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So.
Well, and it, it, you know,
but I
I, I, I wish you could find a good Mother's Day Out because that would be good for your peace of mind also.
Yeah,
I need to.
Even for just a couple days a, mornings a week or something to have something like that,
Yeah.
so I, I think I'm going to look for that.
Remind me of that n... |
My baby-sitter would take them and then pick them up.
Yeah
So, that worked out real good.
That's sounds good.
Well, I'm tickled to death.
I hope you find something
and it was good talking to you.
Well, thanks.
Did we cover everything we need to?
Well, I guess.
Okay.
It said child care criteria
Okay.
and I think we bot... |
Bye-bye
Bye
Okay.
I was thinking about camping and different people's ideas about it.
Uh-huh.
We've even seen people with these campers
and they got the big old antennas up so they can watch their T V when they're going.
Right or their satellite dish
That's not,
Yeah
A satellite dish?
On top of the recreational vehicl... |
Well, so do we.
In fact, when we first got married, we would try to take these trips to Minnesota to see his family
Uh-huh.
and we didn't have a tent or any camping supplies
so we'd sleep on those picnic tables at roadside parks.
Oh no.
I mean, I know it's dangerous,
I wouldn't do it now
but we did
And one time we went... |
Have you done any camping around here?
Yeah.
We've got some land at Holly Lake outside of Tyler.
Uh-huh.
And we go up there fairly often
Sometimes we get a lot of people together to do it.
Yeah.
That sounds fun.
And we've done things like when, when it's kind of cold.
We take extension cords
and we've all got heaters i... |
So it's not so bad.
Yeah.
Do you go on long?
Like a week at a time or just weekends?
I think the longest we've stayed out there is like five days.
Uh-huh.
And they even, they had a library at one time out there.
Oh.
So that's really not roughing it so much
but we have gone on trips where we bathed in streams.
Yeah.
Uh... |
Uh-huh.
and there was nobody else, hardly, around
and it was just really nice, that time of year.
We had taken our electric, blanket too, just in case it was unbearable
but we didn't need it
Yeah .
Well my husband has even camped at Lake Lavon with one of his friends
Oh really?
he just decided to take the kids out the... |
And most of the time we decided we wanted to stay in a hotel.
Yeah.
Instead of getting out all that stuff, you know.
Yeah,
it's a lot of work to set up just for one night.
Yeah.
Then you have to get up the next day and move it on.
Right
Huh-uh.
But we're set now.
We've got cook stoves
and we've got our bug light
and ev... |
Uh-huh.
Pretty good.
We're on our third one I think.
Somehow,
Yeah.
How do you blow yours up?
We've got an electric pump that hooks into the cigarette lighter.
Oh.
we were looking at those in a magazine.
Last time we went, we took our vacuum cleaner with us
I didn't know you could do that.
And, yeah, you can, if you ca... |
We have a, my husband and I, we have a pickup truck
so there's plenty of room to hold things.
Yeah.
Now we've used a hair dryer before.
Uh-huh.
But I put it on hot and also melted it.
Oh no
I found that you don't do that.
Yeah.
I didn't realize it would melt so easily.
Oh.
I don't know.
We take, we take our dog camping... |
and it came, just a torrential downpour.
We had the steaks on the grill.
These people were with us.
And it, , I mean everything was sopping wet inside the tent.
It was just that bad, you know
Oh no.
And we decided we'd just go across the road to the office and see if we could rent anything.
Uh-huh.
So I got a condo wit... |
and we had one of those little pop up tents, which is really nice because it kind of gets you off the ground.
But it seemed like it rained every weekend for about a the year we were really into camping.
You mean that you put on a truck or what?
No.
It's a little trailer you pull behind your car
and, uh, you know, you,... |
And what exactly are they going to do?
Oh, they turn them over to somebody
and they're going to, I guess they're going to try to teach computers how to recognize voices and search for specific words and stuff.
So any voice, no matter what the speech pattern or the dialect or anything.
Right.
Yeah.
Um. I wonder if thes... |
Well, I guess that's it for camping, uh
I guess so unless you want to talk about stakes.
What size stakes to put in
You need metal instead of plastic.
Yeah.
And you make sure that you keep up with them for the next time.
Yeah.
We got one of those kind that have got the,
oh what is it?
They're plastic
and they've got th... |
they pop up pretty fast.
Yeah.
Have you ever camped on sand?
Um, no.
That can be a mess.
We camped at the beach one time
and that was sort of miserable.
You just
everywhere you went there was sand.
You couldn't,
even when you're eating,
it, it was in your bed
I've done it in a shelter.
Uh-huh.
It was in Padre Island an... |
Well, it's good talking to you.
Uh-huh.
Bye.
Bye.
Get us going.
Okay.
Are, are you at T I Austin
or,
Well, I left T I in January
but I signed up for this before I did.
Oh, that's great.
No,
uh, uh, my daughter has talked to, my daughter up here with us,
I have another one,
and she's talked to students, uh,
so I guess t... |
So I guess,
Oh, yeah.
All right.
we're on finances,
have you, have you retired
or, uh,
Oh, no,
no,
no,
no
Oh.
Actually I left T I, um, had basically set my sights to leave T I when they announced there would be no salary increases in ninety-one, because I, I definitely need to make a little more money,
Oh, yeah.
and, u... |
Uh, I've been with T I,
I'm just going to be fifteen years this year
and, and that's a tough thing, uh, the salary thing.
T I doesn't quite always do it right.
Well, what about our, our, our financial budget.
Well, you, you should have a lot of information on a budget, then, if you're, uh,
I wish I did.
I, I hope you'r... |
I do have a long-term budget
I got a daughter in college and one going to be in college
so that, I've been thinking about that for quite a while.
Now monthly, no.
I'll tell you a funny story about budgeting,
and I've been married twenty-six years
and I did, you know, that the macho thing,
the man always did the bills f... |
How about your,
She does it all now for about ten years,
and I don't even,
she complains to me about it,
she threatens me to give it back to me,
and I said, I've been a happy man since I haven't, fooled with that checkbook, you know
Oh.
So I know it's a big pain to try to do that.
It really is.
It, it really is.
You kn... |
When I, when I was first divorced, I had, um, I sat down and budgeted
and I had outgo that was much higher than what I had coming in.
Yes,
I think, uh, that that is a tough, uh,
we all,
seems to seems to be that way.
I tried to hang onto a house that was way too expensive for me,
and, and so now that I've gotten, you k... |
Sometimes I have.
Listen to Bruce Williams, uh, for financial advice.
Uh-huh.
He's on, oh,
I don't know what he's going to be in Austin.
He's on five seventy here.
oh,
he's nationally famous.
He's a college graduate type guy.
He's been in all,
he's an entrepreneur
and he gives very practical financial advice about cars... |
And I'd listen to talk shows for everything, for gardening and everything, just when I'm doing chores,
and, uh, he gives a wealth of information, very practical stuff
You've learned a lot.
and, and he will help you avoid a lot of little things, uh, financially.
Well, that's, that's good to know how,
Yeah,
there, there'... |
Sure, go ahead.
I'll be right back.
Sure.
in Thank you.
I think we might have just screwed up the computer
but we'll find out.
Oh, no,
yeah,
right ,
they give us ten minutes, uh.
Oh.
Uh, the only advice I give you on college would be, there's a lot of scholarship money out there.
My daughter got a little bit, not much,... |
Uh, you get a president's award if you're, you're in, in high school doing
this up by, here in Arlington. Uh,
there's a lot of,
and, of course, you, if you, you score high on the S A T, you can get, you know, two thousand a year, you know, or more.
Uh-huh.
Wow.
You can get yearly money as long as you keep up your grade... |
The year that they graduate, you know, before, though, you know, while they're graduating , there's all kinds of little bitty money that little clubs will give away, churches and everything,
and they don't even have a dozen applicants because, uh, uh, the kids are going off after the big money.
Uh-huh.
Uh, of course, y... |
Uh, my job,
there were three managers jobs that were just dissolved
and so they put me on nights.
I, I call this my recession job.
Oh, goodness.
And I'm working nights just kind of covering, uh, shutdown equipment and everything, and just being available, here.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I don't mind.
Uh, it beats being laid off ... |
and, and I've, I went to T I just right at the time that, uh, my marriage was ending.
I had been a, a stay at home mom
and, and I, I was very fortunate in starting,
Uh-huh.
and I really enjoyed it while I was at T I,
but, you know, the cutbacks were really getting to be rather frightening
and I had less than five years... |
Another clue for you for college money.
Okay.
Go to work for U T.
Uh, we have a friend who works, who is a secretary for T C U, you know, up here?
Yes.
They give you scholarship, a hundred percent, if you're, if you work for T C U.
They do?
Yes.
So check that one out, you know.
I'm going to check that.
I've got, I've g... |
And her, her mother went over there just for that ...
Well Brent, I've been, um, I kind of gave up my career about three years ago to stay home with my children because I thought, uh, if it, it's only going to be another year until the youngest is in school.
Right.
And I thought it was a good sacrifice to make, because... |
Uh-huh.
You must be a .
Yes.
So am I.
Oh, you are?
Yes,
what a coincidence.
Yes
and,
Yeah,
I know what family home evening's all about.
So you do that
and, right, and then we try to do a family activity on Saturday, usually in the morning.
Uh-huh.
Right,
and then the family home evening, too.
Right,
and then, you know,... |
Well, that's good.
Um, how many children do you have?
I have two.
Two?
Uh-huh.
I have a girl and a boy,
and the boy's five,
he's in kindergarten,
and the girl is four.
She'll be in kindergarten next year.
Uh-huh.
I have two daughters.
Uh-huh.
My oldest is, uh, four
and my youngest is about to turn three.
Two girls.
And... |
Then we decided to have kids.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, she, she got pregnant
and then we decided she would stay home with the kids.
We would make that sacrifice.
It is a financial sacrifice to make because we go from two incomes down to one.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, we made that decision
and, uh, so after she had the first baby, she s... |
Uh-huh.
But everybody else works
and they drop their kids off at day-care and, and leave them
and, I don't know, I just don't want, I just don't want strangers raising my children.
Well, no,
and it's, it's just not, um, it's not as stable for the kids,
Right.
and they, everybody decided to come over and talk to me righ... |
and that's, that's pretty good quality time, with them,
Right.
and, um, but it's hard for him on Saturdays.
He, he wants, Right, he wants to run out and get things done,
With all the yard work and things like that.
and so, um, I try to say, well, why don't you go fly kites
or why don't you do something.
Uh-huh.
And if ... |
Uh-huh.
and they liked that.
And then on the way home we drove by the local high school
and there happened to be an F A, F A A, Future F A, Future Farmers of America, F F A going on there,
Yes.
and they had all kinds of pigs and horses and goats and sheep and everything, you know, all out in this, in the, in this schoo... |
and, um, but now, you know, people don't, they don't support each other that way.
Right.
Right.
Oh, definitely motherhood is devalued in this society.
If you're, stay at home and you're a mother, it's like what a waste. People think, you know, you should be fulfilling yourself
Uh-huh.
and, and a mother isn't an importa... |
It's not to say that some day you won't go back to work.
My mother's a school teacher
and when, when we started, uh, having kids, she had to work for a little while,
but then she just started substituting.
Uh-huh.
So she would just substitute once or twice a week, you know, just for that little extra money when we were... |
Yeah.
and, and, in spite of,
Yeah,
yeah,
you, it's, it's hard sometimes at work because, you know, people say, oh, we're taking a cruise,
we're going here,
we're going there, you know because they have a lot more money.
Uh-huh.
And a lot of them decide just not to have children.
Yes.
It's, it's amazing, they either hav... |
the guilt feelings, she can't deal with with it anymore
Yeah.
so,
Well, it is, the hardest thing I've ever done, as much as you'd go out
You know,
and,
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
my wife, uh, likes staying home.
Uh-huh.
Uh, she works at home some, though.
Uh-huh.
The place she works with, worked with before, um, worked out an arran... |
but, uh, the money part of it is not as rewarding, obviously,
but there's different rewards, you know, different kinds of rewards.
No.
Yeah,
I think so.
I think it's an investment in your future, even if it's purely not, not religious.
You can at least say that it's important to our country, that our family unit stays ... |
like it, how was it, maybe ten, twenty, thirty years ago as opposed to what it is today
Uh-huh.
how we're living socially in comparison to maybe from that time period from ten, twenty, or whatever you remember it to be.
I think, um, well, I guess it would be like your generation compared to my generation.
I think your ... |
To me, also, our nuclear family is not the same because more people are living together that aren't married
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
uh, I don't, I don't know if, uh,
can't make any judgments of that nature,
but, uh, I don't really want to either because I have no problems about it either way
Uh-huh.
and, um, kids are, I, I sup... |
Yeah.
Uh, in fact, uh, there was one lady in this area,
she was caught going to work and leaving her daughter in her car all day.
Oh my gosh, just a baby.
Not a baby, she was old enough to, uh,
I would say she was five to eight years old somewhere along that range,
Oh my gosh.
but that's just an extreme example.
Uh-huh... |
um, I could agree with that, because used to conservatism was inherent at a much younger age,
Uh-huh,
yeah,
because I think we're given more now, whereas you had to work for everything,
and kids nowadays are just given so much that they really don't have to work,
and, you know, and they, they don't have any intent to g... |
I don't know, because I know I don't watch, while I'm up here at school, I don't watch hardly any T V.
Like Thursday night I like to sit down and watch a few shows,
but I,
Do you watch L A LAW?
No,
I don't watch that
I used to,
but I don't any more.
I like that.
But, all,
I mean there are, even though there's a few up ... |
They're either hitting the books or something else,
I don't know what,
but, I know, oh, well, I guess, they have their crowds, like during the soap operas, you know, like in between classes or something
Uh-huh.
but I can't say that there's really that many people that like sit in front of the T V all day.
Well, that's ... |
but my parents really didn't allow us to watch that much T V,
so I don't know.
I agree with your parents, because, uh, T V kind of ruined me,
because that's that's all that we had
Uh-huh.
well, not really,
but, I mean, it's, uh, for the top medium of entertainment.
Yeah,
well, we watch a lot of, I guess we watched a lo... |
Uh-huh.
Oh. Is there anything else?
Um.
Um.
What about in our work ethics?
Work ethics, oh,
I,
It's it's maybe getting better. Um, a little,
of course, we're having to weather through the savings and loans all the other scandalous items that, well, the greed that overwhelmed us in the eighties
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and, uh, ... |
I'm from Maryland
and I'm in California visiting right now.
Hi, Judy.
This is Norma,
and I live in Virginia
Oh, okay.
We got a great topic
I know.
I'm sitting here going oh, dear
Should we give it a try?
I guess we might as well
Okay
Okay.
Okay.
Well, um, so
Let you start
So, so what changes have you seen?
What changes... |
but, uh, in my lifetime the biggest is in more women working, definitely.
Well, actually, that's what I was thinking too.
Yeah.
And, um, you know, just to jump ahead a little bit
but then we can back up.
Is it, perhaps, woman in politics is for the future.
For the well, yeah.
Because I don't see that really yet in po... |
And now I'm retired.
Oh, you,
That's the best status.
That's right.
Yes, um,
I don't, I see, um,
and,
Which do you work in, excuse me?
A government.
A government.
And I work in academia before.
Uh-huh.
And, um, actually there's one, um, woman in our, I don't know what you'd call it, uh, institute who is a manager
and, ... |
Uh-huh.
And I think that's sort of unfortunate, because it doesn't, it doesn't really help the cause in the long run
Right.
But, um, you know, I don't know.
And, and teaching I still see that that's where most of the woman are.
In teaching.
In teaching.
And, you know, and it's always been that way.
But not at the coll... |
Well, they did have one woman dean
but, and I guess she, she probably did very well
but that's the minority.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Um, and do you think it's because women aren't qualified or, or just don't, or don't want the job or just aren't hired for the jobs.
None of the above
I think they are extremely well qualified.
U... |
but, you know, I say that
but yet I know too.
Quite an,
well, I think there are more than there used to be.
Yeah,
I'm sure there are, yeah.
But they may not go into teaching,
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
I mean, the two that I know obviously are not in teaching
but, um, it's, I suppose in a since I was surprised when they told me th... |
But, um, yeah,
it's a,
Well, I met one one day that, uh, had just joined the faculty in agricultural engineering
and that really surprised me.
Oh, that's interesting,
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I mean, I, I suppose that, that it's difficult to really say why because, uh, you know, there, there probably are a limited number of... |
Uh-huh.
so why spend your time getting qualified.
That's right.
It's a, it's a rough It's a rough, a rough situation.
Um, and I guess what I, what, amazes me is the number of men who are willing to stay home with the kids
or and, in our case we actually have one father who works part-time, a six, hour day so that he c... |
Uh-huh.
And, uh, but it's unusual.
Uh, I know one, uh, gal
that's, she's a C P A,
and her husband is a house husband.
Uh-huh.
Yeah
I,
And then they had a child
and he, he was still the house husband.
He wasn't, going to,
Oh, he was, even before they had children.
Uh-huh.
Even before that,
right.
Oh, now that, that re... |
I don't know how, she's moved away. I don't know how it is now
but I know, uh, we're, we all went out one evening
and after work and, uh, she was, there was an underlying note she was perturbed about it.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
I mean I think that would be, it would, it would strike one as strange if there's no reason for somebo... |
it would, it wouldn't have been a doubter .
Uh-huh.
That's true.
Yeah.
Oh, gee.
I guess we can't win
Huh-uh.
Oh.
Because if, yeah, if, if somebody does if and breaks tradition you're surprised.
But if
That's right
Oh, dear.
So, so,
I think maybe more men would like to be if they weren't put down so badly
If they could ... |
No,
I didn't.
It's, um, one of those things that, you know, seems to happen.
How do you feel your career has gone?
I don't, I don't feel for the most part that I've been discriminated against.
You don't.
That's good.
No.
I was a department chairman.
I, but I don't like administration.
Oh.
So then I'm, uh, uh, probably ... |
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I would,
The promotion, promotions came
but there there comparable pay for the responsibility.
Uh,
And I was told you don't need as much pay as I have because your children are older than my children,
or your husband has a good job
and
Oh, jeez.
Yeah,
actually in a since I suppose, when I was hired in... |
and, uh, I just sort of ignore the administrative, part of it since I didn't like it when, when I had to do it.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
So I, I figure, you know, nobody must, uh, nobody must like it.
It must be a rotten job for everybody
But I know some people thrive on it
Oh, gee.
Well, since I don't have a whole lot more t... |
well being in, in Baltimore see,
Maryland is, um, is sort of, um, is as, as a hub of liberalism you know, compared to the country, uh,
you know, very, uh, in, in many ways, uh, very liberal
very somewhat to New England
though Pennsylvania and New York, uh, I, aren't actually as liberal,
Maryland is a very liberal, uh,... |
It's really, um, this has opened my eyes to thinking, you know,
at one time I just sat here and thought, well, how can anybody believe that
because I'd really never met people that did,
and now, I talk to people that do.
So that's, it's really interesting.
Well, it's very true,
now I'm a, uh, New Yorker by birth.
Uh-hu... |
I mean they they I believe if I'm correct I believe they permitted their carrying concealed weapons.
Uh-huh.
But they uh quickly did away with it.
Uh.
Yeah.
I think in the next session they they uh modified it
but it's still legal to own or possess weapons in uh uh Florida.
Yeah
well you can possess 'em here too
but Th... |
and next thing you know somebody's trying to take more.
Yeah
that's true
that's very true
That's and that's the way I guess most of the um the political organizations work you know
the same I know the abortion issue with right to life and right to choose
Yeah.
and and both of them are both want the extent of extremes s... |
Huh.
It's only because they make a big stink over it.
But I I guess actually I believe that if somebody wants to burn the flag I guess that's their opportunity
They're they're they're right in the sense of freedom of speech
But I would never
Well now wait a minute there
Yeah.
you just said it.
It's their right by freed... |
uh
Now uh Well I I still go back to ...
Unless the burn unless the actual fire hinders somebody's health and well-being you know
but I I think that's I guess that's I that's my opinion
Yeah
I guess you feel differently.
Then would you condone the burning of the capitol building?
Uh, no
but I think that's that's uh it's... |
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Well that's that's true
Now I am I am adamantly against that.
Yeah
But I think I I
Yeah
I I I guess the idea you know they always keep saying like the framers.
Um. there uh one of the Republican the appointees for the the judicial bench
and they always talk about they feel that this person believes ... |
and and so that as a freedom of expression and speech and whatever I I think that that's viable.
Um as long as it's your flag and and you've made your your point. I think.
Yeah
Because, realistically, like for you for you you don't think it's right
No.
And I would never do it.
I I love this country too much,
and that s... |
Ok, you're you're that's fine up to there except that uh, what that flag symbolizes is uh uh is this country,
Uh huh.
and I used to know as a Boy Scout
but all I remember was the red in the flag represented the blood that was shed to to create this country, and to maintain it.
Yeah.
And, to me that's uh uh black eye to... |
I don't know anybody that actually supports abortion,
but they would vote pro choice.
Uh
Uh-huh.
because you know That's just a disgusting thing you know
somebody
an abortion means it's somebody's in trouble and that it's an awful thing, you know
Well I think it should be permitted under certain
but
Yeah.
but it that's... |
No,
no
I think the um
sometimes I guess
what did I read recently
the um the uh Christian uh point is is always the point of well it's at conception
but then um a friend of mine's a doctor and argues with others that conception is a biblical term.
And there's no concept of conception in medicine or biology.
Huh.
so then... |
Uh I think that uh you know I I just read something I think in TIME magazine uh about um protest
Okay.
Um, I think that in this day and age everyone needs to have some sort of exposure to community service
because it, it seems like
and I'm, I'm thinking of the of community of people that are in jail now,
I think that m... |
Uh-huh.
I think that they would benefit also in doing community service so that they can see
and I'm, I'm speaking about people that are like born rich,
Yeah.
and that's all they know,
Yeah.
and I'm thinking that community service would help them, uh, just get a feel of what else is out there, how other people are livi... |
and he said that people in the west,
he said since being there and I guess he's been there about six months,
Uh-huh.
he said that his whole idea of what's important has changed,
Um.
and he said that people have no idea, he said, of, of what human sacrifice is, you know,
since being there he's, he's learned to, what it ... |
and I, I think that that, you know,
this, on the same note being
he was exposed to that
and maybe he wasn't before,
Right.
and now he sees,
Exactly.
and I think that anybody that works in the, in some kind of service or for the community or something, they can see, you know.
Uh-huh.
You don't see what, you don't, you c... |
and I've seen so many, uh, extraordinary things on T V, that people have done working in the Peace Corps and how, you know, uh, the people of the community they worked in is so much better,
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
it's like one person can make a difference,
Right.
and I, I really believe that they can in something like... |
I would love to help somebody, you know,
Yeah.
but I just, I can't bring myself to trust this, this company who is trying to do this or whatever it is, you know,
Right.
Uh-huh.
just because people or so, I don't know, just today people are just so money hungry, that I think they would do anything,
I know.
It's true,
it... |
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
but if they just get more, uh, unto themselves kind of,
More self-centered, uh-huh.
right
and, and it's not the sharing of, uh, a neighbor to a neighbor
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and we would go out and not even lock our doors and not even worry about it.
Uh-huh.
But you can't do that today.
But today, I mean, yo... |
you leave your car running, you know,
Yeah.
and this was only, uh,
well I guess it has been awhile,
it's been almost ten years since I moved here.
Yeah.
And it's amazing now how much it's changed.
I mean I don't go out I don't go, outside at night, you know.
In Dallas I,
I was going to say
cause I, I heard I, in fact ... |
and they said, uh, no,
there's nowhere that you can go that you would have to be afraid.
Uh-huh.
They said to her that even if she left her purse on the subway okay, that she would have that purse returned to her, this is how confident they were, okay, with nothing missing
Uh-huh.
Wow.
Wow.
okay,
this is a foreign coun... |
and that's where she was from.
Uh-huh.
That is sad.
She said even choosing her apartment she had to be so careful because of being a woman alone,
Yeah,
yeah.
That's, a big, that's a big thing with me.
You know she had,
there are certain.
I live in a one bedroom,
I'm single,
Uh-huh.
and I've, I could live in an apartme... |
Yeah.
and I pay, I'm paying probably the hundred or hundred fifty dollars more than I would be paying somewhere else
but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night
Yeah.
and that to me is worth the extra money for me to be, you know,
Yeah.
I feel very safe where I am, you know,
instead of,
And that, that's why I think if peo... |
but nowadays, they don't do that anymore.
Huh-uh.
It's not a, a thing a,
a lot of young men don't even, uh, have the desire to go into the service. Or to, uh, you know, do something for someone else.
Yeah,
they don't even consider it.
Uh-huh.
And I don't know
I attributed I think, a lot of that to women working. You k... |
That's right.
Yeah.
And the thing is,
like I think a man can afford to support a woman,
but the woman affords the luxuries.
Uh-huh.
In, in other words like anyone can live, on a certain income no matter what it is,
Uh-huh.
Right.
you have to, so to speak. Okay?
Right.
It, it's what's important to you.
Uh-huh.
Now a fam... |
Uh-huh.
it's, it's the most beautiful thing that happens between a mother and a child. The first, like say, six, years of life.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
So much, happens in that period of time,
When I call,
Uh-huh.
and I mean once the child's in school if you had a job from say nine to three, big deal,
Uh-huh.
I mean they, the... |
To,
he called in to get somebody on the line,
it took him about half an hour to find somebody.
That's what this was
yeah,
well, let me go a head and push one
okay?
Okay.
Okay.
Well, basically I like comedy shows Uh, MURPHY BROWN, uh, DESIGNING WOMEN .
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah
what do you like?
Well we don't have a T V,
I me... |
and we decided well, for the first year we, we won't get a T V
so I mean I'm totally out of it as far, as T V goes.
That's okay
we'll been married eleven years
and, um, we went through that after about five years of marriage,
my old T V that I had from college when we got married finally went out
and we went, we made ... |
you're working,
you're at school.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know T V shows,
what can I tell you, um,
basically junk that's on television
Yeah.
That's my opinion
yeah,
um, I like things like I just mentioned,
have you ever seen MURPHY BROWN, or anything like that?
I don't think so
You don't think so,
oh, that's the one with C... |
Right,
nobody does yeah, then,
uh-huh.
I know.
I mean I did watch T V
it was soaps and M T V cause the girls I lived with never changed the channels .
And the, uh,
well I don't,
you're probably at least ten years younger then I am
but I could tell you in school that, uh, the only thing that ever saw in the dorm was, uh... |
they, you know,
about the only other kinds of things I like, um,
I like to watch a lot of news, um,
don't you miss that with not having a television so far?
Um.
How long has it been since you've had one?
Well, about, almost a year.
Oh my God
Yeah.
Yeah,
you've got about another six months
and then you'll get one
Well, ... |
Yeah.
Yeah,
my husband is an only child too
and he did miss it
that's kind of why we got back after eighteen months,
That's funny.
and I'm trying to think about the only other show I watch.
I've seen CHEERS probably five times
and I've seen COSBY SHOW probably ten times.
Yeah,
I like COSBY,
L A LAW is probably,
I've se... |
I've actually been to that bar in Boston
it's a nice, you know, it's a pretty funny show.
Oh, you have?
Yeah.
Yeah,
I've heard it's pretty cool.
It's just a, you know, over priced downtown, Boston yuppie, you know, tourist attraction.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think what else is on television,
I know it's like.
I wat... |
I watch pro football
but I like the N B A play-offs, back when like the Pistons were in them
Yeah.
and now,
where are you calling from?
Uh, Sherman, Texas.
Sherman, Texas, oh,
Where are you from?
I'm in Dallas
I was just saying where am I calling you from, you know,
well then I don't know if you like the, the Maverick... |
My voice you mean?
Yeah.
Oh, no,
that's just because I've moved around
and, uh, I'm originally from Pennsylvania,
Oh.
so.
I was going to say.
Cause I wondered if you really, you know, if had any teams you like watching from up north or something.
Uh, actually I'm a big Chicago Bears' fan.
Yeah.
Real big
and, uh, um, I... |
Yeah,
there you go,
and then and, um, I'm trying to think what else I like to watch on television sports wise.
I like, I like tennis
I watch, uh, huh.
so I mean I'm not, I haven't played in years
but, um, I just like to watch, you know, two players really get, go at it,
Yeah.
Yeah.
It gets boring after a while
but I... |
is
I don't know
she's not as good as she use to be
but,
Maybe cause she got chubby again or something,
her disposition's gone downhill.
Was she, was her show big when you where in school since you haven't been out that long?
Was what?
Was her show big when you where in college, since you, haven't been that long?
Oh, y... |
and then man she's really porked out again I guess
but,
Gee, I know
isn't that terrible.
Yeah.
I know
I guess with that money who cares
I don't know.
I'd eat too.
Let's see what else is on television.
Oh, if you don't have a V C R we just got one after nine years don't even spend your money on it.
Really.
Yeah,
cause, ... |
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