far it's just been on, uh, on the trout lines
Um.
so,
Wouldn't that be something?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, uh, well up in, uh, South Dakota on the, in the Missouri River there we've, uh, tied into a few northern pike
and, uh, they really, uh,
in, in,
when the water is cold, they are very slow moving fish,
but in the... |
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Most of the time, uh, we just fished, uh, in the river although there were a lot of sand pits and things like that, that we could fish in.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
And a lot of them ended up being close to the river,
so if the river every, uh, flooded, you know, then obviously they would dump some catfish and ba... |
Well, okay.
All right.
Well, now, what would you say about these everyday invasions of our privacy?
What ideas do you have on that, Doug?
Um, see, I'm not sure that,
I don't think they're necessarily widespread in this country,
but I think that the opportunity is definitely there for, um, people to invade your privacy ... |
To me that's an invasion of privacy.
Yeah,
I agree with you there, for sure.
Um, and I think that all that information is quite easy for anyone to get.
It's possible for almost anyone to get information about your credit history, for instance, if they just, um, twist the right arm or claim to be from the right organiza... |
and it's hard to, hard to say whether the, um, risks have potential of outweighing the benefits or not,
and I'm not sure what can be done to ensure that they don't.
Why,
do you see any out for us?
Well, I would think that, uh, information held on records, uh, by any company or charge card dealer or person should be abs... |
so that's about the,
You don't get any newspapers?
Newspapers?
No,
I'm not too much in reading newspapers.
Uh, not that I don't enjoy newspapers or anything like that
but, uh, part of it is because I just don't feel like I need, the need to have them, uh, with watching the T V or whatever.
We get our weekly news around... |
so, uh, I, I kind of look through to see, see what, uh, I'm quoted in.
Oh, sure
But, uh, how, how bad the quotes are every day.
To see if they did it or if they, uh, criticize you or put something in there wrong.
Yeah.
Sure,
sure.
Or, uh, sometimes there's, uh, letter to the editor about me
or there's a, even, uh, edit... |
so, by that time, you know, old news is probably what I hear through the grapevine or whatever.
But, uh, unless there is a big issue going on like when we were at war then I think everybody was glued to the T V to find out what was going on.
Right.
But, uh, other than that, no.
It's,
And that's,
C N N had the, uh,
ever... |
that's true.
You know you know a lot of people that read the news to, newspapers to get the news of what's going on
and, uh, other people that, you know, do it differently or don't even watch any news at all
so. But,
Well, the thing is, with, with T V, I, I, uh,
a lot of times the, the news on, uh, the local T V is so ... |
Yeah.
So, I
I alway, always, I always turn that on
Yeah,
yeah.
that's one part I watch because of, uh, I go surfing down here
and I always want to watch the weather for when the waves are going to be good.
Uh-huh.
So you're right on the coast line.
You're not, uh, further up.
You're,
Yeah.
No.
Uh-huh.
Sure.
Sure.
I sup... |
Weather channel's good
Yeah,
that's about the only time in the, in the summer, uh, if you're watching T V for the weather, even though it's very hard to predict what's going on,
they'll kind of say, well, there's a thunderstorm warning or whatever.
This is the, what is expected,
but a lot of times things happen and cha... |
Okay.
So, what is your opinion on, on drug testing?
Well I can see it in certain cases where it might be, uh, somebody's in a position that, uh, perhaps a lot of lives are involved, like, maybe, uh, pilots that, uh, you know, fly jets
and, uh, maybe people that have a lot of responsibility over a large mass of people.
... |
I don't know.
There's certainly a lot of things to really consider, uh, when you get into drug testing people just at the work place unless, of course, like I said, they have a large responsibility over a mass of people
uh, that's about it.
Well, yeah,
it, it, it's just not the
you're talking about company's liability.... |
Exactly.
The only thing is,
There, there's the whole question that, that a, that a work force that is known not to be on drugs is going to be more healthy
I don't think anybody would argue with that.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The only thing is, uh,
the one issue that I would take stands with is the fact that the drug testing ... |
Right.
The question becomes what do you do about somebody who tests, who tests positive.
Exactly.
that's where the real sticking point comes in.
Uh-huh.
It's not,
I don't think there's any problem with testing people.
Sure.
It's what do you do with the information?
Sure.
Exactly.
and the only thing that I would say on ... |
or, or they on drugs,
you know what I'm saying.
Where there might be in the back of the mind of the employer that this person, uh, is on drugs
Right.
or make up, they may make up their mind that let's get rid of this employee,
you know what I'm saying?
Right.
Well, yeah.
I think clearly, the person who is the line th... |
Uh, I don't know.
Your camping experience is probably,
I don't know if they're similar to mine
but, uh, since I've had children it has changed a little bit,
but, uh, when my husband and I were, uh, camping, we'd take this domed tent that, uh, is easily collapsible and, uh, go camping and, uh, just kind of roughed it.
A... |
Very comfortable,
so.
Were you up in, in Wisconsin
or would you go into
where would you camp ?
Well, there's, uh, places in Wisconsin.
There's the Apostle Islands, uh which are in Bayfield which is a wonderful place.
Uh-huh.
And then there's also, uh, what we found, uh, in the state of, uh, South Dakota, the Black Hill... |
and it's just wonderful not to be bugged all night long with a humming mosquito at your ear,
Oh, yeah.
Well, most of my camping,
I haven't done much since I was a kid
but, uh, we'd, basically, take the tent up in the Sierras and, uh, usually just camp near some stream or some lake.
Uh-huh.
Sure.
And, uh, just,
it wasn... |
yeah.
I,
Anymore.
Yeah,
see
but it's, it, uh, uh,
actually some friends of mine and I are planning to camp this summer, uh, for four days.
Also going fishing, uh
Uh-huh.
Sure.
Uh-huh.
and I have a idea it's going to be a, a lot more equipment and a lot more stuff than before.
Than you,
sure.
Than it, when you were yo... |
With kids they don't care, you know, uh, a about a lot of things.
But as adults, uh, it's like if I don't take a shower every day, I feel like, you know, ooh.
Yeah.
I, I just don't feel right
so. There's lots of places if you're going to go camping.
K O A are wonderful.
It's kind of it's kind of the, uh, yuppie type of... |
Uh-huh.
So we never really spent that much time at the campground as much as we did,
So interesting political trends or events, huh?
Uh-huh.
Well, I guess the, uh, most interesting one that's, uh, going on right now, from my perspective, is this, uh, phenomena of, uh, uh, Ross Perot.
Uh, caught his interview last night... |
Uh-huh.
I,
as far as
like now, the new house bill that went to Minnesota, uh, being that it is their neighboring state and that I lived in Minnesota, I'm more familiar with the politics that involved with that, and that being passed.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, as far as politics in the grander, uh, part of it as if you want to l... |
I mean, here's, here's a guy who for twenty years has been working toward, you know, getting the party nomination and, and preparing himself for the presidency
and now it seems like both he and the incumbent President are, you know, pretty seriously threatened by somebody who comes out of a whole nonpolitical arena.
He... |
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Uh, and now it's,
And, and yet even he was a, a consummate politician in the sense that, uh, not only did he, uh, fail in business twice with bankruptcy and failure
Uh-huh,
sure.
but he lost some eighteen elections before he finally won one.
Uh-huh.
And the first and the first and only election he won was... |
But,
Whether or not I, you know,
you look at all these candidates that want to become president.
I really have to ask them why, you know.
Yeah
Uh, it's the toughest job in the world to do.
And not only that, you don't have that much freedom to make choices.
I mean you have to go through so many different,
Uh-huh.
you ... |
I make like lasagna
and, uh, oh, we like to have barbecues outside so, you know, when the weather's nice because in Texas you have a lot of nice weather,
so, we do a lot of, um, things like that.
Um, I'm not really into gourmet cooking,
so, I don't know how to do that,
so, I don't have gourmet foods
Do you do Tex-Mex?
... |
but you can either barbecue it which is really good, with, uh, green beans, not green beans but green peppers and red peppers and onions.
And, uh, then you put it on a flour, like, you know,
you make your meat real, uh, thin, you know, bite-size pieces.
Uh-huh.
Then you put it on flour tortillas with, you know, guacamo... |
anyway and, and my,
You cook them so often you kind of forget their names.
That's right,
that's right.
Yeah,
yeah.
It's called ,
now I remember it.
Oh.
And, um, dipping Arabic bread, the thin piece of bread in that.
Uh-huh.
Or another dip is made with, very similar but with, um, eggplant which has been actually
it ends... |
and,
But barbecue is it like steaks
or is it, uh, turkey?
Yeah,
you barbecue
Pardon me?
Would you barbecue a turkey or a chicken
or,
Oh, yeah,
you can barbecue turkey if you have a big enough grill
but my, I cook my turkeys inside, you know,
it
you can buy smoked turkeys.
Uh-huh.
And or, uh, but most the stuff that we ... |
Uh-huh.
I'm sure that the chicken that we barbecue from the Middle East has a lemon garlic sauce.
I wouldn't imagine that a barbecued chicken would.
No,
no,
this is more like hickories, hickory type, you know,
Uh-huh.
depending on the
it's like a smokey flavor, if you've ever, you know, had stuff like that.
Uh-huh.
Yea... |
it's been nice,
it's, uh, you know, new to learn some, what different people eat,
Right.
I come from Wyoming
and it's basically the same, same type of thing except for you do eat more the Tex-Mex down here,
so.
Uh, in Wyoming it would be less spicy?
Yeah,
yeah,
you, you know,
down there it's just like meat and potatoes... |
bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
All right,
Yes.
I, I,
Why do you think the apathy exists?
I blame it to apathy.
Yeah,
um, I, I suspect the apathy is due to something like people just feeling that, that their vote doesn't count anyway.
I mean, why, why bother voting if, um, if your vote won't make a difference.
So for instance, in, u... |
And I think the other thing is the news media puts such a blitz on it that they had it predetermined with a half of one percent voting, you know.
Um, that's true.
Actually I never thought about that,
that, that's a good
And I, I think the, you hear the news, you know, you start out in the morning, and all day you hear ... |
I think it is totally wrong,
well.
Uh.
I think that the people that are, have, um, a lower income, which you automatically equate with lower education tend not to be registered.
Right.
Um.
And they don't register,
and they don't understand that you can't go and vote and register all at the same time,
or when it gets do... |
I had an interesting comment one time, a thought that would never have crossed my mind.
I had someone tell me that, I will never register to vote because I don't want to serve on a jury
Um?
What do they have to do with one another?
I just, I, they, I just wandered off from that one.
I was just so surprised and amazed w... |
right.
There are so many other ways.
But that one, it just defeated me.
I didn't have any answer for that one.
That one was just beyond my imagination.
Well, that, that just seems to be a person who just doesn't care about much of anything around, sort of, you know, doesn't, doesn't, sort of, likes rights probably, but... |
At last, someone wants us to vote.
They were standing in lines to vote.
Yes,
they were, they were doing that.
Unfortunately, what, what, they, they had no idea what they were voting on it turns out.
And their vote didn't count
That's right.
But, but it's the thought, they all got out
But you wonder, if, you know, if, i... |
Yeah,
I think
and I think that's real important.
Oh and I think women turn out to vote for women, too.
That's probably true.
Yeah,
I
well, I know it's true.
You see a lot of that. You know, rally behind the female.
She may lose,
but by golly we're going to make a statement here you know.
Um.
That's good,
that's actuall... |
Was, was that the time,
no
that was eighty-four,
that's too soon.
She said something about, uh, Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did,
and she did it backwards in high heels.
That's very good.
She said that,
I didn't.
Said, you know,
don't tell me what women can do.
That's, that's, that's, that's very good.
Tha... |
or, or emotional politicians, certain very vibrant politicians tend to bring crowds out, I think.
I would hope.
Well, and some of the issues are so emotional.
Uh-huh.
You know, some of the really, the really emotional ones.
Have you followed the Dallas elections on zoning?
No,
I've heard of it,
but not necessarily the,... |
I don't, I don't really know if some of the poor judges that are trying to decide how it should be divided.
Uh-huh.
I wonder about them at some point.
Um, uh-huh.
Well, they were elected as well,
so. So. So they're going to be,
That's correct.
And that's, and that's another interesting question.
Should judges be electe... |
Uh-huh.
It's situational, really.
So, how do you think we can get people to vote?
Uh, uh,
I've had one idea that I think is, is, is completely undoable,
but, but I think,
but I suspect it would work.
And the way to do it is to get an absolutely atrocious candidate, who you never expect to win, to go out and make inflam... |
Uh-huh.
That's an interesting notion.
That might work in some places.
That, that, that, that would be interesting,
yes,
I think that would work in some places,
yeah ...
Okay.
So, uh, then, do you keep kids?
Is this two year old yours
or do you keep children for other people?
No.
I have two children.
I have a two year o... |
my, my little girl was three and a half in March
and my son was two in January.
Oh, boy.
Well, mine was two in March
and the three and a half year old will be four in, in July.
That's pretty close.
So that is pretty close
Yeah.
But I'm home with the kids all day
and I have really, uh, tried to make that a priority even... |
Yeah.
Oh, how neat.
and that was another reason why I really wanted to be here because, you know, they have had a couple foster homes already.
How old were they when you adopted?
The baby was eleven weeks old
and his brother was twenty, twenty-two months.
So he probably doesn't remember.
Oh.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah,
definitely... |
And my husband was in the type of business that, you know,
it's insurance
so you have to build a clientele
and by the time we had kids I couldn't quit.
Oh, boy.
And so I haven't been able to quit yet.
So I've had to deal a lot with child care
and course, we're hoping within, hopefully, the next two years I'll be able t... |
Yeah.
I had good peace of mind.
I knew that they were taken care of
and,
That's the hardest thing I think, you know to, to deal with is that people love your, kids.
Yeah.
I put, uh, my oldest in a preschool program just for him to have the experience of two mornings a week of being with other kids and starting to lear... |
The were almost all boys.
But she had no help?
Pardon?
She had no help?
She was alone with them.
I didn't think much.
I don't think much.
Oh, that is hard.
Yeah.
And she was just my, uh,
three year old is real active.
Yeah.
And she just kept saying how wild he was.
Well, you know, there was kind of a connotation there ... |
Yeah.
and it's really hard to
you can't control eleven three year olds with one person, you know.
You have to let them have some wild time if that's considered wild
Yeah, you know.
So I just finally took him out. Plus financial reasons.
Yeah.
It was expensive.
But I was real careful and visited and everything ahead of... |
After that, I found another girl that had gone to church with us that, you know, they needed it financially.
She had a little boy that was the same age as my little boy
and I though,
well, you know, we'll try her.
But she came to our house
and that just did not work.
Uh-huh.
Uh, I mean, she loved the kids
and she was g... |
and the,
You had to come home and clean before you could even do anything probably.
and clean,
and I was like,
Yeah.
And then, in the end, uh, she basically ended up stealing a hundred dollars from me
so I was, I had a pretty bad taste in my mouth.
She told me about five thirty one afternoon, it was a Friday, that she... |
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's what they said.
There were two pretty near our house
and they said, well, bring them in this week for a free day
so I lined up someone Tuesday.
They had a Mother's Day Out that my baby-sitter took them to, you know, which was fine.
They liked it.
They had been going to it for years.
Uh-huh.
And... |
And the other one was that the, the younger one got bit really badly by another child
Oh.
Oh, that's horrible.
And doing something with him.
Yeah.
Well, not only was it going to cost me like a hundred and fifty dollars more a month, which I didn't have you know. I didn't, I, you know,
Yeah.
we're, we're a Christian fam... |
Yeah.
You know, basic things like that.
Yeah,
basic.
Yeah.
So, uh, I talked to another lady at church.
It was like Thursday of that week
and she said oh, I found the most wonderful place that I've been taking my daughter
and I've know this girl,
I went to college with her
so I really, I, you, I, I value her opinion.
An... |
But she said, I had a mother tell me that she may take a job in San Antonio
and she has a three year old and a toddler, which mine was at the time.
Yeah.
And she said I should know something by tomorrow, which was Friday,
and she said if she leaves, she said, I'll let you have her spot.
Wow.
And so Friday afternoon at ... |
and the cost was not near as much as the Kindercares were going to be.
Yeah
Oh, really?
Wow.
Did you hear my printer in the background.
I'm sorry.
I hope you can understand what I
That's okay
I got the dryer going in the background
Yeah.
so
I was only about twenty dollars more a month than I was paying because being a ... |
So I guess as long as I have to work, I feel good that they're there.
they're getting the love, the care.
They have a little curriculum.
They teach them, you know, the alphabet, the numbers, the things which, you know, if they learn, they learn.
If they don't, they don't.
I don't feel like I have to indoctrinate them b... |
and, you know, they mark it all down
and they let you know
and, and, you know, they get over it real quick
and he doesn't do it anymore
and they work at the potty
Yeah.
I just, just
so mu,
I don't know.
I just feel like a big burden was lifted
Really.
Because sometimes it is a burden having them all day because I can't... |
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