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Really. It just seems so sad to have to only rely on, you know, college football. Is that all they're going to have to make money, you know. Yeah. But I didn't think that was the objective, to make money. But it seems like it is. Huh. It really is. I know there's a lot of pressure on schools to have a winning program. ...
Are you from Dallas area? Yeah, yeah, I'm in the facilities there, down here in Dallas. Yeah, I guess football is the big sport down here, isn't it. Uh, certainly high school football, and college football, but again high school football is just so much fun to watch, because, uh, you know, not everybody plays of course...
Is that right? I never heard , that's, uh, I never been in a football game in high school that had that many. Yeah, so that's, I mean, that's pretty big. Like he's from Indiana, and he plays for Indiana now. And, Indiana him to be a lot bigger than pro basketball up there. The Pacers don't really draw that big of a cro...
zero. I, I listen to him, and occasionally I'll watch them on channel eleven, but gee, I can't, uh, more than five minutes of a basketball game, just seems about, that's it, of, uh, pro anyway. Yeah, seems like you could set the score at a hundred and then give them five minutes to play, Yeah. then it'd be the same res...
I'll think of them in a minute. Perkins, Sam Perkins, can't think of the other one. They're both. Tarpley, is he one? Pardon me? Tarpley? Yeah, Tarpley, and they both left this past year, and both of them were on playoff teams, uh, so, they benefitted tremendously by leaving the Mavericks. Yeah. And Sam Perkins, here, ...
And he was, he never quite achieved the, you know, the super stardom that he had in, in college, Uh-huh. but, uh, basketball, they have a nice, I don't know if you've down to the sports for Reunion Arena. It's, Well, what kind of garden do you have? Well, we've tried having, let me turn the T V off, we've tried having ...
and, uh, if you really water a lot, you can do it, but, you know, when you have to pay for water, it really gets to be an annoyance to have to water constantly. Uh-huh. So, right now we're just, Do you have a lawn? Yeah, we, we just try to maintain the lawn and the shrubs right now, and the trees. We have a peach tree....
and of course I've got lots of weeds in mine because, I don't use any poison either. Yeah. But, um, you know, I just keep looking at, and I say, Jeez, you know, this is the first year it's been so perfect. Really. Gosh. But, and my garden, you know, my tomatoes are two and a half feet tall Oh, boy the plants and, that ...
and sure enough, you know, we had really mild weather until I think it was May or something Wow. Uh-huh. and then, you know, everything just got hit hard Oh, boy, that's frustrating. So, but yeah, it, it's interesting, and I enjoy gardening. My son does the mowing of the grass. Oh, yeah, my husband does that, thank goo...
and that's one thing that impressed me so much is no matter what size yard somebody had, they had a beautiful garden in it. You know, it could be three feet by four feet or something. Uh-huh. So I do admire that, but I haven't really put, uh, too much energy into it. Course we have two little kids that are two and thre...
Right. What about tomatoes, aren't they pretty hardy? Um, we've tried them, but again, it's just like the sun scorch. Oh. We've tried them in kind of halfway in the shade and halfway in the I mean it's just, you really, really have to be prepared to water constantly during the Summer. Uh-huh. People that have been succ...
and then I go, Oh, yeah, I need to do something, and by then it's burned up, you know. Uh-huh. It's just too distracting right now with these little ones in our lives, so maybe when I get older I'll find, uh, some joy in that Well, I would assume, too, I mean, you've got three or four months you're talking about of, of...
I mean, that was like the most energy invested in anything in the whole time I ever knew him They remodeled the entire back yard. Then they sold the house and got divorced, so I don't know what that says about it all Oh, dear. Oh, but she used to love to do stuff like that. Sounds like it would have been pretty. Yeah, ...
They're both running around now. And, you know, gardening isn't, isn't high on the list, but it's not off the list. Yeah, well, it's very therapeutic, I think, really to get out there and dig in the dirt, you know. Uh-huh. They certainly enjoy that part of it It's just trying to keep anything. I planted bulbs last, uh,...
If they survive this year. Oh, well, good luck to you. Okay, well, thanks. Nice talking to you. It was nice talking to you too. Bye-bye. Okay Have you ever, uh, organized a family reunion? Uh, no I have never organized one. But we are, we have one, uh, we are going to have one on Memorial Day, I guess. Uh-huh. They hav...
It, But I never thought of it really as a reunion. Uh-huh. I sort of think of a reunion with my, uh, all the extended family Everybody, yeah. Yeah. That would be hard for us because most of the family is out in California. And some is in New York and North Carolina, Uh-huh. and it gets, it is kind of hard to get get ev...
Uh-huh. So, so he does not live there though? Uh, no. It is, it is, it is like a country, country home. Vacation home. Uh-huh. Yeah. It sounds nice. Uh, are there kids that are there too, or mostly adults? Yeah. The grandchildren. Uh-huh. Just a few. It just depends, uh, uh, all my grandparents are dead so, uh, there i...
Uh, yeah. We are in, we are all, uh, like they live up in Sherman. It is near Lake Texoma. Uh-huh. And, Uh-huh. Yeah. uh, all of his children live in the Dallas area too. So, Yeah. That to me is, yeah, Dallas I know of, Houston I know of, and that is about it In Texas. Uh-huh. The rest of it is sort of a big void to me...
we all got together, it was about two years ago for, I was, I had graduated from college. And, uh, I was going to live in France for a year. And so my parents invited, it was not just family, it was friends too. But, uh, we all got together for just a party. And that was kind of fun. Uh-huh. Nice to have everybody toge...
Yeah. It was kind of fun. But, uh, but who was it? A friend of mine had a big family reunion a couple of years ago and, you know, everybody flew in from all over the place for the weekend. And it really sounded like it was fun. But, I am not quite sure what I would do. I think it would be fun to like rent a big mansion...
The cleaning up can be a mess. Uh-huh. But uh, do you have horses or anything at your dad's farm? I am, I am sorry? Does, does your dad have horses there? Uh, no, he does not really have any, any, uh, uh, domestic livestock anyway. Uh-huh. But, he leased, uh, to his neighbor for the cattle to feed on. I see, so it's, s...
And then there is wild blackberries there too. Uh-huh. So, Yeah. I, used to, we used to go pick wild blackberries at my friend's property, he gets, but we never got enough. I used to make jam, but I never had enough to really make, you know, more than a jar or something. Huh. So it was not so worth it. Yeah. It is kind...
Well, that is pretty big Uh-huh. I do not know how they do scale down there. You know, here it would be a huge amount of land. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because they, is this house here that has a lot of space is three or four acres. As opposed to tens of acres. Yeah. And, uh, and most of it, you know, you just spend time on m...
But the bass, we have not been able to catch any of the adult bass yet. So, Uh-huh. they are in there, but they are real spooky. Yeah. I think my dad put some. We have a little pond at our, at his vacation home too. And, I mean really little. Uh-huh. And they were having problems with too many goldfish because we had p...
Oh. So we do not know whether it is living or, Oh, it is probably in there just burping goldfish. Yep. Yeah. We still have lots of little goldfish. They propagate pretty well, those little fish. Yeah, Yeah, they really do. because we started, we have got hundreds in there now, and we started with, I think, ten or twent...
yeah. It, They there is a, uh, you might put some, like some yellow catfish in there. I do not know if they would live very well up in New York, but they get huge. And, uh, they routinely use them for bait for, uh, goldfish for bait for yellow catfish. Oh, okay. Well, we would want to put some small ones in so they do ...
well, we could try it. That is a good idea. Uh-huh. Because he was trying to catch them, you know, using little, uh, I forget, there's little, uh, nets you can use to catch fish to use as feeder fish and things like that. Minnow nets or something. Uh-huh. My father was taking those and trying to catch the goldfish. And...
That is what happens But do you guys have fishing competitions while you are there? Yeah And, uh, we feed the catfish. They feed the catfish like, uh, every couple of weeks. And, uh, and sometimes that is the best time to catch them. Yeah. Because they will just, they will just come after anything then. Uh-huh. And you...
Yeah. That is funny. But they come up to the top. And it is the best time to take pictures, because they come up to the top, and you can see their whiskers come through the water. And they're, Uh-huh. the the big catfish just kind of vacuum the top of the water. Uh-huh. I have never seen catfish, you know, except in fi...
Oh, well, the channel catfish get up to, uh, I think the world record is fifty some pounds. Uh, Do you know? that, that is only about three and a half feet long. That is pretty big though. Yeah, Yeah. they get real fat. Uh-huh. Uh, from the time, they, they stay slender until they get to be, uh, eighteen inches long, a...
Uh-huh. And it swimmed wherever it wanted to. Yeah. That sounds amazing. I will have to see them sometime. But, all righty. Okay. It was nice talking to you. Nice talking to you too. Okay. Bye-bye. Enjoy your, uh, weekend. Yeah. Have a nice Memorial weekend. Okay. You too. Bye-bye. Bye. Okay, now you can tell me what y...
Uh, well, I work with computers, just like your son Uh-huh. and I actually do research in speech recognition Oh, great. part of the reason I'm participating in the project is to see how the stuff goes. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But, um, I was working well, actually I haven't worked for any large companies per se uh, recently Uh-...
Uh-huh. because health care is so ridiculously expensive. Because we're, we're paying our own insurance right now. uh-huh, uh-huh. But and I'm, we actually had a little baby so I'm taking a little bit of a time off from work. Oh, Great, I had, I had a granddaughter Oh, congratulations. And so one thing that I'm very co...
That, that helps some, if, it depends on what your deductible is how high it is. Right. Well, my, our deductible's five hundred but it's for each event. Each person. Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty high, Right but, you know, so it covers the emergency things but it doesn't cover if you get sick Right. it doesn't cove...
I know where my daughter works, now she, she, course we live in a, a rural sort of setting Uh-huh. and where she works she has no benefits at all. Wow. And her wage is not, not very good Uh-huh. But it's, it's the type of area we live in. Of course, living expenses aren't as bad either, though, which makes a difference...
Well, I know that friends of mine had a baby up in Boston Uh-huh. and their costs were about fifty percent of what it cost to have it in Manhattan. Is that right? And they were at one of the better hospitals, you know Uh-huh. and, you know, good doctors in Boston. Wow that's a big difference. And I was at one of the bi...
because it would be really nice to be able to have, you know, someone that could watch my daughter at work. And I'd go to work, and if she were sick I could go down and see her, if she needs to be fed, whatever. And it would be much more convenient. Yeah And I, it would be more convenient, too. It would be more conveni...
those three things, the health care, vacation, and day care are probably the most important benefits. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I suppose I should be concerned with life insurance and, uh, retirement plans but, Oh, I don't know, I think those benefits you mentioned, sometimes they're even more important than the wage itself. Yea...
because your life would be so much easier. Uh-huh. And there's a question of quality of life also. Uh, well, and if it was there, you would really have a little more, uh, knowledge on what's going on probably, you know, with your child. Yeah. Right, and, you, you, you don't feel like you're a half hour away if she some...
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Yeah because Pittsburgh's a big enough city, too. Uh-huh. But you know, I wouldn't be surprised if thing's like that didn't happen more in smaller communities before they happen in bigger ones. Just because people might be more flexible in smaller locations and things like that. Uh-huh. Yeah, ...
Right. Yeah. And if you get two weeks off, you get two weeks off and you're not allowed two weeks and one day. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it all depends on what your position is there, too. True, well, that's true in any, any company, I think. Yeah. I've, I've never, well I can't say I've never, I've maybe worked fiv...
and, Uh-huh, and you have to take care of any benefits you want yourself, yeah. Right, and the same thing my husband is unfortunately being paid as a consultant Uh-huh. and we tried to argue that he should get more salary for that than what he is Uh-huh. and, um, they, they, they, Usually consultants make very good inc...
it's harder to get the, uh, you know, increases and things Uh-huh. Uh-huh. but, um, A consultant really is, should be more knowledgeable than everybody else, you know Yeah, well he's, so it stands to reason they should really have more benefits. Right, well, he's been doing a long term, he's being called a consultant, ...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So really his salary should be, you know, twenty percent or thirty percent higher just based on that, not including the fact that you know, it's a less, long term commitment for the company and all that sort of stuff. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, and they'll do it, Do you or your husband work for T I, or...
I try to, I try to think of myself as young, but, uh, well, have you seen any movies recently? Uh, I'm trying to think, we saw, uh, DANCES WITH WOLVES Oh, did you? and, uh, have you seen that one? No, I haven't, I have, have a hard time with movies that are real long. That was excellent. I don't know. Well, so oddly en...
I can't think now what the name of it was I've gone blank. We saw THE NAKED GUN, TWO AND A HALF Oh, we have not seen that, we want to see that one. and that was, that was pretty funny, and then we saw, what was the spoof on TOP GUN, it's Oh, I haven't seen that one. oh, I can't think of what that was called. We saw tha...
and so we watch a lot of them, you know, at home as they come out, Right. and, uh, Have you seen GHOSTS yet? Yes, yes. I really, I enjoyed that movie, Did you? Now I, I was real disappointed Really. I'm a real big Patrick Swayze fan Uh-huh. and, uh, I was really disappointed in it, it one, I don't think it was as funny...
it was, it was more of a love story Yeah, and, uh, so I was really disappointed in that because I like him real well. Uh-huh. We just got through watching one with, uh, uh, is it Claude Van Damme yeah, and, uh, enjoyed it, Uh, Van Damme, yeah, I think, I can't think what the name of it was a, uh, of course, one of the ...
Yeah, I really enjoyed that a lot. Yeah, that was one that, that stayed with me you know, for a month, Uh-huh. I just, I kept thinking about it, you know, Yeah, well, it's amazing, but really, I mean, when you stop and think about it, Anthony Perkins didn't have that big a role in the movie No. and yet it was his chara...
you know, Jody Foster was good, too, but I think, I think Anthony Perkins was the one that, that really made the movie, I agree with you. Is it Anthony Perkins or Anthony Hopkins? Oh, Hopkins, I'm sorry Hopkins, uh-huh. Hopkins, yeah. I always get those mixed up. I know I know. It, uh, well, I'm not a real big Jody Fos...
Now, I didn't see that one. That was, that was pretty interesting movie, and, uh, but, you know, I, I did, I really liked the SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, that was really intriguing, and it, it didn't scare me all that much, you know, and I, I don't like to go to movies to be scared, that's not why I go No, no so, I like a go...
Oh. I went with, uh, our daughter and, uh, so, you know, saw it with her, and, uh, enjoyed it. Uh-huh. My all time favorite is WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S. Oh, really? Did you see it? Yeah, I've seen it. Oh, I've seen it, you know, we saw it at the movies, and then we've rented it several times Uh-huh. and, we just love it, in...
Uh, yes, yes, I love that movie, My husband liked that Yeah, so, uh, he's a big Gene Wilder fan, Yeah, well, Gene Wilder doesn't do that much for me, but I'm a big, uh, Mel Brooks fan Uh-huh, uh-huh. all his movies, I really, really . He has a new one out. He does? Yeah, uh-huh. Uh, I have seen it advertised. I don't k...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. Oh, yeah, that came out, like early in the summer or something like that. Yes, yes. Yeah, I haven't seen that one either. Yeah, my husband wants to see that one, and, uh, did you see that one that he made years and years ago about the, uh, the sheriff Oh, BLAZING SADDLES. BLAZING SADDLES. Yeah, uh-huh. ...
that, that was just, you know, had all kinds of things throughout the whole movie, I just really enjoyed it, and, uh, um, I'm trying to think, because we saw another one that we thought was really good, early this summer, that was a suspenseful movie. I'm trying to remember what it was, because it, you know, it's, Okay...
and of course Texas has it, but they very seldom, you know, put it into effect. So instead all of our prisons are full of people on, you know a lot of people on death row. Okay, well, Uh, Texas uses it as, about as much as any other state. Well, uh, yeah Texas is a big state, which is not very often. Right. Um, here in...
Do you have the overcrowding in your prisons that we are facing down here? Uh, I don't know the exact numbers, but, but yes, prisons are overcrowded. I know that we have, you know, really in fact they're, they're releasing people, uh, that are in there for, you know, not major crimes, but, uh robberies and assault and ...
Probably not in Eastern Europe these days either. Um, there are many reasons for it, but they, they certainly have lower crime rates and lower murder rates. Yes, you wonder what their, you know, how they manage to do that. Well, in part it's, uh, it's the nature of societies, perhaps more homogenous society, in many ca...
in our society, people are brought up over here thinking that, you know, everybody owes them something. Um, I think, I think that idea is even, even more common in Western Europe. Oh, do you? Uh-huh. Well, that's interesting. I would not have, I would not have said that. I would have said that it was more prevalent her...
and, uh, it has more world affair type things, of course. And then I will purchase a GOOD HOUSEKEEPING occasionally, especially around the holiday time because of recipes and ideas and and things like that Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and, uh, do you subscribe to any magazines? Yeah, I, well, I have, in a for a while I haven't gott...
well, I found that after a couple of years of having a PARENTS magazine it was getting repetitious, so I kind of canceled it anyway for that reason. Uh, the HOUSEKEEPING magazines I do like because they, like you say, they have nice, uh, recipes in them and ideas, but, uh, lately they've just been piling up on me, so I...
Uh-huh. and, uh, then, oh, I don't know what in the seventies, maybe, late seventies they changed their format Uh-huh. and I haven't, I don't think there's been a magazine as they used to be Well even GOOD HOUSEKEEPING I don't, yeah, and some of those have had what, what I consider or what I get the idea that they are ...
Right you know, and if I want to drool or if I want to see how the other half is living you know, then I can, I look through them Yes. Yeah. and I do, I just, what I do is I flip through them and, and pitch them then, you know, they're not something I, you know, take any length of time over. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I have disc...
You know, they get tons of magazines it seems Yes they're always getting something in the mail and, and, uh, so between reading to them and, uh, reading the newspaper, and then I have a book that I'm occasionally reading when I get a chance, but I just don't get a chance for those, uh, newsy magazines, the ones that ar...
Oh, uh-huh. and, uh, that's one, and you know, I really like that, I enjoy that. It's quick reading you know, Uh-huh. it doesn't require a lot of thinking, and sometimes after I've worked all day and have things to do at night, I just, I want fluff Yeah. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I don't want a lot of thinking That's true, that ...
so, uh, I think that probably I will end the call. I've enjoyed, Okay. Um, I very seldom read a newspaper. I get most of my news information from T V. Mainly, um, if I'm really wanting an in-depth thing I'll watch C N N. Uh-huh. And I find it one of the best. Uh-huh. And, uh, otherwise it's just one of the regular, uh,...
Uh-huh. Well, I take the DALLAS MORNING NEWS and, and my husband, uh, he reads it cover to cover. Uh-huh. And, uh, if he thinks there's something that I need to know about he'll say, you know, here you need to read this and, uh I don't know Uh-huh. it, I kind of quit reading it, oh, I don't know several years ago when ...
I guess it's kind of the sadist in everyone You just, Yes, yes. I, I will pick up if there's something really gruesome in there I'll go through and read it. Uh, but I find that I do better with, oh, remembering it and everything if I watch, uh, the T V you know, Yeah. and, and they kind of capsize it and everything Yea...
And I guess you just, you know, you you just want to know and with interest, you know I found some people that were members of our church which was different. And that made you even feel a little more kin to, to what was going on. Well, you know, of the same, same type of church that we belong to. Oh, the same type of ...
but, uh No. when my grandchildren had, uh, have stayed over before and even maybe when our kids were younger one of the channels used to give brief inserts of news at a child's level. Uh-huh. And I thought that was very interesting, and I thought that was very important for kids. Like they brought down something that h...
Yeah, you know. And, uh, but as I said, uh, I you know, Right. Nobody should get that way about the news. And what's going on in the world. Right. Oh, do you have a certain station you like to watch when you watch it or, Yes. We like channel eight. Do you? We like it. It's the best. Um, channel five for some reason has...
I very and I thought it was very interesting, uh, channel nine watching it when the murders were in Killeen Uh-huh. and, and going on. They were having news coverage and, The C N N, is that what that is? No, it was channel nine. Huh. And, you know they have that hour that nine to ten of an evening. Oh. And so we had th...
Yeah. I can understand why channel eleven is, uh, you know, why they're kind of behind. Yeah. Did I say channel nine to begin with? Yeah That's why I wondered. No Okay. No, channel eleven I meant. I don't get that channel Yeah. I was thinking nine to ten. Yeah, yeah. But channel eleven, That is if you, if you want to g...
but the coverage wasn't near as good as when we, you know, switched over to channel eight and they didn't Okay, would you, uh, like to begin or would you like me to start? Uh, oh, I can start. Okay. I, I think one of the, the biggest, uh, improvements in women is that finally you're starting to see them get into, uh, m...
I agree with that. I, I think you do see more and more women out there in politics, too, as mayors or, uh, you know, in, in helping to maybe, uh, get some legislation passed to, to have women have more rights. Yes. I think still, even with that whole, um, thing with Judge Thomas and, and, uh, you, you still felt like t...
And it's getting the respect and, which is about time. I think it's true. I think also people are having children at a older age Yes, very definitely. so it's maybe like, uh, you know, you go through college and then you maybe work for a few years and then you have your first child and, uh, you know, you, you know both...
I know it, I know. Because I know I stayed home with mine and didn't start working until mine were in high school. Uh-huh. And, uh, so, you know, it, it kind of does me good. I think also one of the things that, that's really tremendous and, it doesn't necessarily have to do with women, but the fact that the fathers ar...
and I was just out of the house two days a week Uh-huh. but, I thought, wow, this is really hard, only, and it was only two days and I was home before three. But getting the baby to day care, getting the kids off to school, I still did everything I always do, you know, my husband still got up and went to work Uh-huh. b...
and so I would work and her, some friends would take care of the kids, but I would have to get them picked up from there get them fed, get them to practices get homework done, get baths. Pick up. Dinner. Right. I was absolutely exhausted. I bet, I bet. And, and these women that are waiting until they're in their late t...
do we just go ahead? Uh-huh. Okay. Do you want to start? Uh, well, we're supposed to talk about vacations Right. and, uh, I'm trying to think of the ones that I've been on that I liked the most and probably the one I liked most was Hawaii Oh, did you get to go to Hawaii? Yes. Yeah, we went there for our twenty-fifth we...
uh-huh. We went to Kauai, and then we also hit Maui, and then, of course, uh The big one. uh, the big one, uh-huh. Oh. With, uh, the big one I thought was very commercialized. Oh, yeah. It was. But the other two were just lovely. Yes, I enjoyed Kauai better, too. Uh-huh, it was quiet and restful, and, and so beautiful....
Rainy, but, you know, we don't like to spend the money to go over there and sit on the beach anyway so, That's right. Well, it wasn't real rainy. We had a few showers, but, uh, nothing that really got in the way with anything and just very brief ones and, and, when, uh, now we went to Nassau and my husband liked it bet...
Uh-huh. That was wonderful Yeah. and we both enjoyed it very much. That was That was nice, uh-huh. You know, I've been to Nassau, too. Have you? I went on a cruise. Oh, neat. Uh-huh, and, uh, to tell you the truth, I, I think I'd rather just go to the island. Yeah, uh, our son and daughter-in-law just, uh, they got mar...
Oh, did you? Yeah, I did the first night. I went with my sister just, uh, a couple years ago Ooh. Uh-huh. and, and we both, the first night, just had to leave dinner. Um. It was bad, but, and then after that it was, it got better, but we just, it was a four day Uh-huh. and we were both ready to get off the boat. Were y...
Yeah. We went, the first time we went to London, Europe and touched a little bit of Scotland And second time we went to Munich, Germany and were there a week, and loved Germany. Oh. It is just absolutely gorgeous with the mountains Wow. I'll bet it is. and we were there in the fall before the snows, you know, started a...
How old were you when you left? Uh, just ten months. Oh, ten months, uh-huh. Yeah, so, Have you ever got to go back? No, no, and I would like to. Would you? My, uh, my sister, we went with them to Germany and, uh, she would like to go to Spain. I'm not sure whether I would like to or not. Huh. And, uh, I would like to ...
Well, the there is uh-huh, is, is a little scary, but I would still like to see it. I'd like to see, uh, Italy. Oh, yeah, yeah. I would love to go there. That would be nice. And, course, there is a lot of places in the United States I still want to come, you know, go to. Now, have you been to Yellowstone? Uh, Yellowsto...
And they loved it. Well, I was in Utah, in Salt Lake City when I was a, uh, youngster. Oh, uh-huh. So, uh, you know, I've touched on that. Yeah, now I'm just about, oh, a half hour, uh, north of Salt Lake. Oh. So, uh, it's at Yeah. my husband works in Salt Lake, so Uh-huh. we're real close and, yeah, we, Now that's a p...
Yeah. It is. Utah is a pretty state from what I remember of it. Well, we kind of like it Uh-huh Well, do you like to camp, those kind of trips? We, no, we used to We used to camp a lot with our Uh-huh. Oh, you like the motels? We like the motels, yes Oh, oh, well. We have, we've gone past the camping stage. We lived in...
and our kids loved it and everything and then we moved to, uh, uh, the Dallas area Uh-huh. and, uh, it's hot down here and camping is not near as much fun. Oh. And, uh, so, and then the kids were getting older and, and were involved in activities so the camping sort of went by the wayside. And, uh, although our son lov...
We're never home, so Uh-huh uh, uh, well, I know they were going to start one, but, uh, I haven't heard any more since, so I don't really know. But as far as personally doing something, no. No, um. How about you? Well we moved in, when we moved in, there, there wasn't any outside lights and so we've been trying to inst...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and so I have to spend a good deal of time watching them walk down the street and, say, call me before you leave and come back Uh-huh. and, We don't have any. We did install a, a a, uh, motion detector light back in our driveway. Uh-huh. And that was, mainly it was so when we pulled up, the light would ...
Yeah, yeah, that's Vandalism. what it is. We live in, Coppell and, and that's pretty much what it is, is you know, kids that are bored, like you say. Uh-huh. Yeah, and they don't, uh, I know my sister-in-law who lives in our neighborhood they've had their, Uh-huh. they parked their car out on the street before and it's...
but, uh, we've been real lucky that no one in my family with the, anywhere that they live has had, been a victim of, you know, a serious crime. Yeah, yeah. But, uh, it's really scary to know that you can live a normal life and try to be a good citizen but it doesn't mean you'll be safe Uh-huh. and, But, I guess I take ...
Uh-huh. So, has it been getting worse that you noticed, or about the same? Oh definitely. Um. In the last few years, I think, and, uh, like I say, now I don't think necessarily in this area here, but just Dallas in general. Uh-huh. I don't know, I think back of when I was, uh, younger and in my party days, some of th...
and, uh, but the schools in Houston all have big, tall fences around them and they're not really very safe Uh-huh. and so it's been interesting to come to the Plano area where the schools don't have fences at all around them, and it's just a whole different idea that, that, at least the people here feel that their kids...
Uh-huh? do you? Well, yes, of course, we do have capital punishment. And we've, you know, done away with our, quote, fair share number. Oh, that's right, I think now, that I recall, reading about it in the paper. Yes. Um, you know, different things, is it restricted to certain crimes? Or just, Yes, it's certain crimes,...
I mean they're anxious for someone to be killed Uh-huh. Yes. I just, I can't see that. That happens on occasion, it sure does, maybe it just depends on, you know, how closely the crime, you know, has affected you personally. Uh-huh. You know, I don't know, or a person personally. No. I think I would be, you know, I gue...
yeah, it goes on for years and years, and costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, taxpayer money. it's really sad. Yeah. I don't know, I just think, um, somehow I hoped that as a people we could be better than, than, um, expecting, the feeling that it Yes. with, someone is calling for someone else to be killed, you kno...
Oh, I don't know, is it, do you feel at all like, it's a religious issue? Not with me personally. It is with a lot of other people. Uh-huh. It's not, not to me personally, no. Um. No. I don't know, sometimes I feel, I mean I do go to church and things. I don't know how I would feel about it. But like you say, if it hit...