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I'm, uh, member of the American Meteorological Society, and Are you you didn't work at T I? Yeah, I do. Oh, okay. But I'm, uh, I, I did that in my . Where do you work in research, or No, I'm a planner, a production planner. Oh, okay. But I, I, I'm in the active reserves as a weatherman, so. Oh, okay, yeah. Uh, I, I kee...
and if there isn't, if there isn't and we do some the right things, I think, how do you feel about, about all this smog and stuff on cars. Uh, well, I'm kind of a car buff myself, I was going to ask you another question, but, uh, I'll do that in a minute. I, I think that the changing, you know, from leaded fuel was a t...
Yeah. And the. No, I, I think, uh, I, uh, work on my own cars and, uh, I don't think that's a problem. I thought, I'm saying, I was glad to get rid of leaded gasoline, 'n. But did you have another you said you had another Uh, oh, the same thing about the war, uh, or related to the war on, I was watching C N N and I can...
it was, No, I didn't see that , that, I know that the, uh, that's ... It must have been channel thirteen, I don't recall, although, I thought it was on C N N, oh, I, Well, that, they called nuclear winner and, and I suppose that's, that's the ultimate, uh, pollution problem. It was a somewhat of a commercial because it...
actually, um, because the circulation budget as high as it went, uh, covered, uh, a fairly remarkable amount they did some tracers and they I, I think it's drawn in, uh, I think, gets in there I can't think of the other trace, but I saw a, a presentation on, on that and they, it went quite a long ways but I, I, I guess...
I don't know if it's air pollution it's, uh, it's dust pollution whether it's natural or not I don't know. Well, it, that's the thing is that I think, I think Dallas really does have a problem in this, the idea if we could get some cleaner fuel, burning fuel, the problem is, is it's like Los Angeles. People don't, peop...
Yeah. And one of the guys that works with me drives forty-five miles. Yeah. And, and they don't think it, well, I guess they do think something of it but, um, not even to, you know, you consider how much, um, but then you get into all these issues of, of whether it, it's the types of pollution and what it's doing to yo...
when you go to trips and all you can have one gasoline car but I think we all could, in a family, say, have an electric car where my, one of my daughters or my wife, my wife, she could use one now if they had one, you know, because they, she don't even, she doesn't put fifty miles a day on the car. I think it's, no, it...
I, I think, uh, there could be a lot of I people close this is really, we're, we're nine years away or less, I guess, from the next century and I think, Well, there's still a lot of research, I was over in, in the research lab a couple, I guess, it's been about a month ago and saw this, research it was a little light t...
so I've been in all, most of the buildings anyway. Oh, well, I'm in, I'm in the C building, been there for, all my life. Oh, yeah, well, the, the solar area is right, right around from the auditorium now. And it, they've got several different, uh, areas where they're called solar lab. It's, right there on the first flo...
I think then again I'm surprised now I didn't think they'd asked anybody when I was in the auto show. There was nothing, uh, and there was no, place for air pollution or companies or anyone there. It was just pure automobiles. Well, I thought I saw an ad for Volkswagen that had an alcohol, There? they had one with spot...
so. I Uh, I was, uh, quite impressed with all the cars, you know, the engines are so much smaller now and everything and they're, they all have brand new engines, even General Motors, uh, very few only the Caprice and them and the Cadillac had eight, uh, the old V-eights, they're all brand new engines, uh, of course, t...
it's interesting though because my cars are older and so I didn't have to, if you live in Dallas County you have to have your, have to have it checked and it's , I had a friend with a Fiero that, uh, they tried and tried and tried and had all kinds of terrible getting that pinned and, so, apparently ... Okay. Well, I j...
Uh-huh. They had tickets at their school that they recycle either newspapers or cans, and I think that's all. Oh. speaking in the Okay, and they're taking the money that they earn to plant trees. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, and they've got their bins that stay there, and they've decorated real cute, you know, with a ...
and I live in a dorm, and we recycle paper. Uh-huh. And I know that there's a glass plant up here, and they recycle glass, and, you know, we recycle old aluminum cans and all that kind of stuff. So in each of the dorms you have a place for that? Uh-huh. That's really good. Uh-huh. Yeah. And then when our dorm, whenever...
Like we have access to a microwave and an oven if we want to cook things, and then we buy, like, cooking equipment and stuff. Uh-huh. Or we play games, like board games. We buy board games. You know, it's just different things, whatever, you know, we vote on it, and whatever the dorm would want, that's what we buy. Wel...
it was just this big project, she didn't want to get into that. And I could do it in the center, and I just never got around to it. But, it's like a club, you know about that? No. A little boy that had died of leukemia, I think, and he had started this, um, save the environment club. Oh. And his mother is carrying this...
No. No. Huh-uh. That's a department store. Oh. Kind of like K Mart except it's a little better than what K Mart sells, I think. Uh-huh. Oh. I would like, let's start up a Target. No. Um, I don't really know any other recycling that they do. So, you're not you're not having it picked up at your houses or anything. No. N...
Well, they're doing that here, too, now that I think about it voice in Once every so many weeks, and you have to pull out all the slicks, and you have to wrap them up with string. Oh. And, I think that's all they're picking up. But you know, like in Minnesota, they've got their bins where you put plastics and your bott...
and your money comes out, you know, every once in a while, for however much poundage you've got. And if you keep feeding it until the light goes off. And you get instant cash. Oh my gosh. But they had one that I was putting my stuff in, and I went to take some today, and it was gone. Um. I don't know. But I located ano...
But I know they're going to start now. Uh-huh. Well they're certain places, you know, where down there you can take your leaded cans. But I don't know where they are. They publish it in the newspaper if you wanted to get into it. Uh-huh. I don't know. I'm trying but, I just can't recycle everything. Yeah, yeah I'm not ...
they're taking those up. You can take them to the stores Um, like Kroger's doing it. And I think Skaggs. Do you have those up there? We have Kroger, but not a Skaggs. And we, they're taking our milk cartons and our plastic coke bottles there, too. Oh. So. Uh. That's pretty good isn't it. You guys are getting into it mo...
You can like, if you have grocery bags you can take them and use them instead of getting new ones. You mean where you sack your own groceries. Yeah. Yeah, but we don't have any place that collects the grocery bags. Huh. And I don't want to go with those canvas bags right now, I'm sorry. I'm not that European But you kn...
But, Uh. Well, what are you going to do when you get out of college? I'm a finance major. Well, that's why I did what I did. I went into teaching Here in Texas it's a real mess right now. Oh, really. Oh definitely. There's no. Let's see, we've had the funding, we've run out of money. We've frozen the money. Right? And ...
What do you think the outcome will be? I think they're maybe going to give us a state income tax. Do you have one? Yeah I'm not looking forward to it, but something's got to be done. Yeah. Oh yeah, we've had one as long as I can remember Well, it's going to hit us. Yeah And I don't know, doesn't seem like it work to ta...
Um, I can't think of anything on recycling. Me, either. Anything else? No. What about people from, um, Pennsylvania. What do they think about Texans? What do we think about them? Uh-huh. Oh, I don't know Have you thought about that? No, I never really thought about it what you think about Pennsylvanians. Probably a lot...
I've never been there, um. Well I've never, well let's see, I think I have too been to Pennsylvania. Gettysburg? Yeah. Yeah, we went up there. Now that I think about it. On one of our long trips we take off on. Uh-huh Oh, well Shboom. child in What are you saying, Holly? talking to Oh, my little girl is in the second g...
You know we've had a lot of the Jewish people ... Colorado Springs. Oh, right, up in, uh, T I out there? Yeah. Oh, right Did you hit one. Yeah. I just hit one then. All right. Uh, The savings and loan scandal. It, I, got to, uh, this is going to be fun. Are you Republican or Democrat? Uh, kind of neither. Okay, well, I...
I do have some Republican leanings, because, I am division one, you know Well, I, uh, to answer that one before we get to our subject, you know, I always get a kick out of Republicans who take credit for all the military hardware that was bought for the war and how successful it was, though when it comes to the budget ...
I can't remember who it was, but he was a small businessman, and he said that the banks were calling, he borrowed some money and the banks were calling and just looking for people to give their money away. They just got totally carried away with buying property and reselling the same property and, uh, yeah, there, ther...
even Murchison here, who owned the Cowboys, had a lot of property down in Florida. This was several years ago and he lost, you know, all, all of his money before he died. Yeah. Not all of it, I don't know how much he lost, but, uh, they were just buying property and buying all kinds of real estate and thinking that the...
and when you opened up the bank deregulation without any controls, I thought, well, that was the philosophy, you know. Just keep spending until taxes are lower, and, I thought, that's not going to work, you know, and I knew that it wasn't going to work originally. Well, And, it hasn't worked now. In theory, in theory, ...
and we weren't producing anything. Yeah. We, as Americans weren't producing anything. It was all inflation. Yeah. And, I'm sorry we don't get into a real argument over it, we agree too closely, but, But, you, you can't say that that was right. Yeah. I know, uh, Oh, no, I, No intelligent person can say that we could sp...
and I think that the, it, it still, a lot of the workers don't understand that, uh, they need to put out the best that they can because it comes right back to them, you know. It is a life and death struggle, with with the Japanese. Right. I know, and I, when I, of course I'm in facilities, and I work with a lot of mech...
You don't sound like a nonexempt. What, what does a nonexempt sound like? Uh, you're too informed. They're, they're very, they're very, uh, not interested. They wouldn't even talk probably about some of the things we're talking about now. Uh, I guess I'm dealing with too many Texas mechanics here. I don't know really. ...
right, I mean, that's good that you're degreed, uh, uh, your time will come. We, uh, I know a few people, No, I, I do not wish my time to come. Oh, really, what, are you in a tech, like do you do technician work or something? Oh, no, no, no. I, government tool control is my specialty now. I did P C protection control w...
Times are bad. Oh, yeah. Well, now, is, is, uh, really terrible. I'm, uh, management level uh, facilities, and when the cuts came, three of us got, uh, bounced back, and so we're just, uh, I'm calling you from work. I'm, I'm covering, uh, weekends and nights now. I'm, I'm one of the manager reps, there's three of us to...
Yeah. I don't care what the jobs are, you will not work. Yeah, it, it, And, and, as far as our, you know, our conversation goes, I would really be interested to know how much of T I's problems now are related to, the banking structure. Banking? I think that, not, not only T I, but a lot of it, when they talk about, uh,...
Uh, one of our senior, Course your value of homes up there are pretty good. I mean, here they're not really that high, but are they pretty good up there? No. Oh, really. Our economy in Colorado Springs fell completely apart. Well we're in the metroplex here, you know, and, uh, it, it, Right. I die every time companies ...
and also, uh, they do some of that in Wichita, Kansas. Well, I, I don't, they were advertising here that it was Bell, T I. T I was getting the, uh, electronics with Bell, and so, it was a double. One that Bell is in the Metroplex and two, that T I was doing the electronics for them. Huh. And, they, they advertised that...
and should the jury recommend, uh, sentencing. Uh-huh. Now my personal opinion, I don't know. Uh, uh, here lately it seems, well up until a few years ago, I guess, there just too many liberals about and permitting too many, oh, they just broaden the human rights to, to cover just about everybody, and I don't think thos...
I never have either. I wish I could have. I've just never been called up. My husband works as a police man, so I always assumed that that was why I was never called. Well now, that's possible. Uh-huh. But, uh, I was called up as an alternate once, but I never made it to the jury. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, do they have such a...
another question was, should a criminal case, should the jury be unanimous on their decision, and that I wasn't sure on either, whether it should be unanimous or not. Uh, well, there again, uh, I suppose it should be. That would mean they all would have to decide one way or the other. Exactly. Is it guilt or innocence....
We can't overlook the fact that there are innocent people that do get involved in jury trials. Un, apparently there are. I, I, I, since my husband worked as a policeman, I can't believe there are very many people that come to trial that have, are not guilty of something some part of whatever they're accused of. Uh-huh....
They still found him guilty? They found him guilty. When people said he was at work? Well, they said it this, this happened during lunch time. Uh-huh. And he could have gotten away at lunch time and committed the robbery. Uh-huh. Yeah. But after nine years, well as a matter of fact they made a T V show about it, after ...
we're, we bend over backwards protecting the guilty people, the one's that are on trial. Yes. And, And we often forget about the one the injustice has been done to, because I bet, they still say our system is the best in the world. Unfortunately, that's what happens. Well, it's not, the, uh, uh, it's not the best syste...
And, uh, uh, well that just rancles me no, I swear, if I ever saw somebody to, uh, burning a flag, I'd, I'd try to kill them, I would. That bad, huh. I wouldn't like it, but I don't know if I'd go that far. Well, I happen to be a flag freak. I served, I was in the service Uh-huh. I was in Korea Uh-huh. and, uh, well, I...
See how they'd like it under another flag. Right. They'd soon be back, I'm sure. Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, Jean, we seem to be of the same opinions here. Uh-huh. I hope they get something out of this. Yeah, I don't know about the judge making the decision, if that's, do you think that's good you know, like if a jury, Oh Uh-h...
That's what I was thinking they, they sometimes do. I don't know if that's a regular procedure or what. But I know I'm always hearing that, uh, well, the jury came in with a guilty verdict and they recommended, twenty years or something. And they recommend. Yeah. And then the judge has the final decision on what does ...
Uh-huh. A lot slip through the protective whatever they have to do. And there are bad ones that do slip back out and end up hurting somebody again. Yes. They just go out and repeat their crimes. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Well there, well, they say after three offenses its automatically life in prison, but I think they ought to m...
Uh-huh. Race or nationality even. Uh-huh, yeah. But, uh, like you said, it's, it's not the best system, but it's the best one we've got. Yeah, right. So, let's put up with it, I guess. Uh-huh. Improve it if we can, if we ever get a chance. Sure enough. So. Jean, it's been awful nice talking to you. Well, it's been nice...
Bye. Bye-bye. Okay. Where, where are you from? Um, just here in Dallas. Oh, okay Uh-huh. because I, uh, I talked to a professor in, uh, what was it, North Carolina, who got the, the T I system, and he gave to all his students. So, my daughter's even talked to, and I've talked to several people from North Carolina. I wa...
Yeah. I talked to the professor, and I asked him about it, and he said, Oh, he says, I think I'm the guy that, actually, uh, gave it to all my students. So that's why so many people are from this college. Go, ahead, Uh-huh. you, you first, Eve . Oh, okay. Um, well the subject we're supposed to be talking about, let's ...
Uh, my wife, uh, doesn't like to have all that work on the very day that you're doing it, uh, and we haven't catered out very much, uh, we, I always worry about the barbecue in that you have to be, the man always gets that chore, and you, have to make it perfect. Uh, I've made shish kabob, which I like. It's fairly eas...
What kind of meals did she make that you liked? Well, she was Polish and, uh, she would make very economical meals. We were very poor. Uh-huh. Different rice and ham and things that, uh, she would throw things together and galunkies and all that. Uh-huh. And, uh, I would like to try that one day. And she would make spa...
yeah. But, uh, that's, that's why I like the, the outdoor stuff a, a lot better. Yeah. People can entertain themselves, I think, a great deal more, uh, when you have a barbecue. Especially when you have hot dogs and hamburgers and, uh, you know, nothing really fancy, like your, your shish kabobs, where you have to do...
Right. Uh, you know, my mother used to make an Armenian rice dish. Uh-huh, yeah. I'm thinking about, uh, special dishes, and, uh, yeah, it was made out of rice and consume soup, uh, and bacon and onions. Oh, yeah. And then you'd simmer it like all day long. Right. Oh it would, You'd get the odor of it, yeah. Yeah. And ...
And that was, you know, when you were talking about the, the Polish dishes, uh, some goulashes and things like that. That's, uh, that's what I thought about, was that Armenian rice dish. Oh, yes, we probably ought to try this. But it probably will never taste as good as we remembered. I guess it gets better and better ...
Uh, something, my wife's from Texas, so, uh, I remember we were first married and we were living in New Jersey. And, uh, we were going over to my mother's house for Christmas, you know, to have a meal. Uh-huh. And we were on the way over, we were just married that very year, and she said, Oh, I'm looking forward to a n...
Uh-huh. And, uh, that was surprising in the, in the east, uh, we always had ham, you know. Right, right. and, and that's one thing that's another recipe, I guess, we could talk about. Now the hams just kind of, you know, go take it out of a can or, uh, uh, a package, sliced, uh, the cans were cooked for hours and hours...
have you seen, have you had any of those? No, I, I, uh, I've, I know about Sam's. My wife I think goes but, If, if you ever get a chance to buy one of those, I think it was, uh, twenty dollars, for, uh, I don't remember how many pounds it was. Uh-huh. But you cook it in the bag that they send it in. Oh, really? And all...
Uh, he delivers, uh. What is the name of this thing? I got a box, distributor, marked on it, it doesn't say, Gourmet Choices. But he, but it's a company that has, uh, you know, a truck that comes around. And, and they recently had hams. They have steaks and, and, uh, actually, pirogies and all that stuff that, uh, Uh-...
Wow! You know, that sounds like it. Yeah. But that's, that's the only ham I have found that I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoy. I would like to try the old recipe though, of cooking it, and, and I keep saying this, uh, to, to do the different things that we did. But I would like to put one in the oven, you know, the old fa...
That's an interesting point. How, how have you changed your, your meals now? Have you, into that, uh, Oh, yeah. looking at those things? Well, my parents actually started it, Uh-huh. and, uh, getting, Parents, that's unusual. Well, it, it's true. I think my parents are very unusual because, uh, we grew up in the south,...
And they started doing this, like in the early, or in about the middle seventies. Well, that's amazing, Uh, yeah. they'd go, that they have started. Usually it's the younger people doing it. Yeah. It's true, it's true. I agree with you. I, uh, my, my wife's mother is the only grandparent left, So, it's really neat. an...
And she just tells, more or less tells me to shut up, you know. Right And, uh, I like to, I'm trying to do something about my cholesterol in the same way. Uh-huh. Uh, Uh-huh. uh, it's, it's not the . I listen to, uh, Larry Newarth on the weekend. He's a fitness expert and, uh, he talks about, you know, the chicken and ...
Uh-huh. I, say if I have four eggs, not, not for me, but if I'm making four eggs, uh, even for my daughter and I, I'll take out all the yolks but one. Wow! And and it's fine. You, you don't miss it, uh. Huh. In fact, when I, when I make eggs for myself, if I, if I fry them, throw them in there, I will almost hard fry t...
My cholesterol gone down twenty points. So, although, Wow, that's good. I haven't gotten on the, which, whether butter or not cholesterol, margarine and all that. I don't know, know, whether any of that is true, you know Whether the margarines or butter, Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. What can we do about crime? I don't know. The...
And you just can't get away from it no matter where you live. Yeah. Well I, So it's pretty scary. I'm, I'm from Butler, and I can't say that there's too much of that there. Uh-huh. Um, I know the bigger cities have problems with it. Yeah. Uh, I really don't know what we can do about it. Yeah. Unless they start enforcin...
So that's definitely something. They could have a more automatic sentence instead of having the judge having the choice of like, you know, from one month to ten years or something Uh-huh. That would be one thing that, you know, I think could help is having the laws be changed so that they were more stiff penalties and ...
Wow. A lot of times the girls don't even report it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, I've heard of a few case up here, but I can't say that I've heard of, uh, you know, any significant amount. Yeah. Uh, but then again like you don't know how many girls are reporting them or not. Yeah. They say like only one in ten are reported. I...
I don't know, it seems like something else in terms of crime is certainly involved with drugs, you know. And that's like as long as, it almost makes me feel, in a way, like making drugs legalized just to get all the money out of it and not have, you know, because these kids are saying why should I go to high school and...
and it's definitely got to do with crime. You know, you hear about people selling their babies, you know, to get some crack. I mean, just, oh, gosh, horrible stuff like that. One of the things they're doing is, is they're prosecuting the women who are having these kids that are addicted to crack. Uh-huh. They said, uh,...
Okay. I can't say that I, I just know that it's really bad in some areas and something's going to have to be done sooner but, Yeah. I don't, I don't know what they can do. Yeah, yeah. It's frustrating. Uh-huh. Well, Okay. Well, thanks for talking. It was nice talking to you. Have a good day. You too. Bye. Bye, bye. Uh...
Uh-huh. I mean my husband's great. Oh, uh-huh. It's wonderful, you know, Yeah. and, and, uh, so I'm about forty and whatever, Uh-huh Around there, huh. So, yeah. Well, you're, you're just a youngster then Yeah, I'm just a spring chicken, I guess I passed the fifty. So, I guess our topic's going to be changes in the wo...
okay. Uh, you want to start off? Well, let's see, the changes I've seen in women's roles, uh, since I am in the forty age, I'm a fifties baby uh, Uh-huh. and from my mother's generation to my generation it's just a very, very wide, uh, it's been a big change. Very much, yeah, yeah. Very much, and I think you'll have to...
Yeah. You know, they come in that way. And, to make a change, you know, you have to make a splash. Uh-huh, uh-huh. But, to continue in that vein, I think it got a little bit warped and off the track in several areas, Uh-huh. but I really do think that women have made a contribution uh, to human beings, I mean to be hum...
But they don't have a national organization of men, to, uh, help them out No. and uh, what's changing them, though, is the economic situation, where both team, it has to be a team partnership now, Very much. Uh-huh. and they both have to work Uh-huh. and they both have to raise the children, if we're going to have a...
Yeah. I think they finally discovered that they don't want to be like men, men Not, no, they, they hurt themselves a little bit in that way. Absolutely, and so that's, you know, they sort of threw the thing back another, you know, ten years, that they've had to, you know, restructure, Uh-huh. but I saw the greatest T-...
we were biologically, physiologically, made differently and there is great wonderment, in that, and, uh, you know, we should respect that in each other so, Yes, it shouldn't be destroyed. Right. Yeah, yeah. And, and, you know, just sort of all swooshed into one channel sort of thing, Uh-huh, uh-huh. it's, it's viva la...
Yeah. Well that depends on what day of the month it is. Yeah But, uh, I don't know, I guess we've gotten more of a, in, in terms of that, I think we've got more of a sense of humor about each other and our roles, Uh-huh. and, but it's still a challenge being in a marriage and trying to figure out those roles and, I thi...
Yes, uh-huh. Our, Do you have children? I, we have five children, they're They're all grown and on their own Oh, my goodness. so, Oh, my. They're, uh, How did you do? Uh, how do you mean that? Well, I mean, okay, well did you have boys, girls, how did, how, Uh, we have, uh, two girls and three boys and our, our baby g...
Last week was her first baby. Oh, how exiting. So it's been real exciting. I, I tell you what. I don't know what I would do without my friends having all their kids. Uh-huh. I just love the babies Uh-huh. and, and since I'm sort of in a medical situation where I can't do that, it's, Yeah. Have you been that way long? J...
Uh-huh. but that's another story. Uh-huh. But, you know, my husband has really, really filled in the gaps, I mean I, I couldn't ask for a better life. That makes a big difference. Uh-huh. I mean if this is the way it had to be, this is the best way, I could possibly do it Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and, and that has a lot to do...
that's true. I mean, boy, I mean I, I would have had so, I had so much guilt to begin with and the changes that had to take place, you know, where I couldn't do a lot of things and, uh, just adjusting to that, that, uh, yeah, that was a major change, Uh-huh. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Uh-huh. but so, I guess uh,...
I think that's being damaged, uh, a lot. I think, we're going to see a generation of kids that, you know, are just going to be a little bit, uh, oh, not very nurturing. Uh-huh. I think, I do, too. I, I think, uh, now some, some women can, can do both. They're very capable of working and, and, Yeah, but I wish they we...
Absolutely. or they say they do anyways, and, but I think ones that don't have to, the, it's not as much of a stigma not to work as it was for a while there. Well, you know, I think that's, that's really, I think it depends on what part of the country you're in. Well, that could be. Uh, I, I would almost just say that ...
Right. but, Uh, you know, in terms of women staying home and being appreciated for their talents, uh, it's just like the way it, it has been for years. I mean, you know, since the days of the pioneers, around here. Right. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. That's the woman's role, Yes. and it, and it's hard for her to, uh, you know, ...
uh-huh, uh-huh. And so I see I little bit of that and I always wish there was a balance, you know, with the one and, and wish she could spend more time with her kids Uh-huh. and the other gal I wish she could just get out of Dodge, for a while Right. But they're both, Get some peace and quiet. Yeah, they're both diff...
That's so true. How, how did your daughter do it? Uh, well, uh, I have one daughter that works full-time. She has two little boys. Uh-huh. And, they seem to do fine. She has been has talked about quitting, you know, and staying home for a few years. But then, it's real hard because she's got an excellent job. Right. Uh...
It's a real good deal actually, if you charge a lot. So what we, what my wife and I have taken to doing is charging everything in sight. Anything we buy, we charge, including groceries and so forth. Huh-uh. So what we'll do is, Well, then you just pay it off at the end of the month? Right. We actually maintain a, we ha...
See, now I'd never get my wife to be able to follow that. Before we got married I had money in the bank. I owned my own home. I put in so much money, each, you know, month towards long term savings, you know, like in, uh, mutual funds and things, you know, Huh-uh. and, uh, after I got married, no, it just didn't work a...
Oh, really. In what field? Well, uh, in information systems. I'm a voice researcher. Oh, okay. I'm in, uh, psycholinguistics, actually. Huh-uh. Um, but my wife has a real job. Yeah. So does mine. Yeah What we do is, we take money out of her, out of her paycheck each week. Huh-uh. And put it, it goes directly to another...
It's going to be hard for her to, uh, not have her own money. Because, like now, you know, I put money in the bank and saved to go back to graduate school for two years. And now she wants to go back to school, but she saved enough maybe to get her through August. Oh. You know, and that's it. And I keep saying, now, Lau...
Now, see my wife will do things like make clothes. Wow. One of our, one of our big investments that, you know, I was wholeheartedly in favor of, was to buy a sewing machine. Because she makes clothes. And, you know, a descent sewing machine will really help her out and she's already made, you know, presents and gifts a...
Exactly, but that to her is sort of like a waste. Yeah. That's true. But she does her nails. So, I know, and those nails are so expensive Oh, gosh. I was so excited when she decided she wasn't going to do her nails anymore. I guess she just stopped polishing them because they were yellow. Yeah. And then she waits for t...
Yeah. And lotion, oh, my goodness, body lotion, Oh, yeah. we spend more on soft, on, on body lotions with sesame oil and all these different things, than, uh, she must spend more on one application of body lotion than I do on soap for an entire year. Yeah Good old Ivory Yeah. It's funny. Um, well, it's for your benefit...
Now do you still own a house? You said you owned one. I sold my house. And that's what's really paying for my time unemployed or whatever. Because the graduate assistantship really doesn't cover, the ten thousand dollars in tuition, really doesn't cover living expenses. Um, That's great. Right. we actually live in two ...
Wow. I think, we'll, do much better when we're living together and we're only paying one rent and one telephone. You know, it will cut our telephone bills, you know, by five, by four-fifths, you know, if she's here, Eventually, right. I mean you're not going to, Right. so it's actually tough this year, but it will be...
though I had my own house and things, you know, we still, uh, we're still pretty close. I knew her spending habits and they're about the same Oh, wow. they haven't changed at all, you know. My mother always said to me, "Tom, now, the best thing to do is be like you're father. Never say a word when you're wife spends mo...

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