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I feel so silly but, See, I have never put bell pepper in tuna fish either. Yeah. Isn't that funny? I was brought up with tuna fish, you know, where you put in, uh, oh, chopped hard boiled eggs which is now is a no, no with cholesterol and, uh, you know, chopped up dill pickles. And that sort of thing. Right. Right. Th...
I will have to try that. Do you use a regular mayonnaise or, The Miracle Whip. Sometimes I do and sometimes I use the Miracle Whip. It depends on what I have. Yeah. And sometimes, if I am using, like, regular mayonnaise, to spice it up a little bit uh, I will use a little bit of mustard with it. Uh-huh. Yeah. I do tha...
And, uh, and, and, they are so easy to do if you, uh, have a good barbecue sauce Uh-huh. and you, uh, just cook them very, very slowly in the oven. Uh-huh. And it is not hard to cook, like some meals are. Yeah. And it is not, of course, it is messy to eat. That is the disadvantage. Yeah. And, uh, I make lasagna from sc...
Uh-huh. That is the hardest part probably. But, uh, Then, I have a wonderful recipe for strawberry pie. It just takes forever Uh. But, it is, uh, when the strawberries are nice, and big and fresh and yummy. Do you make cheesecake? Uh, uh-huh. I do. But this one is basically, it is like a normal pie crust. Uh-huh. But t...
but, and it is not a real cheese cake and then you, And just put the strawberries, Ok. Ok, I was watching the soap opera awards. Oh And, uh, it is really making me want to exercise because every single woman in the audience is, uh, about ten pounds. Oh So. Uh, I started anchoring last, uh, anchoring, uh, exercising las...
so I am not exercising at the time, at the moment. Uh-huh. So, I wish I could. I wish I did have the motivation to get out and do that, but I just do not like just running with no where to go I just cannot do that. So, Well, I understand that. I have been trying to get myself motivated. I had gone, gotten up regularly ...
Yeah. And of course, it is motivation that is keeping me from really looking for that opportunity. I think a lot of the times, if you have someone to, uh, work out with, or walk with, or something, it does give you that motivation. Oh, yeah. And you can also, I mean you can, you know, pretty much do it privately if you...
I am also, it is hard to get my attitude to, uh, to get myself up there. That is very true. It seems like you walk quicker. You just, perky is a good word for it when you exercise. Yeah. Yeah. And I understand that walking is suppose to be the, like, the best exercise. Better than running. Yeah. Yeah. Things like that ...
Yeah. So. Last time I tried running with my daughter cause she is supposed to be jogging in P E and it felt good, but then I had pulled a muscle in my knee. Actually, I hyper extended it or something, and, uh boy, Wow. I was suffering for about three weeks later. Wow. So, and I have never had that problem before Yeah. ...
and if you watch television, they usually have television in there or something, or if you listen to a walkman, it is pretty, it is pretty okay. Again, that is sort of weird, because you, you, are not going anywhere and, uh, I use to play racquetball Uh-huh. and I really liked that, because, you know, to me it had a po...
Yeah. I know a lot of people just to be safe, like you were talking about, walking at night and in the morning or early in the morning. Uh, Yeah. you see a lot of, uh, mostly older people though but, that, uh, walk in the malls. Oh, yeah. You know, like early in the mornings and things like that. I have never tried tha...
I could walk for three or four miles out in the neighborhood here and feel real good. There I could barely make a couple of miles Uh-huh. And that is a little less, Well, what kind of music do you like? Well, seeing as how I'm a musician I like all kinds of music. Yeah. All very very kinds. Me too. I mostly like classi...
Mostly the trumpet music uh, uh, uh, baroque and, uh, uh, uh Romantic. Jazz. Baroque and romantic. Uh-huh. Yeah, that is not, there is, uh, things written for Doc Severenson and, uh, a few other people. But, uh, they are just, uh, as far as solos and concertos are concerned, but the rest of them are just parts Right. ...
He has come back a couple of times. Then there is a trumpet player at North Texas, the, the teacher, the main teacher. Yeah Leonard . And he has played. And the two of them have played natural trumpets And occasionally, when she can't get those people, we use you know, just uh, E flat trumpets, with valves and like Gle...
He is wonderful. Both of them are. Uh-huh So do you like romantic music? Well, that is what, that is mostly the rest of good trumpet marks are romantic music, Mahler and Ruckner and Strauss Uh-huh Do you like opera? Uh, I like, I am liking it more and more now. Uh-huh. Getting use to it They are mostly, uh, mostly Moza...
Uh-huh. Are you going to go see the Elixir of Love? No. Do you ever go to the Dallas Opera? Uh, no I have never been to a Dallas Opera only the Fort Worth Opera Uh-huh. And my trumpet teacher used to play in the Fort Worth Opera. Who was your trumpet teacher? John Nelson. Uh-huh. I know him, I kind of know him. Uh-huh....
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I am basically a Church musician. I do a Church in Plano. Uh-huh. And we do all kinds of music at my Church and we hire lots of instrumentalists off and on for, uh, different things. So, I am always making music of one kind or another. Uh-huh. Which Church is it? The Christ United Methodist Church in ...
In fact he is playing this Sunday at our Church. But he plays pretty regularly. He is still teaching at Brookhaven, isn't he? Uh, I think so. He teaches a lot in Plano at high schools Uh, yeah. and, I think he teaches at Brookhaven. Yeah, because I heard Glen Bell taught at Plano as well. Yeah, Glen teaches here too. U...
Lot of them are former music teachers or currently teaching. Uh, others have, there's one gal that's in the, uh, Plano Community Orchestra. Uh, just, you know, different backgrounds. It's been really kind of interesting. Great. So, Uh, I play the piano Um. and, uh, I have a four year old who, who has started to play th...
Uh, basically they read in the newspaper that there were open auditions. It was the Plano Repertory Theatre. Uh-huh. And so they went and tried out and my husband played Harold Hill from the Music Man and my son played one of the children in a band. Oh, how fun. So, yeah, it was really fun, and, uh, my son plays the cl...
You say have your four year old taking lessons already? Uh-huh. And, uh, who do you have her, or him, take it from? Uh, I have him take from a friend of mine who teaches Suzuki. Which is an auditory type learning experience. Uh-huh. You listen to the music and then learn to play it by by hearing the intervals and thing...
So that was really fun. Well, because my, My husband and I love to go to the musicals downtown, though. Pardon me? So, my husband and I love to go to the musicals when they come into town into Dallas. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, I have an eight and a half year old daughter who's taking piano lessons and started out at the ag...
and you're like God, I really want you to do it. Uh-huh Yeah. You know. Yeah. So sometimes it's hard to, to know exactly when, but, I don't know, if she acts like she wants to or says she wants to maybe you could have her take some for a while and see how she likes it. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, I think she'd like to, I jus...
She does have to really work at it, but, uh, so, That's like me. Yeah, but, so I'm kind of, you know, just playing with it, but at this point we're going to kind of wait, I think just more for the financial reasons of it anyway but, Well, it can get expensive Yeah. that's for sure. Yeah. I, my friend is, is very genero...
Something happening to me at Christmas time that, that verified to me that I will I'm ready Why don't you go ahead and start off Okay, well, I don't have an elderly person that I could send to a, a nursing home or anything. My, both of my parents are dead, but I did have a friend that was in a convalescent home, uh, li...
Oh, I can believe that. Yes, because most elderly people can't take having a lot of noise and kids running around and things like that. In a situation like that maybe it would be better. Well, we've, you know, we've struggled a lot with it because, again, most of the nursing homes I've been in are very depressing to me...
Yeah, really, you know. And when the kids have kids come, you know, she's always saying, you know, why do they have to be here, why can't they send them home, it's too noisy and she'll say that to the kids' friends. Uh-huh. Yeah, right, right. So it's a hard situation, either way, I think. Yeah, in a case like that, yo...
Oh, prohibitive. a lot of people can't afford that. Yeah. You know, so you really have no choice that way if you, you know, if you're not rich or you know. Uh, I know this lady that, you know, that was a friend of mine, now her husband was still alive at the time when she was in there, you know, and it was costing him ...
You know, so that would probably be nice if we could ever get something like that but, But there's not many of those available right now Yeah. and they're very hard to get them into and we tried sending her to a senior citizen center. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But they're really not prepared to cope with her because she's somewh...
if if they don't know anybody and they don't know what's going on around them and everything like that, well, I can see, maybe a nursing home would be better, you know. And yet, But if they, they have their wits about them and everything, why, it's kind of hard And then I think it depends on their physical ability, too...
but then I have a Uh, why don't you go ahead first. Okay. Uh, short term, uh, it works out pretty well because we have just enough to cover expenses with a little left over so budgeting in the short term isn't too much of an issue because there's not that much, uh extra to go around. Sure. Uh, long term is something we...
Uh, long term, that's a little bit easier for us because, uh, with our jobs we can take out extra money towards savings, Four Oh One K plans uh, that kind of, you know, retirement plans, that kind of stuff Uh-huh. so we can kind of put aside some money that actually is better for us not to see versus when it's on the ...
But ours is more like month to month too, uh, short term is, to get things going so. Anyway, other than that, uh, is kind of how we do it so. I don't know if we're, our time is up or what Uh-huh. Uh, they'll, uh They'll let us know Yeah, exactly. We, we actually do have some money in a Four Oh One K. I just wish I cou...
Right. And, uh, you know, exactly whatever is in our checking account is basically just about what gets spent. Yeah. It's put into our savings account and we don't see it, then it works out to where, you know, you don't look at it, you just look at the checking account, and say this is what we have for money and that's...
I guess there, other than things like the stock market or mutual funds, there's really not much of a return on anything these days. Exactly. Right now. Yeah, it's a bad time, you know. Yeah, the interest is so low. I mean it, it's nice for people buying homes but for older people who have money in C D or whatever, it m...
I'm, I'm with a small company now and I hope that, uh, if we're successful that they'll go in for some sort of profit sharing Sure. that'll be very nice. Yeah, that's great, yeah Okay. Well I guess we're kind of running out of steam on this topic here. Yeah, exactly Okay. Well, uh, just briefly. Uh, I worked in a nursi...
and they cook meals and they clean their house for them, that kind of thing, so they still have their own independence and not reliable, you know, they don't have to be in a nursing home situation. But, uh, I don't think the nursing homes, when I was working in them, were very much understaffed, very much, uh, in need ...
I'm not quite sure, but hopefully, they have. Yeah, I guess I haven't had that much experience. I've only seen like my great grandparents in a nursing home Uh-huh. but I have an aunt who lived on her own until she was well in her nineties Yeah. Sure. and then she, she got sick and she ended up in nursing home Uh-huh. a...
but I'm sure that some of the patients were, uh, given medication to keep them in, uh, quiet and, and, Nice sedative state. Yeah, yeah. And they would just lay all day long and, uh, the ones they also put mentally ill patients in the same, they were not on the same, you know, ward, but they, they were in the same nursi...
I mean she just came up right behind him and pulled his hair, you know, and it was a guy that was just really upset. I mean he said what the hell are you think you're doing, you know, and I laughed at it then but then I'm thinking God, you know, if I had to put my parents in that nursing home, I wouldn't want them ther...
Because it seems like the small town nursing homes, there's a lot more personal attention. I don't know. I don't know. I, I kind of look at it this way. I think if you have a big city area, I think there's more people to keep watch on it. Uh-huh. You have more options. And, Yeah, yeah. And you have more competition. ...
Sure. We pay far too much in taxes. Well, far too much for what we get. I mean it's just, I don't know, it just seems too much of the money is just lost Uh-huh. I agree. Uh-huh. Well I think, uh, you know, when I look at, uh, all the things that are coming out now about over spending and spending money that's not there...
it's real easy to spend other people's money. Right? Right. An unlimited source so they, they think well I'll go out and buy a four hundred toilet seat and I could have went to K-Mart and bought it for, you know, ten or fifteen I mean, that kind of thing and, uh, Right. I don't mind them getting what they need. It's ju...
I mean you just got it done. Now people are putting in bids for things and are looking at things. Going to actually shop at Best Buy for, Best Buy is one of our electronic stores for fax machines, things like that, instead of going through these office supply companies that mark up their amounts and say, you know, I'll...
so Uh-huh. Between Four Oh One K and, and the thirty-four percent they're taking out for taxes. Sure. Exactly. Let alone what I end up having to pay Uh-huh. Exactly. Yeah, that's the whole thing. Now they have gotten this wonderful idea of not taking out as much taxes, but you're still going to owe the government as mu...
the month after Christmas is supposed to be high spending because everything is on sale. Nobody's going to have the money to spend. Sure none . They're going to be paying on their taxes so they're going to have to just cut back so, I don't know where the answer is and I don't, in the first place, you know, there's also...
and people don't care anymore either. No. No. People don't want to go out to vote. Well, I don't think people think they can make a difference. And when you've got candidates as you do. It's candidates that have money Yep. and it's backed by big business. And big business says well we don't care about the little person...
And maybe that's going to happen to America where they'll say, hey we're fed up. Yeah, I wonder though Maybe it'll have to be just individual state tax. And each state take care of itself and no government type of, uh, you know, where you have to pay out to federal or whatever. I don't know. Who knows but, Yeah, I'm no...
in fact, I'm not sending in my check or So what do you think? Should they, uh, should young Americans be forced to do a year of service? I don't, I don't think they should be forced, but I think they should be, I guess, encouraged to, to do some kind of public work, I guess to, just to get them, I guess involved with c...
Your right, I do, too, I think they start out young, like in, uh, Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts a video doing Right, exactly. I was a, I was a Boy Scout. As part of being a Boy Scout, you had to do, you know, projects all throughout and then to become an Eagle Scout you have to spend a, do a yearlong project. Right, that'...
And even if it is a couple times a year like at the holidays, I mean at least they're getting out and doing it and you know, helping, helping out. I think that's good and, Well, we have a funny commercial around here. It says something like, if people were to give five, hours a week or five percent of their salary, we ...
and I think that's pretty neat. They, uh, go along and have so many miles I guess of highway to take over Uh-huh. and they clean it up. I've seen that. Yeah. And keep it clean. I think that's I pretty good idea. And I think, you know, again I've seen a lot of young kids doing that and I think it gets them prepared to, ...
Where are you at? Yeah, uh, I'm in, uh, New York. New York. Upstate New York, yeah. Oh, gosh. And, uh, Yeah. Long way, uh, Yeah And we just had a really big ice storm. And, basically, half the trees in, in our city, I'm in Rochester which is, uh right upstate. Half of the trees in the city, uh, are no good anymore. Uh-...
You know, it was, and, you know, and, and they, and we didn't have power for a week and there are still people who don't have power. Are you serious? Oh, yeah, it's been, it's been, it's been ten days already and there are still something like ten thousand people without power. Oh my God, how do they live? and were off...
and, and, they're you know, putting out ads now for people to come volunteer, or to have their organizations come, volunteer to help clean up the streets. Well, that's good. That's great. Because we have, you know, everywhere that a tree is down people need help and, we're all, all, a lot of older folks need help gett...
I mean, it's not a lot because you're just doing a house at a time, but you know, every little bit helps. And is that supported by all donations to the church and so forth or, Uh, yeah. They, uh, luckily we have a, a man who owns a building company. Oh, so he, So he donates a lot, not everything, but a lot of the mater...
Like this last couple we helped, you know, they were in their eighties and she was bedridden and, I just, you know, just tears your heart out to to see this kind of thing Yeah. and you know, if you can do any a little bit, it helps, so That's, that's, uh, that's real good. Yeah. We had, uh, we had organizations like th...
That's, that's a lot of kids, though. And she thinks, yeah, twenty-five percent. It, it was a small school Oh, well, still that's a, you know, that's a good chunk of kids. But, uh, Yeah, but, I mean, a, a, a lot of people would get involved and, you know, because there were all different, organizations to do. There was...
I don't think they should have to do a year Yeah, no, neither do I. I think it should be completely optional and you know. Yeah. I don't think that, some people I don't think have, uh, a year in them to volunteer if you know what I mean. They're not worth it Yeah, they're not worth a year. Or some people just, just can...
Oh. And, you know, he and his wife just went off to visit her and, you know, I know I could never afford to go visit a kid in Guatemala. I couldn't either. You know, so I couldn't either. so I think, you know, and, and, and the kid's certainly not making much money. Right, right. So I can see where that, that, may be a...
Yeah, I don't, I wish I could do something like that, but I can't, so Yeah, yeah, well neither can I, so, I, I, I, I, I, I, did my service before and I'll do my little community service throughout, but never never for a year again. Right, that's the way I am. I know the feeling. So, so I guess our vote is no That's ri...
Well, yeah, we're, we're slowly getting everything back together again. You know, it, it's taking time, but everything, you know, Yeah. we got lucky. We had no damage to our house or anything so, The rest will just have to come with time. Good, good, that's great. Yeah. Well, good luck. Well, good luck to you, too. Tha...
I guess I don't have a real technical knowledge for what happened I gather that there where large numbers of situations where loans were made that appeared to be a good loan but in a speculative since and with have little regulation going on because of deregulation during the Reagan eight years, uh, more and more S and...
or within I think people just started, you know, not being as careful with the loans that they were making whenever, you know, whenever they gave them out. Uh-huh. I think maybe they didn't check into them enough or maybe because everyone else was doing they figured they would just go ahead and approve it also so. Yeah...
Or whether they had extracted enough money in a percentage base that they, that they didn't care any more, I, just, I'm rather puzzled about the, whole thing Uh-huh. I know, well, I'm, uh, I know a little bit about it but I don't as much as I should know about it I'm a finance major here at Clarion. Okay. And, um, I do...
And I think if they would be more bound to certain loans and not as high of insurance by the reserve, then I don't think this would have happened. Okay. Well do you think we, there's a final accounting, yet not, in the since of pennies an nickels, but do you think there's accounting on an ordered of magnitude or, or th...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. Do you think to possibly is that it will help with the regular banks? I, I don't know. I I think it would be harder but I think there are some regular banks that will go down with it. It seems that I recall reading for the last oh, let's say starting three years a go but not so much in the last year of ...
it's impossible to get it back. And so you think that it's just gone. Uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah, cause we're, you know, we're talking about some peens that have just like even gave up on like getting it back and trying any more. Okay. They just totally wrote it off their book. Do you think it is necessary to have the federa...
as long as there's enough little companies we're going to have to have something. Um, so your since is that the, that, uh, the loan guaranties which really were accounts guaranties, so the, so that the account holders that if something went wrong they would have their money. Uh-huh. Right. And given that the S and Ls h...
Someone whose got accounts in thirty-five different S and Ls or thirty or forty thousand dollars and they're all protected by the government. Seems to me like they've gotten around what was intended to be the issue there. Uh-huh, I guess I don't have a personal since of V on it since I, was not a heavy user of any S an...
Uh-huh. Well, perhaps if there are regulatory, uh, constraints put back in place. It will protect that Uh-huh. maybe we have learned a little bit of a lesson here about what happens if you remove a little of the regulation, uh. Well, my family moved to Texas about eight years ago. My husband was raised here, by I, I ha...
And it's hard, but, um, I think that is what we have to have, you know, have our streets and have, have our government and Excuse me. And have, and have the services that we need and we have to pay for them and pay for the employment of the people that run them and, and things like that and I think, I guess, what I fee...
No. And there's, you know, some people, you know, who are abusing the systems that we pay taxes to support and all that makes us feel bad. But I think, all in all, how I feel, is that, um, I'm willing to pay the taxes because I think I like our country compared to the other countries I've studied and visited. And I'm w...
They had personal property taxes on like cars and, the first year we were there it was kind of like, eight hundred dollars, Oh, no. And we're like . My husband says I used to complain to pay sixty dollars to get licensed in Texas and now, you know, Huh-uh. So, I mean, that was kind of different and then to file a, a st...
So, you know, I think, if, I can understand why the rich people don't want to pay, you know, a large, large percent Huh-uh. because, you know, that's not really fair, either. If they've earned money by themselves, well, you know, people just kind of given the money, Yes. it's kind of depressing sometimes, I think. Well...
In that, even if they made that kind of money, there's some countries that have like, fifty percent income tax, you know, that have, socialized medicines and things that, Yeah. they, um, they wouldn't be able to enjoy the in that. So that, you know, they need to be willing to pay a little bit more for it. Yes, they've ...
Yeah. There's something about, um, the industry in the state, That, um, Yeah. there's enough. I know, we moved here from Houston and the city had enough money. It was really nice that they had, um, that they began to cut back because of the oil problems, but, um, they would have, um, so many community outdoor theaters ...
And I, you know, like the property tax that we pay is so much higher than my parents pay in Missouri. But, um, I'm, I'm comfortable at least in this year, with, with, we have some good schools. The school thing might be changing but, I'm willing to pay for that for my children. Yeah. And I'm willing to sacrifice, I gue...
do you get to pick the subject or, No. No. They just define it to you and so, you get what, uh, get luck of the draw Oh. I see. but, Yeah Yeah, anyway, well, good luck to you. Okay, you, too. Bye. Bye-bye. Hello Hi Hi, My name's Ken,
Hi Ken, my name's Diane. And, um, you're in Texas, right? Yes, I'm in San Antonio. Everybody's in Texas. God, I'm in Rochester, New York. Everybody else but one has been in Texas. Oh. Okay, well I guess we should get on with this. Okay. Um, did you get the message about what it was, right. Yes. Okay, go ahead, I'm goin...
Okay, um, do you think that the Soviet Union represents a threat to us? I think they'll always represent a threat whether or not there's an active cold war or not. Uh, it's, it's a totally different economy based on different beliefs, and, and, uh, different priorities, and, uh, given the, the, uh, military powers on b...
I don't know They, they're going downhill pretty steady. Yeah. But I, I agree right now they're not, I don't believe they're a large threat right now. I think there's always some threat. Yeah, oh, I agree. I mean, if we were to, if, if something were to happen, I'm sure they would all of a sudden band together just for...
Yeah. and he's also, I think he's also making, um, the military angry at him. Yeah. I mean, I've heard stories now where the, where the, um, the military is running around, and they're sort of getting restless, and a restless military is the kind of thing that happens, you know like with the Baltic states when they jus...
I mean, and it, it might be something that he wouldn't be able to control. That's, that, that's something that really true sort of a military thing I was speaking of before. Uh-huh. That's, that's certainly true. I mean, his military may just go out and say, Well, we just, Gorbachev said you can't do it, and we're to n...
I guess as long as, uh, they're fighting each other, we don't have to worry about them wasting their time with us. Yeah, but wouldn't it be nice if no one had to fight anybody else. Well, sure, that, but that's a, that's an impossibility, I think given the differences in the world, Yeah. and people are just too differe...
matter of fact about another topic, but it came up, one of these calls Uh-huh. matter of fact, about, um, another topic, but it came up, one of these, this, this poem, Everything I Wanted to Know I Learned in Kindergarten, or something. Uh-huh. You've read that one before. No, I haven't read it. I've heard all about it...
and that would be all. If we could just do the same thing sort of, with, with, with everybody else, I suspect we'd, we'd be fine. Yes, but people grow up, and they forget. Yeah, unfortunately. Well. Because I often, I often sort of wonder how, having never been to the Soviet Union, um, how different the people there re...
Like you said before, so it would be interesting to watch. Yeah, I and, I, the, the people. I just feel so sorry for the people in the country, that they can't, I mean, they, they can't do they can't change it. They try they, and they, there's nothing that they can do. Yeah, that's, that's and the ones I even feel some...
You be this way. It's a, I think it's a sad state of affairs, but. It's, it's probably not dissimilar from the, uh, what are they, the, the, the, I'm trying to think of the name of the, the , something like that in Northern Iraq who are actually countrymen of, Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, some of them were split off into Is...
and now they just want to sort of speak up and say Hey, we want our piece. Yeah. And they have like a problem, they have Muslims to deal with as well as Saddam Hussein. Uh-huh. I, I mean I think their big problem up there is, you know, unfortunately, not only are they there's more than one group fighting for the same p...
And that's, they don't all have their own country, and, and some of them are mad about it Uh-huh. Um, actually, my wife is Syrian, so I, I, also I know some of the history . Oh. And actually the other funny thing is that I'm, I'm Jewish. We're sort of like the Middle East peace talks ourselves. Oh, uh-huh. So we, I, I ...
but they wanted to do it. So. Yeah, and I don't think the people here two hundred years ago were that different, I really don't. That's, that's certainly true. I mean, they had the same ideals and the same basic beliefs. Right, uh, I wonder, I wonder if now the people in the Soviet Union don't have ideas very different...
So, uh, as you indicated you don't have too much input into the area it, it just so happens that, uh, our daughter-in-law is Panamanian, and, uh, we have been in Panama and I have worked in El Salvador and, uh, we visit Mexico occasionally, so, yeah, we, we do have a little information on it here, but, uh, Oh, very goo...
well, I kind of go back to, to the El Salvador thing because Texas Instruments had a, a plant down there for a while, and I worked in there for a little while, and at that particular time, let's, let's see, that was seventy-three, seventy-four kind of before the, the, uh, the Civil War really picked up down there, and ...
and it was worked on down there, assembled, and then sent back here, so, Uh-huh, did that have, I didn't feel that we really exploiting them any. Um, so, you don't, you don't feel that, that we were, um, exploiting in the sense of we were benefiting and they weren't. No, uh, in the particular incidence that I was aware...
did we tend to, um, change their attitudes like sometimes when Americans go into foreign countries they tend to flaunt American things, Americanism, um, consumer products, T V, the whole works. Yeah, I understand what you say. There was a, uh, the time that I was down there, I stayed quite a, a bit at the, uh, uh, one ...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. And, uh, but boy there is a, there is a bad, uh, uh, you know, the old brash or ugly American-type, situation. Uh-huh. And I saw incidences in the hotel where I just wanted to go over and crawl in the corner and say, oh, my God those are, those are not Americans they can't be. Right. But there are and, ...
Uh-huh. matter of fact if anything, she's worse. Uh-huh, uh-huh But, uh, uh, it, it just, there's little enclaves down there where, you know, Americans have a lot of influence and the local population kind of, um, you know, sort of accepts that, but I've also seen the other side of it, too. Uh-huh Well, you were in Per...
but, and I was working actually in the savings and loan program, so, that was quite specialized, although I was living in the slums, I was really working with the middle class. Uh-huh What, uh, what area did you live in? I was up in Arequipa . Oh, okay yeah. And, um I've heard of it. Uh-huh so. Well, is, are they, is P...
Oh, has those influences lasted do you know whether the, the things that, that you and your groups before you did, did those, did those live on or were they reabsorbed or how, No, no, I believe they did because, um, some of, some of the, the Peace Corps, uh, that I knew of, did marry Peruvians, and have been back Uh-hu...