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From: andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott) Subject: USENET Hockey Draft week 26 standings Organization: Hewlett-Packard, IDACOM Telecommunications Division Lines: 279 Here are the standings after the April 6 update. I'll be leaving for Japan in 1.5 hours, and I won't be back until April 17. Consequently, I will not post the week 27 results until April 18. Email sent between April 13 and April 18 will be processed using the numbers available April 18. - Andrew USENET Hockey Draft Standings Week 26 Posn Team Pts Proj Cash Last Posn 1. Dave Wessels 1478 1575.3 1.9 (1) 2. Gilles Carmel 1389 1533.8 56.3 (5) 3. Bob Hill 1418 1530.8 24.0 (2) 4. The Awesome Oilers 1366 1509.9 68.6 (3) 5. Seppo Kemppainen 1372 1508.9 47.2 (6) 6. Mak "The Knife" Paranjape 1376 1501.8 31.0 (4) 7. Hillside Raiders 1397 1490.7 7.0 (7) 8. Jan Stein 1354 1478.8 35.3 (9) 9. Rangers Of Destiny 1346 1472.5 42.0 (10) 10. this years model 1368 1471.8 17.6 (8) 11. Tapio Repo 1354 1461.0 19.6 (12) 12. FRANK'S BIG FISH 1341 1448.3 22.0 (14) 13. The Underachievers 1309 1446.5 65.4 (16) 14. On Thin Ice 1333 1445.5 32.3 (11) 15. Lindros Losers 1349 1436.9 1.7 (13) 16. littlest giants 1319 1435.7 35.6 (15) 17. Go Flames 1290 1422.6 64.4 (17) 18. Mopar Muscle Men 1328 1411.7 3.7 (19) 19. DIE Penguin Bandwaggoners 1304 1409.7 20.2 (18) 20. Samuel Lau (Calgary, Alberta) 1298 1383.2 4.9 (21) 21. General Accounting Office 1272 1373.8 20.9 (22) 22. Migods Menschen 1259 1367.0 31.6 (20) 23. Boomer's Boys 1285 1366.1 0.2 (23) 24. Delaware Wombats 1285 1356.2 1.3 (24) 25. Wellsy's Buttheads DEC NH 1223 1354.4 52.6 (27) 26. Rocky Mountain High 1270 1349.3 1.8 (29) 27. Fife Flyers 1232 1346.3 31.4 (26) 28. Gerald Olchowy 1231 1343.0 33.7 (25) 29. Fluide Glacial 1246 1338.5 18.0 (28) 30. Gaoler 1227 1318.3 11.2 (30) 31. SmegHeads 1238 1313.0 0.3 (32) 32. The Young And The Skateless 1185 1299.7 42.9 (31) 33. Artic Storm 1179 1291.8 39.3 (43) 34. Sam & His Dogs 1206 1289.0 11.6 (33) 35. Neural Netters 1199 1287.9 11.3 (35) 36. Youngbucs 1157 1286.6 101.7 (34) 37. Soft Swedes 1154 1275.3 46.9 (58) 38. Jeff Horvath 1188 1262.7 5.6 (39) 39. Yan The Man Loke 1180 1261.3 0.7 (40) 40. Milton Keynes Kings 1180 1259.6 2.8 (42) 41. Hamster from Hoboken 1178 1257.5 8.7 (36) 42. Le Fleur de Lys 1159 1257.3 25.3 (46) 43. ice legion 1157 1256.6 28.8 (37) 44. Simmonac 1133 1254.4 87.6 (44) 45. Kuehn Crushers 1137 1253.1 45.1 (72) 46. The Finnish Force 1149 1249.4 22.5 (48) 47. Streaks 1117 1247.1 54.8 (38) 48. Legion of Hoth 1156 1246.3 15.8 (52) 49. Goaldingers 1146 1240.6 22.0 (45) 50. Grant Marven 1155 1236.0 2.9 (50) 51. bemybaby 1161 1235.2 7.3 (49) 52. T C OverAchievers 1162 1232.8 2.9 (47) 53. Skriko Wolves 1151 1232.4 5.4 (53) 54. Bozrah Bruins 1117 1230.7 45.2 (41) 55. Brian Bergman 1132 1229.3 23.3 (51) 56. LIPPE 1132 1214.7 13.9 (65) 57. Randy Coulman 1140 1214.5 5.2 (56) 58. LAMP LIGHTERS 1138 1214.2 5.9 (66) 59. Dave Snell 1089 1212.5 182.5 (60) 60. Steven And Mark Dream Team 1133 1210.6 3.1 (53) 61. Houdini's Magicians 1126 1209.9 18.3 (59) 62. Real Bad Toe Jam 1096 1208.6 48.9 (63) 63. rec.sport.hockey choices 1137 1208.3 1.3 (63) 64. Iowa Hockeyes 1118 1205.7 16.3 (55) 65. buffalo soldiers 1085 1204.6 62.1 (57) 66. Indianapolis Bennies 1114 1200.6 20.8 (67) 67. Bloom County All Stars 1121 1199.2 4.3 (61) 68. Tom 1109 1194.0 13.1 (68) 69. Phil and Kev's Karma Dudes 1121 1192.6 0.8 (69) 70. AIK Exiles 1078 1188.1 34.5 (70) 71. Doug Bowles 1099 1186.4 20.0 (62) 72. Bruins 1117 1184.9 0.1 (75) 73. smithw 1095 1184.3 21.0 (71) 74. The Great Pumpkin 1057 1178.6 54.4 (73) 75. shooting seamen 1111 1177.8 0.1 (77) 76. Frank Worthless 1099 1176.6 6.3 (82) 77. NON! 1089 1175.7 16.4 (74) 78. Invisible Inc 1104 1173.5 1.1 (79) 79. Brad Gibson 1075 1169.0 27.2 (89) 80. Chubby Checkers 1074 1165.6 16.3 (85) 81. PLP Fools 1092 1164.8 0.1 (76) 82. John Zupancic 1063 1164.2 27.1 (78) 83. Staffan Axelsson 1082 1163.0 15.1 (80) 84. David Wong 1038 1162.5 66.1 (87) 85. Kortelaisen Kovat 1041 1160.7 164.1 (92) 86. Chocolate Rockets 1083 1158.9 2.5 (83) 87. Ken DeCruyenaere 1078 1158.8 5.0 (94) 88. Cougarmania 1061 1154.7 24.8 (86) 89. garryola 1073 1152.9 9.7 (81) 90. Derrill's Dastardly Dozen 1062 1149.6 22.1 (88) 91. No Namers 1033 1147.6 58.2 (91) 92. The Campi Machine 1022 1145.8 65.3 (90) 93. Gary Bergman Fan Club 1071 1145.1 5.1 (98) 94. Fisher Dirtbags 1073 1144.1 0.7 (93) 95. KODIAKS 1076 1141.0 1.3 (84) 96. Arsenal Maple Leafs 1066 1136.0 3.8 (99) 97. The Kamucks 1020 1134.1 76.1 (105) 98. BSC Oranienburg 1067 1132.1 7.1 (102) 99. Bloodgamers 1018 1127.1 42.1 (97) 100. Ellis Islanders 1055 1125.5 7.6 (100) 101. Mombasa Mosquitos 1053 1125.4 6.1 (95) 102. Edelweiss 1049 1122.8 2.9 (101) 103. Zachmans Wingers 1006 1117.7 49.8 (103) 104. Wormtown Woosbags 1001 1114.6 72.6 (96) 105. Dirty White Socks 1008 1113.6 43.4 (106) 106. Hurricane Andrew 1040 1113.5 7.6 (104) 107. Larry 1034 1113.2 11.8 (109) 108. VoteNoOct26 1010 1108.5 31.8 (108) Bruce's Rented Mules 1033 1108.5 11.9 (110) 110. King Suke 1042 1108.2 0.1 (112) 111. Teem Kanada 1030 1105.3 16.0 (115) 112. Bjoern Leaguen 987 1104.7 61.4 (123) 113. Frank's Follies 1020 1101.2 24.2 (117) 114. Neil Younger 985 1100.9 77.7 (120) 115. Het Schot Is Hard 1027 1100.8 18.1 (121) 116. PSV Dartmouth 1033 1100.7 7.1 (107) 117. Pond Slime 1034 1096.8 0.7 (111) 118. Stanford Ice Hawks 1008 1096.5 28.2 (114) 119. SPUDS 1019 1096.4 12.6 (113) 120. Mark Sanders 1020 1091.9 11.1 (116) 121. Oklahoma Stormchasers 1004 1089.9 28.3 (137) 122. Timo Ojala 1015 1084.2 0.3 (130) 123. Nesbitt 1025 1083.0 1.1 (118) 124. Aye Carumba!!! 1016 1082.4 3.9 (124) 125. Kokudo Keikaku Bunnies 976 1081.2 40.3 (119) 126. Blue Talon 1007 1080.0 13.3 (129) 127. Apricot Fuzzfaces 1001 1078.3 23.3 (125) 128. Haral 1013 1077.8 7.3 (122) 129. garys team 995 1076.5 17.1 (126) 130. Late Night with David Letterman 1013 1075.3 0.0 (133) 131. Arctic Circles 974 1075.2 37.6 (132) 132. The Lost Poots 1000 1072.9 6.7 (127) Seattle PFTB 988 1072.9 22.9 (134) 134. boutch 92-93 987 1071.5 20.0 (135) 135. Dirty Rotten Puckers 1001 1071.2 1.2 (147) 136. Flying Kiwis 998 1069.8 9.1 (130) Cluster Buster 996 1069.8 7.6 (136) 138. Scott Glenn 999 1068.7 10.2 (142) 139. Dree Hobbs 988 1068.5 13.4 (146) 140. GO BRUINS 999 1066.6 6.2 (144) 141. Le Groupe MI 975 1065.4 30.2 (141) 142. team gold 992 1065.1 16.7 (128) 143. Closet Boy's Boys 955 1063.4 48.0 (140) 144. Gary Bill Pens Dynasty 982 1063.2 19.6 (151) McKees Rocks Rockers 998 1063.2 5.1 (151) 146. Tim Rogers 987 1061.9 8.1 (148) 147. Andy Y F WONG 982 1061.1 21.5 (143) 148. Buttered Waffles 947 1059.6 46.0 (145) 149. Bob's Blues 951 1059.2 46.8 (139) 150. Princeton Canucks 945 1058.9 124.2 (154) 151. GO HABS GO 989 1058.7 8.0 (149) 152. Wembley LostWeekenders 998 1057.6 0.3 (157) 153. Wild Hearted Sons 993 1057.5 4.9 (138) 154. Einstein's Rock Band 994 1054.8 0.0 (160) 155. Tap 989 1053.0 0.5 (150) 156. Goddess Of Fermentation 964 1051.0 30.2 (156) 157. HUNTERS & COLLECTORS 945 1050.6 42.4 (163) 158. Dr Joel Fleishman 985 1048.7 3.7 (159) 159. furleys furies 983 1048.6 3.6 (153) 160. convex stars 979 1047.9 5.6 (161) 161. Les Nordiques 939 1046.9 60.4 (155) 162. MY TEAM 932 1045.3 174.8 (167) 163. Hubert's Hockey Homeboys 980 1043.9 0.6 (162) Book 'em Danno's Bushbabies 977 1043.9 10.5 (169) 165. riding the pine 956 1038.7 20.7 (158) 166. Sundogs 975 1037.1 0.4 (166) 167. Jeff Nimeroff 927 1037.0 48.8 (172) 168. Slap Shot Marco 930 1036.0 51.8 (164) 169. Daryl Turner 976 1035.8 2.4 (179) 170. The Dreamers 921 1033.1 63.7 (180) 171. East City Jokers 919 1031.6 69.1 (173) 172. Flowers 921 1031.4 113.6 (168) 173. Satan's Choice 961 1030.1 14.5 (171) 174. The Leafs Rule!!!! 943 1030.0 25.8 (165) 175. Pierre Mailhot 969 1029.9 2.6 (174) 176. voyageurs 968 1029.4 2.7 (170) 177. Spinal Tap 928 1029.1 41.4 (176) 178. San Jose Mahi Mahi 939 1026.7 31.8 (185) Stimpy ADG Zeta 949 1026.7 21.0 (182) 180. Jeff Bachovchin 916 1024.7 46.7 (175) 181. Bulldogs 941 1024.5 23.4 (184) 182. LANA Inc 940 1021.0 27.3 (177) 183. Big Bad Bruins 939 1020.6 18.5 (186) 184. Mike Mac Cormack Sydney NS CAN 904 1019.1 107.2 (183) 185. Darse Billings 925 1017.8 34.7 (178) 186. Chappel's Chumps 934 1017.6 24.0 (181) 187. JimParker 903 1014.5 179.0 (192) 188. Republican Dirty Tricksters 894 1008.0 66.0 (189) 189. Enforcers 924 1007.8 28.1 (191) 190. Absolut Lehigh 937 1007.7 8.9 (190) 191. Yellow Plague 933 1005.0 14.2 (187) 192. Dr.D And The S.O.D. 929 1003.8 17.1 (198) 193. Bunch of Misfits 916 1003.3 23.8 (188) 194. Ninja Turtles 942 1000.8 1.3 (194) 195. Great Expectations 934 999.3 2.3 (196) 196. Cherry Bombers 939 998.1 1.2 (200) 197. Henry's Bar B Q 941 998.0 0.7 (195) 198. Robyns Team 907 993.5 30.0 (198) 199. Team Melville 891 991.8 46.9 (202) 200. Umpire 4 life 919 990.9 11.1 (193) 201. Acadien 914 988.9 18.3 (197) 202. Kaufbeuren Icebreakers 894 988.2 37.6 (207) 203. Firebirds 926 986.5 3.9 (201) 204. Jayson's Kinky Pucks 904 986.1 26.9 (203) 205. Cobra's Killers 891 982.5 31.7 (208) 206. Outlaws 871 981.6 164.9 (206) 207. Kuta Papercuts 912 981.5 18.5 (204) 208. Killer Apes 902 979.9 24.3 (205) 209. DARMAN'S Dragons 896 979.4 28.3 (211) 210. Roger Smith 882 978.2 39.6 (212) 211. Those 1st few weeks hurt! 862 975.1 55.9 (210) 212. Thundering Herd 860 972.8 163.6 (218) 213. IKEA Wholesale 910 970.2 1.7 (214) 214. Believe it or dont 895 968.7 21.1 (215) 215. fred mckim 861 966.8 93.0 (217) 216. 400 Hurricane 880 966.4 32.1 (216) 217. Creeping Death 886 965.0 21.3 (220) 218. Knee Injuries 897 964.9 10.4 (213) 219. The 200 Club 902 964.7 6.8 (209) 220. Crazy Euros 888 962.1 17.9 (219) 221. Frack Attack 875 961.8 27.3 (226) 222. Todd's Turkeys 898 957.0 1.9 (229) 223. Ryan's Renegades 858 956.4 50.9 (225) 224. Cafall and Crew 862 955.9 38.3 (222) 225. pig vomit 894 955.2 1.3 (227) 226. Ice Strykers 848 954.4 105.4 (221) 227. Fighting Geordies 850 954.1 141.6 (223) 228. CDN Stuck in Alabama 886 945.7 10.3 (231) 229. Ship's Way 884 943.4 8.7 (233) 230. Swillbellies 870 942.8 18.7 (228) 231. Oz 851 941.8 35.0 (235) 232. Chris of Death 835 939.3 83.6 (234) 233. Banko's Beer Rangers 875 938.6 4.2 (230) 234. NY Flames 872 938.1 7.8 (232) 235. Laubsters II 828 937.4 201.6 (237) 236. dayton bomber 882 935.1 0.0 (241) 237. Zipper Heads 847 931.7 33.9 (224) 238. Ninja Bunnies 826 928.1 44.9 (236) 239. Joliet Inmates 832 926.0 45.8 (239) 240. Widefield White Wolves 832 924.1 36.9 (242) 241. Daves Team 834 920.9 32.0 (238) 242. Great Scott 814 917.8 73.3 (240) 243. South Carolina Tiger Paws 806 915.1 78.4 (243) 244. SANDY'S SABRES 854 910.8 4.7 (245) 245. Florida Tech Burgh Team 809 904.6 49.3 (250) 246. The Ice Holes 850 903.9 2.7 (246) 247. Leos Blue Chips 845 902.9 10.4 (244) 248. For xtc 837 897.8 8.2 (248) 249. roadrunners 826 895.9 18.5 (249) 250. Mudville Kings 816 894.0 27.6 (251) 251. Redliners 820 890.8 15.9 (253) 252. Pat Phillips 827 889.1 10.1 (247) 253. New Jersey Rob 835 883.0 0.7 (252) 254. Stewart Clamen 821 869.4 1.6 (255) 255. Demon Spawn 782 860.1 25.0 (254) 256. Sunnyvale Storm 772 813.5 0.2 (256) 257. Allez les Blues 713 810.7 476.9 (257) 258. Up For Sale Hockey Club 725 795.0 23.0 (260) 259. Petes Picks 689 788.1 168.5 (258) 260. RINACO 682 781.6 114.0 (259) 261. Brenz Revenge 669 718.5 4.0 (261) 262. Dinamo Riga 571 663.8 571.6 (262) -- Andrew Scott | andrew@idacom.hp.com HP IDACOM Telecom Operation | (403) 462-0666 ext. 253 During the Roman Era, 28 was considered old...
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From: jls@antares. (Jon Sweet) Subject: Re: X Windows for windows Organization: LESC/NASA/LaRC Lines: 11 Distribution: world Reply-To: jls@antares. NNTP-Posting-Host: antares.larc.nasa.gov PC-Xview from NCD, HCL-eXceed from Hummingbird Software! ================================================================ _| _/ _/ _/_/_/ _| All opinions expressed are _| _| _/ _/ _/ _| my own because nobody else _| _| _/ _/ _/_/_/ _| wants them! _| _| _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _| jls@antares.larc.nasa.gov _| _| _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _| Jon L. Sweet _| ================================================================
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From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) Subject: Do we need the clipper for cheap security? Organization: Partnership for an America Free Drug Lines: 53 amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) writes: >> The answer seems obvious to me, they wouldn't. There is other hardware >> out there not compromised. DES as an example (triple DES as a better >> one.) > >So, where can I buy a DES-encrypted cellular phone? How much does it cost? >Personally, Cylink stuff is out of my budget for personal use :)... If the Clipper chip can do cheap crypto for the masses, obviously one could do the same thing WITHOUT building in back doors. Indeed, even without special engineering, you can construct a good system right now. A standard codec chip, a chip to do vocoding, a DES chip, a V32bis integrated modem module, and a small processor to do glue work, are all you need to have a secure phone. You can dump one or more of the above if you have a fast processor. With integration, you could put all of them onto a single chip -- and in the future they can be. Yes, cheap crypto is good -- but we don't need it from the government. You can do everything the clipper chip can do without needing it to be compromised. When the White House releases stuff saying "this is good because it gives people privacy", note that we didn't need them to give us privacy, the capability is available using commercial hardware right now. Indeed, were it not for the government doing everything possible to stop them, Qualcomm would have designed strong encryption right in to the CDMA cellular phone system they are pioneering. Were it not for the NSA and company, cheap encryption systems would be everywhere. As it is, they try every trick in the book to stop it. Had it not been for them, I'm sure cheap secure phones would be out right now. They aren't the ones making cheap crypto available. They are the ones keeping cheap crypto out of people's hands. When they hand you a clipper chip, what you are getting is a mess of pottage -- your prize for having traded in your birthright. And what did we buy with our birthright? Did we get safety from foreigners? No. They can read conference papers as well as anyone else and are using strong cryptography. Did we get safety from professional terrorists? I suspect that they can get cryptosystems themselves on the open market that work just fine -- most of them can't be idiots like the guys that bombed the trade center. Are we getting cheaper crypto for ourselves? No, because the market would have provided that on its own had they not deliberately sabotaged it. Someone please tell me what exactly we get in our social contract in exchange for giving up our right to strong cryptography? -- Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com -- Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
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From: kimd@rs6401.ecs.rpi.edu (Daniel Chungwan Kim) Subject: WANTED: Super 8mm Projector with SOUNDS Keywords: projector Nntp-Posting-Host: rs6401.ecs.rpi.edu Lines: 9 I am looking for Super 8mm Projector with SOUNDS. If anybody out there has one for sale, send email with the name of brand, condition of the projector, and price for sale to kimd@rpi.edu (IT MUST HAVE SOUND CAPABILITY) Danny kimd@rpi.edu
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From: whit@carson.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore) Subject: Re: What do Nuclear Site's Cooling Towers do? Article-I.D.: shelley.1qngqlINNnp8 Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu In article <C5L5x0.KJ7@vcd.hp.com> johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton) writes: >-s87271077-s.walker-man-50- (swalker@uts.EDU.AU) wrote: >During the nuclear fission reaction the uranium fuel can get hot enough >to melt. When this happens the liquid uranium is pumped to the cooling >tower where it is sprayed into the air. Nonsense. First, the uranium fuel is sealed in zirconium alloy cylinders (which don't melt in any circumstances short of major failure of the power plant). Second, the primary water (that circulates inside the reactor core) is never pumped into the cooling tower (it's the SECONDARY water cycle that goes through the cooling tower). Third, liquid uranium would burst into flame on contact with air. >Contact with the cool outside air >will condense the mist and it will fall back to the cooling tower floor. >There it is collected by a cleaning crew using shop vacs and is then >reformed into pellets for reactor use the next day. Cleaning crew working in a mist of uranium? This is a toxic heavy metal, even if it WEREN'T radioactive. Shouldn't there be some smileys here? Or frowneys? John Whitmore
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From: adams@bellini.berkeley.edu (Adam L. Schwartz) Subject: Re: Seventh Century A.D. Armenian Math Problems Nntp-Posting-Host: bellini.berkeley.edu Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL Lines: 24 In article <1r6qn1INNd0n@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> koc@rize.ECE.ORST.EDU (Cetin Kaya Koc) writes: >> Problem 1 >> >> My father told me the following story. During the famous wars between the >> Armenians and the Persians, prince Zaurak Kamsarakan performed extraordinary >> heroic deeds. Three times in a single month he attacked the Persian troops. >> The first time, he struck down half of the Persian army. The second time, >> pursuing the Persians, he slaughtered one fourth of the soldiers. The third >> time, he destroyed one eleventh of the Persian army. The Persians who were >> still alive, numbering two hundred eighty, fled to Nakhichevan. And so, from >> this remainder, find how many Persian soldiers there were before the >massacre. >> > >Answer: a(1-1/2-1/4-1/11)=280 -> a = 1760 > I thought the implication was that the prince destroyed one fourth of the remaining Persian troops on the second round, and then 1/11 of those remaining on the third round. This would mean Answer: a*(1 - 1/2)*(1 - 1/4)*(1 - 1/11) = 280 --> a = 821.333
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From: dla@se05.wg2.waii.com (Doug Acker) Subject: Re: xterm build problem in Solaris2.1 Organization: western geophysical exploration products Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: se05.wg2.waii.com In-reply-to: dla@se05.wg2.waii.com's message of 16 Apr 1993 23:58:27 GMT >>>>> On 16 Apr 1993 23:58:27 GMT, dla@se05.wg2.waii.com (Doug Acker) said: Doug> NNTP-Posting-Host: se05.wg2.waii.com Doug> ..continuing on my build problems, I got stuck here build xterm... Doug> Undefined first referenced Doug> symbol in file Doug> index /usr/ucblib/libtermcap.a(termcap.o) Doug> rindex /usr/ucblib/libtermcap.a(termcap.o) Doug> ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xterm Actually .. the problem is that you have to build with LD_LIBRARY_PATH unset as well as LD_RUN_PATH. -- Douglas L.Acker Western Geophysical Exploration Products ____ ____ ____ a division of Western Atlas International Inc. \ \ / /\ / /\ A Litton / Dresser Company \ \/ / \ / / \ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \ / / \ / /\ \ Internet : acker@wg2.waii.com \/___/ \/___/ \___\ Voice : (713) 964-6128
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From: mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) Subject: Re: A KIND and LOVING God!! Organization: Royal Roads Military College, Victoria, B.C. Lines: 32 In article <sandvik-200493235610@sandvik-kent.apple.com>, sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes: |> In article <1993Apr20.143754.643@ra.royalroads.ca>, mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca |> (Malcolm Lee) wrote: |> > I understand and sympathize with your pain. What happened in Waco was a very |> > sad tradgedy. Don't take it out on us Christians though. The Branch |> > Davidians were not an organized religion. They were a cult led by a ego-maniac |> > cult leader. The Christian faith stands only on the shoulders of one man, |> > the Lord of Lords and King of Kings, Jesus Christ. BTW, David Koresh was NOT |> > Jesus Christ as he claimed. |> |> The interesting notion is that (I watched TV tonight) Koresh never |> claimed officially to be Jesus Christ. His believers hoped that |> he would be, but he never took this standpoint himself. |> |> He was more interested in breaking the seven seals of Revelation, |> and make sure that Armageddon would start. Well it did, and 19 |> children died, and no God saved them. |> |> Kent |> --- |> sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net. And does it not say in scripture that no man knows the hour of His coming, not even the angels in Heaven but only the Father Himself? DK was trying to play God by breaking the seals himself. DK killed himself and as many of his followers as he could. BTW, God did save the children. They are in Heaven, a far better place. How do I know? By faith. God be with you, Malcolm Lee :)
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) Subject: Re: Question: Arai Quantum-S Organization: AT&T Distribution: na Lines: 30 In article <C4zqEL.E9B@ms.uky.edu> amir@ms.uky.edu (Amir Sadr) writes: >they way I want it to. However, I have the following problem: My chin hangs >out from the bottom of the helmet. I am curious to know whether I would still >have this problem if I were to switch to the extra large size? In particular, >can anyone tell me "for certain", if the outer shell of the "Arai Quantum-S" in >size X-large is any different (larger-rounder-etc.) than the same helmet in size >large? Or if the inner padding/foam on the X-large is such that one's head >fits a little deeper in the helmet, and thus one's chin would not stick out? >This is true for the very old Arthur-Fulmer helmets that I have. Namely, my >chin hangs out a little from the bottom of the Large helmet, and not at all >from the X-large (but the X-large is not as snug as the large). The dealer >is willing to replace the helmet at no additional cost (i.e. shipping), but >I want to make sure that 1) the X-large is in fact a little bigger or linered >such that my chin will not hang out and 2) how much looser will my head fit in >the X-large? If anyone has recent experience with this helmet, please let me >hear (E-mail) from you ASAP. Thank you so much. Amir- I'm not sure about the helmet but for chin questions you might want to write to a: Jay Leno c/o Tonight Show Burbank Calif. Good luck. ================================================================================ Steatopygias's 'R' Us. doh#0000000005 That ain't no Hottentot. Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. AMA#669373 DoD#564. There ain't no more. ================================================================================
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From: vanderby@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Vanderbyl) Subject: Re: Power, signal surges in home... Nntp-Posting-Host: chip Reply-To: vanderby@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Vanderbyl) Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd. Lines: 10 drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand) writes: > Hams can legally run up to 1500 watts. It is very unlikely, however, > that a ham would be running that kind of power from a car. > >Not possible either. You'd need about a 300 amp alternator for >just the amplifier. It is too possible. As the original poster said "it is very unlikely" but definately possible. (Can you say batteries?)
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From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> Subject: Re: <Political Atheists? Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK. X-Newsreader: rusnews v1.01 Lines: 11 mccullou@snake2.cs.wisc.edu (Mark McCullough) writes: > I think you mean circular, not recursive, but that is semantics. > Recursiveness has no problems, it is just horribly inefficient (just ask > any assembly programmer.) Tail-recursive functions in Scheme are at least as efficient as iterative loops. Anyone who doesn't program in assembler will have heard of optimizing compilers. mathew
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: [lds] Gordon's Objections Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 38 In article <C5rp8K.Kw2@acsu.buffalo.edu> psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) writes: >Gordon Banks quoted and added... > >gb> In article <C53L1s.D61@acsu.buffalo.edu> >gb> psyrobtw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) writes: >gb> >gb> >The Mormon Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer. That Jesus is God >gb> >the Father's first born spirit child. That Jesus was begotten on earth >gb> >through natural means, not by the Holy Ghost. That He sweat His blood >gb> >for our sins in the Garden of Gethsemane. That His blood cannot >gb> >cleanse from all sin. That He is now among many millions of other >gb> >gods. That Jesus is Jehovah and the Father is Elohim (in the OT >gb> >Jehovah and Elohim are the same). That He needed to be saved. >gb> It is true that Mormons believe that all spirits (including Jesus, Lucifer, Robert Weiss) are in the same family. It does not mean that Jesus was created, but rather that Lucifer and Robert Weiss were not. I agree that this is a "heresy". So what? The sweating of blood in Gethsemene is not a basic Mormon doctrine. Jesus did not perform the atonement in Getheseme alone, as some anti-Mormons are trying to teach. As far as the "unpardonable sin" whatever that is, it is Biblical, and not specifically Mormon. It is also called the sin against the Holy Ghost. Most Bible scholars (other than conservative ones) do not believe Jehovah and Elohim were always the same. I'm sure you've heard of the J and the E texts? I don't know what you mean by "That He needed to be saved". Jesus? Jehovah? Elohim? In Mormon doctrine, Jesus was sinless, and thus did not "need to be saved". -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: kenh@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Ken Hillen) Subject: RF data transmission Article-I.D.: sail.13601 Distribution: usa Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or. Lines: 10 I need a off-the-shelf method of transmitting small amounts of data up to 300 feet. The data is low speed and can be encoded as needed. Low power on the transmitting end would be a plus. An FCC certified product would be prefered. If you have any pointers to products or companies I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, Ken
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From: carl_f_hoffman@cup.portal.com Subject: 1993 Infiniti G20 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 26 I am thinking about getting an Infiniti G20. In consumer reports it is ranked high in many catagories including highest in reliability index for compact cars. Mitsubushi Galant was second followed by Honda Accord). A couple of things though: 1) In looking around I have yet to see anyone driving this car. I see lots of Honda's and Toyota's. 2) There is a special deal where I can get an Infinity G20, fully loaded, at dealer cost (I have check this out and the numbers match up). They are doing this because they are releasing and update mid-1993 version (includes dual air-bags) and want to get rid of their old 1993's. I guess my question is: Is this a good deal? Also, Can anyone give me any feedback on Infiniti? Thanks, Carl Hoffman P.S. The other cars that I have test driven and which are in the running are: Mitsubishi Galant, Honda Accord, and Toyota Camary
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From: wchutt@alex.monsanto.com (Bill C Hutton) Subject: MR2 Car Cover For Sale Organization: Monsanto Company X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5 Lines: 19 For Sale: Fitted car cover specifically for '91',92,'93 MR-2. Top of the line Evolution-3 [TM] fabric. Used for less than 6 months. The cover is in excellent condition-no rips, cuts, stains or other blemishes. It has grommets for a locking cable. The color is silver. Price: $90 f.o.b. will ship collect please contact wchutt@monsanto.com or phone at 314 576 3798 after 6 pm CDT
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From: pochanay@cae.wisc.edu (Adisak Pochanayon) Subject: 24-pin Printer For Sale as well Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison Lines: 35 I have a 24-pin printer which is an ALPs Allegro24. It's both a fast printer with LQ and a very sophisticated design. It has a straight paper path and the capability of auto-forwarding sheets to tear off and then back (a big paper saver as you never have to waste sheets to get a current print out). It can also handle single sheets without removing the formfeed and has sophisticated preferences options (you can interactively program all the preferences to control the printer and get printed feedback without ever using a computer). You get prompts and menus to pick your current setup and default set up. This was THE top of the line LQ dot matrix when I bought it three years ago for $399. It is also Epson LQ2500 compatible (besides it's own modes) and comes with IBM driver software (which I've never used since I own an Amiga). Has a card slot for upgrading memory or fonts. I'll let it go for $150 including shipping prepaid. COD orders must pay all shipping and COD costs. Adisak Pochanayon - 608-238-2463 ------- Also a light gun and UFORCE controller for Nintendo but with PD driver software to use them on the Amiga. The light gun is fully remote (no wires). Best offer over $75 ($30 less than my cost and they are both brand new). ---------------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- Jeez!!! It never fails, get in the tub and there's a rub at the lamp! -- The Genie from Aladdin. pochanay@cae.wisc.edu eddie (Adisak) Pochanayon Check out all of SilverFox SoftWare's Releases.... your Amiga entertainment. ---------------------------------- CUT HERE ----------------------------------
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) Subject: Re: wife wants convertible Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 25 nuet_ke@pts.mot.com (KEITH NUETZMAN X3153 P7625) writes: >HELP!!! >my wife has informed me that she wants a convertible for her next car. >We live in South Fla., so we are definitely in the right are for one. >My wife has mentioned the Miata, but I think it is too small. >I would like to wait for the new Mustangs ( Dec. '93 I think). >Anyone have any opinions on any/all convertibles in a reasonable price range. > Thanx The Olds Supreme Convertible got high marks in C/D's recent test, if you can get by the stupid body moldings and stuff. The Saab 900 ragtop may be out of your range, but its a good choice. Is there a new F-car convertible? The Nissan 240SX convertible is a nice car also... Those immediately come to mind... -- Chintan Amin <The University of Illinois UrbanaChampaign> mail: llama@uiuc.edu ******************************Neil Peart, (c)1981***************************** *"Quick to judge, Quick to Anger, Slow to understand, Ignorance and Prejudice* *And********Fear********Walk********************Hand*********in*********Hand"*
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From: rstevew@armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) Subject: Re: How many homosexuals are there? Organization: The Armory Lines: 68 In article <1993Apr5.050127.22304@news.acns.nwu.edu> dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier) writes: >In article <1993Apr4.011042.24938@isc-br.isc-br.com> steveh@thor.isc-br.com >(Steve Hendricks) writes: >>In article <1993Apr3.211910.21908@news.acns.nwu.edu> >>dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier) writes: >>>... >>>If someone beats up a homosexual, he should get charged for assault and >>>battery. Why must we add gay bashing to the list? Isn't this a sort of >>>double jeopardy? Or am I just being a fascist again? >> >>() To deter an epidemic of "gay bashing" that has not been deterred by >> assault laws. > >So we ought to make beating up a homosexual more illegal than beating up a >straight? Silly me, thinking that the issue was that we are all people, to be >treated equally. Thanks for straightening me out. ------------------------------ Wrong, if a bunch of faggots from the tenderloin decide to go straight bashing and they selectively target a heterosexual man and beat the bloody fuck out of him, they would get charged as well under all the federal laws that exist about violation of civils rights. The focus of their intent is his sexual orientation, and so the law applies to them as well. The national government retains the right to make any laws necessary to sufficiently deter and punish any crime against someone's civil rights until that behavior becomes so well punished that nobody even tries it! The fact is, that at last count, gays were not beating straights for their sexual orientation. Thus, the law is getting applied only to the straights who indulge themselves. The federal government or judiciary has the right to enforce the 14th amendment guarantee of equal protection under law even if it takes 1000 possible charges against people who would violate them. Go read your constitutional law. We broke the back of the KKK's harrassment campaign with the same strategy in the early 1900's. So many went to jail and for so long that it cut the heart out of the KKK. -RSW >>() No, it is not "double jeopardy." A single act may lead to multiple >> charges and multiple crimes. > >I think what you meant to say here was, "With the current mutation of the US >Constitution under the current police state, someone may be charged multiple >times for one act if the victim in question is of the right shade." A single >act should never merit more than on charge. That's almost like if four cops >got acquitted from cruel and unusual punishment charges, and the country went >and tried them again and again until they... oh.... never mind. ---------------------------------------- This "mutation" as you call it, protects your little butt too, if you happen to be somewhere where you're the wrong "shade" for somebody else's taste. If it can be shown that the motive for the assault on you was racially motivated, then the full power of these extra laws that bring more charges and punishments will come against those who harmed you. The first use of such laws was well over a hundred years ago, and constitutional scholars of all conviction recognize that this right reserved to the federal government is well established and not just some short-lived peculiarity, too! Go read some constitutional law for awhile. Maybe you'll get it. -RSW >Douglas C. Meier >dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu -------------------------- -- * Richard STEVEn Walz rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (408) 429-1200 * * 515 Maple Street #1 * Without safe and free abortion women are * * Santa Cruz, CA 95060 organ-surrogates to unwanted parasites.* * * Real Men would never accept organ-slavery and will protect Women. *
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From: gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone) Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!! Reply-To: glenns@eas.gatech.edu Distribution: git Organization: The Group W Bench Lines: 36 In <C5sv4r.HFA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes: [and quotes a lot of stuff unnecessarily] >In article <93869@hydra.gatech.EDU> glenns@eas.gatech.edu writes: >> >> [worth posting again ;-] >>Hey, gang, it's not about duck hunting, or about dark alleys, >>it's about black-clad, helmeted and booted troops storming >>houses and violating civil rights under color of law. >> >>Are YOU ready to defend YOUR Constitution? >Its also about crazy fatigue clad survivalist types blasting the >snot out of people who accidentally stray onto his land in the >name of 'self defense.' >Don't get too self-righteous, Mr. gun-toter. Ain't got a pair of fatigues... and I don't blast people wandering aimlessly, I ask them what they're doing there... I only blast people who display obvious violent intent... like black-clad men with weapons climbing thru second-story windows, or people who break down the door instead of knocking. Or people who knock my house down with tanks and set it afire. Sound familiar yet? Riddle me this: Why the hell are the CONVICTED CRIMINALS in Ohio getting the kid glove treatment, and the BD's are burned alive without a trial? Put aside who started the blaze, I still think any decent shyster can make a case for cruel and unusual punishment, playing the sounds of tortured rabbits over the loudspeakers (where's the SPCA in all this?)... Oh, and that's Mister gun-toter SIR to you, bucko. Just because you choose to abandon your rights, leave mine the hell alone, thankyouverymuch. Glenn R. Stone (glenns@eas.gatech.edu) Impeach Clinton, Reno -- the case is prima facie.
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From: csk@wdl50.wdl.loral.com (Chuck Kuczaj) Subject: Re: MOTORCYCLE DETAILING TIP #18 Organization: Loral Western Development Labs Lines: 26 mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington) writes: >Don't you just hate when the speedo and tach on your >bike start to cloud over from all that nasty sunshine? >The detailing tip of the week is to use rubbing compound. >Moisten a rag, apply some rubbing compound and work into the >translucent, previously transparent, material. After a few >minutes of working on the plastic face, the dial, or plastic >face will be clear once more. Will not work for glass. >-- >BTW. I am not responsible for damages incurred when using > the above method. Most models can use the treatment > safely. >============================================================================= >= The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:9733= >= Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65Sabre = >= (-> 1994 GTS1000 ...can't afford the '93) | mbeaving@bnr.ca = >============================================================================= McGuire's makes a plastic scratch/removing compound and a plastic polishing compound which really work great as well.
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From: ah301@yfn.ysu.edu (Jerry Sy) Subject: how to boot from ext HD on power on ? Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH Lines: 12 Reply-To: ah301@yfn.ysu.edu (Jerry Sy) NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu I have an external hard drive I wish to use as startup disk. problem is, when I switch on the mac, it boots on the internal HD, but when I restart (warm boot) the mac, it boots from the external. how do I make it boot directly from the external ? please email replies if possible. thanks in advance. jerry
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From: dwarner@sceng.ub.com (Dave Warner) Subject: Sabbatical (and future flames) Summary: I'm outta here Lines: 32 Nntp-Posting-Host: 128.203.2.156 Organization: Ungermann-Bass SSE So, I begin my 6 week sabbatical in about 15 minutes. Six wonderful weeks of riding, and no phones or email. I won't have any way to check mail (or setup a vacation agent, no sh*t!), though I can dial in and get newsfeed, (dont ask), so if there are any outstanding CFC's or such things,please try my compuserve address: 72517.3356@compuserve.com Anybody wants to do some WEEKDAY rides around the BA, send me a mail to above or post here. I'll be thinking about all of you stuck if front of your terminals......"Sheeyaahhh, and monkeys might fly out of my butt..." ride safe, dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sense AIN'T common.... Dave Warner Opinions unlikely to be shared AMA 687955/HOG 0588773/DoD 870 by my employer or anyone else dwarner@sceng.ub.com _Signature on file_ dwarner@milo.ub.com 72517.3356@compuserve.com '93 FXSTS '71 T120 (Stolen) -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) Subject: Re: Cultural Enquiries Organization: University College of Wales, Aberystwyth Lines: 39 Nntp-Posting-Host: 144.124.112.30 In article <Stafford-310393095530@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford) writes: >In article <1993Mar17.115603.28712@aber.ac.uk>, azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy >Woodward) wrote: >> >> Two questions that fascinate me:- > You are easily fascinated. > >> 1) Why are rednecks called rednecks? > Why are you called a Welch? > OK, it's because they are often south or southeastern farmers > who's necks are permanently damaged from sunburn. The sun; > you know what that is, it never sets on the British Empire > and never shines in Wales. > This is a despicable LIE! It was sunny on 3rd July 1958 from 11.23am to 11 37am. I made a note of it. Diaries are never wrong. >> 2) Why do they ride Harleys? > They don't. They drive in pick-up trucks and shoot bikers. > >> Please enlighten me. When I visited last, the only answers I got >> were incoherent splutterings. > You deserve more? > >==================================================== >John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona > All standard disclaimers apply. Do you, by any chance ride a Harley? (just a feeling...) How is your neck? Calamine lotion is good, I'm told. I am getting bored with winding up Americans. Its like bombing fish in a barrel. Haaaaaaaaaaave a Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Andy
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From: melons@vnet.IBM.COM (Mike Magil) Subject: Re: Final Solution in Palestine ? Lines: 89 > >O.K., its my turn: > > DRIVING THE JEWS INTO THE SEA ?! > >I am sick and tired of this 'DRIVING THE JEWS INTO THE SEA' sentance attributed >to Islamic movements and the PLO; it simply can't be proven as part of their >plan ! > May I suggest you chech out the _Palestinian National Covenant (1964)_. It may not use the exact words as quoted above but I'm sure many will agree that the same message is being issued. Later on when I get back home I will try to find the precise section(s) but you can do the research for now (I hope). I also realize that Yasser Arafat renounced the _Covenant_ *to the Western media only* but he has yet to inform the PNC officially and enequivocally of his exact intentions on this issue. Therefore, as far as we are concerned the _Covenant_ still stands as the "Bible" (so to speak) of the mainstream Palestinian National movement! >(Pro Israeli activists repeat it like parrots without checking its authenticity >since it was coined by Bnai Brith) As a staunch pro-Israel activist I can confidently say that Bnai Brith has NOT influenced my opinions on the Arab-Israeli conflict. As I mentioned above, just a little research on the subject will lead anyone to reach a similar conclusion on the Palestinian National movement (the PLO in most cases). BB does not properly speak for me nor many of the people around me who share my views. > >What Hamas and Islamic Jihad believe in, as far as I can get from the Arab media, >is an Islamic state that protects the rights of all its inhabitants under Koranic >Law. This would be a reversal of the 1948 situation in which the Jews in >Palestine took control of the land and its (mostly Muslim) inhabitants. > What 1948 situation? A negative situation I presume? Is this the same "situation" when the Jordanian occupiers of East Jerusalem would not allow the Jews to go worship at the HOLIEST SITE IN JUDIASM? Was this an example of Qu'ranic law being exercised? If not, I have another suggested reading for you... get into the "soc.culture.arabic" newsgroup where the posters have been debating the topic "Jews in the Qu'ran" (and may I remind you the people doing the debating appear to be devout Muslims with some knowledge of the Qu'ran). You will find that Jews aren't really viewed positively by the Qu'ran (to put it lightly). So how do you think Jews (or any other non-Islamic religion) will be treated by an Islamic state governed by the words of the Qu'ran? I think the 1948-1967 "situation" in Jerusalem will return *at best*! What do you think? >However, whoever committed crimes against humanity (torture, blowing up their >homes, murders,...) must be treated and tried as a war criminal. The political >thought of these movements shows that a freedom of choice will be given to the >Jews in living under the new law or leaving to the destintion of their choice. All I have to say to that is, once again, see s.c.a - "Jews in the Qu'ran" and think again. "Freedom of choice" is *definitely* not an option in Qu'ranic law especially for non-Muslims and ALL women! Remember the Gulf War? I'm sure you saw the reports about how women had few rights in Saudi Arabia (an Islamic state). > >As for the PLO, I am at a loss to explain what is going inside Arafat's mind. > Probably nothing! Aside from how to break the news to his Palestinian brethren that the _Covenant_ is "null and void" without getting assassinated himself! >Although their political thinking seems far fetched with Israel acting as a true >super-power in the region, the Islamic movements are using the same weapon the >Jews used to establish their state : Religion. > In conclusion, Ahmed, you should go to the library and find the _Palestinian National Covenant (1964)_ and read it VERY CAREFULLY. By the way, Redpath Library DOES have it in stock because that is exactly where I found it when I was doing my research. So enjoy the reading and I hope we will be hearing back from you soon! - Mike --- MI KE MIK EMIK EMI K "Opinions expressed above M I K E M I K E M are my own and not that M I K E MIKEM I KEM I K of 'Big Blue'" M I K E M IKE M IKE MIKE IBM Corp., Toronto, Canada
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From: mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum) Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip) Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc. Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.tis.com >I mean, if we can imagine the >machine that does 1 trial/nanosecond, we can imagine the storage medium >that could index and archive it. I think you'd have to do some massive data compression just to fit a bit of key information on each primary particle of the known universe. But, hey, it's fun to imagine. mjr.
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From: wquinnan@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Malcusco) Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes? Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 59 In article <Apr.16.23.18.04.1993.1876@geneva.rutgers.edu> rob@ll.mit.edu writes: >I think it was Lewis who said that in a wedding, it's the principals >that marry each other; the church and the state are present merely as >witnesses. > >[This is not just Lewis -- it's a summary of standard Catholic >theology. However this doesn't mean that the presence of those >witnesses is optional, except in odd situations like the standard >desert island. --clh] I originally wrote to the person who asked this question personally, but decided to post the information I had on the topic. I spoke to the pastor of my parish (Catholic) recently, by coincidence, on this subject. His explaination was that while it is possible for a couple to marry without the presence of a priest, it is important to have it recognized by the Church as soon as it is possible. Because the Church recoginizes itself as a community of believers, members of the church, to some degree, are to be held accountable to each other. To be less hypothetical than that mythical couple on the desert island, there are many places in the world that do not have priests availible for marriages on a regular basis. Therefore, couples get married without the priest being present, but get the priest to testify to their marriage when one comes through the area. I remember a religion teacher in high school saying that the marriage ceremony is not for the benefit of the couple as much as it is for the benefit of the community. Thus, married couples have some responsibility to the community to stay married, as divorce sets a bad example for the community. Also, the couple has vowed to become one with one another--the community should be able to rely on that couple to be as one. While couples may marry without witnesses, they may NOT get anulments without a priest present. An anulment is simply an admission of the church that what they had declared a marriage was not, in fact, a marriage at all, for whatever reason. So don't start getting married in the back seat of a station wagon and giving yourselves anulments a half-hour later!! I tend to agree with the response back there that said couples become married as soon as they consumate their marriage, but I would add that couples should consider their marriage consumated if they have sex, whether or not they intended to be married, assuming they were both willing partners to the sexual act. The couple must be prepared to raise any children they may have as a result of that sexual act with the benefit of both parents. Sex IS a commitment, I believe, in God's eyes. But I'm digressing.... God be with you, Malcusco
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: My New Diet --> IT WORKS GREAT !!!! Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 17 In article <1993Apr13.093300.29529@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes: > >"Weight rebound" is a term used in the medical literature on >obesity to denote weight regain beyond what was lost in a diet >cycle. There are any number of terms which mean one thing to Can you provide a reference to substantiate that gaining back the lost weight does not constitute "weight rebound" until it exceeds the starting weight? Or is this oral tradition that is shared only among you obesity researchers? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: montuno@physics.su.OZ.AU (Lino Montuno) Subject: CPU Temperature vs CPU Activity ? Nntp-Posting-Host: physics.su.oz.au Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia Lines: 8 This may be a very naive question but is there any basis for the claim that a CPU will get hotter when a computationally intensive job is running? My friend claims that there will be little difference in the temperature of an idle CPU and a CPU running a computationally intensive job. Lino Montuno
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From: Thomas Kephart <kephart@snowhite.eeap.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: Interesting ADB behaviour on C650 Organization: Case School of Engineering Lines: 29 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: b62182.student.cwru.edu X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d20 X-XXMessage-ID: <A7F350070401F2E6@b62182.student.cwru.edu> X-XXDate: Thu, 15 Apr 93 17:46:47 GMT In article <16BB1A4DF.DJCOHEN@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> Daniel Cohen, DJCOHEN@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes: >>I've noticed an interesting phenomenon on my Centris 650. If I unplug the >>keyboard and mouse and plug them in again without turning the power off, >>the mouse suddenly switches to about half its normal movement speed. I >>check the "Mouse" control panel, and there's no change in its setting >>there--it's still on full speed, the way I like it. Restarting the machine >>restores the normal mouse speed. >> >>By the way, it happens with both the newer-style mouse that came with the >>Centris, and the older-style mouse from my IIfx at work. Thus I don't think >>it has anything to do with the resolution setting in the mouse--it's >>definitely a quirk of the ADB interface (either hardware or software) in >>the Centris itself. >I have noticed this exact same phenomenon occurs with my LCIII. Perhaps it >is a quirk of the new machines? Sorry, but mine works fine (C650) My 2 cents worth...
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From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) Subject: WC: Scores and standings, April 18 Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 71 Nntp-Posting-Host: uipc104.ericsson.se 1993 World Championships in Germany: ==================================== Group A standings (Munich) Group B standings (Dortmund) -------------------------- ---------------------------- GP W T L GF-GA P GP W T L GF-GA P Sweden 1 1 0 0 1-0 2 Germany 1 1 0 0 6-0 2 Italy 1 0 1 0 2-2 1 Czech republic 1 0 1 0 1-1 1 Russia 1 0 1 0 2-2 1 USA 1 0 1 0 1-1 1 Canada 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 Finland 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 Switzerland 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 France 0 0 0 0 0-0 0 Austria 1 0 0 1 0-1 0 Norway 1 0 0 1 0-6 0 April 18: Italy - Russia 2-2 Norway - Germany 0-6 Sweden - Austria 1-0 USA - Czech republic 1-1 April 19: Canada - Switzerland 15:30 Russia - Austria Finland - France 20:00 April 20: Sweden - Canada Czech republic - Germany 15:30 Switzerland - Italy Finland - USA 20:00 April 21: Germany - France 15:30 Italy - Sweden Czech republic - Norway 20:00 April 22: Switzerland - Russia USA - France 15:30 Austria - Canada Norway - Finland 20:00 April 23: Switzerland - Austria Germany - Finland 20:00 April 24: Russia - Sweden Czech republic - France 15:30 Canada - Italy USA - Norway 20:00 April 25: Sweden - Switzerland Finland- Czech republic 15:30 Russia - Canada Germany - USA 20:00 April 26: Austria - Italy France - Norway 20:00 PLAYOFFS: ========= April 27: Quarterfinals A #2 - B #3 15:30 A #3 - B #2 20:00 April 28: Quarterfinals A #1 - B #4 15:30 A #4 - B #1 20:00 April 29: Relegation A #5 - B #6 15:30 A #6 - B #5 20:00 April 30: Semifinals A #1/B #4 - A #3/B #2 15:30 A #4/B #1 - A #2/B #3 20:00 May 1: Relegation 14:30 Bronze medal game 19:00 May 2: FINAL 15:00 -- ((\\ //| Staffan Axelsson \\ //|| etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se \\_))//-|| r.s.h. contact for Swedish hockey
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From: frode@dxcern.cern.ch (Frode Weierud) Subject: Magstrip Card Reader Info Keywords: Magstripe, Card Reader, American Magnetics, Magnetics Reply-To: frode@dxcern.cern.ch Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Lines: 26 Can somebody please help me with information about an American Magnetics Corporation Magstripe Card Reader that I recently bought locally from a surplus dealer. On the rear it has the following information: American Magnetics Corporation Carson, CA, USA Magstripe Card Reader Model 41, P/N 507500 - 2300112311 It is fitted with a cable with a RS232 Cannon 25-pin connector on the end and has a separate power connector like the once used with wall chargers. Frode ************************************************************************** * Frode Weierud Phone : 41 22 7674794 * * CERN, SL Fax : 41 22 7823676 * * CH-1211 Geneva 23 E-mail : frode@dxcern.cern.ch * * Switzerland or weierud@cernvm.cern.ch * **************************************************************************
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From: steveg@cadkey.com (Steve Gallichio) Subject: Re: This year's biggest and worst (opinion)... Keywords: NHL, awards Article-I.D.: access.1pstuo$k4n Organization: Cadkey, Inc. Lines: 53 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Bryan Smale (smale@healthy.uwaterloo.ca) writes: > I was thinking about who on each of the teams were the MVPs, biggest > surprises, and biggest disappointments this year. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Team Biggest Biggest > Team: MVP: Surprise: Disappointment: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hartford Whalers Sanderson Cassells Corriveau My votes (FWIW): Team MVP: Pat Verbeek. He fans on 25% of goal mouth feeds, but he still has 36 goals after a terrible start and has been an examplary (sp?) team captain throughout a tough couple of seasons. Honorable mention: Nick Kypreos and Mark Janssens. Probably more appropriate in the unsung heroes category than MVP, but Kypreos (17 goals, 320+ PIM) has been the hardest working player on the team and Janssens is underrated as a defensive center and checker. I guess I place a greater emphasis on hard work than skill when determining value. Biggest surprise: Geoff Sanderson. He had 13 goals and 31 points last season as a center, then moved to left wing and has so far put up 45 goals and 80+ points. He now has a new Whaler record 21 power play goals, most all coming from the right wing faceoff circle, his garden spot. Honorable mention: Andrew Cassels and Terry Yake. The kiddie quartet of Sanderson, Poulin, Nylander, and Petrovicky have been attracting the most attention, but Cassels is just 23 and will score close to 90 points this season. He has quite nicely assumed the role of number one center on the team and works very well with Sanderson. Yake bounced around the minors for a number of seasons but is still 24 and will put up about 20 goals and 50 points this season. Yake, like Sanderson, started performing better offensively once he was converted from center to wing, although lefty Sanderson went to the left wing and righty Yake went to the right side. Biggest disappointment: Hands down, John Cullen. Cullen had a disasterous 77 point season last year, his first full season after The Trade. Cullen started the season off of summer back surgery, and fell flat on his face (appropriate, since he spent all of his Whaler career flat on his ass, and whining about it). Cullen scored just 9 point on 19 games, was a clubhouse malcontent, commanded the powerplay to a 9% success percentage (>21% with Sanderson), and sulked his way out of town. Worst of all, his 4 year, $4M contract had three years left to run, so no one would give up any more than the 2nd round draft pick the Maple Leafs offered to Hartford. Honorable mention: Steve Konroyd, also subpar after signing a 3 year, $2.1M contract; Eric Weinrich, who showed flashes of competence, but overall has played poorly; Jim McKenzie, who was a much better hockey player two seasons ago than he is now; and Frank Pietrangelo, who only seemed to play well when Sean Burke was out for an extended period and he got to make a number of starts in a row. -SG (a real live Hartford Whalers season ticket holder) -steveg@cadkey.com
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From: skip@eco.twg.com (Skip Koppenhaver) Subject: Pulldown menu periodically hangs application on OpenWindows 3.0 Nntp-Posting-Host: eco.twg.com Reply-To: skip@eco.twg.com Organization: The Wollongong Group (East Coast Operations) Lines: 47 Has anyone found a fix for the following problem? Client Software: SunOs 4.1.1, X11R5 Server Hardware: Sun IPC Server Software: SunOs 4.1.1, Open Windows 3.0 (w/ patch 100444-37) A Motif 1.2.2 application will periodically hang when run against the OpenWindows 3.0 server (xnews). The pulldown is displayed but then no button actions have any effect. Sometimes pressing <Return> will unstick the application but not usually. It looks like the pulldown is grabbing the focus and never letting go. Other windows on the display continue to get updated so the server isn't hanging. If I log in from another terminal and kill the Motif application then everything gets back to normal. The same application when run against other X servers (including MIT X11R5 Xsun, DecWindows, Tektronix X terminal) has no problems. This is obviously a OpenWindows problem but I need a work-around since most of our customers are OpenWindows users. I have tried the following things: 1. Installing the latest version of the OpenWindows server patch (100444-37). 2. Using mwm (version 1.2.2) instead of olwm. 3. Applying the patch specified in the Motif FAQ (question 110). This had the effect of disabling the point-and-click method of menu interaction (as opposed to the click-and-drag method), and screwing up the menu mnemonics keys. It did seem to help, but I was still able to get the application to hang. Repeat By: This is an intermittent problem so you'll have to try several times. Click and release on a menu heading (pulldown menu will pop up) Click and release on a menu item Repeat until application hangs Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Skip Koppenhaver skip@eco.twg.com
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From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) Subject: Re: Insurance and lotsa points... Nntp-Posting-Host: acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta Lines: 39 In article <1993Apr18.230531.11329@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan) writes: >In article <13386@news.duke.edu> infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante) writes: >>Well, it looks like I'm F*cked for insurance. >> >>I had a DWI in 91 and for the beemer, as a rec. >>vehicle, it'll cost me almost $1200 bucks to insure/year. >> >>Now what do I do? > >Sell the bike and the car and start taking the bus. That way you can >keep drinking which seems to be where your priorities lay. > >I expect that enough of us on this list have lost friends because of >driving drunks that our collective sympathy will be somewhat muted. Look, guy, I doubt anyone here approves of Drunk Driving, but if he's been caught and convicted and punished maybe you ought to lighten up? I mean, it isn't like most of us haven't had a few and then ridden or driven home. *We* just didn't get caught. And I can speak for myself and say it will *never* happen again, but that is beside the point. In answer to the original poster: I'd insure whatever vehicle is cheapest, and can get you to and from work, and suffer through it for a few years, til your rates drop. And *don't* drink and drive. I had one friend killed by a drunk, and I was rear ended by one, totaling my bike (bent frame), and only failing to kill me because I had an eye on my mirror while I waited at the stoplight. Regards, Charles DoD0.001 RZ350 -- Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time, struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing gourd. --Unknown net.person
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From: moroney@world.std.com (Michael Moroney) Subject: Re: Vulcan? (No, not the guy with the ears!) Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 21 victor@inqmind.bison.mb.ca (Victor Laking) writes: >Does anyone have any info on the apparent sightings of Vulcan? > >All that I know is that there were apparently two sightings at >drastically different times of a small planet that was inside Mercury's >orbit. Beyond that, I have no other info. >Does anyone know anything more specific? >(Yes, this happened LONG before Star Trek and is apparently where they >got the reference for the "guy with the ears".) Yes, long before Star Trek. Before Einstein, in fact. Vulcan as a planet inside Mercury was hypothesized to explain a perturbation of Mercury's orbit that could not be explained by the known planets. But Einstein's theory of relativity explained Mercury's motion, and analysis of Mercury's motion now shows there are _not_ any planets inside its orbit. -Mike
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From: kjetilk@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjetil Kolin) Subject: Proteced Mode Organization: University of Tromsoe Lines: 1 I'm looking for information how W-NT uses Proteced Mode. (The HW support)
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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) Subject: Re: The Inimitable Rushdie Organization: Boston University Physics Department Lines: 41 In article <C5HKv2.Epv@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes: >In article <115256@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes: >>Judaism, for one. Maddi has confirmed this for one. And again I >>reiterate that one can easily leave the religion at any time, >>simply by making a public declaration. If one is too lazy to do >>that then the religion cannot be held responsible. >There are many "Islamic" countries where publically renouncing Islam can be >quite dangerous. These countries might not, according to you, necessarily be >practicing "true" Islam, but the danger still remains; one cannot blame >failure to publically renounce Islam on "laziness" as opposed to a desire to >stay alive and well. Of course, if you're planning to pull a Rushdie then declaring one's leaving the religion is little to be concerned about compared to one's other plans. In Rushdie's case, the one under discussion, one can. It is tragic that in _some_ "Islamic" countries this is so. There are, however, Islamic countries (whose constitutions contains statements that Islamic law is to be incorporated), e.g. Kuwait, where one can freely make such statements without fear. >Not to mention that it has already been pointed out that Rushdie has said in >his books that he's not a Muslim, and there have surely been enough readers of >his books to provide the appropriate number of witnesses. This story has become tiresome. The conditions are clear. If you care to make your point clear then make a chronology and show that he had made public statements about leaving Islam prior to his writing of _TSV_. If he did make such statements then he should have made _that_ clear rather than trying to rejoin Islam or go on talking about his personal feelings. Gregg
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From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly) Subject: Re: California Insurance Commissioner Endorses Federal Legislation to Protect Consumers from Scam Insurance Companies Organization: AT&T Distribution: usa Summary: "Talkin about my g-g-generation." Lines: 41 In article <RLM.93Apr2050627@helen.surfcty.com>, rlm@helen.surfcty.com (Robert L. McMillin) rants: > The left likes to dodge the issues of morality and behavior, crying that > anyone who raises them "blames the victim." Nonetheless, as a recent > editorial in the {Los Angeles Times} pointed out, the free love > advocates of the 1960's have demolished the poor. It's one thing to > have children out of wedlock if you're, say, Murphy Brown (or someone > like her), turning over a six figure salary -- and quite another if > you're sixteen, have no skills, and no income. And how did the "free love advocates of the 1960's" manage to perform this demolition--forced breeding programs or something? > By accepting and even celebrating single, out-of-wedlock parenthood, the > 1960's radicals espousing free love set the stage for catastrophe among > the poor. They must account for this... Now let me get this straight. After a nice, long rant about how people need to take personal responsibility for their economic and social lives, all of a sudden 1960's radicals (such as me, I guess) are responsible for poor people's lifestyles? Tell me how that works--or do you think that poor people are just too dumb to think for themselves? There are many reasons for the disintegration of the family and support systems in general among this nation's poor. Somehow I don't think Murphy Brown--or Janis Joplin--is at the top of any sane person's list. You want to go after my generation's vaunted cultural revolution for a lasting change for the worse, try so-called "relevant" or "values" education. Hey, it seemed like a good idea at the time. How were we to know you needed a real education first--I mean, we took that for granted. *** *** Ken Perlow ***** ***** 05 Apr 93 ****** ****** 16 Germinal An CCI ***** ***** gadfly@ihspc.att.com ** ** ** ** ...L'AUDACE! *** *** TOUJOURS DE L'AUDACE! ENCORE DE L'AUDACE!
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From: jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf) Subject: Info: NEC70001AB Amp. IC & ~20W AMP secs & possible PSPICE models Keywords: Audio, AMPS Nntp-Posting-Host: ra.msstate.edu Organization: Mississippi State University Lines: 40 Hi, Being a Electronic Engineering Student with only Electronic II under my belt, I find myself *needing* to build a moderate wattage Audio Amp. So, I'll throw out a couple of question for the vast knowledge of the 'net'! Please Explain how Watts are calculated in Audio Amp circuits. No, Not P=I*E, Just how it relates to one of the following: Ai [Current Gain] Av [Voltage Gain] Ap [Power Gain] or whatever. I already have a ?wonderful? cheap I.E <$20 schematic for a 20W amp, but I would like to Cross/improve the circuit. The problem is that the parts list has IC1 and IC2 as NEC70001AB amplifiers. They look like ?11 pin? SIP packages with a heatsink. This schematic was published in a 1991 mag so it may be non-existant now. Anyway, I tried looking up a replacement in the latest Digi-key Cat and found it not listed 8(. The closes I could figure was a 9 pin SIP as TDA1520BU. Anyone got any Ideas? I thought, hey I can rin a PSPICE simulation using 741 opamp models. Yea, great! It worked. But, I guess the 741 wasn't made for High power amps. As a result, I got a Voltage gain of ~15mV/V. Worse than I started with 8(... Does anyone have a PSPICE CKT file with cheap yet good gain? How about some models for some of the chips listed in this E-mail? Any ASCII Chip info you guys can send me? I'm open to Suggestions/Ideas/Comments/Help! Please E-mail since I have little time to search the News... And I'll post if there's and interest! John -- ____________ _------_ |||IBM & | EE majors Do it Best 8-) --------\\ ] ~-______-~ |||Atari |~~~~~~~~~John D. Zitterkopf~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (~~~~~\\|_(__ ~~ / | \Rules!jdz1@ra.MsState.edu jdz1@MsState.bitnet \______| ( / | \ |AOL: zitt@aol.com jdz1@isis.MsState.edu
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From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi) Subject: Re: uh, der, whassa deltabox? Organization: Apple Computer Lines: 15 >Can someone tell me what a deltabox frame is, and what relation that has, >if any, to the frame on my Hawk GT? That way, next time some guy comes up >to me in some parking lot and sez "hey, dude, nice bike, is that a deltabox >frame on there?" I can say something besides "duh, er, huh?" The Yammie Deltabox and the Hawk frame are conceptually similar but Yammie has a TM on the name. The Hawk is a purer 'twin spar' frame design: investment castings at steering head and swing arm tied together with aluminum extruded beams. The Yammie solution is a bit more complex. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Godfrey DiGiorgi - ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493 AMA#489408 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati. | "The street finds its own Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1. | uses for things." -WG ------ Ducati Cinelli Toyota Krups Nikon Sony Apple Telebit ------
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From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) Subject: Re: Fortune-guzzler barred from bars! Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Lines: 23 In article <C5qtvL.M73@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (Knicker Twister) writes: >In article <1993Apr19.141959.4057@bnr.ca> >npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes: > >> With regards to the pub brawl, he might have a history of such things. >> Just because he was a biker doesn't make him out to be a reasonable >> person. Even the DoD might object to him joining, who knows? If he had a history of such things, why was it not mentioned in the article, and why did they present the irrelevant detail of where he got his drinking money from? I can't say exactly who is at fault here, but from where I sit is looks like we're seeing the results either of the law going way out of hand or of shoddy journalism. If the law wants to attach strings to how you spend a settlement, they should put the money in trust. They don't, so I would assume it's perfectly legitimate to drink it away, though I wouldn't spend it that way myself. -- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
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From: v103r4g8@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (We will NOT cave in....GODS OF WAR, Def Leppard) Subject: HELP HELP HELP Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 11 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu Does anyone have the NHL STANDINGS for March 28th? I need them IMMEDIATELY for a project. Please post or email. THANKS. ************************************************************************* Andy Hillery --- School Of Architecture State University of New York at Buffalo *************************************************************************
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From: jebright@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Ebright) Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow] Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx Nntp-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 25 In article brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes: [...]> >The greatest danger of the escrow database, if it were kept on disk, >would be the chance that a complete copy could somehow leak out. You [...]> >Of course then it's hard to backup. However, I think the consequences >of no backup -- the data is not there when a warrant comes -- are worse >than the consequences of a secret backup. If the data isn't there when the warrant comes, you effectively have secure crypto. If secret backups are kept...then you effectively have no crypto. Thus, this poster is essentialy arguing no crypto is better than secure crypto. If the data isn't there when the warrant comes, then the government will just have to use normal law enforcement techniques to catch crooks. Is this so bad? BTW, bugging isn't YET a normal law enforcement technique. With the privacy clipper, it WILL become a normal technique. /Jim -- Information farming at... For addr&phone: finger A/~~\A THE Ohio State University jebright@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ((0 0))____ Jim Ebright e-mail: jre+@osu.edu \ / \ (--)\
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From: klj@titan.ucs.umass.edu (KATHERINE L JEFFERS) Subject: MAC SE FORSALE Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Lines: 11 Distribution: usa NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucs.umass.edu This is a repost of an earlier. Thanks to several of you for offering advise on realistic prices. MAC SE/ 2.5 megs ram, 20 meg hard disk, 800 K Floppy. In absolutely perfect condition. Includes Word 5, pagemaker, quark xpress, quicken and the latest versions of about a dozen other programs. Price: 475.00
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From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) Subject: Re: [soc.motss, et al.] "Princeton axes matching funds for Boy Scouts" Article-I.D.: po.kmr4.1447.734101641 Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu In article <1993Apr6.041343.24997@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) writes: >The point has been raised and has been answered. Roger and I have >clearly stated our support of the BSA position on the issue; >specifically, that homosexual behavior constitutes a violation of >the Scout Oath (specifically, the promise to live "morally straight"). Please define "morally straight". And, don't even try saying that "straight", as it is used here, implies only hetersexual behavior. [ eg: "straight" as in the slang word opposite to "gay" ] This is alot like "family values". Everyone is talking about them, but misteriously, no one knows what they are. --- "One thing that relates is among Navy men that get tatoos that say "Mom", because of the love of their mom. It makes for more virile men." Bobby Mozumder ( snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu ) April 4, 1993 The one TRUE Muslim left in the world.
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From: will@futon.webo.dg.com (Will Taber) Subject: [soc.religion.christian] Re: The arrogance of Christians Lines: 50 In a previous message aa888@freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Baker) writes: >If I don't think my belief is right and everyone else's belief is wrong, >then I don't have a belief. This is simply what belief means. [More stuff deleted] This seems to be a pretty arogant definition of belief. My beliefs are those things which I find to be true based on my experience of the world. This experience includes study of things that I may not have experienced directly. But even then, I can only understand the studies to the extent to which I can relate what I study back to what I have experienced. Which means that by beliefs about God are directly related to my experience of God. Having experienced God, I try to make sense of that experience. I study religion and read the Bible. I find things that echo what I have already experienced. Out of this I build my beliefs. I also find things that don't match my experience. That doesn't make them false. They just don't match my experience. Maybe I will understand that stuff later. I don't know. Maybe all of my beliefs are wrong. I can change my beliefs. If someone else has beliefs that are different from mine, so what. Neither of us are necessarily wrong. Someone else is making sense out of a different set of experiences. Even though we have different explanations and beliefs, if we talk we might even discover that the underlying experiences are similar. Some people approach religion as a truth that can only exist in one form, and usually has a single revelation. The more dogmatic and inflexible the belief system, the more arrogant it will appear to an outsider. There is another approach possible, however. God is a mystery. I am trying to solve the mystery, so I look at the evidence available to me. I try to arrive at the best understanding that I can based on the evidence. New evidence may cause me to change my understanding. When I encounter someone with a different belief than my own, it isn't a threat, it is an opportunity to perhaps discover something new about this mystery I can never fully comprehend. Peace Will Taber ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | William Taber | Will_Taber@dg.com | Any opinions expressed | | Data General Corp. | will@futon.webo.dg.com | are mine alone and may | | Westboro, Mass. 01580 | | change without notice. | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- | When all your dreams are laid to rest, you can get what's second best, | | But it's hard to get enough. David Wilcox | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: ted@nmsu.edu (Ted Dunning) Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption Organization: Computing Research Lab Lines: 7 Distribution: na NNTP-Posting-Host: lole.nmsu.edu In-reply-to: clipper@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov's message of Fri, 16 Apr 1993 15:19:06 GMT nobody seems to have noticed that the clipper chip *must* have been under development for considerably longer than the 3 months that clinton has been president. this is not something that choosing choosing bush over clinton would have changed in the slightest; it has been in the works for some time.
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From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris) Article-I.D.: news.C5Jowp.KJG Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 58 <FINAID2@auvm.american.edu> writes: > Mr. Tamamidis: >Before repling your claims, I suggest you be kind to individuals >who are trying to make some points abouts human rights, discriminations, >and unequal treatment of Turkish minority in GREECE.I want the World >know how bad you treat these people. You will deny anything I say but >It does not make any difrence because I will write things that I saw with >my eyes.You prove yourself prejudice by saying free insurance, school >etc. Do you Greeks only give these things to Turkish minority or >everybody has rights to get them.Your words even discriminate >these people. You think that you are giving big favor to these >people by giving these thing that in reality they get nothing. No. I do not thing we are doing them a favor. I have simply stated that they are not treated as a second class citizens. That was my point. I fail to see how my words show discrimination. And what do you mean that they do not get nothing? Is, for example, helth insurance, food, and tuition nothing? >If you do not know unhuman practices that are being conducted >by the Government of the Greece, I suggest that you investigate >to see the facts. Then, we can discuss about the most basic >human rights like fredom of religion, fredom of press of Turkish >minority, ethnic cleansing of all Turks in Greece,fredom of >right to have property without government intervention, >fredom of right to vote to choose your community leaders, >how Greek Government encourages people to destroy >religious places, houses, farms, schools for Turkish minority then >forcing them to go to turkey without anything with them. I'm sorry, but I cannot see any logical order in the above argument. >Before I conclude my writing, let me point out how Greeks are >treated in Turkey. We do not consider them Greek minority, instead >we consider a part of our society. What part exactly is this one? The people cannot even sell their property if they want to leave Turkey. The patriarch could not get a permision to renovate some buildings for decades; it needed a special agreement between the two goverments for this. Talk about a part of the society? Why has the size of the Greek community reduced to 1,500 old people and priests then? >There is no difference among people in Turkey. Yeah, you bet. >All big businesses >belong to Greeks in Turkey and we are proud to have them.unlike the >Greece which tries to destroy Turkish minority, We encourage all >minorities in Turkey to be a part of Turkish society. You are far off from the reality. >Aykut Atalay Atakan Panos Tamamidis
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From: fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Eric Roush) Subject: Re: Young Catchers Article-I.D.: news.12799 Organization: Biochemistry Lines: 139 Nntp-Posting-Host: bruchner.biochem.duke.edu Since I was the one responsible for these divergent threads of approx. 40+ posts (going back to: The Braves could be better off if an injury happens), I may as well inject a little more fuel to the flame! 1) Back at the beginning of Spring Training, I though Lopez would make the squad easily. Olson was still recovering from his late-season injury (knee, I believe), and there were questions as to whether he would be able to play before June. And then Berryhill was dinged up. I was looking forward to this, because I believe that Lopez can hit AND field the position. Before last season, he was the Braves "Defensive Catcher" prospect, while Brian Deak was the Braves "Offensive Catcher" prospect. Besides, Olson and Berryhill couldn't hit their way out of a wet cardboard box, and don't walk enough to be useful. But Olson recovered quickly, Berryhill recovered, and the Braves went with the two vets. I still say that if one of those two had been down at the start of the season, he wouldn't have gotten his job back. 2) There is a certain logic to keeping Olson and Berryhill around. After all, ML catchers are in short supply and suffer from wear and tear. There are teams out there without ONE average ML catcher (California and Seattle come to mind). Certainly, trying to move Olson or Berryhill through waivers would be unlikely to work. Plus, you'd have to eat that salary, which isn't huge, but isn't tiddleywinks either (I think Olson's at about $800,000, Berryhill at $450,000, but that's only what I recall). 3) Yes, I think arbitration-eligibility may have a role to play in this also. What is it, that 5/6 of the 2+year players aren't eligible for arbitration? Only the 1/6 that were on the roster the longest are eligible? Of course, the system may change, but the extent of that change is not yet known. From a business standpoint, it may make sense to keep Lopez down until June/the first time Olson/Berryhill go on the DL. 4) I am still disappointed that Lopez isn't on the team. I still prefer to think of myself as a fan when it comes to the Braves, and the truth is that I'd rather see our best team on the field, which, IMO, includes Lopez. Of course,today we play the Cubs. Hopefully, we won't need him. ;) As for the Schuerholz/Cox conversation, I imagine it went like this: (Remember, they've BOTH been GM's) (the following is not meant to be read by the humor-impaired) Cox: OK, we've sent Jones down. His fielding could be a little smoother. Besides, Blauser can hit OK and his fielding is better than it used to be. Schuerholz: Well, we'll have to send Nieves down too. Deion just won't sign that baseball only contract. We can't count on him in October, so we have to keep Nixon around for the defense. Besides, Gorman's not ready to give up on Billy Hatcher yet. Once Hatcher's gone AND Deion signs, we can move Nixon for Frankie Rodriguez. That ought to give us some pitching depth in 1995. Cox: Yep, that'll be nice. Too bad Deion won't sign. OK, I'll look for Nieves when Justice starts having Berry-Berry...er, back problems again. Now, what about Klesko? Schuerholz: Well, we've still got to fork out another 1.5 mil for Bream. If we keep Klesko, we either lose the money or Cabrera. I keep dangling Sid in front of Dal Maxwell, but somehow he doesn't seem to be the same GM. First Jeffries for Jose, and now Whiten for Clark! If he gets rid of Brian Jordan, then I'd HAVE to believe that he and Whitey Herzog switched bodies at the Winter Meetings! Cox: OK, keep trying on Bream, and I'll wait til the trading deadline for my Hunter/Klesko platoon. Maybe I can get a few extra at-bats for Cabrera while we wait. Try California... if Snow starts slowly, maybe WhiteyDal will bite on Sid. And if that doesn't work, then perhaps Sid's knees could be "persuaded" to act up. There's always the 15-day DL! Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha! Schuerholz: What about Caraballo? Cox: Well, he's not that much better than Lemke. Maybe if he starts in Richmond, he'll start walking more. Besides, if he's going to be arbitration-eligible, better to stretch him out so that we actually get some value from him before he makes the big bucks. Schuerholz: Now, let's see. That leaves Lopez. Cox: NOOOOO! I gotta keep Lopez! Sure, I didn't think Olson would recover this quickly. Maybe I can talk Caminiti into running into him again? Schuerholz: Nope, Lopez has gotta go. You know that he'll get $3 million in arbitration. May as well put it off that one extra year. Besides, until Olson's shown his stuff a little bit, I can't trade him. Besides, Berryhill's a left-handed hitter. You know how rare that is? Cox: Don't you mean a left-handed whiffer? Pretty common, if you ask me. I mean, he made Pat Borders look good in the World Series. PAT BORDERS!!! Schuerholz: Hey, you're the one who wouldn't write Lopez into the lineup. Cox: Well, you're the one who went out and got me Jeff Reardon! Besides, I thought Lopez wouldn't be used to our pitching staff's stuff. He got some time with them this spring...looked pretty good. Come on, surely we only need to keep one stiff behind the plate? Schuerholz: Yeah, but which stiff? Whichever one we keep will be hurt by May. Cox: OK, OK, you made your point. Keep them both. Surely one of them will be on the DL by June at the latest. Then I can call up Lopez, and then we can win 110 games! The Pennant! THE WORLD SERIES! I'll be up there with John McGraw! Casey Stengel! Earl Weaver! Oh, they laughed at me in Toronto, but have you ever had to deal with George Bell? I'll finally get my just reward! Mwa-ha-ha-ha! Schuerholz: Easy, Bobby. Have you been taking those "happy pills" left around by Chuck Tanner? Why'd you ever hire that guy anyhow? Cox: Don't ask me; ask Ted. ------------------------------------------------------- Eric Roush fierkelab@ bchm.biochem.duke.edu "I am a Marxist, of the Groucho sort" Grafitti, Paris, 1968 TANSTAAFL! (although the Internet comes close.) --------------------------------------------------------
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From: sharma@tiger.vill.edu (Sanjeev Sharma) Subject: Positioning a window, under openlook. Keywords: Windows, openlook. Organization: Villanova University Lines: 20 Originator: sharma@tiger.vill.edu Hi there netters, I require a window to appear at a co-ordinates (0,0) (top left corner) of my screen (root window). Could some windows guru out there help me on how to go about doing this. I write the whole program which creates the window with the image it displays - I require the image to appear at the top-left corner so that I can grab it for recording on to video, using a MIniVas controller, which expects the window at the same spot every time. Thanks in advance. sincerely, Sanjeev Sharma -- _____________________________________________________________________ Office: e_mail: Deptt. of Computing Science sharma@monet.vill.edu Villanova University (215)645-6463
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From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca Subject: Trade rumor: Montreal/Ottawa/Phillie Lines: 20 Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada TSN Sportsdesk just reported that the OTTAWA SUN has reported that Montreal will send 4 players + $15 million including Vin Damphousse and Brian Bellows to Phillidelphia, Phillie will send Eric Lindros to Ottawa, and Ottawa will give it's first round pick to Montreal. If this is true, it will most likely depend on whether or not Ottawa gets to choose 1st overall. Can Ottawa afford Lindros' salary? Personally, I can't see Philli giving up Lindros -- for anything. They didn't give away that much to Quebec just to trade him away again. Not to mention that Lindros seems to be a *huge* draw in Phillie -- and that he represents a successful future for the franchise. Ottawa may be better off taking the 4 players +$15 from Montreal for the pick. Stephen Legge SLEGGE@kean.ucs.munc.ca
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From: MUNIZB%RWTMS2.decnet@rockwell.com ("RWTMS2::MUNIZB") Subject: Long Island (was Why use AC at 20kHz for SSF power) X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest Organization: [via International Space University] Original-Sender: isu@VACATION.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU Distribution: sci Lines: 21 on Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 23:19:46 GMT, Edmund Hack <arabia!hack> writes: /In article <1pgdno$3t1@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes: /> />I always thought GD's Fighter plants were in Long Island. /> /No, Northrup has a plant on Long Island. I don't think Northrup ever had a plant on Long Island. The two main airframe manufacturers there were (Fairchild)/Republic which closed its doors after the T-46 cancellation, and Grumman (which is still hanging on last I time I called). I think Sperry also started there. If you're ever in the area check out the Cradle of Aviation Museum at Mitchell field (now mostly parking lots behind the Nassau Coliseum and the community college). Good display of vehicles from Long Island, including a LEM flight article. Disclaimer: Opinions stated are solely my own (unless I change my mind). Ben Muniz MUNIZB%RWTMS2.decnet@consrt.rockwell.com w(818)586-3578 Space Station Freedom:Rocketdyne/Rockwell:Structural Loads and Dynamics "Man will not fly for fifty years": Wilbur to Orville Wright, 1901
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From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) Subject: Re: Procomm Plus for windows problems.... Lines: 24 Nntp-Posting-Host: pittpa.cray.com Organization: Cray Research Inc. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Robert J. Niland (rjn@teal.csn.org) wrote: [Much text deleted] : I have heard from several people about less expensive m-f I/O cards : with 16550s: : TSD Systems : (407) 331-9130 : $19.95 for the card, plus $9.95 per 16550. I can vouch for this one. I ordered it and got it for $34 including S&H. It took me awhile to figure out how to get it working with my system, but since I did, I get terrific results while downloading using PCPlus for Windows. I used to get errors if I started any other program while downloading at high speed. Not anymore. [More text deleted] -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Tom Huot huot@cray.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: bbenowit@telesciences.com (Barry D Benowitz) Subject: Re: eye dominance In-Reply-To: rsilver@world.std.com's message of Mon, 12 Apr 1993 21:02:31 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: kyanite Organization: Telesciences CO Systems, Inc. Lines: 24 In article <C5E2G7.877@world.std.com> rsilver@world.std.com (Richard Silver) writes: > Is there a right-eye dominance (eyedness?) as there is an > overall right-handedness in the population? I mean do most > people require less lens corrections for the one eye than the > other? If so, what kinds of percentages can be attached to this? > Thanks. Yes, there is such a thing as eye dominance, although I am not sure if this dominance refers to perscription strength. As i recall, if you selectively close your dominant eye, you will percieve that the image shifts. This will not happen if you close your other eye. I believe that which eye is dominant is related to handedness, but I can't recall the relation at the moment. -- Barry D. Benowitz EMail: bbenowit@telesciences.com (...!pyrnj!telesci!bbenowit) Phone: +1 609 866 1000 x354 Snail: Telesciences CO Systems, 351 New Albany Rd, Moorestown, NJ, 08057-1177
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From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) Subject: Re: quick way to tell if your local beat writer is dumb. Article-I.D.: pilot.Apr.6.00.33.22.1993.26417 Distribution: na Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken Lines: 7 ok - sorry about that...i didn't realise he was being sarcastic about those sort of things. but i'll tell you, mike lupica (daily news) usually says some pretty funny things in his "shooting from the lip" columns... - bob gaj
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From: dyoung@ecst.csuchico.edu (Douglas Young) Subject: Re: To be, or Not to be [ a Disaster ] Distribution: na Organization: California State University, Chico Lines: 77 NNTP-Posting-Host: grotus.ecst.csuchico.edu In article <philC5Ls4A.MEA@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes: >In article <612@vega.iii.com> rhockins@enrico.tmc.edu (Russ) writes: > >In article <philC5Ht85.H48@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil > >Ronzone) writes: > > > >>Not at all. You are apparently just another member of the > >>Religious Left. > >> > >Not at all. I am not a member of the Religious Left, Right, > >or even Center. In fact I don't consider myself very > >religious at all [ this will probably result in flames now :) > >]. In fact Phil, you should leave religion out of it. It just > >clouds the issue. > >The religous left worships trees, rivers, the planet, and hates people. And the religious right worships engines, smokestacks, landfills, and hates people. What does this name-calling have to do with anything you are claiming about the truth of environmental disaster? Nothing that I have read in this thread, nor heard from anyone I have talked to, would suggest to me that people fit the definition you give of the religious left. Come off it, Phil. A prime motivation for protecting our environment is so that we, people, can continue to live in it healthily. We just disagree on what is necessary to maintaining a healthy environment FOR PEOPLE. > >>Show me all these environmental "disasters". Most of them > >>aren't. And the natural disasters we have had individually > >>far outweigh the man-made ones. [Russ's response deleted to save space] >I guess you missed the newspaper articles this week about Exxon presenting >evidnce (through the ASTM) on the issue of the Valdez incident. Seems >that Valdez is mostly recovered, despite the Religious Left's cries of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >"hundreds of years". What!? They have already repaired that old hulk!!!? WOW!!! ;-) I suppose you *mean* the Alaskan shores that were devastated by the Valdez accident? I haven't seen the articles. What do they say exactly? Has [mostly] all the ocean and shore life returned? The sands are [mostly] as clean as they were before? The microbial samples are [mostly] back to a normal balance? The fish and fowl populations have [mostly] returned? What? >Then again, the Relgious Left claimed it would take 20 yearsb to put out >the Kuwait oil fires... [...] > You should face the facts. Love Canal >was not, and is not, an environmental disaster, nor even a problem. > >Nor is Times Beach and TMI and acid rain killing trees and .... Not a problem? Would you move to Three Mile Island? I would imagine there is some cheap property available! The naturally occurring catastrophic events [disasters] that destroy property (ie: hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes) do not usually leave toxic wastes that prevent people from re-building their lives there. The man-made disasters (oil spills, toxic dumping, radioactive waste dispersions) cause death and make an area unliveable far beyond the initial event. >-- >There are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of >environmental disaster. Weird, eh? > >These opinions are MINE, and you can't have 'em! (But I'll rent 'em cheap ...) -- ---)---------- ----------(--- Douglas Young (dyoung@ecst.csuchico.edu) I don't know why, but I seem to expect a serious discussion on the net. ---)---------- ----------(---
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From: dcr@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Derek C. Richardson) Subject: Re: Animation with XPutImage()? Nntp-Posting-Host: ioas09.ast.cam.ac.uk Reply-To: dcr@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk Organization: Institute of Astronomy, Cambridge Lines: 50 In article 4867@mlb.semi.harris.com, jmartin@egret.imagesRus (John Martin) writes: > Animation is most frequently done by copying the the client resident XImages into > server resident Pixmap(s) using XPutImage. Once this is done, the original XImages > can be deleted and the animation loop can be performed using XCopyArea from the Pixmaps to the windows drawable. > > Hope this is helpfull. > > John > I just implemented this and it seems I can just about achieve the display rates (20 400x400x8 frames / sec on IPX) that I get with Sunview, though it's a bit "choppy" at times. Also, loading the data, making an XImage, then XPut'ing it into a pixmap is a bit cumbersome, so the animation is slower to load than with Sunview. Is there a better way to load in the data? rgooch@rp.CSIRO.AU (Richard Gooch) writes: > If you need speed, and your client can run on the same host as the X server, > you should use the shared memory extension to the sample X server (MIT-SHM). > xdpyinfo will tell you if your server has this extension. This is certainly > available with the sample MIT X server running under SunOS. > A word of warning: make sure your kernel is configured to support shared > memory. And another word of warning: OpenWindows is slower than the MIT > server. > I have written an imaging tool (using XView for the GUI, by the way) which > yields over 10 frames per second for 512*512*8 bit images, running on a Sparc > IPC (half the cpu grunt of an IPX). This has proved quite sufficient for > animations. > > Regards, > > Richard Gooch.... Shared memory PutImage (also mentioned by nkissebe@delphi.beckman.uiuc.edu, Nick Kisseberth) looks interesting, but I need someone to point me to some documentation. Is this method likely to give better results than server- resident pixmaps? I'd also be interested in looking at the XView code mentioned above... Thanks for the help so far. If I get something decent put together, I'll definitely post it to the Net. ----------------------------------------------------------- | Derek C. Richardson | Tel: (0223) 337548 x 37501 | | Institute of Astronomy | Fax: (0223) 337523 | | Cambridge, U.K. | | | CB3 0HA | E-mail: dcr@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk | -----------------------------------------------------------
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From: wstuartj@lucky.ecn.purdue.edu (W Stuart Jones) Subject: Adding VRAM to Quadra 800 ? Summary: How many 512k VRAM simms do I need to add to the Quadra 800? Keywords: VRAM Quadra 800 Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Lines: 12 I want to go from 512K to 1M VRAM on my Quadra 800. How many 512K SIMMS do I need to buy? Is the current 512K soldered on the board or do I need to take out the current VRAM before I add more? Thanks, Wesley Stuart Jones -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% Wesley Stuart Jones jonesw@res.wes.mot.com %% %% wstuartj@ecn.purdue.edu %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: Cause of mental retardation? Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 35 In article <1993Apr13.111834.1@cc.uvcc.edu> harrisji@cc.uvcc.edu writes: > >Chromosome studies have shown no abnormalities. Enzyme studies and >urine analyses have not turned up anything out of the ordinary. >MRI images of the brain show scar tissue in the white matter. >Subsequent MRI analysis has shown that the deterioration of the >white matter is progressive. > >Because neither family has a history of anything like this, and >because two of our four children are afflicted with the disorder, >we believe that it is an autosomal recessive metabolic disorder of >some kind. Naturally, we would like to know exactly what the >disease is so that we may gain some insight into how we can expect >the disorder to progress in the future. We would also like to be >able to provide our normal children with some information about >what they can expect in their own children. > It could be one of the leukodystrophies (not adrenal, only boys get that). Surely you've been to a university pediatric neurology department. If not that is the next step. Biopsies might help, especially if peripheral nerves are also affected. There are so many of these diseases that would fit the symptoms you gave that more can't be said at this time. I agree with your surmise that it is an autosomal recessive. If so, your normal children won't have to worry too much unless they marry near relatives. Most recessive genes are rare except in inbred communities (e.g. Lithuanian Jews). -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) Subject: Re: Best Homeruns Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853 Lines: 18 In article <1qn6tqINNmnf@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok) writes: > >the best home run i have *ever* seen came off, believe it or not, >Roger Clemens (sorry, Val) a couple of years ago. he threw a ball to >Incaviglia which was literally at Inky's neck, and he absolutely >hammered the crap out of it. after the swing, Clemens nonchalantly >motioned for a new ball--he didn't even turn around to look, or >even get upset. the ball hit the lights in the left-field standard, >some 70 or so feet about the Green Monster (over 100 feet above the >ground total!) > >truly an amazing shot. I agree. Home runs off Clemens are always memorable. Kinda like eclipses and hurricanes. They don't happen very often. Cheers, -Valentine
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From: kde@boi.hp.com (Keith Emmen) Subject: Re: Biblical Backing of Koresh's 3-02 Tape (Cites enclosed) Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4 Lines: 11 xcpslf@oryx.com (stephen l favor) writes: : : Seems to me Koresh is yet another messenger that got killed : : for the message he carried. (Which says nothing about the : : character of the messenger.) I reckon we'll have to find out : : the rest the hard way. : : : : Koresh was killed because he wanted lots of illegal guns. I haven't heard of ANY illegal guns being found. He was accused of not paying taxes on LEGAL guns.
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From: rsteele@adam.ll.mit.edu (Rob Steele) Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes? Reply-To: rob@ll.mit.edu Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory Lines: 15 I think it was Lewis who said that in a wedding, it's the principals that marry each other; the church and the state are present merely as witnesses. ------------------------------------------------------------ Rob Steele In coming to understand anything MIT Lincoln Laboratory we are rejecting the facts as they 244 Wood St., M-203 are for us in favour of the facts Lexington, MA 02173 as they are. 617/981-2575 C.S. Lewis [This is not just Lewis -- it's a summary of standard Catholic theology. However this doesn't mean that the presence of those witnesses is optional, except in odd situations like the standard desert island. --clh]
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From: garrett@Ingres.COM Subject: Re: Losers (Was Re: Stop putting down white het males.) Summary: Just my $.02 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1 Keywords: racism, sexism, mysogyny Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division Lines: 107 In article <1939@tecsun1.tec.army.mil>, riggs@descartes.etl.army.mil (Bill Riggs) writes... >In article <1993Apr2.180839.14305@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tree of Schnopia) writes: >>In <1993Apr2.064804.29008@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> michael@neuron6.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Rivero) writes: >>> I don't know what you as a white male did. I do know what white males, >>>as a class, have done. >>> They've invented the light bulb, the automobile, the airplane, printing with >>>movable type, photography, computers, the electric guitar. anasthesia, rocket >>>powered space flight, the computer, electricity, the telephone, TV, motion >>>pictures, penecillin(sp), telescopes, nylon, and the X-Ray machine. >> >>Two glaring errors here. First, white males don't do anything as a "class." >>INDIVIDUAL white males invented those things, which means nothing to white >>males as a whole. Second, you neglected to mention Charles Manson, Hitler, >>McCarthy, Jack the Ripper, Ted Bundy, and a whole slew of individuals who >>have done horrible, evil things. If white males can take the credit for >>our fellow white males' boons, we must also take the blame for our >>fellows' blights. I claim we deserve neither credit nor blame for these >>things. > >>White males need to wake up and realize that they're being unfair, yes. But >>everyone else needs to wake up and realize that being unfair right back is >>disgusting, racist and sexist. >>Why can't we learn to treat everyone fairly, without generalizing? What >>stupidity gene makes this so difficult? "I'd like to buy the world a >>clue..." > > The word that is missing in this whole discourse is not the "B" >word, or the "H" word, or even the "N" or "W" words. It is the "L" word - >LOSER !! > > That's right. When we boil all the crap out of this argument, it >is all about WINNING and LOSING, and nothing else. Let me explain. > In the meantime, there is guilt for winning, maybe a fear that one >doesn't deserve one's bounty - or success. So there is a "kinder and gentler >type of politician these days, Bill Clinton, affirmative action, and lots of >discourse about people who "don't get it". For those of us in the winning >business, this kind of talk is mildly irritating, but there is still no >suggestion of losing. > Who is D-FENS, anyway ? The answer is as plain as the horn rims on >your face. The guy is MICHAEL DOUGLAS, posing as a LOSER. This >is known as controversial casting. But that baggy short-sleeved white shirt >sure does look natural on Mike doesn't it. Gordon Gekko will never look the >same. (Though Woody always dressed that way.) Did we really expect Gekko to >take it easy and enjoy that kind of wardrobe, without putting up a fuss ? > What we are starting to lose sight of is, that bashing D-FENS is >the same game as bashing that poor African American slug that Clint Eastwood >used to blow away all the time. As that arch-WASP (male gender) George C. Scott >declaimed, "Americans traditionally LOVE TO WIN. They love a winner, and will >not tolerate a loser." And so on. Since we are talking in theory and opinion, then I'll put in my $.02. First, a rebuttle. Personally, I love under-dogs. Unlike bandwagon jumpers, I abandon teams when they start winning. People that cheer for winners just because they are winners are insecure people who are afraid to be associated with something negative. > The political implications are simple. If, as many socialists - and >Democrats - do, you consider society a finite pie to a apportioned in some >"equitable" way, then you have to worry about who is a winner and who is a >loser to tell whose side you are on. That could be black women today, Asian >homosexuals tommorrow, and yes indeed, white men some yet to be determined >day when the balance of the pie has finally swung against that (39%) >minority. On this one point, I agree. The reason that people bash WASP's is because they have been on top for a long time. Whoever is on top is going to oppress whoever is below them so that they can stay on top. If Hannibal had pushed on to Rome after his victory at Cannae we might all be bashing the blacks for oppressing us peacefull white people for all these centuries. I seriously doubt that if the blacks had conquered the world that they would have treated their colonies any better/worse than the whites did. The white race did some unspeakable things to the other races of the world. But they only did what any other conquering race would have done (ie. Khan). The real question is, should we carry over that blame to the present generation who didn't participate in the crimes? Would it do any good? Has it done Bosnia any good? They are fighting wars that stopped hundreds, even thousands, of years ago. My opinion is, if there are inequities now, then let's change them. But don't blame me for what my ancestors did. It wouldn't settle anything anyway. > Either way you go, the way of the Winner is no longer the way to be >popular - at least after you graduate from High School (but you'll still >be popular at High School reunions). But it beats being a Nerd, as I >would imagine Michael Douglas would now agree, and in the long run, it >is the only way to go. That's where you are dead wrong. You don't join up on a side just because they are winning. That makes you spineless. Winning, in high school and after high school, is still the best way to be popular, but it doesn't make you right. All the best causes in history were loosing causes (with only a couple exceptions). Winning only makes a difference to other people, not to yourself. And what good is the opinions of other people if they only care how you appear (ie. a Winner). If you can't beat them, fight them every inch of the way. >Bill R. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "At that moment the bottom fell out of Authur's mind. Garrett Johnson His eyes turned inside out. His feet began to leak out Garrett@Ingres.com of the top of his head. The room folded flat around him, spun around, shifted out of existence and left him sliding into his own naval." - Douglas Adams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: ip02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Danny Phornprapha) Subject: I'm getting a car, I need opinions. Organization: Lehigh University Lines: 14 I have $30,000 as my budget. I'm looking for a sports or GT car. What do you think would be the best buy? (I'm looking for specific models) Thanks, Danny -- =============================================================================== = "Hey! You programmers out there! | Danny Phornprapha = = Please consider this: | ip02@lehigh.edu = = | = = Bugs are another endangered earth | LUCC Student Konsultant = = Species needing your protection. | Work: (215) 758-4141 =
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From: stusoft@hardy.u.washington.edu (Stuart Denman) Subject: Re: 3D2 files - what are they? Article-I.D.: shelley.1rft1nINNc7s Organization: University of Washington Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu doug@hparc0.aus.hp.com (Doug Parsons) writes: >I was chaining around in the anonymous ftp world looking for 3D Studio >meshes and other interesting graphical stuff for the program, and found >a few files with the extension 3D2. My 3DS v2.01 doesn't know this type >of file, so what are they? They are 3D object files for CAD 3D 2.0, a program written by Tom Hudson for the Atari ST computers. Don't know much more about them except that they are stored with the points first, then the surfaces are next, and are made by listing 3 point numbers that make up the triangle surface. Then there's a header that describes coloring, lighting, etc. Don't know much more than this, hope this helps. Stuart Denman stusoft@u.washington.edu
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From: montnaro@spyder.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro) Subject: Re: Circular Motif Widgets In-Reply-To: dev@hollywood.acsc.com's message of 16 Apr 1993 17:16:02 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: spyder.crd.ge.com Reply-To: montanaro@ausable.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro) Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development, Schenectady, NY Lines: 17 If you're willing to do a little work, you can make DrawnButtons do what you want, more-or-less. One of my colleagues here at GE CRD has done just that in our internal LYMB system. We have a matrix transform class that makes it easy to compute a series of dial positions from a single set of vectors. Each set of vectors is then drawn into a pixmap. Clicking the button advances the knob's state and changes to the next pixmap in the sequence. Using DrawnButtons obviously still constrains you to taking up a rectangular portion of the parent widget, but that's normally not a big shortcoming. You can make things look circular enough. -- Skip (montanaro@crd.ge.com) "Why can't X be this easy?" -- me, after learning about dlopen()
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From: kilty@ucrengr (kathleen richards) Subject: Re: Lyme vaccine Reply-To: karicha@eis.calstate.edu Lines: 12 Nntp-Posting-Host: ucrengr X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Jeff, If you have time to type it in I'd love to have the reference for that paper! thanks! -- kathleen richards email: karicha@eis.calstate.edu ~Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!~ -dire straits
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From: aliceb@tea4two.Eng.Sun.COM (Alice Taylor) Subject: accupuncture and AIDS Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 8 Distribution: world Reply-To: aliceb@tea4two.Eng.Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: tea4two A friend of mine is seeing an acupuncturist and wants to know if there is any danger of getting AIDS from the needles. Thanks, -alice
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From: jprzybyl@skidmore.edu (jennifer przybylinski) Subject: Re: Hell_2: Black Sabbath Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY Lines: 14 Hey... I may be wrong, but wasn't Jeff Fenholt part of Black Sabbath? He's a MAJOR brother in Christ now. He totally changed his life around, and he and his wife go on tours singing, witnessing, and spreading the gospel for Christ. I may be wrong about Black Sabbath, but I know he was in a similar band if it wasn't that particular group... HOW GREAT IS TH LOVE THE FATHER HAS LAVISHED ON US, THAT WE SHOULD BE CALLED CHILDREN OF GOD! AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE! (1 JOHN 3:1) Grace and peace to all, (I'll see you ALL Someday!) Jenny jprzybyl@scott.skidmore.edu
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From: tffreeba@indyvax.iupui.edu Subject: Death and Taxes (was Why not give $1 billion to... Article-I.D.: indyvax.1993Apr22.162501.747 Lines: 10 In my first posting on this subject I threw out an idea of how to fund such a contest without delving to deep into the budget. I mentioned granting mineral rights to the winner (my actual wording was, "mining rights.) Somebody pointed out, quite correctly, that such rights are not anybody's to grant (although I imagine it would be a fait accompli situation for the winner.) So how about this? Give the winning group (I can't see one company or corp doing it) a 10, 20, or 50 year moratorium on taxes. Tom Freebairn
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From: cfj@ssd.intel.com (Charlie Johnson) Subject: Re: LH car order delay Nntp-Posting-Host: alaska Organization: Intel Corporation Lines: 23 In article <1993Apr2.135926.1@skcla.monsanto.com>, mas@skcla.monsanto.com writes: |> I read an article in the 3/25 Chicago Tribune stating that Chrysler is |> having problems addressing the demand for the 3.5L engine for it's LH |> cars. Can anyone post how long they are waiting for an ordered car or |> how long they have been told they'll have to wait?? |> |> Thanks! |> |> John Mas |> |> |> E-Mail Address :: MAS@SKCLA.MONSANTO.COM |> I ordered an Intrepid ES on Jan 25th and haven't seen it yet. I called a couple of weeks ago and was told 2-3 more weeks. It's probably time to call again. -- Charles Johnson Intel Corporation Supercomputer Systems Division MS CO1-01 15201 NW Greenbrier Pkwy Beaverton, OR 97006 phone: (503)629-7605 email: cfj@ssd.intel.com
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From: cbray@uafhp..uark.edu (Chris Bray) Subject: Cassettes for Sale!!! (Update) Organization: Kansas State University Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: uafhp.uark.edu Summary: Tapes for sale... Keywords: tapes, sale, sell Hi there again... I still have a few tapes left... As before they are $2.50 each (postage paid). Multiple orders appreciated, but not necessary... Package deals welcome... Thanks... Chris Bray Lewis, Huey|Sports Hooters|Nervous Night Poison|Look What the Cat Dragged In Hall & Oates|Big Bam Boom Ratt|Out of the Cellar Quiet Riot|Condition Critical Seger, Bob|Like a Rock Outfield|Play Deep Plant, Robert|Shaken n' Stirred Journey|Raised on Radio Duran Duran|Duran Duran Duran Duran|Arena Duran Duran|Rio
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From: then@snakemail.hut.fi (Tomi H Engdahl) Subject: Re: Telephone on hook/off hok ok circuit ~ Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 17 <laird.734044906@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> <1ptolq$p7e@werple.apana.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lk-hp-11.hut.fi In-reply-to: petert@zikzak.apana.org.au's message of 7 Apr 1993 05:26:18 GMT In article <1ptolq$p7e@werple.apana.org.au> petert@zikzak.apana.org.au (Peter T.) writes: >Since an on-hook line is aprox 48-50V, and off-hook it usually drops below 10V. >How about an LED in series with a zener say around 30V. >On-hook = LED on >Off-hook = LED off. >Would this work? If anyone tries/tried it, please let me know. Not recommended. Your circuit would take too much current, when telephone is on-hook. Telephone company does not like it. -- Tomi.Engdahl@hut.fi ! LOWERY'S LAW: then@niksula.hut.fi ! "If it jams - force it. If it breaks, ! it needed replacing anyway." * This text is provided "as is" without any express or implied warranty *
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From: zdem0a@hgo7.hou.amoco.com (Donna Martz) Subject: Re: BRAINDEAD Drivers Who Don't Look Ahead-- Keywords: bad drivers Organization: Amoco Distribution: usa Lines: 53 hhm@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (herschel.h.mayo) writes: >> >So, I block the would-be passers. Not only for my own good , >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >but theirs as well even though they are often too stupid to realize it. >> !!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!! >> >As a rule of philosophy, I don't feel particularly sorry when somebody gets >> >offed by his own stupidity, but It does worry me when some idiot is in a >> >position to cash in my chips, too. >> > H.H. Mayo >> >> zdem0a@hgo7.hou.amoco.com (Donna Martz) writes: >> Well, Aren't we just Mr. Altruism himself!! Just what the world needs, >> another frustrated self appointed traffic cop. hhm@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (herschel.h.mayo) writes: >Well, if you want to stick the nose of your car up the ass of a 50 foot semi, >I suppose it's your neck, however, I'm not going to let you kill me in the >bargain. If you get frustrated by somebody delaying your inevitable death >due to less that wise driving practices, then TOUGH!!! Well, I never wrote that I would act as you described. I stated that I would not block a would-be passer. I would not block a would-be passer "for their own good" or for any reason other than I was prevented from doing so due to the traffic circumstance. I fail to see how deterring a passer under these circumstance would IN ANY WAY decrease YOUR chances of being involved in an accident, fatal or otherwise. In fact, I could imagine how blocking a would-be passer would actually INCREASE your chances of being "offed" or involved in an accident, especially if this "passer" is riding your bumper. Intentionally blocking a person riding your bumper is certainly NOT a "wise driving practice", it only causes the jam to become more congested. I don't mess with trucks and I actually watch the road ahead AND the road behind! If I perceive that I am rapidly closing on a "pack" of vehicles, I try to avoid getting caught up in situation such as you decribe. Usually either traffic is just building and I have to deal with this fact of life, or I wait to a slow passer to complete their pass and make way for the pack to clear. If someone decides then to pull up on my bumper, I signal my intention to move to the right, and do so at the first opportunity (& hope they will open the jam). I feel this is not only courteous driving, but ALOT safer than the actions you advocate!!! There are actually many courteous drivers on the road who do not intentionally impede others. If someone in front of me seems to be oblivious to the fact that they are blocking traffic I use my blinker or flash my lights, or, if all else fails, will briefly speed up /slow down so they MIGHT get the message that I am a faster vehicle trying to pass. I feel it is never safe to ride anyone's bumper. IF someone is intentionally blocking traffic, because they feel that it is civil duty or philosophic duty or for some unfathomable reason, I feel they deserve, at the very least, derision. (Sorry this is soooooooo long.)
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From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) Subject: Re: BRAINDEAD Drivers Who Don't Look Ahead-- Keywords: bad drivers Organization: Corporation for Open Systems Distribution: usa Lines: 52 In <1993Apr14.230524.9578@ctp.com> bpita@ctp.com (Bob Pitas) writes: >In article <zdem0a.734707529@hgo7> zdem0a@hgo7.hou.amoco.com (Donna Martz) writes: >[Stuff Deleted] >> >>Excuse me, but I understood what Mr. Smith meant. AND, I have often observed >>when traffic is "blocked solid", that if a few people yeild to the "moron" >>who is impatiently riding bumpers, the slug at the front of the pack will >>miraculously wake up, change lanes, and viola! no more jam. Granted the >>situation here does not apply to rush hour in a crowded city. But I have >>observed this situation regularly on your average interstate, six or >>eight sets of cars, side by side, bunched up in a "pack" with open >>freeway fore and aft as far as you can see. The people who refuse to >>yeild as a "point of honor" are just as annoying as the slug in the front. >I agree that if traffic is all blocked up and you want to pass, you might >not feel like moving over for someone behind you because you don't want to >give them that one car-length, when they should just wait like you are. >BUT, if you're one of those people that just sit's behind the person, and >doesn't flash them with the high beams, or pull left and flash them, or >ride their bumper, or otherwise tell them that you *do* in fact want to >go by, and you're not just drafting them, then get the hell out of the >way of someone who will! I especially hate it when you flash someone at >the back of a line and they don't 'pass it on'. So after I've flashed my lights at the chap in front and he doesn't 'pass it on' (and few if any do), what next? On major highways, 3 or more lanes in each direction, keeping to the extreme right blocks folks who are entering. Also, as someone posted in this thread, here in the D.C. area we have a few left lane exits (sounds like 66). If you wait until the last minute to get in the left lane you won't, cause these yoyos won't make room. We have a particularly bad strech here in Merryland just over the Cabin John bridge. There are two very long entry ramps which all the hurry-up yahoos dive into cause they want to get ahead. When we get to the point where these ramps merge, all hell breaks lose. The result is that traffic which was moving at 55 on the VA side of the bridge, stalls on t'other side. If these dingbats had stayed in lane, allowed the folks coming up the two ramps to merge, we would still be doing 55. Instead we do start- stop for 4 miles. Dave Barry's idea of a laser equipped car would be real useful here. Bob PS: If you drive the beltway and want to merge, look for a brown Probe with a silver haired driver, then use your signals - I don't read minds, but I do try to be courteous. They told me courtesy was contagious, but I guess the folks around here have had their shots :-/
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From: lsacks@angelo.amd.com (Larry Sacks) Subject: Re: Guns GONE. Good Riddance ! Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Lines: 29 jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes: >You are loosing. [stuff deleted] >Avoid situations which encourage criminals. Then you will >be as safe as possible. Such as it is ... Really? How do you avoid situations which encourage criminals? I'd really like to know. Would you, say, prohibit female college students from riding their bicycles near the university during the daytime? Sounds a bit drastic, doesn't it? Especially when the university is locatd in a nice residential area. A friend of mine was attacked and nearly raped in just this situation. The police didn't feel she was in a situation which 'encouraged criminals'. What do you think? Should we just tell her, that it was her fault for daring to ride a bicycle in the middle of the day? That she didn't avoid a situation that encouraged criminals? If that's the case, then we'd all better put bars on our doors and windows and pray for a police state to keep us all safe. Crime happens in all situations - there are no defined areas that criminals avoid. Larry Sacks Advanced Micro Devices lsacks@angelo.amd.com
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From: arc@cco.caltech.edu (Aaron Ray Clements) Subject: Re: the usual Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 41 Distribution: na NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes: >The possession of nuclear arms (actually weapons grade fissionables) is >currently regulated only by market forces. I.e.: To own them you have to >either make them, buy them or steal them. The only thing that stops you >is the staggering cost (more than most nations can afford), the fact that >no one who has them wants to sell to you and the tight security maintained >on existing stocks. (Just ask Saddam Hussein). I was under the impression that to obtain fissionable materials (i.e., plutonium or reactor/weapons-grade uranium) one was required to obtain a federal permit to own such materials. >Given a source of fissionables, you can build a bomb in your garage with >parts from hardware stores and electronic junk supplies. You might have >to engage in some shady dealings to get the explosive charge, but that's >trivial compared to getting the plutonium. The basic information on the >design was declassified years ago and can be dug out of any technical >library by a physics grad student. Actually, why bother looking it up? From the material we covered last term (in 10 weeks) of Ge/Ch 127 (Nuclear Chemistry), I could *derive* what it would take to build a bomb. And as far as the explosive charge, I (as a chemist) could synthesize a variety of explosives from commonly available chemicals in the garage if I felt like. The electronics behind the detonator and the shaped charges are a little trickier, however . . . but not impossible using a few "tricks of the trade." And if I really wanted to be nasty, I could include a core of hydrogen and deuterium . . . Of course, the hardest part is getting the fissionable material to start with, and living long enough to put a bomb together. (Plutonium has some *nasty* properties . . .) >The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com) >Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp Laws define crime. >3100 Ocean Park Blvd. (310) 450-9111, x2483 Police enforce laws. >Santa Monica, CA 90405 Citizens prevent crime. aaron arc@cco.caltech.edu
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From: ayari@judikael.loria.fr (Ayari Iskander) Subject: Re: How to beat Pittsburgh! Organization: Crin - Inria-Lorraine Lines: 55 In article <1993Apr15.214902.3372@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>, apanjabi@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes: |> In article <AfnKOVK00UhB01RDtJ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Robert Angelo Pleshar <rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: |> > <kfnJYea00Uh_I1VmUs@andrew.cmu.edu> |> > NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu |> > In-Reply-To: <kfnJYea00Uh_I1VmUs@andrew.cmu.edu> |> > |> > from Anna Matyas: |> >>>Now if we could just clone Chelios's personality and transplant it |> >>>into all of the defensemen on the Islanders, Capitals, and Devils... |> >>> |> >>>Gerald |> >> |> >>In other words, you want to turn them all into assholes so they |> >>will spend lots of time in the penalty box and get lots of |> >>misconducts? |> >> |> >>And this comes from a Chelios fan... |> > |> > Yeah, and also be second in the team in scoring and play about 35 |> > minutes a game and play on the power play and kill penalties and be the |> > best defenseman in the league. I'd take a whole team of Chelioses if I |> > could. (That way, when one got a penalty the others could kill it!) |> > |> > Ralph |> |> >HOW TO BEAT PITTSBURGH??? |> |> I.Mario Lemieux |> A.Death |> 1.Too much Kimo |> 2.Slash to skull |> 3.Ask the Rangers (Slashing his wrist????) |> II.Jaromir Jagr |> A.Deportation |> 1.Send him back to whatever Commie country |> he's from |> 2.Tell him that Bill Clinton is going too |> III.Kevin Stevens |> A.Fighting |> 1.Call Bob Probert |> 2.Call Tie Domi |> 3.Call my grandmother (She'd kick his ass) |> Since everybody wants to see Pittsburgh players not playing, the Stanley cup would be devaluated. -- _____________________________________________________ Iskander AYARI Email : Iskander.Ayari@loria.fr ou ayari@loria.fr _____________________________________________________
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: tuberculosis Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 26 In article <1993Mar29.181406.11915@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes: > >Multiple drug resistance in TB is a relatively new phenomenon, and >one of the largest contributing factors is that people are no longer >as scared of TB as they were before antibiotics. (It was roughly as >feared as HIV is now...) > Not that new. 20 years ago, we had drug addicts harboring active TB that was resistant to everything (in Chicago). The difference now is that such strains have become virulent. In the old days, such TB was weak. It didn't spread to other people very easily and just infected the one person in whom it developed (because of non-compliance with medications). Non-compliance and development of resistant strains has been a problem for a very long time. That is why we have like 9 drugs against TB. There is always a need to develop new ones due to such strains. Now, however, with a virulent resistant strain, we are in more trouble, and measures to assure compliance may be necessary even if they entail force. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM (John Fox - SunExpress IR) Subject: Re: Jeep Grand vs. Toyota 4-Runner Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 54 Distribution: world Reply-To: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM NNTP-Posting-Host: hooksett.east.sun.com In article IGw@world.std.com, edwards@world.std.com (Jonathan Edwards) writes: >I am considering buying one of these two vehicles (new). >I want a fun-to-drive family vehicle that can go through anything. >The Jeep is very popular, and has the features. All-Wheel-Drive, 4 wheel >anti-lock, roomy passenger cabin (but limited cargo with an internal spare). >THe Toyota is an aging design with only part-time 4-wheel and only rear >anti-lock (and no anti-lock in 4WD!). It also has a very inconvenient >rear gate, not to mention awkward ingress to the passenger cabin. > Any reason you are limited to the two mentioned? They aren't really at the same point along the SUV spectrum - not to mention price range. How about the Explorer, Trooper, Blazer, Montero, and if the budget allows, the Land Cruiser? Bear in mind that 90% of all SUV's purchased never venture off-road. Carefully weigh the trade-off between comfort and off-road performance when choosing one, and realistically decide whether you'll actually make enough use of the off-road-ability to sacrifice (some of) the on-road comfort. John John
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From: bob@nntp.crl.com (Bob Ames) Subject: Re: UNIX PC Software for sale Organization: CRL Internet Dialup Access (415-389-UNIX login: guest) Lines: 1 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: crl.com
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From: ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita) Subject: Re: "Choleric" and The Great NT/NF Semantic War. Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 6 Also remember that most people map the sanguine/choleric/melencholic/phlegmatic division onto the extraversion and neuroticism dimensions (Like Eysenck) and that the MBTI does not deal with neuroticism (Costa & McCrae). Frank Fujita
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From: msnyder@nmt.edu (Rebecca Snyder) Subject: public awareness (wasRe: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption) Organization: New Mexico Tech Distribution: na Lines: 50 In article <2076@rwing.UUCP> pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes: >I think this is no accident. It comes from the same philosophy that >the government rules/controls the people, not the people controlling >the government, that the unconnected citizens are not sophisticated enough >to know what is best for them, so the government must tell the people >what they need or do not need ... "we know best...". And the idea that >that a commoner can defend himself against government eavesdropping >or unlawful attack is totally unacceptable to people with this outlook. > > >Combine this all with pushing for national identity cards with 'smart >chips' to encode anything they please (internal passport) under the >guise of streamlining the State People's Health Care System, and with >(you can be certain) more jewels yet to come, and one sees an extremely >ominous trend. So what if "1984" will be ten years late... it still is >turning out to be an amazingly accurate prophecy... unless a LOT of >people wake up, and in a hurry. > >One should ALWAYS have every red warning light and bell and danger flag >come up when the government seeks to set itself apart in regard to >rights, etc. from the unconnected/unprivileged citizen (or should we >now be saying 'subject' instead?)... Why SHOULDN'T the average person >have a good, secure system of data security, not dependent on nebulous >'safeguards' for maintaining that security? Why SHOULDN'T the average >person be able to defend himself from an agency gone rogue? 0I am sure >the Feds could break into any data they really wanted to (but it would >take some WORK), and using the same logic, one should not be allowed to >have a good safe, unless a duplicate of the key(s) or combination are >submitted for 'safekeeping' by the government? I don't really see a >difference, philosophically. Encrypted data sure won't evaporate, not >with such high-tech tools as a TAPE RECORDER... > The average amerikan today seems to think that the government should be able to eavesdrop on everyone (else). Opinion polls show that most people belive the Bill of Rights to grant too much freedom to people, when it is not identified as such (BTW, if anyone knows of a cite for that, I'd love to have it). Not only does this mean that these people are willing to give up everyone (else's) rights, they don't even know what the Bill of Rights actually says. How can we show the average person (not the average USENET reader) that people are actually entitiled to these rights? So many people don't care if the government is taking more and more control of us all, a little at a time. If there was some sort of awareness of what the government is trying to do by a majority of the US population... Just think about what could be accomplished - but there are so many that trust, unthinkingly, in whatever the media and government tell them.
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From: dcg6759@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () Subject: Quantum SCSI 40mb Hard Drive For Sale Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 30 Hi, I have a Quantum ProDrive LPS 40 MB SCSI hard drive for sale. It came with my MacIIsi and was replaced by a larger hard drive. In great working condition. Fast and quiet. Never had a problem. Asking $100+COD shipping or reasonable offer. Also for sale with the drive: Brand new mounting bracket for MacII or MacSE. It also includes SCSI data and power cable. $10 with the HD. Please reply with email or call (217)337-5710 and leave message. Thanks. Ding-Kai Chen dcg6759@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu uiuc.classifieds uiuc.classifieds.computer misc.forsale misc.forsale.computer misc.forsale.computer.mac misc.forsale.computer.other misc.forsale.computer.pc-clone
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From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) Subject: More on Center for Anti-Irsael Rhetoric Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu Dear Mr. Davidsson, You claim that your purpose is to fight racism. But you don't seem to have any interest in injustice except that which may have been committed by Israel. The treatment of Jews in Arab nations, an injustice of staggerring proportions, is an injustice that you do not seem to care the least bit about. Why not?
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From: jbore@cosmos.shearson.com (Joe Bore) Subject: Re: Need to find out number to a phone line In-Reply-To: alee@ecs.umass.edu's message of 18 Apr 93 15:04:10 GMT Organization: Lehman Brothers Lines: 33 try finding a friend that has caller id, then give him a call... jb In article <20756.2bd16dea@ecs.umass.edu> alee@ecs.umass.edu writes: Path: shearson.com!uupsi!psinntp!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!nic.umass.edu!risky.ecs.umass.edu!umaecs!alee From: alee@ecs.umass.edu Newsgroups: sci.electronics Date: 18 Apr 93 15:04:10 GMT Lines: 13 Greetings! Situation: I have a phone jack mounted on a wall. I don't know the number of the line. And I don't want to call up the operator to place a trace on it. Question: Is there a certain device out there that I can use to find out the number to the line? Thanks for any response. Al -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Bore | "Life is Short...Code Hard" jbore@Shearson.COM | ...!uunet!shearson.com!jbore| (212)464-3431, Beeper: (212)396-4248 |
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From: jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) Subject: Re: Don't fight Clipper Chip, subvert or replace it ! Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 22 Distribution: na NNTP-Posting-Host: achates.mit.edu In article <ygoland.735123994@wright> ygoland@wright.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester) writes: >Ignoring for the moment the question of patented processes (such as >Public Keys), can the government stop me from using an encryption >process? Following precedent in other areas, the government is likely to put a tax on encryption technology. Once the tax is imposed, it becomes a federal matter and suspicision of an unlicensed cryptographic tool will bring the BATF or FBI tossing grenades into your house. (The BATF appears to be the logical agency to enforce such regulations: federal control over alocohol, tobacco, and firearms is similary based on taxes.) Look at the FCC: they won't allow sale of any receiever that can receive bands that are supposed to be private. This has nothing to do with any desire to prevent harmful interference. If the government can make a radio receiver illegal what makes you think they won't claim the right to control encryption? -- John Carr (jfc@athena.mit.edu)
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From: yuri@physics.heriot-watt.ac.UK (Yuri Rzhanov) Subject: XView slider Organization: The Internet Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu To: xpert <xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu> Hi netters, I'm using sliders in my XView apps, usually with editable numeric field. But I seem to have no control over the length of this field. In some apps it appears long enough to keep several characters, in some - it cannot keep even the maximum value set by PANEL_MAX_VALUE! As I understand, PANEL_VALUE_DISPLAY_LENGTH, which controls number of characters to be displayed in text items, doesn't work in the case of slider, despite the fact that <panel.h> contains the following bit: /* Panel_multiline_text_item, Panel_numeric_text_item, * Panel_slider_item and Panel_text_item attributes */ PANEL_NOTIFY_LEVEL = PANEL_ATTR(ATTR_ENUM, 152), PANEL_VALUE_DISPLAY_LENGTH = PANEL_ATTR(ATTR_INT, 182), which gives a hint that this attribute can be used for sliders. But 1) setting this attribute gives nothing, and 2) xv_get'ting this attribute gives warning: Bad attribute, and return value 0. Can someone share his experience in managing sliders in XView with me, and clear this problem? Any help is very much appreciated. Yuri yuri@uk.ac.hw.phy
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From: pierson@phakt.usc.edu (Harry Pierson) Subject: Embedded TrueType Fonts Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu OK...I've heard rumors about this...I might have even seen it in a few places. And I'd like some info...Is it possible to embed fonts in a document (Like Write, Word, or Ami Pro?) so the file can be printed on another machine that doesn't have the font? If possible, how is it done? I'm sorry if this is a faq...I couldn't find a faq list...I would also apreciate knowing where that is...if a windows faq exsists. Thanks in advance -- =============================================================================== Harry Pierson | "Come and be with me, Live my twisted dream The Audio Mercenary | Pro devoted pledge, Time for primal concrete sledge" pierson@usc.edu | -Pantera
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From: tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) Subject: Re: Go Hizbollah II! Nntp-Posting-Host: orion.oac.uci.edu Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 26 In article <Apr26.175327.86241@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes: >In article <1993Apr24.202201.1@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>, ifaz706@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu (Noam Tractinsky) writes: >|> Paraphrasing a bit, with every rocket that >|> the Hizbollah fires on the Galilee, they justify Israel's >|> holding to the security zone. >|> >|> Noam > > > >I only want to say that I agree with Noam on this point >and I hope that all sides stop targeting civilians. > >Basil > Absolutely. I'm sure that civilians on both sides would be pleased if the fighters (military, guerilla, whatever) would just take their argument elsewhere, find an unpopulated area somewhere, and slug it out. At that point, we will all breath a sigh of relief *and* cheer for our side in the struggle. -- Tim Clock Ph.D./Graduate student UCI tel#: 714,8565361 Department of Politics and Society fax#: 714,8568441 University of California - Irvine Home tel#: 714,8563446 Irvine, CA 92717
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From: servis@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Brian K Servis) Subject: Re: Ghostscript for win fonts???? Keywords: ghostscript,fonts Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Lines: 26 servis@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Brian K Servis) writes: That's me.... >I just downloaded the Windows Ghostscript package(gswin252.zip,gs252ini.zip) >from ftp. When I load a PS file it says it cant find font and substitutes a >font called Ugly. It is substituting for basic fonts such as Helv, and Cour. >I would imagine that these fonts are included in its font library. Is there >something I am doing wrong or am missing? These Ugly fonts are not very clear >and well defined, as in sharpness, etc, basically they are ugly! Any advice >is welcome. Ok, I realize I have to get the font files from some ftp site. I found them at cica but I now have another question..... Are the 24*.zip fonts compatible with gswin252?? >Please email Brian Servis =========================================================================== || servis@author.ecn.purdue.edu || "It Happened This Way" || ===================================|| actual quotes from insurance claims|| || What I say may not be what I || || || think. What I say may not be || "The pedestrian had no idea which || || what Purdue thinks. || way to go, so I ran him over." || ===========================================================================
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) Subject: Re: Thumbs WAY WAY WAY DOWN to ESPN Keywords: Baseball, goddamn Baseball Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) Organization: PhDs In The Hall Lines: 36 cdash@moet.cs.colorado.edu (Charles Shub) writes: >Tuesday, and the isles/caps game is going into overtime. >what does ESPN do..... > >Tom Mees says, "we are obligated to bring you baseball" We're probably stuck, as Mike Burger pointed out that the baseball deal was made far in advance of the NHL contract. WABC did the same thing; they were thankful that the Devils were wiped out by 9:30, because they had to switch over to Yankees baseball. The proof of the reasons for this is left to the reader ... It's too bad, but I wonder if ESPN is stuck with other US local team coverage for their alternate games? We got NESN's coverage of the Bruins-Sabres with the Boston homers ... they were awful!!! I've read that Derek Sanderson is the colour analyst ... I wonder if he spent his early years after hockey as an intern at PRAVDA before landing this job? *Everything* had to be twisted into something good to say about the Bruin(s) involved ... not even Bill Wirtz's shills on SC Chicago (Pat Foley, Dale Tallon) were this bad. And just to be fair, SC used to take their feed from ESN (Empire Sports Network), the Sabre homers and they were horrible too ... but they were spacy. From the CNN highlights, I hear Chris Cuthbert's voice from the CBC coverage of the Habs-Nords series. Too bad that we couldn't get it on ESPN, with all due respect to the Sabres and the Bruins. Mike Emrick is substituting on the Devils SCNY team for Gary Thorne. Mike was the original Devils TV play-by-play announcer, by the way. gld -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gary L. Dare > gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!! > gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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From: Mike Diack <mike-d@staff.tc.umn.edu> Subject: Husky Programmer bits req'd X-Xxdate: Sat, 17 Apr 93 04:10:01 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: dialup-slip-1-90.gw.umn.edu Organization: persian cat & carpet co. X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7 Lines: 5 Help !! - I'm looking for a ISA driver card and driver software for a Logical Devices Husky programmer (It aint mush good without these) can anyone help with either of these items ? cheers Mike.
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From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack) Subject: Re: Final Solution for Gaza ? Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University Lines: 31 In article <1483500354@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes: Other people have commented on most of this swill, I figured I'd add a few comments of my own. >The Gaza strip, this tiny area of land with the highest population >density in the world, has been cut off from the world for weeks. Hong Kong, and Cairo both have higher population densities. >The Israeli occupier has decided to punish the whole population of >Gaza, some 700.000 people, by denying them the right to leave the >strip and seek work in Israel. There is no fundamental right to work in another country. And the closing of the strip is not a punishment, it is a security measure to stop people from stabbing Israelis. >The only help given to Gazans by Israeli >Jews, only dozens of people, is humanitarian assistance. Dozens minus one, since one of them was stabbed to death a few days ago. Adam Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu "If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
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From: jamal@socrates.umd.edu (Jamal Asi) Subject: Comics : The complete set of the ad. of Buck Rogers in the 25th century Organization: University of Maryland University College Lines: 5 The complete set of the adventures of Buck Rogers is forsale. Make a REASONABLE offer. Email me back if interested. Thanks. jamal@socrates.umd.edu
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From: sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) Subject: Re: Science and methodology (was: Homeopathy ... tradition?) Originator: sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com Nntp-Posting-Host: theseus.unx.sas.com Organization: SAS Institute Inc. Lines: 43 In article <1993Apr15.200344.28013@cs.rochester.edu>, fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk) writes: |> 2) Science has not historically progressed in any sort of rational |> experiment-data-theory sequence. Most experiments are carried out, and |> interpreted, in pre-existing theoretical frameworks. The theoretical |> controversies of the day determine which experiments get done. Overall, |> there is a huge messy affair of personal jealousies, crazy motivations, |> petty hatreds, and the like that determines which experiments, and which |> computations, get done. What keeps it going forward is the critical |> function of science: results don't count unless they can be replicated. |> |> The whole system is a sort of mechanism for generate-and-test. The generate |> part can be totally irrational, as long as the test part works properly. I think we agree on much. However the paragraphs above seem to repeat uncritically the standard Kuhn/Lakatos/Feyerabend view of "progress" and "rationality" in science. Since I've addressed these issues in this newsgroup in the not too distant past, I won't go into them again now. What is wrong with the above observation is that it explicitly gives the impression (and you may not in fact hold this view) that the common (perhaps even the "correct") approach for a scientist to follow is to sit around having flights of fancy and scheming on the basis of his jealousies and petty hatreds. It further at least implicitly advances the position that sciences goes "forward" (and it is not clear what this means given the context in which it occurs) by generating in a completely non-rational and even random way a plethora of hypotheses and theories that are then weeded out via the "critical function" of science. (Though why this critical function should be less subject to the non-rational forces is a mystery. If experimental design, hypotheses creation, and theory construction are subject to jealousies and petty hatreds, then this must be equally true of the application of any "critical function" concerning replication. This is what leads one (ala Feyerabend) to an "anything goes" view.) True, the generation part *can* be totally irrational. But typically it is *not*. Anecdotes concerning instances where a hypothesis seems to have resulted in some way from a dream or from one's political views simply do not generalize well to the actual history of science. -- Gary H. Merrill [Principal Systems Developer, C Compiler Development] SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC 27513 / (919) 677-8000 sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm
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From: hardwick@panix.com (Paul Hardwick) Subject: Re: PC Syquest on a Mac?? Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC Lines: 35 In <1qsk6u$d8l@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> rcs8@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert C. Sprecher) writes: >Is it possible, ie via creative cable splicing or whatever, to >hook a Syquest 44MB removable drive to a Mac? >Is there any difference with the guts of the drive or is it >just cable differences? >Thanks. Their should be no difference in the drive itself between IBM-PC and Mac. The two main differences are the formatting of the disk itself (but with the correct software each can read the others) and maybe the cable (depends on your SCSI board on IBM-PC). If you get some Mac softawre to allow mounting of ANY IBM-formatted disk and the correct cable you should br able to mount and read your IBM-PC syquest. good luck, --Paul -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Paul Hardwick | Technical Consulting | InterNet: hardwick@panix.com | | P.O. Box 1482 | for MVS (SP/XA/ESA) | Voice: (212) 535-0998 | | NY, NY 10274 | and 3rd party addons | Fax: (212) Pending | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Paul Hardwick | Technical Consulting | InterNet: hardwick@panix.com | | P.O. Box 1482 | for MVS (SP/XA/ESA) | Voice: (212) 535-0998 | | NY, NY 10274 | and 3rd party addons | Fax: (212) Pending |
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat) Subject: Re: Stephen Hawking Tours JPL Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA Lines: 23 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Keywords: JPL In article <23APR199317325771@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes: > Using a model of Mars Observer, Albee spent several minutes >describing the project and the spacecraft's features. In answer >to a question from Hawking, Chahine described a proposed >drag-free satellite, but confirmed that at this point, "it's only >a concept." Chahine, who had met Hawking at Caltech about five Too bad they didn't give him a tour of the CGRO data? I think he'd be fascinated by the Gamma ray bursters. The mind of hawking might even propose a mechanism. SO what's a drag free satellite? coated with WD-40? carries an aluminum-gold set of grateful dead albums? inquiring minds want to know? And why would MO carry any features for being drag free? I thought aero-braking was a possible MO experimental activity? pat
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From: smithmc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lost Boy) Subject: Re: Can men get yeast infections? Organization: Purdue University Computing Center Distribution: na Lines: 25 In article <noringC5Fnx2.2v2@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes: >In article Tammy.Vandenboom@launchpad.unc.edu (Tammy Vandenboom) writes: > >>Here's a potentially stupid question to possibly the wrong news group, but. . >> >>Can men get yeast infections? Spread them? What kind of symptoms? >>Similar as women's? I have a yeast infection and my husband (who is a >>natural paranoid on a good day) is sure he's gonna catch it and keeps >>asking me what it's like. I'm not sure what his symptoms would be. . > >The answer is yes and no. I'm sure others on sci.med can expand on this. > >Jon I know from personal experience that men CAN get yeast infections. I get rather nasty ones from time to time, mostly in the area of the scrotum and the base of the penis. They're nowhere near as dangerous for me as for many women, but goddamn does it hurt in the summertime! Even in the wintertime, when I sweat I get really uncomfy down there. The best thing I can do to keep it under control is keep my weight down and keep cool down there. Shorts in 60 degree weather, that kind of thing. And of course some occasional sun. Lost Boy
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: Medication For Parkinsons Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 15 In article <19621.3049.uupcb@factory.com> jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein) writes: >If you want to throw around names, Drs. Donald Calne, Terry Elizan, >and Jesse Cedarbaum don't recommend selegiline (not to mention Dr. >William Landau). > Gosh, Jesse is that famous now? He was my intern. Landau not liking it makes me like it out of spite. (Just kidding, Bill). -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------