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I had wondered sometimes, I knew that there was a lot of, a lot of effort and a lot of work went into a lot of that, and I just wondered if, if it lasted, and if it took, you know, like, uh, Uh-huh Yeah, I've, you know, some of the programs I would have concern about like, um, the language teaching, you know, I mean, w...
So, uh, describe your family budget. Well, I've, uh, for a lot of years I, I've pretty much flied without one, and, uh, just recently, uh, we, we set up a budget, and, and we're trying to stick to it. We just bought a new house. So we've got everything, you know, pretty much we know what our, uh, our fixed expenses are...
sir. And you know how much you're going to drive every week? Well, I used to, um, I used to know, uh, fairly close to exactly how many miles I drove, because I, I was very convenient, I lived, uh, nine tenths of a mile from work. Huh. So, so, it was, you know, two miles a day to and from work. So it kind of cut my tran...
I mean, uh, I remember, I have five children total. I have three left in the house. Yeah. And I can remember years ago, when school would start, and I'd go buy all five kids, you know, shoes, and I could get out of the, out of the shoe store without spending more than thirty-five dollars. Nowadays, thirty-five dollars ...
Uh-huh. And we have the things that are extras. But it seems that by and large the extras just don't exist. Yeah. And, well, you know, the auto budget, car payment sucks a hell of a lot of it dry. Uh-huh. And insurance, is insurance bad there? Um, I've got, uh, two older cars. There both, one's a seventy-seven and one'...
That's not bad, four hundred and something a year. That's, that's, It's actually three hundred and forty for each one of the cars. That's cheaper than we pay. Yeah, I was down in Texas for two years, and I was paying unbelievable rates for both car insurance and for home insurance. Um, Well, here in Colorado it's even ...
They say if nobody's injured, you all exchange names and take it up with your insurance company. God. Well, if you, I don't know how familiar you are with Maryland, but, uh, Not at all. especially, the center part of Maryland where I Ninety-Five runs through it is really heavily populated. There's just so many people a...
Uh, right here in Maryland. Huh, so you just basically went home when you had a chance. Yeah, my family, uh, didn't like Texas, and I had a chance to, uh, transfer up. T I bought a company about seven months after I moved to Texas, right here in . That's nice. So I got an opportunity to transfer back, and I took it. Go...
I lived in Plano, and I don't know if you're familiar with Plano Yeah. but Plano, maybe five percent of the Plano actually were from Texas. Everybody else was an import. Well, I'm a West Texan. Uh-huh. Lubbock, Midland Odessa Amarillo, Dumas, Panhandle. Yes. Yeah. A different world from down there. Yeah. So, uh, Colora...
Yeah, yeah, they have a state income tax in Maryland. But I noticed when I was in the, in the, in Texas, they didn't have a state income tax, but they sure nailed you on those darn county taxes and, school taxes and property taxes, Yeah, yeah. Property taxes and, Oh my God, ate you alive. Yeah, well, Colorado, you know...
there's, uh, some good books that I've read, um, that you might be interested in. Uh Oh yeah? Charles D. Gibbons is the guy who runs some ads on light night T V and he's got seminars you can go to, and they try to hook you into his organization, which costs about four hundred bucks. But he's got a couple of books out. ...
the man, uh, has a lot of good ideas, some of them I already knew about, some of them I had already practiced. But I suggest it to anyone who wants to be better off financially to read it because, uh, And that includes everyone at T I. Yes, I'm one of the ones that had my salary frozen for ninety-one. Yes. Well, even, ...
I was a W F for several years, and it just never seems to improve. It, and it doesn't seem to get much better for the exempts either, unless you're twenty-eight or above. Yeah, yeah. It's really a shame. Well, I, I've, this company that they bought, they ended up buying a very high payroll. Oh. And, uh, the, you know, ...
Well, no. What we did was wind up using, and you just go, you just go down and, and you get out the, the, so many inches and, and we just marked a little bit less than that, uh, which is somewhat awkward but had it been millimeters, you could have done. I think what's interesting, the way engineering people do is they,...
I, I have a Suzuki motorcycle and, and I've had motorcycles, Japanese motorcycles for years and years and the metric system comes easy to me. But my ... I think it's interesting you you know, when you go out there and you're looking for a wrench and you want the next size larger. I've got, I inherited some, some stuff ...
I mean obviously you can look at it and say well, anyway. I think the other thing that's interesting is that a lot of our stuff is already changed that we haven't, I don't know, do you, do you drink adult beverages? Yeah, I drink beer. have you noticed that, um, that a lot of the, um, a lot of ... Yeah, whiskey is in l...
And, and they had quarts at the same time though. Yeah. But the idea was, is that by, with five fifths, um, they could, uh, they could, uh, they could sell five and, and, um, it was simply a ploy to, to get people, you know to buy, to buy more for, Yeah. it's, uh, I find that interesting. It's ... But it's like, you kn...
We, we do, uh, um, well we use a one mill bond wire or one point five mill bond wire on on semiconductor devices. Right. And well, what's a mill and ... Yeah, yeah. But what really annoys me is the way we, in the United States, have been converting to metric. We have a eighty-nine Chevy Blazer. And before that we had a...
Yeah, yeah. It was, it was annoying. One, one half of the starter you know, three bolts on the starter and two of them were American and one of them was metric. Now that's strange. And, uh, you go from the, uh, water pump up to the radiator and on the water pump, it was all metric. And, and on, you know, the factory fi...
and, and you measure, you know, you mic it to see if it's accurate and. Right. It's it's not a problem either way. No. Like I said, my only complaint is where they mixed them on the same car. Yeah. And you go to look at it and you don't know which set to reach in, American or metric. Yeah. and, and, you're never quite ...
Oh, I think, I don't think so. I, I think that, uh, I think they've now just taken the attitude that, well, if it happens, if it, because it, there a lot of things that, that, uh, um, like sports, you know. It's a hundred meter. Oh, absolutely. And, uh, uh, but automobile races if it, I don't think they'd ever, it's st...
It had, has, uh, gold plated, uh, header. And, and they're trying to think of what's a Troy ounce. Yeah. There's twelve troy ounces to the pound. Yeah. Now that makes, you know. Yeah. And, and is that going to change too? Well, I mean, and, and then there's a metric ton and then there's a ton. But what's a metric ton? ...
milliliter. It's all metric all ready. Yeah. And, and so, um, but, but when you go to order a drink, um, you know. say, they, they, I don't know, it's uh ... And what will a shot be? Will a shot be an ounce? I don't know. And, and, but, you know, when you go to the store and, and you're trying to figure, you know, well...
a machinist has a huge number of dollars invested in tooling. Personal tools to be able to do his job. Yeah. But, but are, are the tools that, uh, if you're cutting, are you talking about cutting equipment or tools for for set up? Uh, tools for set up and for measurement. Uh, you got to have a one tenth indicator, it's...
Yes. Real, real fast. Edge finders and ... But I was thinking about though that, that when you actually get to the milling equipment though, when it starts turning ... Well, I know, because, okay. Your end mills will be measured in inches or fractions of inches. Yeah. You know. But you, when you, when you simply drilli...
Well and thread, Uh, I don't go to the movies a whole lot, but, uh, I went two or three weeks ago for the first time in a long time and saw DANCES WITH WOLVES, which turned out to be an extremely good movie. I haven't seen that yet. I, I, I hear, we, a whole bunch of us were going to go see it. It's playing at school a...
it's just, uh, just amazing, amazing picture. Yeah, I've heard it, it, it's not one for the videos. No, it's one I think, but, you know, every now and then you find one that you say, yeah, this is my favorite movie. Well, this is the one for me this time. Really. Yeah. What have you been to lately? Um, let's see. Well,...
Yeah, I wasn't, I mean, I've seen his other movies, and I just think he's pretty good. Yeah. But, uh, this movie, I'm convinced now he can act. Uh-huh. How's his karate? Oh, his, his, his karate is pretty good. I think in this one it wasn't so good. I generally, um, movies like that scare me, though. I'd be just fine w...
Yeah, yeah, well, that, that was number one for the week actually, too, so, so it was a little bit, uh, I was thinking, Wow, people must be into crime movies again. But, but in the middle of that conversation we sort or picked an, um, an interesting point. Last year's number one movie for the year was GHOSTS. Is that r...
Oh, Patrick Swayze? Yeah, and I especially like him. Yeah, he's very good. He's a really good guy. Other than that, DANCES WITH WOLVES seems like to be the only thing I've seen in the past several months to have any, Really, I'm trying to think what else I've seen recently. What else have we seen recently. Oh, you know...
at first they told me. Yeah. And I thought, what a strange combination, Mel Brooks and Meryl Streep. That is a strange combination. Well, actually, it starred, that, that it's actually Albert Brooks, so it's lot better. Mel Brooks you probably know. Yeah. I know, so it, it was a strange combination. But it turned out t...
You know, they go and they decide if you can move up to the next level. Oh. I don't know if you've ever read Jonathan Livingston Seagull, but it's something like that. Yeah, years ago. They sort of move up to levels, and, and they have to decide whether or not they're good enough, and as it turns out, you know, they me...
and you have a, they have an attorney for, you know, attorney for you and attorney, a defense and a prosecution, and you know, the prosecutor's job is to make sure you don't move up a level, and the defense's job is to make sure that you, you do, you know. It's, uh, it's a neat little story actually. Yeah, it is. I was...
Is it supposed to be better? The other world, yeah. Sometimes I think we think it is. We like those things that way. Um, I'm, I'm sure that it seems like, it certainly would, would explain the preoccupation with , but I suspect it's always been a preoccupation with that sort of things. Well, it has. All the way through...
and she really liked it. That's, that's, that's probably one of those ones that, you know, it's on video now, I think. Yeah, it is. Probably, probably worth seeing on video. Actually we really enjoyed it, but it was also right along the same lines. I mean they, they would go ahead and kill themselves for three or four ...
and they didn't just sort of make it silly. It was, you know, it was done fairly well, I think. So. Actually, I actually enjoyed that as well. Yeah. I like it when they will do something and not get too silly. I've been disappointed in some movies that, they don't know how to end it, it seems like, so then they get cra...
Yeah. You know something must be wrong as far as, uh, not just the teaching techniques but just motivation, within, within the schools themselves. Yeah. Yeah, excuse me just a minute, uh, Uh-huh. I'm on the other line Karen. I'm sorry. Oh, it's okay. Okay. Uh, she, uh, yeah, well the, the results, I, I hear what you're...
I've seen that for years, yeah. Right, and, I know, uh, I work around, you know a lot of teachers and I I understand how, uh, supportive they are of their students and how excited they are, Uh-huh. but some how, I don't think the students are getting excited. Yeah, I've often wondered if it doesn't come back to the, th...
Progress, uh-huh. It's, uh, unfortunately probably what, maybe twenty-five or thirty percent of them do that. Yeah, not, not even that much probably. Well, that would be, be at the absolute most. Yeah uh-huh. And, uh, you know, those, those that, you know, come out, you know, fall out of the system, that are, are real ...
you start dating too early, you know, Uh-huh. just little things like that, that do start in the home, Yeah. that can, that plays a big part because you spend eight hours of your day, or more in school and so any other part of your life, that's going to definitely affect your school life, because you spend so much time...
and he is now in, in a program that's trying to get him out of high school because he, he fell back several years ago and he's going to, he, he will have gone to school five years. Yeah. Um, and the reason that he was doing so badly a couple of years ago was because his mother died, Uh-huh. and he was having to, uh, su...
right, survival becomes more of a priority than, than education, Uh-huh, uh-huh. and unfortunately, you know, there's, uh, there's and old joke about, uh, you know, education's wasted on the youth anyway. You don't, you don't really appreciate it until you're much older anyway. Right, exactly. I know when I went to sch...
And, uh, it's kind of these intervention programs. Now, a lot of people will get to looking at these and say hey that's socialism and that's communism, Right. and that's, you know, and then it gets political. Uh-huh. But, uh, boy. When people start talking about programs that help, for me, I don't care if it's socialis...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. Right. or they're never going to get anywhere. But yet, politically that is not a very popular view. Uh-huh. I'm sure that if you, you know, ran on a platform of, you know, we're going to find the kids that are having trouble at home and we're going to take them out of the home. Take them out. Yeah, you...
and then he goes home and, and, uh, you know, in the, in worst cases he's got parents either on drugs or, or something like that, Right. or they don't care. You know, mamma, guess what I did in school today, well who cares, you know. An a lot of it, a lot of the parents now are so young. True. You know, that they're, t...
I'm, its just the solutions that, you know, they're going to be in our political system, they're going to be on everyone's mind for quite a while, too long. I don't know if you've ever had too much to do with, uh, oh, especially Asian, Japanese families coming, here in Plano we've got, uh, quite a few. Uh-huh, uh-huh. ...
Right. But, uh, here again, you get back into a political thing, where, uh, Yeah there's, there's, right. There's definitely too much leeway as far as, Uh-huh. I mean, I've only been out of, I've been out of college only two years, Uh-huh. and you were saying that you don't appreciate education until you get out and I,...
I went to U T at Austin, uh-huh. Oh, oh, okay. I'm, uh, So, I mean all kinds of resources and, you know, just there, Yeah. and I'd give anything to have that right now in my, in my regular I mean you, you have everything given to you. I don't see why people wouldn't want that. I don't know, I, but then, if I was young,...
well that was a lot of fun, but, you know, I'm not sure that, that I took the greatest advantage of, you know, what, I went through there. Uh-huh. Right, yeah, I did a lot and I experienced a lot and I, I feel like I got a good college education but just when I got out I feel like I should have spent more time in the l...
What is your most recent, We just did that, too. You did that recently too, uh,? Yes. Does it make a big difference? Oh, yes we have brick on the outside and, uh, the colors that were there changed the, and the colors that we painted changed the entire look of the house. Huh-uh. Completely. That's neat isn't it. Yeah. ...
Um, we didn't have very much money and so we had to do it ourselves in kind of a slow process, but we learned how to do, uh, retile bathtubs and, uh, oh, just all kinds of things that are unusual. Huh-uh. So the other thing that we did was the roof of our house. Huh-uh. And, uh, we did that a different color also. Yeah...
As a matter of fact, one thing, I have a young son and one thing we did, was we had paneling on the inside of our, uh, front of our house, or the hall way of our house, rather, and we were repainting the, the front room in the hall there, and we took down that paneling and he helped me and, and, uh, he was, it was fun ...
Yeah. Exactly. Well, we have a lot that needs be done. We have, uh, uh, carpeting, and, and we did have a new, uh, floor put in our kitchen. And, um, I have my mother living with us and so she was in a room with a carpet and, of course, she's quite aged, she's ninety-three now, so that meant she had problems now and th...
Kind of depends on the quality of carpet, I suppose, Yeah. but, uh, in the case of the linoleum they have to rip up everything and, and fix the floor so it's, uh, I don't know, what ever, but they have to put stuff on the floor and it's, uh, kind of a process. Well, it sounds like you have some pretty good experiences ...
what do you do with your credit cards? Oh Well, my husband and I have gotten into some, some problems with credit cards. We don't handle them very well We, we tend to run them up to the maximum and then ask for more. Oh, jeez. They, they're, they're really bad for us. Um, matter of fact, we've gotten rid of all of our ...
and it really ended up getting us in some real serious trouble. Oh, sure. Um, because, see, the more credit cards you have, the more people offer them to you. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And the more you use them, the more they send them to you. But each of these had an annual fee also, right. Exactly. The American Express was pro...
I really resented the fact that they were charging me for cards, so I sent back all of mine, except the ones that were free. Uh-huh. And, um, then, then I also limited it to one of each, one MasterCard and one Visa, and here, most of the stores will accept those, and actually I then got a Discover card since they pay y...
So, I'm still paying on all these accounts, but my accounts are closed. Yeah. So, and I would prefer to keep it that way. Once we, once we're paid off um, I would prefer just to have one MasterCard and one Visa Uh-huh. and that's it. Yeah, yeah. Actually I pay off my cards every month. Only once in my life have I not p...
Uh-huh. but, but yeah, the, the thought of adding, you know, X percent to, to the price of what I buy, I just, I can't accept. Yeah, and I, and I think at this, at this point in time with the economy the way it is, I think that, um, it's going to get even worse. Um, I'm, I'm glad that we're starting to pay our debts of...
Yeah. that I just. Well, when you, when you're getting rid of the whole credit card cycle, and if you really get into the mind set, I got really good at juggling money and basically robbing Peter to pay Paul, and it was scary, because I was so good at it. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And I thought, this is not right. I mean, this h...
uh-huh. Uh-huh. I don't, I don't think that, well, when we buy on credit we just don't have a concept of how much money we're spending until the bill comes in. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And then all of a sudden you look at the bill and you go, Oh my gosh, I spent this much. But now, the fact that you still have two cards, are yo...
uh-huh Clothing, sales. Yeah. Sales I find are a pain. Yeah. I've, I've gotten, I've gotten a lot more away from, from credit cards, and I pay by check a lot more now. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Well, it sounds good, you know. Like I said, it sounds like you're, you've really got it under control. I, I admire you for having, havi...
I didn't like it at all. I was very uncomfortable. So, I can imagine. You know, and, and I mean, it was, I thought a lot, sixty dollars interest or something for, for just a couple of months, and I'm going jeez, that's outrageous, Yeah. but in, in, you know, retrospect it wasn't all that much, I mean a lot of people pa...
Uh-huh. and it's just incredible. But now did you use to not feel so badly because you could take it off your income tax? We've never been able to take it off our income tax. I'm, I'm fairly newly married. I've only been married less than two years Uh-huh. and before that, I never owned a home or anything, so I never h...
Yeah. I suspect that, you know, thinking about it and looking at my friends and the number of credit cards that they use and, you know, the amount that I know they buy, I guess probably a lot of them are in a similar situation, and, you know, just don't talk about it. Yeah. Most, most people don't like to talk about mo...
uh-huh. We're renting a house. Uh-huh. But, you know, right now with the way our credit card situation is, there's nobody in the world that's going to give us a mortgage on a house. Right, right. But, but, once I suppose you, you prove yourself by paying this off next year you'll be in very good shape. Yeah. Yeah. It's...
Uh-huh. And, uh, I am an avid gardener so I measure the rain in our rain gauge on a, on a regular basis. So I can, can avoid wasting money on watering. Oh, great, great. Uh-huh. And, uh, but it has been threatening to rain for the last couple of days, and it has not, really. Which is a bit of a disappointment. But it i...
We could still have a frost. Really, this late? Uh-huh. Could you have snow? Uh, probably not. But we have had, we have had a frost as late as, as in June. Oh, well, we do not have that problem Early June. So, but we have also had nice weather. An unusually, uh, nice Spring. It is almost like an early Summer for us. Oh...
Yeah. If it could just be spread out a little bit. Right. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. It has really been nice here, uh, we are supposed to have some rain this weekend, but I don't know if we'll get it or not. A lot of times in our area the weather forecast has missed us. The, the weather they forecast for our area seems to g...
We have quite a few farmers. We, we live out in the country. We are on a farm, but we are not a farming person Uh-huh. Uh, we have a garden. Uh-huh. But, uh, but we are not farmers. Huh. Well, you know there are some disadvantages to being down south. Uh-huh. And that is, it gets so hot that, you know, a lot of things ...
I know our aunt in California, they, they have really been rationed on their water. And it makes it real hard to have a yard or, uh, or anything like that, a their garden, their farms. Their farmers, I guess, are hurting because of that also. Yeah. Well, my parents are now in San Diego, and, and they've got pebbles in ...
and it makes a, a bit of a difference, too. Um, what is your humidity like? Oh, I don't know. I think our humidity is higher normally than what it is in Texas. I could be wrong. Uh, I do not know what, what it is percentage wise but I, I do not know for sure either. But it always seems well, it just felt different like...
Well, it could be. I know my brother's home has been flooded a couple of times, uh, Oh, does he live near the lake? Well, there is a lake not far but it is more run off from surrounding, you know, areas and that. Uh-huh. Uh. And, uh, he is just in an area where it is just low enough that it's, you know, it, it collects...
But we are, uh, we are high enough that our house itself we never, you know, have had any problem like that. Oh, well, that is fortunate. Yeah. It is an old farm house and, uh, we really like it here. Uh-huh. Well, I, I like it, I like it here. Uh, I, I grew up here. I have lived other places and, and, but I, I did gro...
Right. Right. That is the best time to go. Yeah. and usually it has been when we have gone, it has been nice. It has been hot, but it is, it is hot to me in the wintertime down there. Oh, sure. I mean You know But it is nice, it is a, it is really a nice area. I, I had a friend from England visit once at Christmas, and...
Well, yeah, basically I do, too. Yeah, it takes me about four and a half hours to do, to mow our grass. And I try to cover up when I do the lawn Well, I, that, that is really healthier, frankly. Yeah, well, I have had a little, a couple of problems and, uh, I decided it is not worth it. Uh-huh. That, I, I like to get t...
It, it just makes your skin more leathery. and I think that is why. It, uh, it, Exactly. yeah. So, I think it burns off the, I don't know the, the, the theory, the scientific principle. But it burns something off, the natural oils or something like that. Uh-huh. Well, the elasticity of your skin, the collagen or whatev...
I can't complain. We have really had really good weather of late. Good. And when it has rained, it it's been a good soaking rain and, uh, it has just been a really nice Spring. Well, that is great. It has been, it has been very nice here too. And I hope it continues because my parents are coming to visit this evening a...
And the same to you. And, so. Okay. Well, it was really nice talking to you. A pleasure. And, uh, good luck in your, this venture. It is, uh, like I said, it has been real interesting. So I hope you enjoy it as much as I have been enjoying it I am sure I will. In, in fact, if I had not been preparing for this, the out ...
Uh. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Okay, is, uh, that a sport you like to participate in? No. Actually I'm a spectator, and I'm a second hand spectator as a result of my first husband's, or my late husband's, interest in golf. Uh-huh. My husband likes golf also, he's, uh, I guess he'd be a fanatic if he thought he could get away wi...
but I am very good at watching it on television. Right. And he was really, uh, enthusiastic about keeping up with the tournaments. He could tell me exactly what day and what time of year and where the tournaments were going to be held, and what the nature of the hole was and, Oh, so he's really into it. Oh, yeah, he wa...
so you know, the competitor, and I became involved in following his career. Right And, uh, I know that, that my husband, Tom Kite was his fair haired boy. Oh. And he thought he was spectacular. I said, Whoa. I'm not going to, I'm not going to stay interested in him. So I decided Andy Bean was good competition Uh-huh. A...
but he's quite a character. Yeah. And there are some really, really wonderful people in the game of golf who do give wonderful role models. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. And I think it's critical, it's critical to have a good role model in any field, any sports. Yeah. I like to watch those skins games. Uh-huh. Do y...
yeah. And I know the whole point is to get it in that little bitty hole, but seems to me like if they made the hole bigger it'd be easier. Oh really I sometimes wonder why men like it so much because they get so frustrated and mad at themselves when they don't do well. Oh, I know. Oh, yeah. My husband and his buddies a...
He was pretty good, but as far as influencing young people, I think that that is, uh, that is one of the sports that you can carry into old age. You can't play football at fifty-five. Right. But it is a good healthy, wholesome lifestyle, uh, anything can be warped. Yeah. But I think that that is one of the sports that'...
that's absolutely right. And it's something that, Well, maybe that's what I'll do when I have time later on, Yeah, when you're too old to do anything else go play golf, Yeah yeah But it's, it's also something that husband and wife can participate in Uh-huh. or, you can both enjoy the same sport and participate in separ...
You bet, you get a lot of exercise that way. Go somewhere really nice, like Hawaii, and just look at the golf course. Uh-huh, well, I'll tell you what, if if they're not real good golfers, sometimes it is not fun to ride around and listen to their exclamations all day long. Oh, yeah. But my husband's pretty tolerant, s...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. So I guess he's real laid back about it. Uh-huh. He, he'll come home though, and he'll shoot when he was shooting in the hundreds, and he'll tell me what a great day he had, and about this great shot he made and everything . Uh-huh, well I shot in the hundreds, but I made this one good one Yeah, this on...
There's so many, Right, and then they want to play another course that's not, they're not a member of That's right. and other fees. That's right, that's right. It really is high. It can get very expensive, and I can imagine what kind of costs are involved if you're going to try to go pro, because you spend hours and ho...
And he said, well, fine, he said, we'll just take you over to the course, he lives near Brookhaven we'll just take you over to the course and get you some lessons and let you see if you like it. Uh-huh If you do, then we can go golf together. Uh-huh. Oh, whoa, great, I get to walk all around a little green field all da...
at least you're just you're competing against yourself, I guess, more than everybody else out there. It doesn't appear to be Uh-huh. I really, I, I haven't really acquired an interest in it, but I'm open to try anything, you know. Yeah that's, kind of the way I feel. The one thing that is also detrimental as far I'm co...
uh, we, we have a pretty nice recycling center, uh, in our city now and we take the newspapers and plastic and glass up there. They're open like two days a week and you can just take it up there and drop it off. Uh-huh. It's kind of fun. And everybody up there looks pleased with themselves when they're taking their stu...
We like to put our, just put our newspapers in a paper bag, you know, and then carry them up there that way. Uh-huh. And we have to bring the paper bags back every time. Because they won't take them. Yeah. Do you, uh, take your papers somewhere or does someone pick them up? We, we usually collect a, you know, collect a...
Uh-huh. And I know a lot of people it would, would solve the convenience problem if they had curbside pickup and some communities are trying to do that now. And I think that maybe if they only charged for the garbage that you did not sort and have set up for recycling, Right. they, they charged you by, by weight of how...
but then you don't pay any monthly fee or anything, so how ever many bags of garbage you throw away, that's how many you have to pay for. Oh, yeah that's about the same kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah that would be a real good idea. I'm trying to think if there's anything else I could think of. They are talking about going t...
I guess it just depends on how they manage it. Uh-huh. I don't know how much they get when they sell all that stuff. The center that they've got now where you take your stuff in I, I think that should be making some money. Since they just have to hire someone to man it a few hours a week. Yeah. And they sell, I guess t...
that's what we buy the most of, unless we're going on a trip or something where we want to, put the cans in a cooler Yeah. But, well that's all I can really think about for recycling. Okay. It was good talking to you. Okay. Uh, bye. All right, bye-bye. voice said what's that voice said, where were they There you go. Wh...
M C I what's that? M C I it's the long distance telephone company. Oh, now see I, I really don't have much trouble with, I just say no thank you and hang up. Uh-huh, well they they won't take a no for an answer here for some reason. They just keep calling back. I had a carpet service call up three times, all within in ...
Like the Census Bureau, United States Census Bureau. Oh yeah. That bothered me. Uh-huh. I didn't feel they had a right to know how many bedrooms were in my house even. Right. That I think is my invasion privacy because it's the government and I don't understand what their need to know is. Uh-huh. And I think that is my...
Right. No. And I'm not pushing something down their throat that, uh, I don't think is a good item anyway. Uh-huh. That I don't think I could do anyway. But I feel like, oh, movie stars, or sure, it's part of their, I guess they're portray being a movie star they get themselves in these rag sheets but, uh, I think they ...