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Huh. And so then I said, I'm going to move back up there to go to college. That's cool. He goes, okay. So he goes, but do it fast, so I did my undergraduate in two years. Oh, really? Awesome. Yeah. So, but it's, a, it's just, you know, oh, well, we've been talking for five minutes. That's cool. That's the only obligati...
nice talking to you. Yeah, you, too. Bye-bye. Bye. Hi, Kay. Hi. I, uh, was thinking about salaries and benefits and uh, was wondering what's the most important thing to you besides a salary in a job. Uh-huh. Well, um, I, we just recently graduated from Rice University, and, uh, we were going through a lot of job interv...
I don't ever want to have to worry about that. That's real important to me. Um, you know we have that, that Aetna Uh-huh. that's what we, the insurance that we have right now. Uh-huh. Us, too. When we were in Colorado, they had, um, a different type of H M O there that I really liked a lot. Uh-huh. It was, um, not that...
Uh-huh. That, those prescriptions can be very expensive. Oh, I know. We just went through that ourselves. We just, you know, are like fifty dollars for this series of antibiotics and things. Oh, I know, especially if you get, what is it, Seclor I think that that just about breaks the bank right there. Uh-huh. Yes. Yes,...
we have like the the dental insurance is separate. Is that what you mean? Right. I don't think it's the basic, I think it's the other one. The one that's like you get additional, they'll pay a little bit more I think for the different procedures. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. We just have the basic right now, and for most things it ...
and, let's see, besides insurance, other things that we looked at, um, well, my husband does not like to commute very far, Uh-huh. and, and we don't like him to be, you know, having to drive an hour to work or something No, we don't like that either So we kind of looked for where, where the, uh, his office would be loc...
and not only is it, you know, trouble to have to drive, but it takes time away from your home and your family when you're out driving. That's right. And, um, so, that was something that was important to us, and, because, like I say, we kind of felt deprived that he had been in school and been away from us for so long t...
But when, when could, uh, your salary increase Right. um, is there, was there somewhere to go. Yeah, that's, that's one of, I think, the hard things right now, I mean they're going through some tough times to say the least. Uh-huh. I know many of us are thankful that he still has a Yes, that we can make our mortgage pa...
But. But, we also were interested in, um, you know, being sure that he felt like he liked the people that he would be working with and that there would be some opportunity for friendships that way, so that you would feel happy going to work every day and Rather than thinking Oh, I really, I can't stand these people. Uh...
And being, when we were down in Houston, we were isolated, I mean, it's not that far, but, people would we didn't have anyone in town that was our family. Right. And although we had really good friends and we had church and school support and things, um, we were anxious to move close to family members, just because we ...
Yeah, and it is, I think it is important to, you know, want to be close to your family and, Yeah, and it's, it's hard, I mean, just for us to snatch a half hour like that is a special occasion for us. Uh-huh. So, um, Yeah, that's the same, way we felt. it's nice. It's nice that you can have your family close like that....
But anyway. Well, I, my children just ran out the door, so I need to go check on them Okay Well I've really enjoyed the conversation. Well, I have too. And, uh, nice to have met you, and you have a good day. Okay, you too. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Okay If you want to go first, go ahead. Oh, I think, I think that a woman's rol...
Uh-huh. Because if you look at most corporations, there isn't a woman, you know, that's on the board of directors, or that type of thing, they are mostly all men. Uh-huh. There may be a few, but very incidental. Yeah. And I really think that it will be a long time, probably, before we see that. In one sense, I'm an old...
and, well, there is twelve kids in my family, so my mom never could really work, you know, because she was kind of pregnant from day one. She never really had a chance to work. Yeah. She worked before she got married, but, uh, she, uh, she doesn't believe in, she's very old fashioned. She doesn't believe in the woman w...
because they don't have the family roots anymore. You know, I'm not saying that, that it's totally gone, but it's nothing like what it used to be. You know, in that sense. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, and also like my mom, my mom thinks, I mean she's kind of right with it, when both partners of the marriage work, she feels that...
Yeah. There is no need to have children if you don't want them. What do you think about that, do you think that, uh, what do you think about the women that are not having families because they want to continue their business? That's fine, that's, that's the freedom of choice. Uh-huh. And I agree with that, because anyo...
It's not like something that they really wanted. Like I had three children, and I mean I, I wanted every one of them. Uh-huh. I'm not sorry I had any of them, and I worked third shift for a good part of my life just so I would be home with them. Yeah. You know, I had to work, but I tried to make it as painless as possi...
Exactly. So we were, I felt I was losing my family. Uh-huh. And that's why I said that's it, I either have to quit or, you know, try something else, so I went on third shift. Uh-huh. And I worked that shift for eleven years. Oh, my. Yeah. Bless you Just so that my kids would have me at home. Uh-huh. You know, and I fee...
but we've sacrificed a lot to get there. Yeah, I, I agree. And, uh, I really think that if, uh, like after the second World War when women went to work in factories and all that, that was like out of necessity, because the men weren't here anymore. Uh-huh. But then it got to be a point where they got some independence....
Uh-huh. We really have, and I, I'm not trying to be, uh, you know, a prude or old fashioned or anything, but I, I don't think if you, unless you earn something and you've worked for it, and you have a sense of pride about it, because while I did this in, you know, no one gave it to me. Uh-huh. You will take better care...
and that's the way it'll go down the line, and like I don't have a car because I'm paying for college, and if I want a car, my parents always said if we wanted a car, we paid for the car, and we paid for our own insurance, and I think that's right because, Sure, but I'll bet your values are a lot higher, you know, and ...
and I know a lot of kids that don't even know, I mean I tell them I pay for my own life insurance and their mouths just drop to the floor, you know. Sure, they probably don't even have any. Well, if they do, they don't know it, you know Yeah, exactly, and that's what I say, you'll, you'll be so much better off for it a...
Actually I think abortion is going to take a turn where there is not going to be as many, because I think contraceptives are going to be more popular. I mean I realize that they are popular now, but I think, I really think people are going to start using more contraceptives and with the abortion, I don't think there is...
I, I do. I'm Catholic, and we, we are not supposed to, you know, say that that's okay, but I really feel that it's freedom of choice. Yeah. I do. Because I mean you as an individual, what you do, that to me is your business. Uh-huh. And, uh, And different circumstances call for different things. Exactly, exactly, that'...
I guess, you know, the thing really isn't over. Uh-huh. They, uh, they had, uh, kind of, uh, I don't know if you call it standout or whatever but anyway they stopped and waited to see if Iraq would accept a permanent cease fire situation though. As I understand it, from the Iraqi point of view this current cease fire t...
Yeah. I don't know, why they expect it's going to start this week, you know. Yeah. That's right. And it just, it's just not people they, and it's not, uh, you know, there isn't any real Arab coalition because they do fight among themselves. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And they fight with each other and they have such hatred for, u...
and his buddies ended up going to Saudi. Well, he's still in Korea and his buddies home now He, he almost wishes that, that he could have gone home. And got it over with. Yeah. Well, I just, there's just no way for us to be involved over there and hope that there will be much peace. Uh-huh. And, um, with, and that I'm ...
it's like any other country, you know, for whatever reason it's, it's actually there. Well, Iraq has had, uh, designs on that place since nineteen twenty-two so, you know, it wasn't like something that just suddenly popped up. Yeah. And it's just that this was an excuse, you know, to make some noise Now, something that...
So, now what they're saying is that, well, since we won whatever we say goes because it's, uh, a kind of a might make strike sort of attitude about it and, you know, we've got the power. Which is why for centuries or hundreds of years the British and the French had so much influence in there Yeah. because they'd go in ...
because we just don't want to send our people there and make them stay. That's, that's the, uh, that's, that's the big thing, you know, we still got a little bit of the old, you know, Vietnam, um, problem, you know, in the back of our minds. We, we got this, Yeah. we're, we're used to wars where you can get in do the j...
Uh-huh. I noticed that. But, um, you know, Well, I don't think there's much hope for a lasting peace over there like they, No, there, there never will be. Yeah. I mean, uh, uh, the only way that you're going to have peace over there, if, if we determine that we want to go in and wipe out every last one of them, you kno...
Well, I enjoyed the topic. I hope you have a good day. You too. Okay. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Okay. Hi, I, uh, I like, I love to do, uh, all kinds of crafts and sewing, I, I find that's my one release Uh-huh. Um, I like to do like physical things like sports. Uh-huh. Um, I really enjoy softball and my favorite is volleyball,...
so I just, like sometimes, I like, just to get away, I go to my room and I like walk in, turn the radio on, or, you know, just kind of like veg out or something. Uh-huh. Well I have two small kids and so, I, I don't have, you know, much time to, to go places and play sports, you know, Uh-huh. I have to do something whe...
Uh-huh. And a lot of my sewing I kind of do out of necessity, you know, for, you know, I've got two kids to put clothes on, so. Yeah, exactly, uh-huh. Like, um, I have, I come from a family of twelve children, Oh. and when I'm up here, I really miss my younger brothers and sisters, so you know, that's, that's a change,...
I just, uh, have, you know, one brother and he's married, and, you know, they have a couple kids, so I, you know, I don't have, uh, you know, I don't get on the phone too much. But, yeah most of my stuff is just going you know I enjoy going places with my kids and I do like sports, but I'm, you know, I don't have a lot...
Nobody would want me on their team. I'm the, you know, I'm the opposing teams best player, so, so to speak, so. Uh-huh. But, yeah, I enjoy, um, you know, just, I, you know, I have varied interests and stuff and yeah, so. Yeah, um, not that I like reading, but I do do a lot of reading while I'm here at school. Uh-huh. D...
I, yeah, I remember in college, I did a lot of reading, most of it text books, so. Uh-huh. And, just, you know keeping busy with everything else going on, so. But yeah, I, I like to do, uh, I've made stuffed cows, you know, dress, you know, dolls, they're like dolls, Uh-huh. you know, you make clothes for them and ever...
I have a whole stack of material and patterns to sew up as it is, so. Do you, um, I know one thing that's pretty popular with the girls up here at college, and I make them also, is the padded covered photo albums? Oh yeah, uh-huh, I do, I've done those too, before, yeah. Uh-huh. Those are real, I, I have a several of t...
Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, those are fun to do, and just little things, you know, I, I didn't have a lot of, when I was in college I did, you know, I did sewing for other people when I had time, you know, like if somebody needed a bridesmaids, maids dress made, I'd make that, but that's about all the sewing I did, I never had...
I don't have a lot of hobbies, mine are just mostly, you know things I just do out of necessity. Uh-huh. Okay, well, it's been nice talking to you. It was nice talking to you too. Good luck in school. Thanks. Bye, bye Bye, bye. All right, do you do garden work? As little as possible. I'm a college student Uh-huh. so if...
Yes. Yes. Well, do you, you know, do you do gardening at home? Yeah, we go home, well, we have a large family, there's twelve kids in my family. Oh my goodness. So, like almost all our vegetables and everything is from the garden. Hm. So we have a pretty good size garden Yeah, well I guess you glad you got to go to col...
and I had a whole bunch. But now, I work and I live in the city so, that sort a kind of hung it up. I have a few flowers, but most of mine are like in barrels and things like that. Uh-huh. And this year I decided that, well my husband made a little garden out there with some tomatoes and stuff in it, but I decided that...
but she has, it's like a little apartment building. And she has a tomato plant year round. Oh. Because she, you know, they keep it warm with, for all the older people, and she keeps it year round. I had never thought about that. I could probably plant one and bring it in, and just like I bring my plants in every year. ...
and then I like, um, you know what day lilies are? Pardon me? Day lilies. Are they, well, do they just come out in the morning then go Uh-huh. but we call them Morning Glories up here. No, no. Huh-uh. These look like a lily. They look like a, a, well, they really look like an orchid when they come out. Oh really. Uh-hu...
and then the next morning as soon as the sun hits it, it it starts opening up and then when it gets dark, it closes and that's it. It only blooms for one day. And then it's done, completely done. Uh-huh. Oh. Yeah. But, um, they look like orchids, is what they look like, but they look like different color ones, like I h...
Uh, I have a friend when I lived out in the country, and she had belonged to this kind of society that like every year, you know, or every so many months they would send you different bulbs that they came out with. Uh-huh. And I mean they were real expensive. They were like, well, the most expensive one that she gave m...
we're not taking that. But the last day, he said, Can't we leave the grass, and I said, Yeah, I think we will leave that. That'd be funny. But, I brought, my kids, when they were little they had given me some azaleas so I brought all my azalea bushes. Uh-huh. Yeah. And you know, I brought, I brought as much as I could ...
Because this house, I really liked it and everything, but the yard was a lot to be desired. Oh there was nothing. Oh. These people, we have one ugly pine tree. I mean, and it is ugly. I even tried making it look nicer, you know, I tied the yellow ribbon around it, and it was so ugly. Oh, it did not help, let me tell yo...
Really. Uh-huh. Now I like to go to the beach where the sand is, because then it doesn't make me ill Yeah. And, um, well even up here at school, you know, it gets hot, and we have the windows open, well they mow the grass up here sometimes six o'clock in the morning. And just to smell the grass, it's just, I just love ...
So, um, I get shots for it now, too. That helps a whole bunch. Uh-huh. But, one good thing about it, see I don't have to mow the grass or I mean, that's really nice. Yeah, you said that you had a garden. What all things do you plant in it, or do you like to plant in it? Well, the first thing we always plant is tomatoes...
Really. Sometimes when my dad has, like, that's the one thing no one is allowed to touch except my dad. He takes care of all the cucumbers, because he said the vines are just so, at our house, as soon as you touch a vine, it's like it completely dies. Really, Uh-huh. It must be the, uh, Sometimes we have really good lu...
We usually give them to everybody. Uh-huh. Anybody that wants a cucumber can have it. But we tried it, too, where you run it up a fence Uh-huh. and, um, we had some weird cucumbers because they grew inside the fence. I mean like the little thing would be half on one side and half on the other. Oh my gosh. I mean, it wa...
now if we have any, like the birds will pick or something, you know, and some of the seeds drop. Have you ever had them just come up in different places? Uh-huh. I know, we do that, too, you know, and at the first year, because I was from the city when we got married, and the first year that we planted, I couldn't figu...
Uh-huh. and we're finding out, like we have peach trees in the middle of our garden now, because we took peach seeds and dump them there, whenever the garden, like in the Fall, now we have peach trees coming up, All right, do you want to start out? Well, it'll be real easy for us, because we're both, my husband and I a...
Uh-huh. But, um, it was, it's really difficult in the area if you don't have, you know, the products that you can get. And if you go out to dinner, there's virtually, you know, there's not a whole lot of things you can get. There's very few places that you, I'll bet that you could, uh, Yeah. I think maybe if you were s...
So, but, so that's, that we don't really eat out too much. Yeah. We, we tend to eat at home. And actually, you know, I think we, we, we get a we have a healthier diet than the average person. Uh-huh. How long have you been doing this? Um, I've been a vegetarian for, uh, two years now. My husband has been one for, oh, j...
you're more aware of what nutrient, you know, value each thing has, and minerals. Uh-huh. And you're just more aware of food for energy, for energy sake. Uh-huh. I always thought it would be hard to figure what to eat if you were a vegetarian. How, how, Well, that's just it, you, you do have to figure it out. And, an...
Uh-huh. Well, the thing is that milk products, our bodies don't, uh, don't, uh, the lactose, that kind of milk, it doesn't, Uh-huh. our, we, we tend to, uh, what's it called? We don't synthesize the, the calcium the same way. We, we throw more of it off our out, in other words. Yeah. We, we slough some of it, we, we se...
your, your body accepts all of the broccoli. All that's in it. Uh-huh. So, it's like, it's like, say, a person using vitamins, as opposed to, uh, vitamin supplements as opposed to eating regular food. Why? Uh-huh. Your body just doesn't accept vitamins and the minerals in the, the vitamins in, uh, supplements that it ...
But he, he in the beginning, began for health reasons. Uh-huh. But, um, now he, he feels like I do. That he looks at the things that he eats and he realizes what they are before he eats them. Uh-huh. And he, you know, Uh-huh. He thinks more about them, then. Yeah. Plus he eats, we both think more about, I thought more...
Uh-huh. Well, we do too. I mean, I was raised in, um, we're in cattle country. Uh-huh. And people here buy a half a cow and put it in their freezer, Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, yeah. you know. And that's, that's the way I, and I, believe you me it wasn't easy to give up to give up a hamburger. That, that was one of my favorite ...
inside yourself you just, it's not right. Uh-huh. So, but, um, So you would have a little more trouble when you were looking for a dining area than what most most people would. Now we wouldn't have that problem, because we're not vegetarians. So what do you look for when you, Uh, I think the main thing that I look for ...
And, uh, we do, do that a lot. And I guess I'm getting old, older, also I like to be served. I like to sit down and have my, uh, order taken. As opposed to like a cafeteria kind of situation? Right, yeah. Yeah. So, I suppose you'd say I, well I, I don't know whether it's age or what it is. But I have, Well no, I don't ...
I guess because we don't go out that much, Uh-huh. I feel like it's a treat. You should have a treat. Yeah. And I like the light meals. Not all restaurants have light meals on their menu, you know. Uh-huh. And I, Oh. Light menu, you mean like cooked light or, Uh, L I T E, like, uh, uh, things that aren't as heavy a me...
Yeah. Uh, but it's not all rest, You know, I, I like those too. Uh-huh. I like those too, because, uh, some, seems like sometimes it's, you order a meal, you order their dinner meal, and it's like they're trying to find out how much you can eat. Or I know or it's too much, yes. Or, or like evidently people go in ther...
Uh-huh. And I think that's a shame. Uh-huh. I mean, I must admit, sometimes I do like a buffet. But, uh, but I think that they just tend to make you, you say, Oh, well, I've have got all I can eat Uh-huh. or, or, you know, it's one of these situations where nobody's going to restrain what you eat, the amount that you ...
and, uh, they just, and fruit and vegetables and they, they just, I don't know. I know I always overeat no matter. I go with good intentions, but I, somehow along the way, when I come back to my seat, I have too much. And I eat it because it's so good. Yeah. Well at least it's fruit and stuff there Yeah Maybe it's not ...
Yeah. But, uh, So, We like, uh, we do like international food, so we take, Do you? I like we like Indian food, Uh-huh. and, uh, I love Italian food, Uh-huh. and, uh, Chinese? Chinese but, We've got a good Chinese restaurant in town. Yeah. I, I really like eating there and, and you don't get stuffed on their food it see...
You know, you can eat a whole big plate of their food, and you really don't feel like you've eaten too much. You're full, you know, you're satisfied, Yeah. but you don't feel stuffed and miserable. Yeah, yeah. That's one thing that I wish we had more of, uh. Because where we're from, it's, it's pretty limited, and it's...
Yeah. So what movies have you seen? Uh, well, I have, uh, seen DANCES WITH WOLVES, which is probably the, the best movie that I have seen lately. Uh, I do not go out to films very often. So, as far as out of the house. Uh-huh. So we do get a lot of videos that we bring in, uh, and I see some that way. But, uh, I am not...
Oh, cute. And he is up in the attic asleep because he got in trouble. Oh, dear. So she made him go sleep upstairs. Uh-huh. And there is, there is a couple of burglars, uh, breaking into the houses in the neighborhood. Oh, And, uh, Oh, and he hears them or something and, Yeah. And he sets up traps for them all over the ...
Uh, we usually wait and eventually it comes out on video, and then we get it and see it that way. Right. And that is, it, movies are very expensive. Uh, movie theatres here, they are six dollars, uh, for evening performances. And that is kind of steep, Uh-huh. I think. I don't know. How much is it in Dallas? Well, it i...
What do you think of movies in general? As far as the, as the trends? Well, I think they are a lot better than they than they were, well, like, um, in the early eighties or the, during the, like the SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT era. Uh-huh. When it was, they, I do not think they were very good during that time. Yeah. At least...
Uh, but DANCES WITH WOLVES did not seem to have anything added. It was just all legitimate kind of, uh, film. And that is where reason why I suppose it won so many Oscars, uh, because it really was good even though it is such a long movie. You know, they said, "Oh, people won't, won't be interested in a three hour movi...
Yeah. Especially JAWS. Right. That was on Prime Time Television here, uh, recently at seven thirty in the evening. And, uh, it was kind of shocking because that is a scary movie. And children, young children could see, could have seen that movie, uh, at that hour. Uh-huh. And I thought, that, you know, that would not h...
Oh. Yeah. It, just a touch. Yeah. Well, the whole movie is kind of far fetched. Uh-huh. But, I mean the whole idea behind it is far fetched. They hardly ever play music when a shark attacks somebody. Not, not too often Yeah. That has gotten to be a whole camp idea now though, you know. If you hear that music, you know,...
Uh-huh. And then when it was, I, I found out it was Kevin Costner when it was on, um, I guess A B C the other week, then I, Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then I really liked it. It was good. Uh-huh. It was very good. But, uh, um, uh, see I have, uh, teenagers in my house. And of course sometimes they rent movies and, you know...
and then, and then, uh, Shoeless Joe Jackson really was a player. I thought they made him up, and then I found out, you know, after I saw the movie that, they, they started talking about that scandal and, Oh, really? Yeah, when the, when the anniversary came up Uh-huh. that was around the time of anniversary, you know....
I had not heard anybody talk about it. But, uh, he certainly could have been. Uh, which was kind of interesting. You know, someone who, uh, who was a real activist but then took up the cause. Uh, kind of gave up, you know, because he did not think anything was happening, Yeah. and so, uh, it was kind of fun. Yeah. And ...
INVISIBLE MAN by Ralph Ellison. Uh, no. Huh-uh. It is an incredible book. It, uh, really is very, very interesting. I highly recommend it. Uh, did they make the movies after that or, Uh, the, yeah, the movie, the in FIELD, FIELD OF DREAMS came out after, uh, that novel. Uh-huh. So it could easily have been patterned af...
I mean that character could have been patterned after him or someone like him, certainly. Uh-huh. Sort of interesting, so. Well, I guess we have talked probably our time limit, haven't we? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. It was Nice talking to you. Very good. It was nice talking to you. Okay. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Are you in the mar...
Well, a friend of my father's, and he'd driven it all over the country and it runs great. Uh-huh. Oh, incredible, how many miles on it? It's like, it has a hundred and fifty-three thousand. And it's still running real well. Yeah. Oh, great, yeah. We have, uh, right now we have two cars, uh, I have, my husband and mysel...
well, my son was driving, and someone came into his lane and hit him, and fortunately he was able to, his, I mean he was checked out of the hospital, was out of the hospital by that night, but the car was completely totalled Uh-huh. and Mike, and, they had been, my two sons had been a passenger in a car about a year an...
I think the brakes on the Plymouth van is just, are terrible. Um. If the road is at all wet, and I'm, and I don't go all that fast, but the, uh, it, it just doesn't hold. It doesn't hold well at all. So, I, I definitely want to get anti lock brakes. So, I don't know, do you have any particular things that, that are pri...
That is incredible. So. Uh, we, we get about, our, the van gets, on highways, can get about twenty-eight. The Audi does not have good mileage. That's the one drawback. It's a powerful car. Um, but it does not, uh, Uh-huh. I mean, I, if I'm on a highway and I can get twenty, twenty-one miles per gallon, I consider that ...
Um, but I, uh, I, I don't need, uh, you know, power windows are nice, but I don't need them Although I must say when you're driving in the east and there are all these toll roads, come into a toll road, you just push that button down, Right. it's real nice for that window to zip down and zip up, instead of having to cr...
Uh-huh. I guess that those are my major criteria. Everything else is, you know, a luxury, and they, make the car more expensive, but they often add more things to repair when things go wrong. Right. So, uh, if you were to buy a new car now, a brand new car, what would you look for? Um, like you said, anti-lock brakes a...
Right, and the parts, I know the Audi parts are terribly expensive. Uh-huh. I mean, it I shudder. I would not get the Audi again, just for that reason. But I would love, I wish an American, an American, that, you know, engineering would make something as solid as a German car. You know, we certainly have the technology...
But, do you need air conditioning down there? Yes, we really do Yeah. because even today it's supposed to get up into the nineties. So Oh, we've had eleven days in a row over ninety. Uh-huh. They've in fact had to excuse school down here because of that. Well, listen, I enjoyed talking with you. Okay, and enjoy, enjoy ...
bye-bye Bye-bye. Do you have any? I'm trying to think offhand I can't think of anything, you know. I have, I have one, Okay. and it's a real pet peeve of mine. It seems I, I do work during the day and when I'm home, uh, you know I'm either cooking or running doing, things or, uh, laundry or stuff. Uh-huh. And I hate wh...
I will go out and get it myself. And I will never, I never buy anything from a telephone, salesperson. Oh, I wouldn't, either, no. So, I really feel that it is a real invasion, they're invading my time and my space by, you know, interfering in whatever I'm doing Uh-huh. and I, it really bothers me. Uh-huh. Um, it's a l...
Because you don't hear, you know how, they can say anything they want it's just, but I just feel that's my big thing on the invasion of, my thing on invasion of privacy. Uh-huh. And, um, I have, uh, I sort of have a sort like you can prevent yourself from getting junk mail by getting yourself off of mailing lists. I wi...
If you get junk mail on a regular basis from any particular company you can, Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah, yeah, you have to go to the post office and ask them for the form that you fill out to, not to get, you know, junk mail from specific companies. Oh, wow. And I wish there were something like that where you ca...
because I've called and there really wasn't any significant message and I, and I wasn't going to be available to be called back. Uh-huh. And it was sort of like, oh, the hell, I'm not going to spend the time giving, leaving a message, and, uh, I'll call later, if I'm available. Yeah. The other thing that, um, that ther...
but it turned out it had to have been my husband's office phone number. And, uh, we were able, we weren't actually able to trace it, but we were able to, to discard the charges. Uh-huh. Um, but it was, I don't like how they the, I, I realize that this is your identification but I worked with someone that got hold of hi...
and that was because I initiated it. Yes. Uh, and occasionally I do order things from catalogs over the phone. Uh-huh. But again it's, I initiate it not the company. The other thing is though you do not have to, if you're buying something in a store and they and you pay for it by charge and they ask you for your teleph...
Um, well, this would, this is limited to the privacy issue, the invasion of privacy. Oh, okay. Yeah, and I guess, uh, that was my, that's probably my biggest one in terms of invasion of privacy. For people outside the family, of course, I've got little pet peeves, you know, with my family. You know. But of course, I gu...
Well, I mean, that's none of their business. Yeah. And but of course, now by law they can't ask that. Yeah. So I mean there has been I think a lot to, done to protect privacy. Yeah, especially between women and, How do you feel, Uh-huh. Yeah. they've gotten a lot with, uh, applications and stuff and aren't allowed to a...
I don't because I think whenever, and something like that they're looking out for everyone. They're not, Yeah. you know, I think it's more safety than anything else. I feel that way too. I sometimes feel you know, sometimes individual rights including the right to privacy have to be sacrificed for a greater benefit. Ye...
I kind of do their work for them because they make it more hazardous than what it is without them, you know. That's right. Yeah, I know yeah, I feel, you know, I think some of the people that oppose, you know, mandatory drug testing for certain areas say, well, it's not, So, uh, let's see what was the topic, I forgot w...