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8700 | From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack)
Subject: Re: Ten questions about Israel
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Lines: 64
In article <1483500349@igc.apc.org> cpr@igc.apc.org (Center for Policy Research) writes:
Ten Questions about arab countries
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I would be thankful if any of you who live in arab countries could
help to provide accurate answers to the following specific questions.
These are indeed provocative questions but they are asked time and
again by people around me.
1. Is it true that many arab countries don't recognize
Israeli nationality ? That people with Israeli stamps on their
passports can't enter arabic countries?
2. Is it true that arabic countries such as Jordan and Syria
have undefined borders and that arab governments from 1948 until today
have refused to state where the ultimate borders of their states
should be?
3. Is it true that arab countires refused to sign the Chemical
weapon convention treaty in Paris in 1993?
4. Is it true that in arab prisons there are a number of
individuals which were tried in secret and for which their
identities, the date of their trial and their imprisonment are
state secrets ?
4a. Is it true that some arab countries, like Syria, harbor Nazi
war criminals, and refuse to extradite them?
4b. Is it true that some arab countries, like Saudi Arabia,
prohibit women from driving cars?
5. Is it true that Jews who reside in the Muslim
countries are subject to different laws than Muslims?
6. Is it true that arab countries confiscated the property of
entire Jewish communites forced to flee by anti-Jewish riots?
7. Is it true that Israel's Prime Minister, Y. Rabin, signed
a chemical weapons treaty that no arab nation was willing to sign?
8. Is it true that Syrian Jews are required to leave a $10,000
deposit before leaving the country, and are no longer allowed to
emmigrate, despite promises made by Hafez Assad to George Bush?
9. Is it true that Jews in Muslim lands are required to pay a
special tax, for being Jews?
10. Is it true that Intercontinental Hotel in Jerusalem was built
on a Jewish cemetary, with roads being paved over grave sites, and
gravestones being used in Jordanian latrines?
11. Is it really cheesy and inappropriate to post lists of biased
leading questions?
11a. Is it less appropriate if information implied in Mr.
Davidsson's questions is highly misleading?
Adam
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
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8701 | From: mlj@af3.mlb.semi.harris.com (Marvin Jaster )
Subject: FOR SALE
Nntp-Posting-Host: sunsol.mlb.semi.harris.com
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL
Keywords: FOR SALE
Lines: 46
I am selling my Sportster to make room for a new FLHTCU.
This scoot is in excellent condition and has never been wrecked or abused.
Always garaged.
1990 Sportster 883 Standard (blue)
factory 1200cc conversion kit
less than 8000 miles
Branch ported and polished big valve heads
Screamin Eagle carb
Screamin Eagle cam
adjustable pushrods
Harley performance mufflers
tachometer
new Metzeler tires front and rear
Progressive front fork springs
Harley King and Queen seat and sissy bar
everything chromed
O-ring chain
fork brace
oil cooler and thermostat
new Die-Hard battery
bike cover
price: $7000.00
phone: hm 407/254-1398
wk 407/724-7137
Melbourne, Florida
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8702 | From: lusardi@cs.buffalo.edu (Christopher Lusardi)
Subject: System file in /tmp
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Lines: 10
Nntp-Posting-Host: zanian.cs.buffalo.edu
What is the directory .X11-unix for in /tmp? When I start
x, it is created by the system. This directory wasn't created
by root, and it contains an empty file (X0) that is owned by me.
--
| .-, ###|For a lot of .au music: ftp sounds.sdsu.edu
| / / __ , _ ###|then cat file.au > /dev/audio
| \_>/ >_/ (_/\_/<>_ |UB library catalog:telnet bison.acsu.buffalo.edu
|_ 14261 _|(When in doubt ask: xarchie, xgopher, or xwais.)
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8703 | From: nshah@acs2.bu.edu
Subject: SIMM for Sale
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Lines: 6
Originator: nshah@acs2.bu.edu
I have 1 4Mx9 70ns 36pin SIMM for Sale. It is in perfect condition. It
will not work in my system because it requires 72 pin SIMMS.
I would like to get what I paid for it. $115 + 3 for insured shipping.
In addition, if you have a 4MB 70ns 72 pin EISA or PS/2 type SIMM for
sale, drop me a line. Thanks. Nimesh Shah nshah@acs.bu.edu
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8704 | From: vidaros@dhhalden.no (VIDAR OLAF SOLBERG)
Subject: Type spesifications (CB, VFR, GT, etc.)
Lines: 16
Nntp-Posting-Host: pc159
Organization: Ostfold College
Can somebody tell me what all the letter spesifications on motorcycle models
really mean.
Example: What means the C, the B and the R in Honda CBR. - Or the V, S, G, L
and P in Suzuki VS750GLP
I wanna distribute this in our club magazine. I want lists of all types, but
I already knows about Harley.
Thanks in advance!
Vidar
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Vidar O. Solberg - NORWAY * ROCK HARD * RIDE FREE *
"We are the proud, the few and the true Metallibashers!"
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8705 | From: genek@ucsb.edu (Gene Kostruba)
Subject: Diamond Speedstar HiColor card
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Lines: 15
I have a 486DX33 ISA system with 4 meg. I am using a Diamond Speedstar HiColor
video card with 1 meg VRAM and a standard CTX 14-in SVGA monitor. When I am
running Windows, and I have overlapping windows (say an application overlapping
the program manager window), and I close the active application, window erasure
is very slow. The part of the window that is not overlapping is erased first,
very slowly. This also happens when I iconify an application.
The HiColor card is advertised as a faster-than-standard video card, but it
does not have an accelerator chip on it. I am running at 800x600x32k. Is this
slow speed simply to be expected without an accelerator chip, or is there
something else that is bottlenecking the system that I am unaware of?
Thanks.
(You can mail to me directly if you wish, at genek@cs.ucsb.edu).
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8706 | From: yoo@engr.ucf.edu (Hoi Yoo)
Subject: looking for USA map
Organization: engineering, University of Central Florida, Orlando
Lines: 11
Does anyone out there have or know of, line drawing USA map?
Thanks very much in advance,
Hoi
yoo@engr.ucf.edu
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8707 | From: Brian.Vaughan@um.cc.umich.edu (Brian Vaughan)
Subject: FOR SALE 1988 Kawasaki EX-500 (Michigan)
Article-I.D.: um.Brian.Vaughan.1.734105018
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Michigan
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: dss1.uis.itd.umich.edu
For sale 1988 Kawasaki EX-500 with 6682 miles.
Excellent condition. Kept in a garage. Asking $2200.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
He who Joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already
earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by
mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice.
-- Albert Einstein --
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Brian Vaughan brian_vaughan@um.cc.umich.edu
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8708 | From: denis@apldbio.com (Denis Concordel)
Subject: *** For sale: 1988 Husqvarna 510TE ***
Distribution: ba,ca
Organization: Applied Biosystems, Inc
Lines: 42
For sale:
Model : Husqvarna 510 TE (enduro model)
Year : 1988
Engine : 500 cc Four Stroke
Extras : - 1992 ignition (for easy starting)
- Suspension by Aftershock
- Custom carbon fiber/Kevlar skid plate
- Quick steering geometry
- Stock (EPA legal and quiet) exhaust system
- Bark busters and hand guards
- Motion Pro clutch cable
Price : $2200
Contact: Denis Concordel E-Mail: denis@apldbio.com
MaBell: (415) 570 6667 (work)
(415) 494 7109 (home)
I am selling my trusty Husky... hopefully to buy a Husaberg... This is
a very good dirt bike and has been maintained perfectly. I never had
any problems with it.
It's a four stroke, 4 valves, liquid cooled engine. It is heavier than
a 250 2 stroke but still lighter than a Honda XR600 and has a lot better
suspension (Ohlins shock, Husky fork) than the XR. For the casual or non
competitive rider, the engine is much better than any two stroke.
You can easily lug up hills and blast through trails with minimum gear
changes.
The 1992 ignition and the carefully tuned carburation makes this bike
very easy to start (starts of first kick when cold or hot). There is a
custom made carbon/kevlar (light 1 pound) wrap around skid plate to protect
the engine cases and the water pump. The steering angle has been reduced
by 2 degree to increase steering quickness. This with the suspension tune-up
by Phil Douglas of Aftershock (Multiple time ISDE rider) gives it a better
ride than most bike: plush suspension, responsive steering with no head shake.
So if it is such a good bike why sell it???? Gee, I want to buy a Husaberg,
which just a husky but 25 pounds lighter... and a tad more $$$.
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8709 | From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: images of earth
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Lines: 39
In article <1993Apr20.143434.5069@cs.ruu.nl> clldomps@cs.ruu.nl (Louis van Dompselaar) writes:
>In <1993Apr19.193758.12091@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:
>
>>Beware. There is only one such *copyrighted* image and the company
>>that generated is known to protect that copyright. That image took
>>hundreds of man-hours to build from the source satellite images,
>>so it is unlikely that competing images will appear soon.
>
>So they should sue the newspaper I got it from for printing it.
>The article didn't say anything about copyrights.
(1) No explicit (c) is necessary. If it the image is attributed to the
Geosphere Company, then there is a likelihood permission is has been
given to reprint.
(2) Unlikely that the owner can or will go after individuals.
However, "interesting" images do make their way into ads and
computer demos. That is when a pirate might get some flak.
This image is considered so "interesting" that many people would
like to use it whenever some global map is needed, so there
is lots of temptation.
(3) One mail person said since the source data- satellite imagery-
is not copyrighted, then the derived image can't be. Not true.
A new, distinctive, creative expression of the data can be protected.
This image is certainly fits such, since NO ONE ELSE has taken the
tremendous effort to re-create it themselves. Precedent is a recent
telephone book court case. Ma Bell tried to copyright the data in
their books and prevent competitors from copying it (there are
trick entries in the book). But the court only permitted copyright
of the expression of the data, and not the data themselves. (You cant
xerox and sell the telephone book.)
(4) There will be more attention to digital copyrights in the future
and computer becomes a mass product and moguls such as Bill Gates
are currently hoarding the digital copyrights.
(5) I'd prefer that Geosphere put this data in the public domain because
it is very interesting to me and others, but that's the way things are.
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8710 | From: u0mrm@csc.liv.ac.uk (M.R. Mellodew)
Subject: Re: If There Were No Hell
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University
Lines: 31
In article <May.5.02.51.25.1993.28737@athos.rutgers.edu>, shellgate!llo@uu4.psi.com (Larry L. Overacker) writes:
> Here's a question that some friends and I were debating last night.
>
> Q: If you knew beyond all doubt that hell did not exist and that
> unbelievers simply remained dead, would you remain a Christian?
>
> My contention is that if you answer this question with "No. I would
> not then remain a Christian" then you really are not one now.
> Following Jesus Christ has everything to do with sharing in
> his work and spreading the news that the Kingdom of Heaven is already
> among us. Fear-based religion is not a faith-relationship with the
> One Who made us all.
So does that mean that anyone who is a Christian to avoid Hell isn't really
a Christian at all? It sounds like it to me.
Mit Liebe in Christus,
Martyn R. Mellodew. (u0mrm@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk)
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Martyn R. Mellodew, | E-mail: u0mrm@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk
Department of Applied Mathematics | ARPA/Internet: u0mrm@csc.liv.ac.uk
and Theoretical Physics, | JANET: u0mrm@uk.ac.liv.csc
The University of Liverpool, |
P.O. Box 147, |
Liverpool, |
England, |
L69 9BX. | `Dubito ergo Deus est.'
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8711 | From: franti@polaris.utu.fi (Pasi Fr{nti)
Subject: Re: Helsinki/Stockholm & NHL expansion?
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Lines: 25
MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>Not too low perhaps, but surely not as high as that of an European NHL
>division. The Finnish team, for example, would contain all players currently on
>the national team plus a top-class foreigner or two. They would be in an
>entirely different league than TPS or Jokerit, both of whom have perhaps a
>dozen players of international class - if even that. Why settle for a minor
>league when you could have the best?
It is no matter what you call the teams, Jokerit and TPS, or Helsinki Tornado
and Turku Typhoon, the best palyers in Finland would eventually end up in
those teams anyway, if they were in the "big" league.
>I'd rather spend 150 Marks to watch the Helsinki Tornado play Montreal, the NY
>Rangers or Los Angeles than 50 Marks(?) for the privilege to see Jokerit vs.
>JypHT or even Djurgardens IF. There's nothing like the NHL, period.
Unrealistic for now. Maybe we should first just expand Finnish league to
allow teams from Baltic countries to entry! Then others will get interested
in the idea, that maybe one should settle something bigger. The ultimate
goal, as you want it, would be European Division in NHL. Btw. does that
make a final with an Europan team against Norht American?
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8712 | Subject: Re: Traffic morons
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford)
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State University
Nntp-Posting-Host: stafford.winona.msus.edu
Lines: 16
In article <C5sHD0.LH6@athena.cs.uga.edu>, ahatcher@athena.cs.uga.edu
(Allan Hatcher) wrote:
>
> You can't make a Citizens arrest on anything but a felony.
I'm not sure that's true. Let me rephrase; "You can file a complaint
which will bring the person into court." As I understand it, a
"citizens arrest" does not have to be the physical detention of
the person.
Better now?
====================================================
John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona
All standard disclaimers apply.
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8713 | From: dbak@elm.lle.rochester.edu (Douglas Baker)
Subject: Performance of new Mustangs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Article-I.D.: galileo.1993Apr6.170901.7684
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY
Lines: 9
Nntp-Posting-Host: elm.lle.rochester.edu
Does anyone know the performance ratings for a 1992 or 1993
5.0 L HO Mustang LX like the 0-60 time 1/4 mile and top end ???
Also can you tell me which magazine where these #'s come from so I
can look them up if possable ???? If you could the year and month and
eveen page # if you have it.
Thanks,
Doug
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8714 | From: REXLEX@fnal.fnal.gov
Subject: Assurance of Hell
Organization: FNAL/AD/Net
Lines: 139
I dreamed that the great judgment morning had dawned,
and the trumpet had blown.
I dreamed that the sinners had gathered for judgment
before the white throne.
Oh what weeping and wailing as the lost were told of their fate.
They cried for the rock and the mountains.
They prayed, but their prayers were too late.
The soul that had put off salvation,
"Not tonight I'll get saved by and by.
No time now to think of ....... religion,"
Alas, he had found time to die.
And I saw a Great White Throne.
Now, some have protest by saying that the fear of hell is not good for
motivation, yet Jesus thought it was. Paul thought it was. Paul said,
"Knowing therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men."
Today, too much of our evangelism is nothing but soft soap and some of
it is nothing but evangelical salesmanship. We don't tell people anymore, that
there's such a thing as sin or that there's such a place as hell.
As Jayne has said, this doesn't mean we have to come on so strong so as to hit
people over the head with a baseball bat. Yet the fact remains, there is a
place called hell. A place so fearful that God died to save us from having to
experience it. Whatever you or I, as Christians, do, we should do whatever we
can to win people to the Lord, if for no other reason, to keep them from going
to "outer darkness.".
Jesus, in Mt. 25, tells us that He didn't prepare hell for people. He prepared
it for the Devil and his angels. No where in the Bible do I read -anywhere,
that God predestined anybody to go to hell. D.L. Moody use to say that the
elect are the "whosoever will" and the nonelect are the "whosoever wont's."
Whether or not that's theologically sound, I couldn't defend, but its
practical. Jesus said to the people of Israel, "Ye would not."
Now, some of you may not be students of the Bible, heck -some of you may not be
Christians. Have you ever said to somebody, "I don't believe in hell. I
believe in the religion of Jesus." But did you know that Jesus talked more
about hell than He did about heaven! "Oh I believe in the religion of the
sermon on the mount." You find hell taught by Jesus in the sermon on the
mount. You'll read that Jesus talked about the tree being cast into the fire.
Several times he talks about hell and about judgment. In fact, over and over
in the synoptics, Matthew, Mark and Luke, Jesus talks about hell. Not Isaiah.
Not Moses. Not John the Baptist, though he did, but Jesus, the Son of God.
The great Beloved One preached about hell because He loved people and didn't
want to see them go there.
Now, if there is no hell then Jesus preached in vain. It was our Lord Jesus,
not some angry Baptist preacher, that said, "where the worm never dies, and
where the fire never goes out." Jesus said that. It was Jesus who called hell
a "furnace of fire." It was Jesus that used the word, "condemnation." "And
this is the condemnation, that men love darkness rather than light because
their deeds are evil. Jesus said that.
How can we get it across to you that a loving, dying Jesus preached about hell?
Not only that, but He went through hell. That's what Calgary was all about.
When my Lord was on the cross, darkness fell. He called hell, "outer
darkness."
Do you have this idea that hell is a place where the gamblers are gambling over
here, the drunks are getting drunk over there, and the prostitutes are
prostituting their bodies over there? That's not what hell is. Hell's not a
party. There's no fellowship there. He called it "outer darkness." "Outer"
-away from God. "Darkness" -God is light.
No when He was on the cross, He was made sin for you and for me. God treated
Jesus the way sinners have to be treated. That's is a sobering thought. As my
son would say, an "awesome" thought.
"My God, My God why hast Thou forsaken me?" Hell is isolation. There's no
fellowship in hell. There's no friendship in hell. There's no loving embrace
in hell. There's no hand shake in hell. There's no word of encouragement in
hell.
"I thirst." It goes much deeper than physical thirst. Hell is eternal craving
with no satisfaction. The man whose life was lived for drugs, will crave it
eternally. The man whose life was lived for the lust of a woman's body, will
crave it eternally -and not be satisfied. One theologian has put it this way
and I think it deserves merit. What is hell? Hell is just the kind of
environment that matches the internal condition of the lost.
In a recent post, I was trying to remember the founder of The Word of Life
ministries. I've remembered his name, Jack Wertzen, and found that the
illustration that I gave wasn't his. His illustration was that he was talking
to his barber and his barber's wife and daughter had just recently been saved
and he was commenting about it to Jack. "They sing these songs and read Bible
verses, and their praising this and that -I can't stand it! Jack, do you think
God would send me to hell?" Jack answered by saying, "Yes I think he would!"
Of course the barber said, "What do you mean by that." "Well if you can't
stand living at home with your wife and daughter who sing hymns and praises to
God now, what would you do in heaven where they'll do it for eternity? You'd
be miserable. Because God loves you, He'd put you where it would match what
you really are." It makes a man think.
The crucifixion of Jesus Christ is a fact that necessitates the eternal
existence of hell because on the cross He performed an eternal act. Don't ask
me how, I don't know. But He is God and He is the infinite/eternal and when He
died, He died an infinite/eternal death. It is by that eternal act that He
purchased eternal life for the "whosoever wills." He suffered eternal
judgment.
A lot of people would like to detour around hell by saying "Everybody is going
to be saved eventually." -universalism. My Bible says no, He'll separate
them. The sheep from the goats. ".After you die there's a probationary period
in which God prepares you for heaven." No, my Bible says that "It is appointed
unto men once to die and then comes judgment." Some of the cultist believe in
annihilation. After you die, sssswish. Just like a mosquito you're squished
out. No, in Rev we are told that their is eternal existence in hell just as
there is in heaven.
I don't enjoy making these kind of statements and maybe you don't enjoy
listening to them, but we have to preach the entire Word of God. -There is a
place called hell. If I could give one verse of Scripture that could give any
hope that people aren't going there, I'd give it to you, but I haven't found
it. That fact that there is a place called hell, the fact that our God is a
God of holiness and must judge sin, the fact that He has made us the kind of
creatures we are and therefore we're responsible, the fact that He has placed
us in a "uni"verse that has purpose and design behind it, the fact that sin is
such an awful thing and the fact that God Himself went through hell to save us
from hell leads us to two applications.
1) As I've already mentioned. If you are a Christian, you must worn others.
Its not good enough to stop and fix their flat tire and not tell them that just
around the bend the bridge is out. "Knowing therefore the terror of Lord, we
persuade men."
2) If you haven't accepted Jesus are your Savior, you're taking an awful
chance. As I say to the Jehovah Witnesses (who no longer frequent my door), if
you are right and I am wrong, then I will have lived a good life and will die
and cease to exist, but if I am right and you are wrong, then you will die and
suffer eternal damnation. I don't mean to make fun at this point, but its like
Dirty Harry said, "You've got to ask yourself, 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do
you?" "A man's got to know his limitations." Don't be one of the "whosoever
wont's."
"Because while I was yet a sinner, He died for me."
"There's no greater love than this, that a man lay down his life for another."
--Rex
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8715 | From: egaillou@etu.gel.ulaval.ca (Eric Gailloux)
Subject: A StyleWriter II question
Nntp-Posting-Host: miniac.etu.gel.ulaval.ca
Organization: Universite Laval
Lines: 3
I just read an article on the SWII. One thing puzzles me: the article says the
SWII is a serial-only device. Does that mean I'll have to unplug my modem each
time I want to print something???
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8716 | From: eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler)
Subject: Re: The state of justice
Organization: NWO Steering Committee
Lines: 52
In <1993Apr15.143320.8618@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu sez:
> A judge denied GM's new trial motion, even though GM says it has two
>new witnesses that said the occupant of the truck was dead from the
>impact, not from the fire.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> It's kind of scary when you realize that judges are going to start
>denying new trials even when new evidence that contradicts the facts that led
>to the previous ruling appear.
There's this minor thing called "interest of finality/repose". What
it means is that parties aren't dragged into court over and over again
because the losing side "discovers" some "new" evidence. I don't know
about you, Brett, but I suspect GM had the resources to find just
about as many expert and fact witnesses as it wanted before the trial
started. Letting them re-open the case now is practically an
invitation to every civil litigant on earth to keep an ace in the hole
in case the verdict goes against him.
BTW, in federal criminal cases, Rule 33 does permit a motion for a new
trial "based on . . . *newly discovered* evidence" if made within 2
years of the verdict. (Emphasis mine.) If you're trying to make a
backhanded point about criminal justice in a discussion that has
little to do with criminal trials -- as the estimable David Brock did
in his amusing WSJ piece last week -- save your breath.
> Or has the judge decided that the new witnesses are not to be
>believed?
>Shouldn't that be up to a jury?
Yup. Which is why they shoulda been brought around the first time
through.
> And what about members of the previous jury parading through the talk
>shows proclaiming their obvious bias against GM? Shouldn't that be enough for
>a judge to through out the old verdict and call for a new trial?
> Whatever happened to jurors having to be objective?
Unless there's some reason to believe that this supposed bias predated
the trial (as opposed to being a product of it), and that GM was
unfairly prevented from discovering it (by venireman concealment or
otherwise), why should GM be allowed to complain?
--
MORAL: Always Choose the Right Sort of Parents
Before You Start in to be Rough
- George Ade
Mark Eckenwiler eck@panix.com ...!cmcl2!panix!eck
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8717 | From: genetic+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate)
Subject: Re: Pinch Hitters (WAS Re: Denny Walling)
Article-I.D.: blue.7960
Organization: Department of Industrial Engineering
Lines: 20
rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert) said:
>
>(And I thought Mota didn't really start pinch-hitting for a
>living until after 1973)
Depends on what you mean by "for a living". 1974 was the year he led the
league in pinch-hit at bats with 50, but he'd been getting a lot of PH ABs
earlier than that, and was never a full-time player. 20-35 PH ABs early in
his career, 15-20 a year just before going to the Dodgers, and 30-50 in the
peak years.
We're talking about a guy with a 20-year career as an outfielder, a .300+
career batting average, and 1130 or so career hits.
--
David M. Tate | (i do not know what it is about you that closes
posing as: | and opens; only something in me understands
e e (can | the pocket of your glove is deeper than Pete Rose's)
dy) cummings | nobody, not even Tim Raines, has such soft hands
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8718 | Subject: ACCESS BUS (was I2C bus)
From: srgxnbs@grace.cri.nz
Organization: Industrial Research Ltd., New Zealand.
NNTP-Posting-Host: grv.grace.cri.nz
Lines: 37
From: MX%"Andy.Macrae@Corp.Sun.COM" 6-APR-1993 06:48:34.96
To: SRGXNBS
CC:
Subj: Re: I^2C bus and long haul serial (also Axlo
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From: Andy.Macrae@Corp.Sun.COM (Andrew MacRae)
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In article <1pii04INNk6t@zephyr.grace.cri.nz> you write:
> Whats required to get onto the ACCESS bus? The nice thing about the
> i2c is that most i/o requires one 8 ... 16 pin DIL chip, ie its cheap
> and easy. Anyone can design a bus, trouble is most buses require a
> host of interface chips and often on-board intelligence.
Bruce,
For the latest information on Access.Bus call the Access.Bus
Industry Group at (408) 991-3517. Also, Sun will be hosting the next
meeting of the group on April 19th, here in Mountain View. For some reason
I am not able to post to any newsgroups today, so please feel free to pass
this information on yourself as you see fit.
Andrew MacRae
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8719 | From: jacquier@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Eric Jacquier )
Subject: Opinions on Allergy (Hay Fever) shots?
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
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Hello,
I am interested in trying this "desensitization" (?) method
against hay fever.
What is the state of affairs about this. I went to a doctor and
paid $85 for a 10 minute interview + 3 scratches, leading to the
diagnostic that I am allergic to (June and Timothy) grass.
I believe this. From now on it looks like 2 shots per week for
6 months followed by 1 shot per month or so. Each shot costs
$20. Talking about soaring costs and the Health care system, I would
call that a racket. We are not talking about rare Amazonian grasses
here, but the garbage which grows behind the doctor's office.
Apart from this issue, I was somewhat disappointed to find out
that you have to keep getting the shots forever. Is that right?
Thanks for information.
Ej
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8720 | From: arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler)
Subject: Russian Phobos Mission
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Lines: 6
Did the Russian spacecraft(s) on the ill-fated Phobos mission a few
years ago send back any images of the Martian moon? If so, does anyone know if
they're housed at an ftp site?
Thanks.
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8721 | From: penev@rockefeller.edu (Penio Penev)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a Local BUS (Cached) IDE Controller
Reply-To: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu
Organization: Rockefeller University
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On 15 Apr 1993 20:14:20 GMT Divya Sundaram (sundaram@egr.msu.edu) wrote:
| I would like to hear the net.wisdom and net.opinions on IDE Controllers.
| I would liek to get a IDE controller card for my VLB DX2 66 Motherboard.
| What are good options for this (preferably under $200). It MUST also work
| under OS/2 and be compatible with Stacker (and other Disk Compression S/W).
I have a Maxtor 212MB on an ISA IDE controller, although my machine is
DX2/66 VLB. I has the save transfer rate of 0.647 MB/s regardless of
the variations of the ISA bus speed. I tested it with speed between
5.5MHz and 8.33MHz. Not _any_ difference. The problem is not the
interface between the controller and the memory.
My advice: Buy 4Megs of RAM, save $70 and enjoy performance.
--
Penio Penev x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu
Disclaimer: All oppinions are mine.
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8722 | From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine)
Subject: Re: Genocide is Caused by Theism : Evidence?
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.
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In article <1qid04$fct@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>
>I don't see anything special about theism in general that makes it a
>particular hazard (more so than say, stupidity, anarchy, or patriotism).
>Of course, it depends on the religion, but I see nothing about believing
>in gods that in and of itself entails or even promotes xenophobia, genocide,
>etc.
If the emphasis is on the "in general", then of course you're
correct, since you haven't really said anything. If we restrict
our observations to practiced religions, there are lots of
examples of god mandated genocide. Just ask the Canaanites. The
point is that if you believe in a god, and if you believe he has
ordered you to eliminate an entire race, you will likely make the
attempt. After all, if it was OK in the past, it could surely be
OK in the present.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM
They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,
and sank Manhattan out at sea.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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8723 | From: isaac@etrog.se.citri.edu.au (Isaac Balbin)
Subject: Re: More on ADL spying case
Organization: Collaborative Information Technology Research Institute
Lines: 12
arens@ISI.EDU (Yigal Arens) writes:
>Los Angeles Times, Tuesday, April 13, 1993. P. A1.
>NEW DETAILS OF EXTENSIVE ADL SPY OPERATION EMERGE
> * INQUIRY: Transcripts reveal nearly 40 years of espionage
> by a man who infiltrated political groups
>By Richard C. Paddock, Times staff writer.
Did they have a file on Yigal too?
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8724 | From: uad1126@tdc.dircon.co.uk (Robert Palmer)
Subject: Christian Parenting
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Hi I am a Sociology student and I am currently researching into
young offenders. I am looking at the way various groups of
children are raised at home. At the moment I am formlulating
information on discipline within the Christian home.
Please, if you are a parent in this catagory can you email me
your response to the following questionaire. All responses
will be treated confidentially and will only be used to prepare
stats.
1. Ages & sexes of children
2. Do you spank your kids?
3. If so how often?
4. Do you use an implement to spank with?
5. If you do not spank, what method of discipline do you use?
6. Your age?
7. Your location
8. While under the age of 16 did you ever commit a criminal
offence?
9. How ere you disciplined as a kid
Thank you in advance for any reply you can make. Please e-mail
your replies rather than post them on the newsgroup
[I hope it is obvious that responses to this question are likely to
have serious problems when used for research purposes. Our readers
are not likely to be a random sample of Christians, and this form does
not contain enough information to act as a stratified sample. Perhaps
someone who is familiar with research methods might want to correspond
with him. --clh]
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8725 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) writes:
>>But, you don't know that capital punishment is wrong, so it isn't the same
>>as shooting. A better analogy would be that you continue to drive your car,
>>realizing that sooner or later, someone is going to be killed in an automobile
>>accident. You *know* people get killed as a result of driving, yet you
>>continue to do it anyway.
>Uh uh. You do not know that you will be the one to do the
>killing. I'm not sure I'd drive a car if I had sufficient evidence to
>conclude that I would necessarily kill someone during my lifetime.
Yes, and everyone thinks as you do. No one thinks that he is going to cause
or be involved in a fatal accident, but the likelihood is surprisingly high.
Just because you are the man on the firing squad whose gun is shooting
blanks does not mean that you are less guilty.
>I don't know about Jon, but I say *ALL* taking of human life is
>murder. And I say murder is wrong in all but one situation: when
>it is the only action that will prevent another murder, either of
>myself or another.
You mean that killing is wrong in all but one situtation? And, you should
note that that situation will never occur. There are always other options
thank killing. Why don't you just say that all killing is wrong. This
is basically what you are saying.
>I'm getting a bit tired of your probabilistic arguments.
Are you attempting to be condescending?
>That the system usually works pretty well is small consolation to
>the poor innocent bastard getting the lethal injection. Is your
>personal value of human life based solely on a statistical approach?
>You sound like an unswerving adherent to the needs of the many
>outweighing the needs of the few, so fuck the few.
But, most people have found the risk to be acceptable. You are probably
much more likely to die in a plane crash, or even using an electric
blender, than you are to be executed as an innocent. I personally think
that the risk is acceptable, but in an ideal moral system, no such risk
is acceptable. "Acceptable" is the fudge factor necessary in such an
approximation to the ideal.
keith
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8726 | From: flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare)
Subject: Re: 18 Israelis murdered in March
Organization: Dept. Of Control, Teknikum, Uppsala
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<FLAX.93Apr4151411@frej.teknikum.uu.se>
<1993Apr5.125419.8157@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
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In-reply-to: hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU's message of Mon, 5 Apr 93 12:54:19 GMT
In article <1993Apr5.125419.8157@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
[After a small refresh Hasan got on the track again.]
In article <FLAX.93Apr4151411@frej.teknikum.uu.se>, flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr3.182738.17587@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
|> In article <FLAX.93Apr3142133@frej.teknikum.uu.se>, flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare) writes:
|> |> I get the impression Hasan realized he goofed and is now
|> |> trying to drop the thread. Let him. It might save some
|> |> miniscule portion of his sorry face.
|> Not really. since i am a logical person who likes furthering himself
|> from any "name calling", i started trashing any article that contains
|> such abuses without responding to, and sometimes not even reading articles
|> written by those who acquired such bad habits from bad company!
|>
|> Ah, but in my followup on the subject (which you, by the way, never bothered
|> responding to..) there was no name-calling. Hence the assumption.
|> Do you feel more up to it now, so that we might have an answer?
|> Or, to refresh your memory, does the human right issue in the area
|> apply to Palestinians only? Also, do you claim there is such a thing as
|> forfeiting a human right? If that's possible, then explain to the rest of
|> us how there can exist any such thing?
|>
|> Use your logic, and convince us! This is your golden chance!
|> Jonas Flygare,
well , ok. let's see what Master of Wisdom, Mr. Jonas Flygare,
wrote that can be wisdomely responded to :
Are you calling names, or giving me a title? If the first, read your
paragraph above, if not I accept the title, in order to let you get into the
um, well, debate again.
Master of Wisdom writes in <1993Mar31.101957@frej.teknikum.uu.se>:
|> [hasan]
|> |> [flax]
|> |> |> [hasan]
|> |> |> In case you didNOT know, Palestineans were there for 18 months.
|> |> |> and they are coming back
|> |> |> when you agree to give Palestineans their HUMAN-RIGHTS.
|> |> |> Afterall, human rights areNOT negotiable.
|> |> |> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the right to one's life _also_
|> |> |> a 'human right'?? Or does it only apply to palestinians?
|> |> No. it is EVERYBODY's right. However, when a killer kills, then he is giving
|> |> up -willingly or unwillingly - his life's right to the society.
|> |> the society represented by the goverment would exercise its duty by
|> |> depriving the killer off his life's right.
|> So then it's all right for Israel to kill the people who kill Israelis?
|> The old 'eye for an eye' thinking? Funny, I thought modern legal systems
|> were made to counter exactly that.
So what do you expect me to tell you to tell you, Master of Wsidom,
^^^
------------------------------------------------------------------
If you insist on giving me names/titles I did not ask for you could at
least spell them correctly. /sigh.
when you are intentionally neglecting the MOST important fact that
the whole israeli presence in the occupied territories is ILLEGITIMATE,
and hence ALL their actions, their courts, their laws are illegitimate on
the ground of occupied territories.
No, I am _not_ neglecting that, I'm merely asking you whether the existance
of Israeli citicens in the WB or in Gaza invalidates those individuals right
to live, a (as you so eloquently put it) human right. We can get back to the
question of which law should be used in the territories later. Also, you have
not adressed my question if the israelis also have human rights.
What do you expect me to tell you, Master of Wisdom, when I did explain my
point in the post, that you "responded to". The point is that since Israel
is occupying then it is automatically depriving itself from some of its rights
to the Occupied Palestineans, which is exactly similar the automatic
deprivation of a killer from his right of life to the society.
If a state can deprive all it's citizens of human rights by its actions, then
tell me why _any_ human living today should have any rights at all?
|> |> In conjugtion with the above, when a group of people occupies others
|> |> territories and rule them by force, then this group would be -willingly or
|> |> unwillingly- deprived from some of its rights.
|> Such as the right to live? That's nice. The swedish government is a group
|> of people that rule me by force. Does that give me the right to kill
|> them?
Do you consider yourself that you have posed a worthy question here ?
Worthy or not, I was just applying your logic to a related problem.
Am I to assume you admit it wouldn't hold?
|> |> What kind of rights and how much would be deprived is another issue?
|> |> The answer is to be found in a certain system such as International law,
|> |> US law, Israeli law ,...
|> And now it's very convenient to start using the legal system to prove a
|> point.. Excuse me while I throw up.
ok, Master of Wisdom is throwing up.
You people stay away from the screen while he is doing it !
Oh did you too watch that comedy where they pipe water through the telephone?
I'll let you in on a secret... It's not for real.. Take my word for it.
|> |> It seems that the US law -represented by US State dept in this case-
|> |> is looking to the other way around when violence occurs in occupied territories.
|> |> Anyway, as for Hamas, then obviously they turned to the islamic system.
|> And which system do you propose we use to solve the ME problem?
The question is NOT which system would solve the ME problem. Why ? because
any system can solve it.
The laws of minister Sharon says kick Palestineans out of here (all palestine).
I asked for which system should be used, that will preserve human rights for
all people involved. I assumed that was obvious, but I won't repeat that
mistake. Now that I have straightened that out, I'm eagerly awaiting your
reply.
Joseph Weitz (administrator responsible for Jewish colonization)
said it best when writing in his diary in 1940:
"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both
peoples together in this country.... We shall not achieve our goal
^^^ ^^^
of being an independent people with the Arabs in this small country.
The only solution is a Palestine, at least Western Palestine (west of
the Jordan river) without Arabs.... And there is no other way than
to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighbouring countries, to
transfer all of them; not one village, not one tribe, should be
left.... Only after this transfer will the country be able to
absorb the millions of our own brethren. There is no other way out."
DAVAR, 29 September, 1967
("Courtesy" of Marc Afifi)
Just a question: If we are to disregard the rather obvious references to
getting Israel out of ME one way or the other in both PLO covenant and HAMAS
charter (that's the english translations, if you have other information I'd
be interested to have you translate it) why should we give any credence to
a _private_ paper even older? I'm not going to get into the question if he
wrote the above, but it's fairly obvious all parties in the conflict have
their share of fanatics. Guess what..? Those are not the people that will
make any lasting peace in the region. Ever. It's those who are willing to
make a tabula rasa and start over, and willing to give in order to get
something back.
"We" and "our" either refers to Zionists or Jews (i donot know which).
Well, i can give you an answer, you Master of Wisdom, I will NOT suggest the
imperialist israeli system for solving the ME problem !
I think that is fair enough .
No, that is _not_ an answer, since I asked for a system that could solve
the problem. You said any could be used, then you provided a contradiction.
Guess where that takes your logic? To never-never land.
"The greatest problem of Zionism is Arab children".
-Rabbi Shoham.
Oh, and by the way, let me add that these cute quotes you put at the end are
a real bummer, when I try giving your posts any credit.
--
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Jonas Flygare, + Wherever you go, there you are
V{ktargatan 32 F:621 +
754 22 Uppsala, Sweden +
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8727 | From: dashley@wyvern.wyvern.com (Doug Ashley)
Subject: Re: LCIII problems
Organization: wyvern.com
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Ravi Konchigeri <mongoose@leland.stanford.edu> writes:
>About hard drive companies: the original 160 meg drive that was bad (bad
>sector or something) was an IBM. The new one is a Quantum. Is the LCIII
>supposed to be shipped with IBMs? Is there a quality difference?
Officially, no. From experience (yours now included!), yes. Quantums seem to
be the most problem-free brand on the Mac.
>Second, about hard drive position. I've put the LCIII on its side and
>the new 160 HD has had no problems at all. I've even switched back and
>forth between horizontal and vertical and there are no problems. As far
>as I'm concerned I don't believe HD position is important for drives up
>to 160 meg, in any computer. Don't know about CD-ROM, though.
It should not matter for the hard drive or the Mac. Well, as long as it
doesn't fall over. ;)
Doug
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8728 | From: ad354@Freenet.carleton.ca (James Owens)
Subject: Re: 666, THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST, VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED!
Reply-To: ad354@Freenet.carleton.ca (James Owens)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
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UN Resolution 666 guarantees humanitarian aid will get into Irag during
the Gulf War. Is this war over? Is aid getting in, or are they still
trying to smoke out Saddam? Is this the Middle East? Are we talking
religious war here? Am I ranting?
--
James Owens ad354@Freenet.carleton.ca
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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8729 | From: David Ruggiero <osiris@halcyon.com>
Subject: <very> Bare 386/25 Micronics system - $495
Originator: osiris@halcyon.com
Reply-To: osiris@halcyon.halcyon.com (David Ruggiero)
Organization: [none - why fight entropy?]
Distribution: na
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"Bare" means what it says. You get a case, a power supply, and a motherboard
(with RAM and a coprocessor). *Everything* else is yours to add as you like.
The case/power supply:
- Standard desktop case. 230watt power supply with the usual connectors.
- Room for five floppy/hard drives (three visible, two internal).
The motherboard:
- US-made Micronics 8-slot motherboard with Intel 386dx/25mhz CPU
- 64kb SRAM cache
- 4mb 80us RAM using 4x1mb simms (worth $150 alone)
- Cyrix 83D87 math coprocessor (worth $90 alone)
- Norton SI 6.0 rating of 26.1
- Latest version Phoenix BIOS
Please do not post/email saying "but I can get a Taiwanese SuperClone
386/90 for only $9.95 including a free toaster!". I am *certain* you can
find a cheaper Brand X board without even breaking a sweat. *New* Micronics
CPUs command a several-hundred dollar premium because they are US-made,
use high-quality components, and are known to be both very reliable and
compatible. They have been OEMed in systems sold by both Gateway and
Zeos at various points in the past. (Check out the ads in the back pages
of Byte or PC Magazine if you want to see this price differential for
yourself.)
Price: $495 complete, $100 less if you don't want/need the case and
power supply. The board is fully guaranteed. Email for further details
or for any questions.
Thanks!
--
David Ruggiero (jdavid@halcyon.com) Seattle, WA: Home of the Moss People
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8730 | From: rpao@mts.mivj.ca.us (Roger C. Pao)
Subject: Re: 16Mb ISA limit
Keywords: monitor, VGA, question
Organization: MicroTech Software
Lines: 29
marka@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Mark Ashley) writes:
>In the latest PC Magazine (Pentium isssue), there
>is an editorial on the
>advantages of a PC using EISE/VESA-LB rather
>than just plain ISA/VESA-LB. Supposedly users
>will eventually want more than 16Mb of RAM.
>However since the ISA bus has only 24 bits,
>then anything on the bus can access only 16Mb
>even if I have 32Mb on the motherboard.
>So far I agree with the arguments.
>Then the writer claims that glitches can
>occur in systems with over 16Mb because
>of that limit. That part I don't understand
>because the RAM is right on the motherboard.
>So the cpu should have no problems talking
>with the RAM. Can anybody explain this ?
The problem is with ISA bus-masters which
can only address the first 16MBs of system
memory. Bus-masters do not use the CPU
nor the system DMA to do the actual data
transfer but transfer their data directly
to the system RAM.
rp93
--
Roger C. Pao {gordius,bagdad,pride386}!mts!rpao, rpao@mts.mivj.ca.us
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8731 | From: bolson@carson.u.washington.edu (Edward Bolson)
Subject: Re: Sphere from 4 points?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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I plan to post a summary of responses to this as soon as I have working
code, which I will also include. The intersection of 3 planes method
looks best, but my implementation based on a short article in
Graphics Gems I doesn't work. I may be misinterpreting, of course.
I had avoided the simultaneous solution of the plane equations in favor
of dot and cross products, but the former may actually be better. In either
case a matrix determinant needs to be computed (implicitly in the solution
of linear equations).
To get the planes, I was taking the midpoint of the line from, say,
P1 to P2, and setting the normal as the "normalized" vector from P1 to P2.
These just plugged into the formula in Graphics Gems. HOwever, the resulting
center point is only occasionally equidistant from all 4 of my test points
(for different tests). My matrix/vector math is very rusty, but it looks like
I need to verify the formula, or use the simultaneous equation solution, which
will require bringing in another routine I don't have (but should be easy to
find).
Another method is to first find the center of the circle defined by 2 sets
of 3 points, and intersecting the normals from there. This would also define
the circle center. However, small numerical imprecisions would make the
lines not intersect. Supposedly 3 planes HAVE to intersect in a unique
point if they are not parallel.
Ed
Thanks to all who answered so far.
--
Ed Bolson
University of Washington Cardiovascular Research (206)543-4535
bolson@u.washington.edu (preferred)
bolson@max.bitnet bolson@milton.u.washington.edu (if you must)
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8732 | From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: A loathesome subject
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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In article <1993Apr13.174636.15142@ads.com>, henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
> carlos@beowulf.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion) wrote:
# -# Just curious (don't have to answer if you feel uncomfortable):
# -# how many times have YOU had sex with boys?
#
# why do you care? if a total stranger asked you how often you had sex,
# would you answer?
#
# # henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc. / <henry@ads.com#
This is so typical of homosexuals -- constantly making excuses for
child molesters.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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8733 | From: pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is oxymoronic
Keywords: ... and blessed are aluminium siding salesman ...
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
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In article <930416.140529.9M1.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk>
mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
>livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>>Not, of course, The Greatest Salesman in the World. That was Jesus, wasn't it?
>No, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.
Definitely, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, numero uno, top dog, not one can touch, not
one can knock Bob out of the box. Bob kills me mon! Everyday!
But close El Segundo (el subliminal) is the infamous Paul (birthname Saul) the
Evangeline who became famous as a result of his numerous trampoline act
tours of the eastern Mediterranean.
Jesus on the other hand was duped, a pawn of the Con, fell pray to the
Holywood Paradox (ain't nothing but a sign in the hills!). Like many
Afro-Asians, Jesus found the earth all too pink! And to think that after
his death, the Con changed him into a tall blond Holywood sun god! And I
do mean that in the kindest way possums! Now Jesus does gigs with Hendrix,
Joplin, Morrison, Lennon, Marley, Tosh, etc. Mostly ska beat jah-know!
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8734 | From: ritley@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: MYSTERY ILLNESS WITH SPOTS
Reply-To: ritley@uiucmrl.bitnet ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
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I attended high school in the San Jose, California area in the early 1980's,
and I remember a (smallish) outbreak of a strange illness, in which
people developed measles-like spots on their bodies. This condition
seemed to last only a few days, and I don't recall anyone reporting any other
symptoms. I seem to recall reading somewhere that this was believed to have
been viral in nature, but I don't know for sure.
However, I have been curious since then about this.
Anyone have any ideas about what this might have been?
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8735 | From: eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: Ultimate AWD vehicles
Organization: clearer than blir
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Distribution: usa
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In article <C5L86z.E73@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rdb1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ronald.j.deblock..jr) writes:
>Yes, I saw a 200 Turbo Quattro wagon on I-287 in NJ on Monday. I thought
>Audi stopped selling wagons in the US after the 5000. This is exactly the
>type of vehicle I would like to own. I bet its price is 4-5 times my
>car budget.
think again!! thanks to 60 minutes (tick tick tick), used 200
quattros are bargains.. '89s go for about $15K, '90s go for perhaps 1
or 2K more, the 20 valve 91's are quite a bit more because of an
enormous hp and torque gain.. i think they go for about $23 to $25K if
you can find one. i have seen quite a lot of '89-'90 200 quattros (not
that many wagons though) at the dealer lot.. they use very high
quality paint and the entire car is zinc galvanized, so it will never
rust.
in short, typically a 4 yr old 200 looks no more older than a 1 year
old and the 5 bangers are bullet proof engines. 200K out of one is
not rare, even for a turbo, which is watercooled for the 200s. then
there are aftermarket chips that you can buy to bump up turbo boost...
if you are into luxo-gizmos.. the cars are loaded with just about
everything too..
the price of parts is a different story though...
eliot
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8736 | Subject: Re: Shaft-drives and Wheelies
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford)
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State University
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In article <1r16ja$dpa@news.ysu.edu>, ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker)
wrote:
>
>
> In a previous article, xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu () says:
>
> Mike Terry asks:
>
> >Is it possible to do a "wheelie" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive?
> >
> No Mike. It is imposible due to the shaft effect. The centripital effects
> of the rotating shaft counteract any tendency for the front wheel to lift
> off the ground.
This is true as evinced by the popularity of shaft-drive drag bikes.
====================================================
John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona
All standard disclaimers apply.
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8737 | From: mbuntan@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Fax modem for the Mac
Nntp-Posting-Host: staff.tc.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Lines: 26
Hi all:
Thanks to you all who have responded
to my request for info on various kinds of fax modem.
I'd like to ask a few more questions.
1. What are the advantages of buying a global village
Teleport Gold over other cheaper brands like Supra, Zoom etc?
2. I heard that both Supra and Zoom use the same software.
Why are there so many complaints about the incompatibility problems
of Supra? What kind of incompatibility is it?
3. If I decided to buy the Teleport Gold, is there any
possibility to add a voice option in the near future?
4. Has anyone heard of a possible voice option that Supra will offer
this coming summer?
5. A person did mention a new AT&T modem. Is it
getting good reviews from various Mac Magazines?
6. If I want the best, fastest, most economically sound and
possible voice option, what fax modem should I buy?
Sorry for posting so many questions, but I think they're necessary.
I promise to repost any answers if they're not already posted by a responder.
Thanks so much in advance.
Regards,
Thian.
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8738 | From: jejones@microware.com (James Jones)
Subject: Re: Rumours about 3DO ???
Nntp-Posting-Host: snake
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
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In article <1993Apr15.164940.11632@mercury.unt.edu> Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu> writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.144843.19549@rchland.ibm.com> Ricardo Hernandez
>Muchado, ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com writes:
>> And CD-I's CPU doesn't help much either. I understand it is
>>a 68070 (supposedly a variation of a 68000/68010) running at something
>>like 7Mhz. With this speed, you *truly* need sprites.
>
>Wow! A 68070! I'd be very interested to get my hands on one of these,
>especially considering the fact that Motorola has not yet released the
>68060, which is supposedly the next in the 680x0 lineup. 8-D
Don't get too excited; Signetics, not Motorola, gave the 68070 its number.
The 68070, if I understand rightly, uses the 68000 instruction set, and has
an on-chip serial port and DMA. (It will run at up to 15 MHz--I'm typing
at a computer using a 68070 running at that rate, so I know that it can
do so--so I seriously doubt the clock rate that ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
claims.)
James Jones
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8739 | From: ct22@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Constantino Tobio)
Subject: Re: Quick Question
Article-I.D.: news.1993Apr6.050302.13153
Organization: Columbia University
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Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Quick question
Summary:
Expires:
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Distribution:
Organization: Columbia University
Keywords: Removing panels.
In article <1993Apr5.211457.12789@ole.cdac.com> ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate) writes:
> How do you take off the driver side door panel from the inside
>on an '87 Honda Prelude? The speaker went scratchy, and I want
>to access its pins.
>
> I see only one press button and the rest is snug fit.
>
>
> -S
> ssave@ole.cdac.com
Quick question. Why are you posting this to a VW newsgroup?
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Quick Question
Summary:
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Subject: Re: Quick question
Summary:
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Distribution:
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Keywords: Removing panels.
In article <1993Apr5.211457.12789@ole.cdac.com> ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate) writes:
> How do you take off the driver side door panel from the inside
>on an '87 Honda Prelude? The speaker went scratchy, and I want
>to access its pins.
>
> I see only one press button and the rest is snug fit.
>
>
> -S
> ssave@ole.cdac.com
Quick question. Why are you posting this to a VW newsgroup?
Constantino Tobio, Jr. ** ct22@columbia.edu **
"Tremble you weaklings, cower in fear, I am your ruler, land, sea and air.
Immense in my girth, erect I stand tall, I'm a nuclear murderer.
I am POLARIS!" - Megadeth, "Rust in Peace"
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8740 | From: martimer@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (jonathan Sawitsky)
Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Lines: 25
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu
In article <1993Apr5.203212.28284@erenj.com> srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson) writes:
>In article <1993Apr3.152922.12050@iscsvax.uni.edu>, harter5255@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>|> Fellow netters,
>|>
>|> Is anybody awake out there? When someone posted a message telling people to
>|> stop posting computer ads to the misc.forsale group, he got about thirty
>|> response here, not to mention the rash of E-Mail I'm sure he received. Yet,
>|> another person posts a message with the subject line "blow me" and an even
>|> worse text, and only 3 or 4 people have the guts to say anything. The majority
>
>Not to mention the thread about selling someone's wife. I am a guy, therefore
>not overly bummed by it, but a little common sense would dictate that this
>is offensive to many women, and not really necessary.
>
Good point, but I was just thinking.. I wanted to sell my HP28sx
calculator here in this newsgroup... It is called a calculator, but really
it is a computer, albeit a small one, but it does function as one... How
come car adds are acceptable? They cant run without computers nowadays....
Where does one draw the line? Accept it, live with it, and if you care to,
avoid it....
jonathan
--
I have lots of common sense...
I just choose to ignore it.... Calvin
..jonathan Sawitsky 'some random wierdo' martimer@wpi.wpi.edu...
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8741 | From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: From Israeli press. Madness.
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Lines: 165
In article <1483500342@igc.apc.org>, Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
> From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
> Subject: From Israeli press. Madness.
>
> /* Written 4:34 pm Apr 16, 1993 by cpr@igc.apc.org in igc:mideast.forum */
> /* ---------- "From Israeli press. Madness." ---------- */
> FROM THE ISRAELI PRESS.
>
> Paper: Zman Tel Aviv (Tel Aviv's time). Friday local Tel Aviv's
> paper, affiliated with Maariv.
>
> Date: 19 February 1993
>
> Journalist: Guy Ehrlich
>
> Subject: Interview with soldiers who served in the Duvdevan
> (Cherry) units, which disguise themselves as Arabs and operate
> within the occupied territories.
>
> Excerpts from the article:
>
> "A lot has been written about the units who disguise themselves as
> Arabs, things good and bad, some of the falsehoods. But the most
> important problem of those units has been hardly dealt with. It is
> that everyone who serves in the Cherry, after a time goes in one
> way or another insane".
Gee, I'd better tell this to the Mental Health Branch of the Israeli Army
Medical Corps ! Where would we be without you, Davidson ?
>
> A man who said this, who will here be called Danny (his full name
> is known to the editors) served in the Cherry. After his discharge
> from the army he works as delivery boy. His pal, who will here be
> called Dudu was also serving in the Cherry, and is now about to
> depart for a round-the-world tour. They both look no different
> from average Israeli youngsters freshly discharged from conscript
> service. But in their souls, one can notice something completely
> different....It was not easy for them to come out with disclosures
> about what happened to them. And they think that to most of their
> fellows from the Cherry it woundn't be easy either. Yet after they
> began to talk, it was nearly impossible to make them stop talking.
> The following article will contain all the horror stories
> recounted with an appalling openness.
>
> (...) A short time ago I was in command of a veteran team, in
> which some of the fellows applied for release from the Cherry. We
> called such soldiers H.I. 'Hit by the Intifada'. Under my command
> was a soldier who talked to himself non-stop, which is a common
> phenomenon in the Cherry. I sent him to a psychiatrist. But why I
> should talk about others when I myself feel quite insane ? On
> Fridays, when I come home, my parents know I cannot be talked to
> until I go to the beach, surf a little, calm down and return. The
> keys of my father's car must be ready for in advance, so that I
> can go there. I they dare talk to me before, or whenever I don't
> want them to talk to me, I just grab a chair and smash it
> instantly. I know it is my nerve: Smashing chairs all the time
> and then running away from home, to the car and to the beach. Only
> there I become normal.(...)
>
> (...) Another friday I was eating a lunch prepared by my mother.
> It was an omelette of sorts. She took the risk of sitting next to
> me and talking to me. I then told my mother about an event which
> was still fresh in my mind. I told her how I shot an Arab, and how
> exactly his wound looked like when I went to inspect it. She began
> to laugh hysterically. I wanted her to cry, and she dared laugh
> straight in my face instead ! So I told her how my pal had made a
> mincemeat of the two Arabs who were preparing the Molotov
> cocktails. He shot them down, hitting them beautifully, exactly as
> they deserved. One bullet had set a Molotov cocktail on fire, with
> the effect that the Arab was burning all over, just beautifully. I
> was delighted to see it. My pal fired three bullets, two at the
> Arab with the Molotov cocktail, and the third at his chum. It hit
> him straight in his ass. We both felt that we'd pulled off
> something.
>
> Next I told my mother how another pal of mine split open the guts
> in the belly of another Arab and how all of us ran toward that
> spot to take a look. I reached the spot first. And then that Arab,
> blood gushing forth from his body, spits at me. I yelled: 'Shut
> up' and he dared talk back to me in Hebrew! So I just laughed
> straight in his face. I am usually laughing when I stare at
> something convulsing right before my eyes. Then I told him: 'All
> right, wait a moment'. I left him in order to take a look at
> another wounded Arab. I asked a soldier if that Arab could be
> saved, if the bleeding from his artery could be stopped with the
> help of a stone of something else like that. I keep telling all
> this to my mother, with details, and she keeps laughing straight
> into my face. This infuriated me. I got very angry, because I felt
> I was becoming mad. So I stopped eating, seized the plate with he
> omelette and some trimmings still on, and at once threw it over
> her head. Only then she stopped laughing. At first she didn't know
> what to say.
>
> (...) But I must tell you of a still other madness which falls
> upon us frequently. I went with a friend to practice shooting on a
> field. A gull appeared right in the middle of the field. My friend
> shot it at once. Then we noticed four deer standing high up on the
Sigh.
Four (4) deer in Tel Aviv ?? Well, this is probably as accurate as the rest of
this fantasy.
> hill above us. My friend at once aimed at one of them and shot it.
> We enjoyed the sight of it falling down the rock. We shot down two
> deer more and went to take a look. When we climbed the rocks we
> saw a young deer, badly wounded by our bullet, but still trying to
> such some milk from its already dead mother. We carefully
> inspected two paths, covered by blood and chunks of torn flesh of
> the two deer we had hit. We were just delighted by that sight. We
> had hit'em so good ! Then we decided to kill the young deer too,
> so as spare it further suffering. I approached, took out my
> revolver and shot him in the head several times from a very short
> distance. When you shoot straight at the head you actually see the
> bullets sinking in. But my fifth bullet made its brains fall
> outside onto the ground, with the effect of splattering lots of
> blood straight on us. This made us feel cured of the spurt of our
> madness. Standing there soaked with blood, we felt we were like
> beasts of prey. We couldn't explain what had happened to us. We
> were almost in tears while walking down from that hill, and we
> felt the whole day very badly.
>
> (...) We always go back to places we carried out assignments in.
> This is why we can see them. When you see a guy you disabled, may
> be for the rest of his life, you feel you got power. You feel
> Godlike of sorts."
>
> (...) Both Danny and Dudu contemplate at least at this moment
> studying the acting. Dudu is not willing to work in any
> security-linked occupation. Danny feels the exact opposite. 'Why
> shouldn't I take advantage of the skills I have mastered so well ?
> Why shouldn't I earn $3.000 for each chopped head I would deliver
> while being a mercenary in South Africa ? This kind of job suits
> me perfectly. I have no human emotions any more. If I get a
> reasonable salary I will have no problem to board a plane to
> Bosnia in order to fight there."
>
> Transl. by Israel Shahak.
>
Yisrael Shahak the crackpot chemist ? Figures. I often see him in the
Rechavia (Jerusalem) post office. A really sad figure. Actually, I feel sorry
for him. He was in a concentration camp during the Holocaust and it must have
affected him deeply.
Josh
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
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8742 | From: "Daniel U. Holbrook" <dh3q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Did US drive on the left?
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Rob Reilly:
>whips and their tempers. Initially, all cars were built with the driver's
>controls on the right because that's the way people drove buggies, so the
This is just not so - many of the earliest cars had their steering
controls in the center of the vehicle, and there is no discernible
pattern of left- or right-hand steering controls until a few years into
the 20th century, when, in America at least, left-hand wheels became the
pattern. The mule team (or horses, I imagine) explanation, however,
seems to have some merit.
Dan
dh3q@andrew.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon University
Applied History
"This coffee plunges into the stomach...the mind is aroused, and
ideas pour forth like the battalions of the Grand Army on the field
of battle.... Memories charge at full gallop...the light cavalry
of comparisons deploys itself magnificently; the artillery of logic
hurry in with their train of ammunition; flashes of wit pop up like
sharp-shooters."
Honore de Balzac, 30 cups/day.
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8743 | From: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton)
Subject: Need to find out numb
Distribution: world
Organization: Ozone Online Operations, Inc. - New Orleans, LA
Reply-To: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton)
Lines: 24
AL>> Question: Is there a certain device out there that I can
AL>> use to find out the number to the line?
AL>> Thanks for any response.
AL>> Al
AL>There is a number you can call which will return a synthesized
AL>voice telling you the number of the line. Unfortunately, for the
AL>life of me I can't remember what it is. The telephone technicians
AL>use it all the time. We used to play around with this in our
AL>dorm rooms since there were multiple phone lines running between
AL>rooms.
It probably wouldn't help for you to post the number, since it appears
to be different in each area. For what it's worth, in the New Orleans
area the number is 998-877-6655 (easy to remember, what?)
* SLMR 2.1 * Ask me anything: if I don't know, I'll make up something.
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8744 | From: aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Alan Walford)
Subject: Summary: ATI Graphics Ultra Questions etc
Reply-To: aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: Eos Systems Inc, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Lines: 147
To those interested in the new ATI Ultra Cards:
I had posted some questions regarding the new ATI Ultra Pro cards and
had asked confirmation of some opinions.
This message is a summary of the responses. Thanks to all of you that
replied.
> 1) The card does not work in a system with 32M RAM.
a) The higher memory limits apply to ISA cards only, as far as I know. The VLB
and EISA version should have no problems.
b) I'm pretty sure from my experience that the ISA version doesn't
work in systems with over 16M Ram. There is supposed to be way
of switching the "memory aperture" feature off to prevent this,
but apparently it doesn't work. I posted some "help me" messages
on the net and people indicated that the EISA card didn't have this
problem.
c) FALSE
d) The VLB card, which I have, allows you to set memory aperture over 32M
by using their configuration software. No messing with jumpers necessary.
The 32M problem is probably valid only for ISA cards.
> 2) The card works in a 32M system with some switches
> set but it is much slower.
a) Again, the memory aperture need only be disabled if you have more than 124M RAM
(EISA and VLB) or 12 M (ISA). 32M should not be a problem for you.
b) Dunno.
c) Depends on the bus. YES if ISA, NO if EISA or Localbus
> 3) The card is _interlaced_ in its 24bit (true-colour) modes.
a) Nope. I can use 640x480 at 72hz, 24-bit and 800x600 at 70hz, 24-bit, all
non-interlaced.
b) Yes - According to PC Magazine, they've tested a local bus version
that does 1024x768 in 24-bit which may or may not be interlaced.
c) Not for the Pro. Sometimes for the Plus.
Some modes may run only interlaced on certain monitors. This has nothing to
do with 24 bits ... only with screen size. Note that for 24 bit color
and Windows you MUST have 2 megs, memory size calculations notwithstanding.
> 4) The latest build 59 drivers still do not work in many
> cases.
a) They aren't perfect, but are much improved. I don't recall the last time which
I had to leave mach 32 mode (ATI GUP mode) and switch to 8514 or VGA mode due
to software incompatibility.
b) True. Many people recommended going back to Build 55 or 54.
c) They appear to be excellent, but have a few bugs. For example, certain
graphs with dashed lines in Mathcad 3.1 do not print correctly, though they
do display OK on the screen. They are about par for fancy cards ..
other accelerated cards also have bugs.
d) Overall, I like the card, even if driver performance is somewhat less than
satisfactory. I am running the 1024*768 16 Color mode as that is all my
NT driver for October NT version seems to allow.
I will say this that Color performance is not quite as nice as a Diamond
Stealth VRAM, but I have not been able to try out a lot of the options on
the old driver.
> 5) This card is the fastest full colour card for the money.
a) It's quite fast, but whether or not its the fastest is open to debate.
b) Yes - I'll admit it was very very fast in 16-bit mode, which is what
I wanted to use it for. Too bad it crashed (in many different ways)
every 20 minutes or so...
c) Depends on many many things.
> 6) This card is the greatest thing since sliced bread. ;-)
a) I like it.
b) Well - PC Magazine seems to think it is.
c) Yes, this appears to be true :-)
d) As to greatest thing since sliced bread, I doubt it. Better cards are
coming out. Who knows, maybe ATI will come out with something faster yet.
Several reviews I read rated one Pycon Winjet card as a superior performer
at a cheaper price except for availability of drivers, which Pycon was
developing at that time. (PC Magazine, about two months or so back)
Overall, the card has a lot of potential, but you have to be able to use it.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
That is the end of the questions. These were the most discussed items in this
group so I thought they needed confirmation. For those of you not familiar
with the card I have included a summary here (from an ATI ad since I don't have
an Graphics Ultra yet.)
ATI Graphics Ultra Plus:
- Accelerated 1024x768 at 65K colours
- True colour(16.7M) at 800x600
- Multimedia Video Acceleration (for Indeo Video,RLE and Video 1 compressed)
Stretch full motion video windows to full size
- Fast VGA
- Includes 3 button mouse (ISA versions only)
- Anti-aliased fonts (ed. avail in 16 colour mode only,I think)
- Real-time pan and zoom across large virtual windows desktop
- Around a 1/2 length card size
- Priced from $400 U.S.
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro:
- Everything in Graphics Ultra Plus
- Faster performance with VRAMS
- Accelerated 1280x1024 at 256 colours 74Hz non-interlaced
- Available in ISA, EISA and Microchannel
- Priced from $600 U.S.
ATI Technologies
(416) 756-0718
I hope this summary can be of use to you.
Al
P.S. I am not associated with ATI Technologies in any way other
than having used their previous ATI Ultra card for a few
years (which I generally liked).
--
Alan Walford Eos Systems Inc., Vancouver,B.C., Canada Tel: 604-734-8655
aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca OR ...uunet!wimsey.bc.ca!eosvcr!aew
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8745 | From: genetic+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate)
Subject: Re: Young Catchers
Article-I.D.: blue.7975
Organization: Department of Industrial Engineering
Lines: 115
mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) said:
>
>We know that very, very few players at this age make much of an impact
>in the bigs, especially when they haven't even played AAA ball.
Yes. But this is *irrelevant*. You're talking about averages, when we
have lots of information about THIS PLAYER IN PARTICULAR to base our
decisions on.
I might as well say "We know that very, very few people are more than 7 feet
tall, so chances are that Manute Bol is really only 6 foot 4."
>No. Maybe I need to improve my writing skills. Lopez, who is very
>ordinary defensively, is not likely to hit so well at age 22
>(having not played at AAA level) that it is probably not a good idea
>to rush him into the Braves lineup in 1993.
Why isn't Lopez likely to hit that well? He hit that well last year (after
adjusting his stats for park and league and such); he hit better (on an
absolute scale) than Olson or Berryhill did. By a lot.
As for rushing... If there really is a qualitative difference between the
minors and the majors that requires a period of adjustment (and I don't
believe there is), then wouldn't you rather waste Lopez's 22-year old good
season than his 23-year old very good season or his 24-year-old excellent
season? The sooner you get him acclimated, the more of his prime you get to
use.
>>Lopez was hitting .588 over 17 AB when he was cut from spring
>>training. What does he have to do to earn a chance? Maybe not a full
>>time job, but at least a couple starts and a few AB for him to prove
>>his worth?
>
>Gee. I don't know. 17 abs sounds pretty good to me! About as good
>as your reasoning that the kid should play a back-up role rather
>than start every day at AAA. Talk about *me* as a GM...
The point was not that 17 AB is a significant sample, but rather that he
hadn't done anything in spring training to cause even a blockhead manager
to question whether his minor league numbers were for real, or to send him
down "until he gets warmed up".
>OK. Most players are not ready for the bigs at age 22
Most players are *never* ready for the bigs. What does this have to do
with Javy Lopez?
>Most players
>benefit, rather than being stagnant or hurt, by playing at AAA.
See above.
>Most catchers need to be solid defensively players to help their
>clubs in the bigs. Those are the arguments against Lopez for the
>Braves for this year.
But I could apply the same reasoning to Frank Thomas or Barry Bonds. Most
players aren't that good, so they probably won't be that good this year
either.
>Now. The Braves have two catchers who have demonstrated solid
>abilities to call games, to work with the pitchers, to throw out
>runners.
And demonstrated inabilities to hit their way out of a soap bubble.
>Not superstars mind you, but solid, experienced veterans.
Not superstars, not stars, not even good players. Maybe average, if we're
being charitable.
>The Braves have a very solid lineup with two big bats in the
>outfield, an excellent platoon at first, a solid MVP candidate
>at third and one of the better hitting shortstops.
Ummm. Justice is a very fine hitter. Pendleton might have another big year
in his bat, but he might also spend the season in Hamstring Hell. Gant is a
big question mark. The Bream/Hunter platoon is decent (not excellent) and
has rotten OBP or SLG (depending on who's in). Blauser is a very valuable
bat... for a shortstop.
>The center
>field platoon will probably hit .300. However good Lopez'
>bat *might* be (given the above) it won't be so much better than
>what they have to offset the differential in experience and
>defensive ability.
Wanna bet? The difference between Lopez's bat and Olson/Berryhill could be
20 or 30 runs over the course of the season. Given a choice between a player
with experience and a player who can play, I'll take the latter every time.
>The kid *will* improve playing at AAA,
Just like Keith Mitchell did?
>I am just so surprised I have to spell all of this out. My
>goodness. Do you believe the other poster who thinks Lopez
>is being held down because of his future earning potential?
That was me, and you so far your only counter-proposal is that they
really don't understand how good Lopez is, or overvalue experience,
or some combination of the two. I think my interpretation was more
flattering to the organization.
>Are they idiots who have built this ballclub?
[Well-argued but inflammatory reply deleted.]
--
David M. Tate | (i do not know what it is about you that closes
posing as: | and opens; only something in me understands
e e (can | the pocket of your glove is deeper than Pete Rose's)
dy) cummings | nobody, not even Tim Raines, has such soft hands
|
8746 | From: cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 23
In <sfnNTrC00WBO43LRUK@andrew.cmu.edu> "David R. Sacco" <dsav+@andrew.cmu.edu>
writes:
>After tons of mail, could we move this discussion to alt.religion?
Yes.
MAC
>=============================================================
>--There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. (Bob Dylan)
>--"If you were happy every day of your life you wouldn't be a human
>being, you'd be a game show host." (taken from the movie "Heathers.")
>--Lecture (LEK chur) - process by which the notes of the professor
>become the notes of the student without passing through the minds of
>either.
--
****************************************************************
Michael A. Cobb
"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois
class to pay for my programs." Champaign-Urbana
-Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
With new taxes and spending cuts we'll still have 310 billion dollar deficits.
|
8747 | From: jwjohn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jerry W. Johnson)
Subject: How to Transfer to Video Tape?
Organization: California State University, Chico
Lines: 11
NNTP-Posting-Host: corpse.ecst.csuchico.edu
Hi All,
I'm asking for info on behalf of a friend. Is there, what would
be, the best way to copy the output of a monitor on to video
tape? Any ideas? Please prescribe additional hardware and/or
software? (I'm just assuming an Intel/Windows environment).
Thanks in advance. --Jerry
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|| Jerry W. Johnson || Struggling CSCI Grad Student ||
|| jwjohn@ecst.csuchico.edu || (Is There Any Other Kind?) ||
||=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|| Mothers Against Dyslexia ||-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=||
|
8748 | From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Change of name ??
In-Reply-To: gs26@prism.gatech.EDU's message of 20 Apr 93 17:46:10 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Lines: 11
>What does this <censored> from NORWAY think he's doing telling us
>how to run the place? I wanna know... somebody please 'splain.
>
>Guess how NORWAY survived the Third Reich? Give you a hint,
>it wasn't by passive resistance the way the Danes did it....
I believe it had something to do with a politician whose name isn't
exactly the most complimentary word nowadays...one Vidkun Quisling.
We all know what a quisling is, right? I'm sure everyone can come up
with a few examples right about now :->.
-Steve
|
8749 | From: worsham@aer.com. (Robert D. Worsham)
Subject: Tektronix Equipment: Color Terminal, Printer, Rasterizer & Supplies
Summary: Tektronix Equipment/Supplies for sale
Keywords: color, printer, terminal, rasterizer, tektronix
Organization: Atmospheric & Environmental Research, Inc.
Lines: 27
For Sale:
Tektronix 4208 Color Terminal
Tektronix 4510A Rasterizer
Tektronix 4692 InkJet Printer
Tektronix 4692 Printer Extras (all Tektronix products):
Paper (> 3 boxes)
Transparencies (> 2 boxes)
Maintenance Cartridges (2 cart)
Magenta Ink Cartridge (1 cart)
We would like to sell as a single lot, and preference
will be given to offers for the entire list. All offers
accepted, best offer gets the equipment.
-- Bob
____________________________________________________________________
Robert D. Worsham (Bob) | email: worsham@aer.com
Atmospheric & Environmental Research Inc. | voice: (617) 547-6207
840 Memorial Drive | fax: (617) 661-6479
Cambridge MA 02139 USA
|
8750 | From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: DCC and MiniDisc: next DAT/DDS like st
Lines: 25
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
ST002560@brownvm.brown.edu wrote:
: As far as I can tell, the MD is an offshoot of technology that already exists.
: It is an MO drive. MO drives exist already for computers. They're expensive
: and a bit slow, but the disks are cheep (128 mb disks). Dan.
I read a recent article in Personal Computer World mainly about the new
digit audion formats (DCC and MD) but at the end talked about how nice
it would be to use these for data storage with a brief calculation of
how much data you could store. The author had been talking to someone
from Sony about these formats and mentioned this to get the reply "MD
is a purely audio format, we wouldn't use it for data", then when
pressed for info about MO the Sony man basically admitted that it was
no more than a slight adaptabtion on MD!
What I think the original poster was wanting was MO drives at MD audio
player prices. I'd assume that the problem here is that an MD system
can have higher tolerances than an MO system as the ear doesn't pick up
the occasional bit error as well as an archiving program!
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
david shepherd: des@inmos.co.uk tel: 0454-616616 x 625
inmos ltd, 1000 aztec west, almondsbury, bristol, bs12 4sq
"They didn't like the rates, they don't like the poll tax,
and they won't like the council tax." - Nicholas Ridley
|
8751 | From: jaeastman@anl.gov (Jeff Eastman)
Subject: Re: cubs & expos roster questions
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
Lines: 23
In article <15APR199312304021@pavo.concordia.ca>, m_klein@pavo.concordia.ca
(CorelMARK!) wrote:
>
> In article <0096B0F0.C5DE05A0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes...
> >In article <1993Apr15.003015.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>, cvadrnlh@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
> >>Today (4/14) Cubs activated P Mike Harkey from DL, whom did they move to make
> >>room for Harkey?
> >>Also, are Delino Deshields & John Wetteland of the Expos on the DL?
> >>Thanks for anyone who can give me more info!
> >>/===
> >>Ken
> >>Cal Poly, Pomona
> >>
> >
> >Wetteland is on the DL effective March 26 or something like that.
> >
> >rick
The Cubs sent Boskie to Iowa to make room for Harkey.
_______________
Jeff Eastman
jaeastman@anl.gov
_______________
|
8752 | From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat)
Subject: Re: news says BATF indictment/warrant unsealed...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Lines: 26
|QUESTION:
|What will Californians do with all those guns after the Reginald
|denny trial?
The Wall Street Journal had an article on how the police were whining
about all the new guns; excuse me, but police are EMPLOYEES of the
government. Rather like having your janitor complain about job
conditions.
I say Californians should form armed block clubs that would engage
in coordinated strategies should BATF attempt to disarm them based
on the "nefarious tipster" theory of law enforcement. Unlike Waco,
Californians should be able to destroy armored vehicles in city
streets with incendiary weapons, acetylene after slowing them down
with abandoned car blockades. M-1 Garands should easily outclass
BATF shock troops with their H&K MP-5 SMGs, and there should be
enough Sony Walkmans and Boom Boxes to overwhelm any FBI psy-war
operation... yes, a good time would be had by all. Billary Clinton
would get what he wanted, a War on Gunowners, the BATF would attempt
to show the anti-gun press they they really, REALLY were in charge
with a 500-man "Charge of the Light Brigade," and the FBI would attempt
to show how _THEY_ really were in charge by asking the Californian
National Guard to level the area with artillary!
:-) :-) :-)
|
8753 | From: Robert Everett Brunskill <rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: "Jump Starting" a Mac II
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 3
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <1993Apr14.144142.9061@mailbox.als.com>
Did you remember to clamp ground to the engine block first?
Rob
|
8754 | From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: Question for those with popular morality
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 102
In article <1993Apr03.044958.15500@microsoft.com> bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver) writes:
>understand what the words mean. Someone who inflicts pain on themselves
>because they enjoy it is a masochist.
>
>And, no: there is nothing wrong with it. You may think it's gross or
>bizarre (and I might agree with you here), but my/your disgust is not equal
>to it being morally wrong.
/(hudson)
/If someone inflicts pain on themselves, whether they enjoy it or not, they
/are hurting themselves. They may be permanently damaging their body.
That is true. It is also none of your business.
Some people may also reason that by reading the bible and being a Xtian
you are permanently damaging your brain. By your logic, it would be OK
for them to come into your home, take away your bible, and send you off
to "re-education camps" to save your mind from ruin. Are you ready for
that?
/(hudson)
/And why is there nothing wrong with it? Because you say so? Who gave you
/the authority to say that, and set the standard for morality?
Why?
Because:
I am a living, thinking person able to make choices for myself.
I do not "need" you to show me what you think is the way; I have observed
too many errors in your thinking already to trust you to make up the
rules for me.
Because:
I set the standard for my *own* morality, and I permit you to do
the same for yourself. I also do not try to force you to accept my rules.
Because:
Simply because you don't like what other people are doing doesn't give you
the right to stop it, Hudson. We are all aware that you would like for
everyone to be like you. However, it is obnoxious, arrogant thinking like
yours, the "I-know-I'm-morally-right-so-I-can-force-it-on-you" bullshit
that has brought us religious wars, pogroms against Jews, gay-bashing,
and other atrocities by other people who, like you, "knew" they were
morally right.
(me)
>What is it with you, Hudson? You think you know better than other people,
>so you want to be able to tell them what they can and cannot do to
>themselves? Who died and made you God? How come I can't do the same
>thing?
/(hudson)
/Aren't you? Aren't you indicating that I should not tell other people what
to do? Aren't you telling me it is wrong for me to do that?
It is not a moral standard that I am presenting you with, Hudson. It is
a key to getting along in life with other people. It is also a point of
respect: I trust other people to be intelligent enough to make their
own choices, and I expect the same to be returned. You, on the other
hand, do not trust them, and want to make the choice for them--whether
they like it or not.
It is also a way to avoid an inconsistency: if you believe that you have
the right to set moral standards for others and interfere in their lives,
then you must, by logic, admit that other people have the same right of
interference in your life.
(Yes, I know; you will say that your religion is correct and tells you that
only agents acting in behalf of your religion have the right of interference.
However, other people will say that you have misinterpreted the Word of
God and that *they* are the actual true believers, and that you are
acting on your own authority. And so it goes).
(hudson)
/Who gave
/you the authority to set such a moral standard for me to tell me that I
/cannot set a moral standard for others?
You can set all the standards that you want, actually. But don't be surprised
if people don't follow you like rats after the Pied Piper.
At the most basic form, I am not going to LET you tell me what to do;
and if necessary, I will beat you to a bloody pulp before I let you actually
interfere in my life.
Now, at a more humane level than that, I recognize that all people are
sentient beings possessed of intelligence and capable of reason. I also
recognize that they, like I, appreciate being treated with respect and
allowed to make their own decisions.
|
8755 | From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Stuff For Sale is GONE!!!
Nntp-Posting-Host: ars
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 10
Thanks to all who responded. The three items (electric vest,
Aerostitch Suit, and Scarf) are all spoken for.
-Gary
--
Gary Wasserman "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc. Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com 617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970 DoD#0216
|
8756 | From: Keith.W.Johnson@tek.com (Keith W. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Viewsonic 17 experience sought (VS 17 vs. NEC 5FG)
Organization: Tektronix, GPI/ND Info Services
Lines: 42
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: keithj.wv.tek.com
>I'd appreciate if you can email or post you positive
>or negative experience with this monitor, especially
>compared to to Nanao 550i.
>I'd summarize if I got multiple responses.
I bought a Viewsonic 17 for use at home but after a week I took it back. I
felt for the money my NEC 5FG that I use at work was a much better monitor.
The NEC is sharper, flatter, less distorted, and more stable. I have heard
complaints from people about the NEC FG series having some quality control
problems but mine has been in use for about a year with no problems at all.
There was nothing really broken with the Viewsonic but overall it did not
match up. I used my ATI Graphics Ultra in setup mode to push the
frequencies to their limits and the Viewsonic exhibited some problems that
the NEC did not. I personally like the non-etched NEC with the OCLI filter
and the tube on the 17 was not as nice. The 17 had some uncorrectable
pincusion and edge distortion problems. Also, it would change brightness
when I switched modes and I was constantly having to fiddle with the
controls. And the yoke was crooked and I had no way to compensate for the
raster that tilted downhill. On the postive side, although not as handsome
as the NEC, the 17 had a smaller footprint and was not as heavy.
I have heard that Panasonic owns Viewsonic and the model 17 is being sold
through OEM channels with a Panasonic label on it. If it's available that
way at a lower cost I could get more serious about it. For now the NEC has
my vote but I'm searching for one of the new, cheaper, NEC 5FGe's to see if
it's just as good as its older brother the 5FG before I decide which one to
buy.
I have no experience with the Nanao. I can never keep the Nanao models
straight and don't have any place I can walk in to get a good comparison of
all models.
--
Standard employer disclaimers apply
--
Keith W. Johnson Tektronix, GPI/ND Info Services, Wilsonville, OR, USA
Internet: Keith.W.Johnson@tek.com Voice: 503-685-2953 Fax: 503-682-3595
|
8757 | From: gerard@dps.co.UK (Gerard O'Driscoll)
Subject: Re: XWindows always opaque
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
hess@swt1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de writes:
>> I wonder if it is possible for a parent window to paint over the area of
>> its childs. If it is not, then how could it be possible to implement a
>> rubberband across multiple xwindows to select the objects that are
>> displayed one in each window?
Use a GC with the subwindow_mode attribute set to IncludeInferiors. The
default is ClipByChildren. However, beware if any of the children are of
a different depth to the parent; the semantics of this are undefined by the
protocol.
Gerard O'Driscoll (gerard.odriscoll@dps.co.uk)
Du Pont Pixel Systems Ltd.
|
8758 | From: pschneid@rzu.unizh.ch ()
Subject: Problem: Maxtor LXT340S spins down with no reason
Keywords: Maxtor 340, Adaptec 1542, SCSI
Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 53
Please help if you can with the following strange problem:
The Maxtor 340 drive in my 386 clone would from time to
time, for no obvious reason spin down completely (one can
tell by the sound) and simply refuse to be accessed. DOS
reacts with an error (Drive D: cannot be accessed or
something the like). Unfortunately, I cannot just reproduce
the error. Sometimes it occurs more often, sometimes
less. The last time it happened was when I wanted to
demonstrate some software to a colleague.
I would like to know if anybody has experienced similar
problems. I don't like to take the thing to the dealer
only to be told that there's nothing wrong with it. I
checked the other post in this group about Maxtor, and
I don't seem to be the only one who has problems. However,
no one describes the same problem, and I also have a
different configuration.
Thanx in advance for any e-mailed help.
Peter
LIST OF EQUIPMENT
Computer "Mandax" Mainboard 386-33, 2MB
Adaptec 1542 SCSI Master
Maxtor LXT340S SCSI-II Hard Drive
NEC CDR-83 CD-ROM Reader (problem remains with CD-ROM removed)
ET4000 VGA Card
CONFIG.SYS
files=30
device=C:\dos\setver.exe
device=C:\windows\himem.sys
device=C:\system\aspi4dos.sys
device=C:\system\aswcdnec.sys /d:neccd
DOS=HIGH
COUNTRY=041,,C:\dos\country.sys
device=C:\dos\display.sys CON=(EGA,,1)
AUTOEXE.BAT
C:\windows\smartdrive.sys
PATH=C:\windows;c:\dos
SET TEMP=C:\dos
MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((437) C:\DOS\EGA.CPI)
MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=437
KEYB SG,,C:\DOS\KEYBOARD.SYS
C:\SYSTEM\MSCDEX /D:NECCD /L:d /v
--
/ Peter Schneider [] Englisches Seminar \
| E-Mail: pschneid@es.unizh.ch [] Universitaet Zurich |
| Phone: (41 1) 257 3554 [] Plattenstrasse 47 |
\ Fax: (41 1) 262 1204 [] CH-8032 Zurich/Switzerland /
|
8759 | From: joe13+@pitt.edu (Joseph B Stiehm)
Subject: Re: This year's biggest and worst (opinion)...
Keywords: NHL, awards
Article-I.D.: blue.7995
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Lines: 93
In article <1993Apr6.170330.12314@is.morgan.com> scairns@fsg.com writes:
>
> MVP Surprise Disappointment
> ---------------------------------------------
>|> New York Rangers Messier Kovalev Bourque
> Gartner Zubov Bourque
>
...
>Bourque - the Penguin's GM must laugh his head off every time he thinks
>of the Rangers and this loser.
>
>+------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Scott Cairns | email: scairns@fsg.com |
>| Fusion Systems Group | usmail: 225 Broadway, 24th Fl |
>| New York, New York, USA | New York, NY 10007 |
>+------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Standard disclaimers apply. |
>+------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| I hope in the future Americans are thought of as a warlike, |
>| vicious people, because then I bet a lot of high schools would |
>| pick 'Americans' as their mascot. |
>| - Jack Handey |
>+------------------------------------------------------------------+
Please. Have a care with Phil. We liked him a lot in Pittsburgh. He
didn't score a lot if you look at his stats last year but he worked his
butt off. It was his speed that created opportunities in the offensive
zone that allowed the Pens to utilize his potential. I haven't been
paying attention to him this year so I can't say I know what you're
objecting to. He has been out with injuries though, hasn't he? And
if the offense isn't there, there's not much his speed will do for you.
Like I said, he created opportunities but he didn't score much. I thought
the money offered from the Rangers was a little high, and so did the Pens,
I guess.
Joseph Stiehm
In article <1993Apr6.170330.12314@is.morgan.com> scairns@fsg.com writes:
>
> MVP Surprise Disappointment
> ---------------------------------------------
>|> New York Rangers Messier Kovalev Bourque
> Gartner Zubov Bourque
>
...
>Bourque - the Penguin's GM must laugh his head off every time he thinks
>of the Rangers and this loser.
>
>+------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Scott Cairns | email: scairns@fsg.com |
>| Fusion Systems Group | usmail: 225 Broadway, 24th Fl |
>| New York, New York, USA | New York, NY 10007 |
>+------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Standard disclaimers apply. |
>+------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| I hope in the future Americans are thought of as a warlike, |
>| vicious people, because then I bet a lot of high schools would |
>| pick 'Americans' as their mascot. |
>| - Jack Handey |
>+------------------------------------------------------------------+
Please. Have a care with Phil. We liked him a lot in Pittsburgh. He
didn't score a lot if you look at his stats last year but he worked his
butt off. It was his speed that created opportunities in the offensive
zone that allowed the Pens to utilize his potential. I haven't been
paying attention to him this year so I can't say I know what you're
objecting to. He has been out with injuries though, hasn't he? And
if the offense isn't there, there's not much his speed will do for you.
Like I said, he created opportunities but he didn't score much. I thought
the money offered from the Rangers was a little high, and so did the Pens,
I guess.
Joseph Stiehm
|
8760 | From: neff123@garnet.berkeley.edu (Stephen Kearney)
Subject: Re: Is ms-windows a "mature" OS?
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
>Why is it that I find the Mac desktop incredibly annoying
>whenever I use it?
Because you are uptight?
Many computer-literate people see advantages in each system.
You act like a Mac ate your cat.
Lighten up!
|
8761 | From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Space Research Spin Off
Lines: 24
Nntp-Posting-Host: skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
In article <1psgs1$so4@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>|
>|The NASA habit of acquiring second-hand military aircraft and using
>|them for testbeds can make things kind of confusing. On the other
>|hand, all those second-hand Navy planes give our test pilots a chance
>|to fold the wings--something most pilots at Edwards Air Force Base
>|can't do.
>|
>
>What do you mean? Overstress the wings, and they fail at teh joints?
>
>You'll have to enlighten us in the hinterlands.
No, they fold on the dotted line. Look at pictures of carriers with loads of
a/c on the deck, wings all neatly folded.
--
Dillon Pyron | The opinions expressed are those of the
TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here) |
(214)492-4656 (when I'm home) |God gave us weather so we wouldn't complain
pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com |about other things.
PADI DM-54909 |
|
8762 | From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes?
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 17
In article <Apr.16.23.15.27.1993.1836@geneva.rutgers.edu> cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk (Michael C Davis) writes:
[it has to do with honoring the laws of the state, and]
>also to do with how people will perceive us; i.e. it is culturally insensitive
>to declare yourself married without going through a civil ceremony.)
I would go further: if a couple are unwilling to have their commitment
publicly witnessed and recorded, that's prima facie evidence that the
commitment isn't really there.
--
:- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : *****
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *********
:- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * *
:- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><
|
8763 | From: lee@luke.rsg.hac.com (C. Lee)
Subject: Re: Crimson (Was: Kubota Announcement?)
Organization: Hughes Transportation Simulation Center, HAC; Culver City, CA
Lines: 30
In article <115072@bu.edu> kiki@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Keith Baccki) writes:
>C. Lee (lee@obiwan.rsg.hac.com) wrote:
>: Did you say DEC Alpha? Upgrade path from [...]
>: 6xx0: replace. Upgrade path from VAX 66x0 to Alpha: replace the system.
> Not totally fair - you haven't mentioned the DECstation
>series. I think if SGI made CISC mainframes they wouldn't provide
>an upgrade path to an Onyx.
I agree with you about the upgrade path; but I think I was fair.
The original posting complained (1) about SGI coming out with newer (and
better) architectures and not having an upgrade path from the older ones,
and (2) that DEC did.
On statement (1), I merely attempted to point out that all computer
companies are constantly attempting to improve their product (& market
position/share). In so doing, they eventually come to a point where they
have a new architecture, and the only upgrade path is to replace the
system. And the particular system he was complaining about was (in
computer lifetimes) relatively old.
On statement (2), I felt DEC's history of providing upgrades was not far
superior than the industry "average", and that, in my opinion, SGI's
history is better than DEC's.
(And what is DEC doing with it's MIPS based DECstation line? Are they
going to "abandon" it for their Alpha based line, or provide an upgrade
path to R4400's and TFP's and R5's?)
--
|
8764 | From: oehler@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Wonko the Sane)
Subject: 48-bit graphics...
Keywords: 48-bit alpha channel IMAGE
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Lines: 15
I was recently talking to a possible employer ( mine! :-) ) and he made a reference to a
48-bit graphics computer/image processing system. I seem to remember it being called IMAGE or
something akin to that. Anyway, he claimed it had 48-bit color + a 12-bit alpha channel. That's
60 bits of info--what could that possibly be for? Specifically the 48-bit color? That's 280
trillion colors, many more than the human eye can resolve. Is this an anti-aliasing thing? Or
is this just some magic number to make it work better with a certain processor.
Also, to settle a bet with my roommate, what are SGI's flagship products? I know of
Iris, Indigo, and Crimson, but what are the other ones, and which is their top-of-the-line?
(sadly, I have access to none of them. Just a DEC 5000/25. Sigh.)
Eric Oehler
oehler@picard.cs.wisc.edu
|
8765 | From: jschief@finbol.toppoint.de (Joerg Schlaeger)
Subject: Re: 16Mb ISA limit
Distribution: world
Organization: myself
Lines: 14
rpao@mts.mivj.ca.us writes in article <C5J6zn.681@mts.mivj.ca.us>:
>
> marka@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Mark Ashley) writes:
>
> >Then the writer claims that glitches can
> >occur in systems with over 16Mb because
> >of that limit. That part I don't understand
> >because the RAM is right on the motherboard.
> >So the cpu should have no problems talking
> >with the RAM. Can anybody explain this ?
The floppy is served by DMA on the motherboard,
and original DMA-controller can't reach more than the first
16MB (The address-space of the ISA-bus)
joerg
|
8766 | From: mneideng@thidwick.acs.calpoly.edu (Mark Neidengard)
Subject: Re: What is Zero dB????
Article-I.D.: zeus.1993Apr06.232039.106816
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo
Lines: 13
>>: The Ohmite company was the first to characterize resistances by numbers, thus
>: our use of the Ohms...
>
>I don't know about this one, but it doesn't sound right.
DAMN RIGHT it doesn't! Ohm's come from the greek letter omega, which
is used for resistance/impedance.
Of course, the original poster MAY have been being facetious (let's hope
so).
Mark Neidengard
mneideng@cosmos.acs.calpoly.edu
|
8767 | From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: H.R. violations by Israel/Arab st.
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Lines: 37
In article <1483500360@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>I am born in Palestine (now Israel). I have family there. The lack of
>peace and utter injustice in my home country has affected me all my life.
Bullshit. You've been in Iceland for the past 30 years. You told us
so yourself. It had something to do with not wanting to suffer the
fate of your mother, who has lived with Jews for a long time or
somesuch. Sounded awful.
>I am concerned by Palestine (Israel) because I want peace to come to
>it. Peace AND justice.
Are you as concerned about peace and justice in Palestine (Jordan)?
>Israeli trights and Palestinian rights are not symmetrical. The first
>party has a state and the other has none. The first is an occupier and
>the second the occupied.
Let's say that Israel grants the PLO _EVERYTHING THEY EVER ASKED FOR_.
That Israel goes back to the 1967 borders. What will the "Palestinean
Arabs" in Tel-Aviv call themselves? The Palestineans in West
Jerusalem? In Haifa? Will they still claim to be "occupied"?
Or do you suggest that Israel expell or kill off any remaining Arabs,
much as the Arabs did to their Jews?
Indeed, there is much which is not symmetrical about the conflict in
the M.E. And most of this lack of symmetry does NOT favor Israel.
>Elias Davidsson
>Iceland
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
|
8768 | From: hambidge@bms.com
Subject: Re: Gun Control
Reply-To: hambidge@bms.com
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb
Lines: 94
In article <C51L52.BGo@magpie.linknet.com>, manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes:
>
>I would be surprised if there weren't contrary studies. I might add that
>Sloan and Kellerman was endorsed by the police departments of both Seattle
>and Vancouver and is considered by most of the references I have at hand the
>most exhaustive study of its kind, even by those who take issue with some of
>the essay's conclusions. S&K's statistics speak largely for themselves
>without postulate.
And, I might add, vitamin C has been endorsed by a Nobel Laureate as a
panacea for almost everything from the common cold to cancer.
> In order to compare violent crime trends, S&K compared >all<
>violent crime categories, from simple assault through various mechanisms of
>homicide.
Wait a minute. S&K did NOT compare trends. If they did, they would
have seen that the advent of Canada's gun law had no effect on
homicides, total or handgun. Without a pre- vs. post comparison, one
cannot speculate as to the utility of anything. All they have is a
correlation, and correlation DOES NOT prove causality.
>If your point is that non-whites commit more handgun crimes than whites
>then yours is the dubious assumption. Conventional social theory is that
>economic status, not color, is the primary motivating factor for crime,
>especially violent crime. What's your point anyway, that white people
>are more responsible gun owners? Should we assume that it's a coincidence
>that there are comparitively fewer white people earning below the poverty
>line and living in tenement neighborhoods where most violent crime occurs?
Hold it again. You dismiss a point about demographics, then you ask
about socio-economic demographics? Very slick.
>
>: Differences between the two cities in the
>: permit regulations render these two numbers strictly noncomparable.
>
>On the contrary, it's these differences that are the very basis of the study:
>the easy availability of legal handguns in Seattle and the much more
>difficult "restricted-weapons" permit required in Vancouver.
Once again, correlation does not prove causality. Looking at pre-vs.
post data, the Canadian gun law had no effect.
>
>Not so. Cook measures suicides and assaultive homicides with
>firearms against a survey-based estimate of the number of legal and
>illegal guns in circulation within a city.
Sir, if you were a Canadian, and owned a gun before the restrictive
gun laws were passed, and decided to hide it rather than turn it in,
would you answer truthfully a question about gun ownership from
someone who calls, writes, or asks you on the street? That is one
problem with surveys. Nobody will answer an incriminating question.
Another is that people will often tell you what they THINK you want to
here.
>
>Again, your author misses the core issue: that Vancouver citizens are
>prohibited from purchasing handguns on the basis of self-defense. They
>don't have a choice in the matter.
Does that mean no Vancouver citizens have handguns? I think not. You
are discounting guns purchased beforehand, and guns purchased for
purposes other than self-defense, which can also be used for defense.
>
>Hmmm... sounds like your author might like a bumper sticker that reads "Guns
>don't kill people, black people kill people!" Honestly, his conjectures,
>backed up by zero evidence, zero studies and even less common sense, aren't
>worth the considerable time it must have taken you to type in. His
>assumptions look frighteningly close to those pseudo-scientific "studies"
>that the white supremist assholes love... the crap that takes published
>statistics, twisted around in an attempt to prove the inherent criminal
>nature of black people.
He makes valid points about demographic differences. You then resort
to the kind of argument that the "Politically Correct" movement often
uses to stifle any debate. Nice, real nice.
>This author's essay contains 0% independent study upon which to base his
>conclusions, just some strained, disjointed statistical discourse attempting
>to blame Seattle's murder rate on blacks.
One doesn't have to produce his own data in order to point out the
flaws in the methodology and conclusions of another's study. Again,
you resort to PC tactics.
Al
[standard disclaimer]
|
8769 | From: lanzo@tekelec.com (Mark Lanzo)
Subject: Re: Key definitions in Emacs + X
Reply-To: lanzo@tekelec.com (Mark Lanzo)
Organization: Tekelec Inc., Raleigh NC
Lines: 44
In a prior article ajaffe@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Andrew Jaffe) wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I use Emacs and I want to customize my keyboard better.
> When I set up stuff in my .emacs with a keymap and define-keys,
> I can only access certain of the keys on my X-Terminal's
> keyboard. I can't get e.g. F10, Home, End, PgUp, PgDn; they all
> seem to have either the same or no keycode. I have a feeling
> this can't be fixed in emacs itself, but that I need to do some
> xmodmap stuff. Can someone help me?
Unfortunately, the key event handling is pretty much hardwired into
emacs. I ran into this problem a while back; my solution was to
change the source code so that all of these special keys generated
character sequences which basically encoded the keysym and modifier
state as escape sequences -- for example, the sequence "ESC [ 1 B 7"
would indicate that the "HOME" key was pressed, with the shift key
down. You could also detect standard keys with odd modifiers, such
as "shift-Return".
If anybody wants these changes, they're welcome to them, but you'll
have to have the source available and be comfortable munging with
it a bit. Basically you have to replace the keypress handling code
in the source file "x11term.c". Maybe if someone at OSF is
interested, I can send them the tweaks, but I imagine they've got
bigger fish to fry (hopefully including the much talked about
emacs V19!). If there's sufficient interest, I'll post the mods
somewhere, although this probably isn't the appropriate group for it.
Notes:
* This special code will only apply if you let emacs create
its own (X11) window. If you run it in plain old tty mode (which
includes Xterm windows) then it's business as usual.
* The patches I made were to version 18.58, under Sun OS 4.1.2
[I also did this a while back under HP-UX]. The patches are
in a chunk of code between '#if sun ... #endif' but could
easily be adapted for anything else.
+-------------------------------------------------------+------- /// -----+
| Mark Lanzo KD4QLZ lanzo@tekelec.com 919-460-5576 | \\\/// |
+-------------------------------------------------------+---- \XX/ -------+
|
8770 | From: daviss@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (S.F. Davis)
Subject: Re: japanese moon landing/temporary orbit
Organization: NSPC
Lines: 46
In article <pgf.735012282@srl03.cacs.usl.edu>, pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering) writes:
|> rls@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Ray Swartz (Oh, that guy again)) writes:
|>
|> >The gravity maneuvering that was used was to exploit 'fuzzy regions'. These
|> >are described by the inventor as exploiting the second-order perturbations in a
|> >three body system. The probe was launched into this region for the
|> >earth-moon-sun system, where the perturbations affected it in such a way as to
|> >allow it to go into lunar orbit without large expenditures of fuel to slow
|> >down. The idea is that 'natural objects sometimes get captured without
|> >expending fuel, we'll just find the trajectory that makes it possible". The
|> >originator of the technique said that NASA wasn't interested, but that Japan
|> >was because their probe was small and couldn't hold a lot of fuel for
|> >deceleration.
|>
|>
|> I should probably re-post this with another title, so that
|> the guys on the other thread would see that this is a practical
|> use of "temporary orbits..."
|>
|> Another possible temporary orbit:
|>
|> --
|> Phil Fraering |"Seems like every day we find out all sorts of stuff.
|> pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|Like how the ancient Mayans had televison." Repo Man
|>
|>
If you are really interested in these orbits and how they are obtained
you should try and find the following paper:
Hiroshi Yamakawa, Jun'ichiro Kawaguchi, Nobuaki Ishii,
and Hiroki Matsuo, "A Numerical Study of Gravitational Capture
Orbit in the Earth-Moon System," AAS-92-186, AAS/AIAA Spaceflight
Mechanics Meeting, Colorado Springs, Colorado, 1992.
The references included in this paper are quite interesting also and
include several that are specific to the HITEN mission itself.
|--------------------------------- ******** -------------------------|
| * _!!!!_ * |
| Steven Davis * / \ \ * |
| daviss@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov * (<o><o>) * |
| * \>_db_</ * McDonnell Douglas |
| - I don't represent * |vv| * Space Systems Company|
| anybody but myself. - * (__) * Houston Division |
|--------------------------------- ******** -------------------------|
|
8771 | From: maven@eskimo.com (Norman Hamer)
Subject: Re: A Miracle in California
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Lines: 22
Re: Waving...
I must say, that the courtesy of a nod or a wave as I meet other bikers while
riding does a lot of good things to my mood... While riding is a lot of fun by
itself, there's something really special about having someone say to you "Hey,
it's a great day for a ride... Isn't it wonderful that we can spend some time
on the road on days like this..." with a gesture.
Was sunny today for the first time in a week, took my bike out for a spin down
to the local salvage yard/bike shop... ran into about 20 other people who were
down there for similar reasons (there's this GREAT stretch of road on the way
down there... no side streets, lotsa leaning bends... ;) ... Went on an
impromptu coffee and bullshit run down to puyallup with a batch of people who
I didn't know, but who were my kinda people nonetheless.
As a fellow commented to me while I was admiring his bike... "Hey, it's not
what you ride, it's that you ride... As long as it has 2 wheels and an engine
it's the same thing..."
--
----
maven@eskimo.com (InterNet) maven@mavenry.altcit.eskimo.com (UseNet)
The Maven@The Mavenry (AlterNet)
|
8772 | From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Duo 230 slowdown problems
Nntp-Posting-Host: rocza.eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Lines: 33
I'm a system and network admin. One of my users has a Duo 230
([*]specifications below) that has been having slowdown problems.
Leaving the Duo on for several hours causes it to slow down
unacceptably. It can take 10-15 seconds to change applications. During
this time it is completely hung. If he reboots, the problem goes away
(For a while). It seems the system is getting itself into a wedged
configuration.
He's re-installed System 7.1 and rebuilt the desktop. Neither of these
have helped.
It's possible that it's network-related, he uses Eudora which checks his
email every 10 minutes (over Ethernet). He hasn't checked to see if this
problem occurs while undocked (he's docked most of the time).
Little to no non-Apple inits, I don't want to start yanking the rest
unless I know that might *really* be the problem.
He hasn't tried zapping the PRAM, I have advised him to do that next.
Anyone who has ideas, I'd love to hear about them. I'd call Apple, but
I've found they're best to call during the week (it's Sunday evening).
[*] Powerbook Duo 230 16/120. 12mb RAM card from Tech Works to replace
non-self-refreshing 8mb card. Is using System Enabler 1.0.1. Express
Modem (including latest software). Has been to Apple Dealer for Keyboard
replacement.
--
Helen Trillian Rose <hrose@kei.com, hrose@eff.org>
Kapor Enterprises, Inc. email eff@eff.org for EFF Info
Electronic Frontier Foundation Flames to:
Systems and Networks Administration women-not-to-be-messed-with@eff.org
|
8773 | From: picano@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Silvio Picano)
Subject: Logitech 2-button mouse & BIOS routines availability ?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Lines: 21
Newsgroups: comp.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Logitech 2-button mouse pin-out & BIOS routine availability?
Distribution: world
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
I have a Logitech 2S-2f (or 2f-2S) 2-button mouse that I want to
interface to a serial port of a different (non-ibm-compatible) system.
The mouse is XT/AT/PS2 compatible, with a DB25 connector. I tried
to reverse engineer the mouse, but it has a micro-controller inside
it.
If I could get the DB25 pin-out, and perhaps a copy of the BIOS routines
that support it, I could map all this into my target system?
Anyone know where I might get the pin-out or the BIOS routines?
Are the routines published someplace convenient?
Thanks!
Silvio
PS....please send email to me directly!
|
8774 | From: david@terminus.ericsson.se (David Bold)
Subject: No News Is Bad News
Reply-To: david@terminus.ericsson.se
Distribution: world
Organization: Camtec Electronics (Ericsson), Leicester, England
Lines: 20
Nntp-Posting-Host: bangkok
I'm having trouble receiving News at the moment due to an overloaded
News server. I think that I can post out reasonably quickly, though.
I'm in a couple of threads at the moment which may be pending replies.
If anyone wants a reply from me over something I've posted then I
suggest sending an e-mail copy of the point to me so that I can reply by
News.
This is one way to shut me up!!
Cheers,
David.
---
On religion:
"Oh, where is the sea?", the fishes cried,
As they swam its clearness through.
|
8775 | From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: the usual
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Lines: 54
arc@cco.caltech.edu (Aaron Ray Clements) writes:
>Yes, I am pro-gun, and yes, I do disagree with this statement.
>Nuclear weapons in and of themselves are dangerous. Radioactive
>decay of plutonium and uranium, as well as the tritium in the
>weapon, tends to be somewhat dangerous to living things.
>(Can you say "neutron flux"?)
Can you say, "I get more background radiation from living in
Denver or having an office in a limestone building than I do standing
next to a power reactor at full power or standing next to a nuclear
warhead that is armed?" Look up "shielding" in your dictionary. You
don't need six feet of lead to make decent shielding; your dead skin
cell layer does an excellent job on alpha particles, and neutrons
are slowed by mere *water*. What do you think 75% of you is?
> Plus these things have no self-
>defense purposes. It's kinda hard to justify their use as
>a militia weapon when at best they are meant for battlefield use
>(low-yield weapons) or at worst for industrial target obliteration
>(translation: cities and population centers).
If the militia has as its job the overthrow of an illegal
government, they are indeed useful weapons to the militia. They
won't be too useful in certain areas, but leveling the Pentagon
would be a "good thing" for said overthrow and it's likely one man
carrying a backpack would stand a better chance than one thousand
armed with Colt Peacemakers. Don't let self-defense become the
only reason you can have a gun and your sole means of justification.
Myself, I won't overthrow my government until it ceases to be my
legal government, but if I need to I want every weapon I can get.
One can just as easily say no rifle larger than a .22 is
needed to kill a human being. They are right. When that human
being is wearing armor and riding in an APC, things get a bit
different. I don't see where the weapon is a problem. It's not.
Only the manner of use is in contention here.
> Not to mention that
>for it to be used as a militia weapon and expect the user to live
>requires some sort of launch vehicle . . .
I guess you either don't have an alarm clock or have never
heard the terms "timer" or "martyr" either. Don't forget remote
detonation devices. That CB radio in the pickup next to you can
easily transmit ten miles in decent weather. That's out of the
blast radius of many portable nuclear devices.
Just what is it about radioactive decay that has you worried?
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
< ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. >
< USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines. Meet exciting, >
< unusual people. And flame them. >
|
8776 | From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX)
Subject: Re: My New Diet --> IT WORKS GREAT !!!!
Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
Lines: 33
In article <19687@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>
>In article <1993Apr13.093300.29529@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes:
>>
>>"Weight rebound" is a term used in the medical literature on
>>obesity to denote weight regain beyond what was lost in a diet
>>cycle. There are any number of terms which mean one thing to
>
>Can you provide a reference to substantiate that gaining back
>the lost weight does not constitute "weight rebound" until it
>exceeds the starting weight? Or is this oral tradition that
>is shared only among you obesity researchers?
Not one, but two:
Obesity in Europe 88,
proceedings of the 1st European Congress on Obesity
Annals of NY Acad. Sci. 1987
>--
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
>geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf
Author of YMODEM, ZMODEM, Professional-YAM, ZCOMM, and DSZ
Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software"
17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD Portland OR 97231 503-621-3406
|
8777 | From: laird@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Subject: Re: Telephone on hook/off hok ok circuit
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Lines: 6
These circuits abound in most electronic project books. If you're more
inclined to buy something, try Radio Shack. I think they still have a
device that is designed to disconnect an answering machine when an
extension line is lifted. It has LED indicators also.
--kyler
|
8778 | Subject: A word of advice
From: jcopelan@nyx.cs.du.edu (The One and Only)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Summary: was Re: Yeah, Right
Lines: 14
In article <65882@mimsy.umd.edu> mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate) writes:
>
>I've said enough times that there is no "alternative" that should think you
>might have caught on by now. And there is no "alternative", but the point
>is, "rationality" isn't an alternative either. The problems of metaphysical
>and religious knowledge are unsolvable-- or I should say, humans cannot
>solve them.
How does that saying go: Those who say it can't be done shouldn't interrupt
those who are doing it.
Jim
--
Have you washed your brain today?
|
8779 | From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: My '93 picks (with only one comment)
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Lines: 53
Distribution: na
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g215a-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
In article <jfr2.733938351@Ra.MsState.Edu> jfr2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jackie F.
Russell) writes:
> psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes:
> >Since I did so well last year, here's another shot at picking the winners
> >and losers. I'll skip the commentary on why I picked who to finish where
> >due to lack of time for flame wars 8^)
>
>
> > Kansas City 25.0
>
> I think KC has a much better shot at being in the top division than
> the bottom. One word(Cone) should help things tremendously. I think
> you are way off the mark here.
Another word (offense) makes them my pick for last too.
(Well, there's also my policy of never picking a Buck Rodgers' team for last)
> > Florida 12.0
> > Chicago 20.0
>
> I dont know if an expansion team has ever finished "not last" but I think
> this year might be a first if it hasnt ever happened. The Cubs are worse
The 1961 Angels were 1/2 game out of 7th. The Athletics and
expansion Senators finished tied for last.
The 1962 Colt 45's finshed 8th - ahead of the Cubs (the Mets were last).
The 1969 Royals finshed 4th - ahead of the White Sox (the Pilots in last).
The 1977 Mariners finished 6th - ahead of the Athletics(in last).
Apparently being an expansion team with a poor A's or Chicago
team around is a `good thing'
> >National League West
>
> > Cincinnati ----
> > Houston 5.0
> > Atlanta 8.0
> ARGH! Here is where you are obviously dead wrong. Not since the Yankees of
> the 20's and 30's has a team been so nicely setup as this years(and years
> to come) Braves. I don't think that the All-Star team will be able to beat
This may be an appropriate comparison.
The 1929-31 Yankees finshed 2nd, 3rd and 2nd finshing
18, 16 and 13-1/2 games out of first.
In 1933,'34 and '35 they also finished second ( though they were only
7, 7 and 3 games out).
Even great teams can lose - That's why they play the season.
(on the other hand... I'm still picking the Braves to go all the way)
john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman
Predictions for '93: Marlins: 70 wins, Rockies: 50 wins
and....Rockies fans will claim that the offense is adequate.
|
8780 | From: rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch)
Subject: Re: Expose Events
Organization: Oracle Europe
Lines: 40
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
I posted about this a while ago but without code excerpts noone was
able to help me.
The problem is that main_win.win is doing fine, but when I create
detail_win.win, it does not receive it's initial expose events until
main_win.win receives an event. Here are the relevent calls:
main_win.win = XCreateSimpleWindow (mydisplay, DefaultRootWindow(mydisplay),
myhint.x, myhint.y, myhint.width, myhint.height,
main_win.line_thick, fg, bg);
XSetStandardProperties(mydisplay, main_win.win, main_win.text,
main_win.text, None, argv, argc, &myhint);
main_win.gc = XCreateGC (mydisplay, main_win.win, 0, 0);
XMapRaised (mydisplay, detail_win.win);
XMapSubwindows (mydisplay, main_win.win);
The event mask for main_win is:
PPosition | PSize | StructureNotifyMask | ExposureMask| KeyPressMask |
EnterWindowMask | LeaveWindowMask;
The flags are
PPosition | PSize
I then create detail_win.win with the following calls (hints has new values):
detail_win.win = XCreateSimpleWindow (mydisplay, DefaultRootWindow(mydisplay),
myhint.x, myhint.y, myhint.width, myhint.height,
detail_win.line_thick, fg, bg);
XSetStandardProperties(mydisplay, main_win.win, detail_win.text,
detail_win.text, None, argv, argc, &myhint);
detail_win.gc = XCreateGC (mydisplay, detail_win.win, 0, 0);
XMapRaised (mydisplay, detail_win.win);
Event Mask and flags are identical to main_win's flags and event mask.
If anybody has any idea why the initial expose events of detail_win.win
are not received until main_win.win receives an event I'd love to hear
from them. Other that that everything works great so there must be some
detail I'm overseeing.
Thanks for any tips
---> Robert
rgasch@nl.oracle.com
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8781 | From: pchurch@swell.actrix.gen.nz (Pat Churchill)
Subject: Re: eye dominance
Organization: Actrix Networks
Lines: 21
> In article <C5E2G7.877@world.std.com> rsilver@world.std.com (Richard Silver) writes:
> >
> >Is there a right-eye dominance (eyedness?) as there is an
> >overall right-handedness in the population? I mean do most
> >people require less lens corrections for the one eye than the
> >other? If so, what kinds of percentages can be attached to this?
I have a long sighted eye and a short sighted eye. My right eye tends
to cut out when I look at distant things, my left eye when I am close
up. I had specs to balance things up a bit but could do without them.
I thought that, one way or another, I would always be able to see
clearly. Unfortunately middle age is rearing its ugly head and I can
no longer see close up objects clearly. Maybe it's just that my arms
are getting shorter :-)
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The floggings will continue until morale improves
pchurch@swell.actrix.gen.nz Pat Churchill, Wellington New Zealand
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8782 | From: shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday)
Subject: Re: was:Go Hezbollah!
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Lines: 81
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: composer.think.com
In article <1993Apr16.130037.18830@ncsu.edu>, hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) writes:
|>
|> In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
|> |>
|> |> Are you suggesting that, when guerillas use the population for cover, Israel
|> |> should totally back down? So...the easiest way to get away with attacking
|> |> another is to use an innocent as a shield and hope that the other respects
|> |> innocent lives?
|>
|> Tell me Tim, what are these guerillas doing wrong? Assuming that they are using
|> civilians for cover, are they not killing SOLDIERS in THEIR country? If the
|> buffer zone is to prevent attacks on Israel, is it not working? Why is it
|> further neccessary for Israeli guns to pound Lebanese villages? Why not just
|> kill those who try to infiltrate the buffer zone? You see, there is more to
|> the shelling of the villages.... it is called RETALIATION... "GETTING BACK"
|> ..."GETTING EVEN". It doesn't make sense to shell the villages. The least
|> it shows is a reckless disregard by the Israeli government for the lives of
|> civilians.
If you recall, a subject was raised some weeks ago that touched upon
this. When someone claimed that guerillas were manifestations of
popular sentiment, the topic arose:"When does a civilian stop
becoming a civilian?". If he houses and shelters guerillas of
his own free will, aiding them, has he violated his "civilian" status?
|> |> What? So the whole bit about attacks on Israel from neighboring Arab states
|> |> can start all over again? While I also hope for this to happen, it will
|> |> only occur WHEN Arab states show that they are *prepared* to take on the
|> |> responsibility and the duty to stop guerilla attacks on Israel from their
|> |> soil. They have to Prove it (or provide some "guaratees"), there is no way
|> |> Israel is going to accept their "word"- not with their past attitude of
|> |> tolerance towards "anti-Israel guerillas in-residence".
|>
|> If Israel is not willing to accept the "word" of others then, IMHO, it has
|> no business wasting others' time coming to the peace talks.
But don't you see that the same statement can be made both ways?
If Lebanon was interested in peace then it should accept the word
of Israel that the attacks were the cause for war and disarming the
Hizbollah will remove the cause for its continued occupancy. Afterall,
Israel has already staged two parts of the withdrawal from areas
it occupied in Lebanon during SLG.
|> Tim, you are ignoring the fact that the Palestinians in Lebanon have been
|> disarmed. Hezbollah remains the only independent militia. Hezbollah does
|> not attack Israel except at a few times such as when the IDF burned up
|> Sheikh Mosavi, his wife, and young son. Of course, if Israel would withdraw
|> from Lebanon and stop assassinating people and shelling villages they wouldn't
|> make the Lebanese so mad as to do that. Furthermore, with Hezbollah
|> subsequently disarmed, it would not be possible.
That is not exactly true. The Hizbollah and their affiliated groups
have made several attempts to infiltrate the border of Israel.
|> |> It has not. Without the support, and active involvement, of Syria,
|> |> Lebanon would not have been able to accomplish all that has occurred.
|> |> Once Syria leaves who is to say that Lebanon will be able to retain
|> |> control? If Syria stays thay may be even more dangerous for Israel.
|>
|> Tim, when is the last time that you recall any trouble on the Syrian border?
|> Not lately, eh?
|>
|> Israel knows very well that the Syrians are able to restrain ALL who would use
|> territory under their control to attack Israel. While Lebanon would be better
|> off with Syria and Israel out of its borders, the presence of Syrian troops
|> in Lebanon has meant a sharp decrease in attacks on Israeli territory (not on
|> Israeli troops in Lebanon, however. Please note the distinction) in the
|> past two years.
True, but the Syrians did allow (until at least 1984) guerillas to operate
in the areas that were under their control, provided that those guerillas
were attacking Israeli lines.
The problem is that Syria is also not as stable a partner for long term
peace as others in the area might be.
--
Shai Guday | Stealth bombers,
OS Software Engineer |
Thinking Machines Corp. | the winged ninjas of the skies.
Cambridge, MA |
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8783 | From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)
Subject: Re: Question about Virgin Mary
Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 28
>As the moderator noted, I think you mean the Assumption. Catholics
>believe that the Blessed Virgin Mary went to Heaven body *and* soul at
>the end of her life. This is unusual because the normal course of
>events is for your body to decay in the grave and stay that way until
>the Resurrection of the Dead.
Well, it wasn't that way for Enoch and Elijah, both of whom were
translated directly into heaven. It's beyond my grasp why some object
that Mary, who was far greater than either Enoch or Elijah, should not
benefit from the same privelege they recieved. She was after all,
Mother of God, full of grace, and immaculate.
>Historically, belief in the Assumption can be found in the writings of
>St. Gregory of Tours (late 6th century).
And in St. Germain of Constantinople and St. John of Damascus, and in
St. Andrew of Crete, among others.
And it should be noted that the Monophysite Chruches of Egypt and Syria
also hold to this belief as part of divine revelation, even though they
broke away from the unity of the Chruch in 451 AD by rejecting the
Council of Chalcedon. It might be argued by some Protestants that the
Catholics and Orthodox made this belief up, but the Monophysites, put a
big hole in that notion, as they also hold the belief, and they split
from the Chruch before the belief was first annunciated in writing (as
far as is known, much has been lost from the time of the Fathers).
Andy Byler
|
8784 | From: husak@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Stephen R. Husak )
Subject: Tape Drive Problems
Article-I.D.: ux1.C52szz.489
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 17
Please reply via e-mail since this is job related:
I have a Colorado Jumbo back-up system at one of my places of
employment and it has eaten two tapes by winding the tape off the spool.
Is there an easy fix or is the tape drive fried? Does it simply need
cleaning?
Any and all comments will be appreciated!
Stephen Husak
--
"What am I trying to do, what am I trying to say, I'm not trying to tell you
anything you didn't know when you woke up today..."
- Depeche Mode "Nothing" MUSIC FOR THE MASSES
-= Stephen R. Husak - husak@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu - Univerisity of Illinois
|
8785 | From: frodel@dhhalden.no (Frode Lundemo)
Subject: Apple 13" giong brighter
Nntp-Posting-Host: pc138
Organization: Ostfold Regional College
Lines: 4
My Apple 13" RGB monitor has over the past few months gone brighter and
brighter and the colors are not as rich as before. Has anyone out there
encountered a similar problem? Dows anyone happen to know what this problem
may be due to?
|
8786 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: O.T.O clarification
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 19
In article <79895@cup.portal.com>, Thyagi@cup.portal.com (Thyagi Morgoth
NagaSiva) wrote:
> They are considered different and largely unrelated by a number of
> sources. I've seen documentation which links them through the figure
> of H. Spencer Lewis. Lewis was apparently involved with Reuss, who
> was the O.H.O. of Ordo Templi Orientis for many years. Apparently it
> is also true that Lewis had a charter to form an O.T.O. body and then
> created A.M.O.R.C. (as a subsidiary? an interesting question).
If anyone is interested in the history of AMORC, I do think Spencer
Lewis published books about the beginning and his mission. The
Alexandria bookstore (that's the name of the book store operated
by AMORC) should have a selection that should provide the interested
reader more insight).
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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8787 | From: gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine)
Subject: Re: plus minus stat
Nntp-Posting-Host: hudson.uvic.ca
Reply-To: gballent@hudson.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Lines: 47
In article 1qmtd1INNr1l@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca, gibson@nukta.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson) writes:
<In response to a debate about who has has a better season- Jagr of Francis>
I think Jagr did he probably had a better point per minute ice time- stats
don't exist to properly analyze this and he had a substancially better +/-.
> Actually, what I think has become more evident, is that you are determined to
> flaunt your ignorance at all cost. Jagr did not have a better season than
> Francis ... to suggest otherwise is an insult to those with a modicum of
> hockey knowledge. Save your almost maniacal devotion to the almighty
> plus/minus ... it is the most misleading hockey stat available.
>
> Until the NHL publishes a more useful quantifiable statistic including ice
> time per game and some measure of its "quality" (i.e., is the player put out
> in key situations like protecting a lead late in the game; is he matched up
> against the other team's top one or two lines; short-handed, etc), I would
> much rather see the +/- disappear altogether instead of having its dubious
> merits trumpeted by those with little understanding of its implications.
+/- is a useful statistic. If a player is on the ice when his team scores a
lot of goals and only allows a few goals, he must be doing something right.
It is especially useful to compare between teammates- as they play for the
same team and should have roughly similar +/- ratings if they are equally
good players. It can be adjusted- with varying degrees of success to compare
between players on different teams.
I agree it would be nice for the NHL to keep more statistics- but how useful
are the ones that you suggest?? Total ice time would be very useful- it is
a missing stat in Jagr vs Francis arguments from before. Somehow measuring
the quality of ice time as you suggest would be useless. It would be a
better stat for evaluating coaching- ie are the players given quality ice
time actually their talented ones? A very good player could be given low
amounts of quality ice time because of team depth or a stupid coach who
doesn't recognize his talent and a very bad player could be given lots of
quality ice time because of a lack of team depth or a stupid coach that
thinks he is an effective player. This stat would be much more flawed than
+/- and almost no conclusions could be drawn regarding player talent.
+/- is a useful stat. It is quite useful in evaluating player talent.
You are the one displaying ignorance because of your unwillingness to see
that being on the ice when goals are scored but not when they are allowed
is a very positive thing- and should be evaluated as such.
Gregmeister
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8788 | From: mkawecki@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (michael.kawecki)
Subject: *** TurboGrafx System For SALE ***
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Lines: 25
Take Everything for $210
TurboGrafx-16 Base Unit (works like new) with:
1 Controller
AC Adapter
Antenna hookup
* Games:
Kieth Courage
Victory Run
Fantasy Zone
Military Madness
Battle Royal
Legendary Axe
Blazing Lasers
Bloody Wolf
--------------------------------------
* Will sell games separatley at $25 each
--------------------------------------
Please Call Mike: 908-949-3804 (Day)
908-469-3250 (Eves)
|
8789 | From: dagibbs@quantum.qnx.com (David Gibbs)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Advice for New Cylist
Organization: QNX Software Systems, Ltd.
Lines: 73
In article <C5r7Ey.7Mq@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> blaisec@sr.hp.com (Blaise Cirelli) writes:
>
>So the question I have is "HOW DANGEROUS IS RIDING"?
Tough question -- more dangerous than driving a car, and far more
dangerous if you don't apply a modicum of intelligence to the
activity. Basically, stupidity will get you hurt/killed a lot
faster on a motorcycle than in a car. But with care, it is
not unreasonably dangerous. Also, buying good protective
clothing is helpful, that way if something does go wrong,
you are likely to be less severely injured.
First thing, if possible take a (MSF) driver training course,
this will get you started on the right foot -- they teach
control of the vehicle and safe riding practices.
Second, buy protective gear. At minimum a good helmet
and a pair of leather gloves are a must. A good sturdy
piece of footgear is also very helpful, though leather hiking
boots, a pair of old army boots, or something similar works fine
for this purpose as long as you make sure the laces stay
tied. After those, a leather jacket and leather pants or chaps
are nice as well; but these are also expensive items. For the
pants, many people consider a good pair of jeans to be reasonable,
preferably recent and of a fairly heavy weight. Similarly for
a jacket, a good jean jacket is a reasonable compromise, though
more people tend to have leather jackets around than pants. Another
thing to do is drop in on garage sales looking for a second-hand
leather jacket. Look for a fairly thick leather in these items.
Third don't do anything stupid -- don't ride after
drinking, even one drink can noticeably affect you judgement
and balance; don't ride in the snow, or when conditions
are such that black ice is likely; be very careful riding
in the rain -- slow way down, take corners gingerly,
brake early and gently; try not to ride if you are sick,
tired, taking any medication with drowsiness warnings, or
otherwise not in average shape.
With care, you should be ok.
>The next question I have is what bike would you recommend for
>a first time rider. I don't want to race; nor do I want to
>ride cross country; nor do I want to ride on dirt trails. I'll
>probably drive it on back roads with occasional rides on city
>streets and freeways. The maximum I can spend is about $2500 so
>I'll be looking at a used bike.
I would suggest mid to late 80's japanese mid-sized standard.
Something in 400-650 cc range would probably be reasonable. If
you are shorter/lighter than average, you might want to go as
low as a 300-400 cc bike.
Possible models:
The Suzuki GS### series (eg. GS500, GS650, etc.). These are generally
inline 4 bikes, generally dependable except for a tendency to
weakness in the charging system. (Stator and/or Regulator/Rectifier
problems.) My first bike was a (about '82) GS650, it server me well.
The Honda Nighthawk series (this may also be known as the CB### series
I think). eg. Honda CB450, CB650, etc. This is another series of
standard motorcycles. Also fairly dependable.
Kawasaki and Yamaha probably have similar bikes, but I don't know
them as well.
For mid to late '80s models of the above, you should be able to
buy the bike for under $2000, leaving you money for protective
clothing and insurance and licensing costs.
Hope this helps,
-David
(dagibbs@qnx.com)
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8790 | From: ac999135@umbc.edu (ac999135)
Subject: <><><> WANTED: TG-16 Games --- 2 Player or More <><><>
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Lines: 6
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc8.umbc.edu
X-Auth-User: ac999135
Well, the title says it all...I'm looking to buy cheap used
TG-16 Gmaes which have 2 or more player support (Simultaneous)....
Please email me all offers with a price...
Rohit
|
8791 | From: martinkm@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kenneth michael Martin)
Subject: PADS model of a 68hc11.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Lines: 5
Has anyone done a model of the 52 pin version of the 68hc11? It doesn't
seem to be too big a job, but if someone else has already done it ...
many thanks
Ken Martin
|
8792 | From: jingyao@rainier.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jinyao Liu)
Subject: a few CDs for sale (brand new)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa
Lines: 10
$6.95 each. add $1.05 for postage (4th class), that makes it $8.
All these 5 discs are still shrink wrapped
(1) Kathleen Battle,Wynton Marsalis Baroque Duet Sony Classical
(2) David Sanborn, Upfront Elektra
(2) Kenny G Live Arista
(3) Jimmy Buffett,Songs You know by heart/greatest hits MCA Records
(4) Billy Ray Cyrus, Some Gave All Mercury
(5) En Vogue, Funky Divas Eastwest Records
|
8793 | From: paull@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Robert Paull)
Subject: Re: Newspapers censoring gun advertisements
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Lines: 17
Andy Freeman (andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: >NEWSPAPER AD CENSORSHIP
: >
: >San Fran. Independent San Fran. Examiner San Jose Mercury News
: >1201 Evans Ave 110 5th St. 750 Ridder Park Dr.
: >San Fran., CA 94124 San Fran., CA 94103 San Jose, CA 95190
:
Hmmm, the SJ Merc. carries Targemasters West, National Shooting club,
Reeds sportshop, Sportsmens supply and Big 5 ads. They all sell guns.
No they don't have any adds like in Shotgun news. If they won't at least
run the current adds I swear I'll cancel my subscription and end to cash
to the CRPA.
Rob P.
|
8794 | From: chakaw@stein.u.washington.edu (Chak-Yoon Aw)
Subject: Is there any documentation for Microsoft Diagnostics?
Article-I.D.: shelley.1qk9uqINNh0s
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu
Hi,
I found what I believe is an undocumented feature in my windows directory,
Microsoft Diagnostics, ver 2.00. I am specifically interested in a more
in depth explanation of the legends in the memory mapping report.
Thanks.
Chak Aw
chakaw@u.washington.edu
|
8795 | From: noye@midway.uchicago.edu (vera shanti noyes)
Subject: Re: Why do people become atheists?
Reply-To: noye@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 92
In article <May.7.01.09.59.1993.14571@athos.rutgers.edu> mayne@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>In article <May.5.02.50.42.1993.28665@athos.rutgers.edu> Fil.Sapienza@med.umich.edu (Fil Sapienza) writes:
[why are atheists atheists/ believes it could be the result of
"brokenness"]
>This is condescending at best and a slightly disquised ad hominem
>attack. This attitude on the part of many theists, especially the
>vocal ones, is one reason for the hostility you sense. How do you
>like it when atheists say that people turn to religion out of
>immature emotionalism?
i agree -- if you are going to find out anything from people who don't
share your beliefs, do not attack them or condescend to them and hope
to get a neutral picture of them. come to them with an open mind.
>I don't believe that atheists are generally any more "broken"
>than anybody else. Any cause and effect is likely to be the
>other way. There is an emotional price to pay for being different,
>hearing one's beliefs (or lack thereof) condemned, and one's
>motives and character attacked.
well, you do believe in something, as i see it, even if it is a sort
of "anti-belief" (no negative connotation meant; i mean simply that
you believe that God _does not_ exist). christians can also feel that
sense of "difference", however, when they are associated with "those
weird televangelists who always talk about satan". if you'll excuse
the cliched sound of this, everyone has to deal with his/ her
differences from other people. i can understand how being an atheist
could be hard for you; being a christian is sometimes hard for me.
>I became an atheist when I got old enough to reason because there
>was just no good reason to believe the religion I had been taught.
>This was very painful because of the pressure I was placed under by
>my family and friends. I wanted to fit in, believe, and be accepted.
>I tried, but finally the cognitive dissonance was just too great.
you should not have to repress how you feel -- you should be able to
discuss it without fear. i think there are admirable things to learn
from any belief, which can enrich your own -- by asking myself the
questions that atheists may ask me, i can learn the answers and become
stronger in my faith. if my faith can't support knowing the answers
to those questions, it is weak and untrue.
>I have sympathy for gays growing up in repressive environments and
>having to hide and sometimes at first try to deny a part of themselves
>because I've been there. Only in my case it was my rationality instead
>of sexuality which I was forced to try to repress.
in some way the pressures were different, of course, because you
"chose" your beliefs -- or are you saying that they were not your
choice, but born of necessity? [please, no flames about whether or
not gay people "choose" their lifestyle -- that's elsewhere in this
newsgroup]
> I must say that I
>wasn't hurt by my experiences in church any more than some of my friends
>who didn't become atheists. I was just hurt differently.
i'm not sure i understand this sentence -- could you explain?
[moderator points out that many/ most atheists aren't "hostile", they
just cease believiing in xiantiy/ religion]
>True. Consider also that people like Pat Robertson and many of the
>Christian extremists in soc.religion.christianity naturally evoke
>hostility by their attacks on anyone who disagrees and their attempts
>to force their views on others. You are known by the company you keep.
>Christians trying to preach in alt.atheism should not be surprised by
>hostility.
ouch, yes. part of being a christian is accepting _everyone_ with an
open heart -- including people of "our own camp" with whom we
completely disagree. by the same token, i believe that accusation and
suspicion are not the best way to reach out to those not of our faith,
nor is it effective to try to browbeat people into accepting our
religion. i have a different idea of mission: be what i am, a
christian who is happy in her faith, and if others see that and want
to know about either the happiness or the religion, i'll share what i
know without pressure and let them make their own decisions. at some
point you just have to agree to disagree -- acceptance of diversity,
not uniformity, is the way to sow peace....
>Bill Mayne
vera noyes
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I am your CLOCK! | I bind unto myself today | Vera Noyes
I am your religion! | the strong name of the | noye@midway.uchicago.edu
I own you! | Trinity.... | no disclaimer -- what
- Lard | - St. Patrick's Breastplate | is there to disclaim?
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8796 | From: drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand)
Subject: Re: Drawing Lines (inverse/xor)
In-Reply-To: singg@alf.uib.no's message of Wed, 21 Apr 93 11:19:19 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Lines: 47
In article <1993Apr21.111919.5281@alf.uib.no> singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George Gjerde) writes:
In article <1993Apr19.191531.15865@news.media.mit.edu>, dyoung@media.mit.edu (David Young) writes:
:
:
|> XSetFunction( myDisplay, gc, GXxor);
|> XSetForeground( myDisplay, gc, drawIndex);
|>
|> Then to draw I do:
|>
|> XDrawLine( myDisplay, XtWindow( drawingArea1), gc, x1, y1, x2, y2);
|> XFlush( myDisplay);
|>
|> And when I'm all done, to return things to normal I do:
|>
|> XSetFunction( myDisplay, gc, GXcopy);
|>
|>
|> What I'd like to happen is for the lines I draw to be the inverse of
|> whatever I'm drawing over. Instead what happens is I get white lines. If
|> the lines are over a white background - nothing shows up. If the lines are
|> over a black area - nothing shows up! It's very strange. But the GXxor
|> function seems right - since if I do a rubber-banding box, it erases and
|> redraws itself correctly (ie. not disturbing the underlying image).
|>
|> Any suggestions what I'm doing wrong?
|>
|> david
Try change the GXxor to GXequiv. I have to do this for programs that
are to run on NCD terminals (on Sun terminals I have to change it
back to GXxor)...
There is a small section in the O'Reilly Xlib books that describes
the right thing to do. The key is to set the plane_mask in the
GC to the OR of the foreground and background pixel values.
--
Douglas S. Rand <drand@osf.org> OSF/Motif Dev.
Snail: 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142
Disclaimer: I don't know if OSF agrees with me... let's vote on it.
Amateur Radio: KC1KJ
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8797 | From: conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt)
Subject: Re: Being right about messiahs
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, University of Texas at Austin
Lines: 11
[The following is my comment on an article by Desiree Bradley. --clh]
>By the way, from Koresh's public statement it's not so clear to me
>that he is claiming to be Christ.
Koresh did originally claim to be the Christ, but then backed off and
said he was a prophet. The latest news at 8:00 CDT from Waco is that
the feds broke through a wall of the compound with a tank. No news
besides that at this time.
Paul
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8798 | From: tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock)
Subject: Re: Final Solution for Gaza ?
Nntp-Posting-Host: orion.oac.uci.edu
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Lines: 39
In article <1993Apr26.172744.23230@colorado.edu> perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (Eric S. Perlman) writes:
>In article <1483500354@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>>
>>[...]
>>The Gaza strip, this tiny area of land with the highest population
>>density in the world, has been cut off from the world for weeks.
>>The Israeli occupier has decided to punish the whole population of
>>Gaza, some 700.000 people, by denying them the right to leave the
>>strip and seek work in Israel.
>
>Anyone who can repeate this choice piece of tripe without checking
>his/her sources does not deserve to be believed. The Gaza strip does
>not possess the highest population density in the world. In fact, it
>isn't even close. Just one example will serve to illustrate the folly
>of this statement: the city of Hong Kong has nearly ten times the
>population of the Gaza strip in a roughly comparable land area. The
>centers of numerous cities also possess comparable, if not far higher,
>population densities. Examples include Manhattan Island (NY City), Sao
>Paolo, Ciudad de Mexico, Bombay,...
>
>Need I go on? The rest of Mr. Davidsson's message is no closer to the
>truth than this oft-repeated statement is.
>
Elias' initial statement certain *is* hot air. But it seems to be
almost standard procedure around here to first throw out an absurb,
overstated image in order to add extra "meaning" to the posting's
*real point*.
However, his second statement *is* quite real. The essential sealing off
of Gaza residents from the possibility of making a living *has happened*.
Certainly, the Israeli had a legitimate worry behind the action they took,
but isn't that action a little draconian?
--
Tim Clock Ph.D./Graduate student
UCI tel#: 714,8565361 Department of Politics and Society
fax#: 714,8568441 University of California - Irvine
Home tel#: 714,8563446 Irvine, CA 92717
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8799 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Muslims were one by one cruelly bayonetted to death by Armenians.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Apr15.132954.4396@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>How dare you presume that he even has a right to go around a newsgroup
>with a desire to convince others of any external position he has.
They are news because they are the exceptions. And the 'Islamic Holocaust'
is much the topic of the day. The historical evidence proves that during
the period of 1914 to 1920, the Armenian Government ordered, incited,
assisted and participated in the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people
because of race, religion and national origin. Armenians perpetrated acts
of sabotage, destroyed telephone cables, blew up bridges, blocked passes,
set up ambushes, attacked security stations and small Turkish outposts
behind the Ottoman Army lines on the one hand, and on the other ruthlessly
attacked Turkish and Kurdish villages, slaughtering the Turkish population
indiscriminately, women, children, old and young alike. Innocent
Muslims were one by one cruelly bayonetted to death, or massacred with
axes and swords, or else shut up in mosques or in schools and then burnt
alive as can be seen below.
Widespread Armenian massacres of innocent Muslims took place in regions
of Van, Kars, Sivas, Erzurum, Bitlis, Erzincan, Mus, Diyarbakir and
Maras. The Ottoman Army, while fighting to prevent the Russian invasion,
also had to deal with Armenian genocide squads who cowardly hit from
behind. The Armenian genocide of the Muslims spread to all parts of
Eastern Anatolia. Starting from late 1914, Armenians committed
widespread massacres and genocide in Eastern Anatolia, because the arena
was left to the Armenians. Almost every Turkish town and village from
Erzincan up to Azerbaidjan suffered large scale massacres and genocide
by Armenians and the Turkish genocide has been documented by Armenian,
Russian, American, British, Ottoman, German, Austrian and French
journalists and officers who observed the first genocide of this century
committed by the blood-thirsty Armenian genocide squads.
The Ottoman Army, liberating Trabzon, Bayburt, Erzincan, Erzurum,
Kars and other regions from the Russians, saw that the cities and their
villages had been destroyed and burnt, people slaughtered, massacred.
The massacres conducted by Armenians, which became a black stain for
humanity, shocked and disgusted even the Russian, British, German,
Austrian, French and American authorities.
Almost every Ottoman document is related to Armenian massacres and
cruelties. The inhuman treatment, cruelties, atrocities, genocide by
Armenian genocide squads perpetrated against innocent Moslem Turkish
and Kurdish people, are sufficiently reflected in historical documents.
Even today over seventy-five years later, the terrifying screams of
the victims of these cruelties can be heard.
Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
"Document No: 76," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 109, Drawer
No: 3, File No: 346, Section No: 427(1385), Contents No: 3, 52-53.
(To Lt. Colonel Seyfi, General Headquarters, Second Section,
Istanbul - Dr. Stephan Eshnanie)
'Neues Wiener Tagblatt' - Vienna, 'Pester Lloyd' 'Local Anzliger' - Berlin,
'Algemeen Handelsblat' - Amsterdam, 'Vakit' - Istanbul.
"I have been closely following for two weeks the withdrawal of Russians and
Armenians from Turkish territories through Armenia. Although two months
have elapsed since the clearing of the territories of Armenian gangs, I
have been observing the evidence of the cruelties of the Armenians at
almost every step. All the villages from Trabzon to Erzincan and from
Erzincan to Erzurum are destroyed. Corpses of Turks brutally and cruelly
slain are everywhere. According to accounts by those who were able to
save their lives by escaping to mountains, the first horrible and fearful
events begun when the Russian forces evacuated the places which were then
taken over by Armenian gangs. The Russians usually treated the people
well, but the people feared the intervention of the Armenians. Once these
places had been taken over by the Armenians, however, the massacres begun.
They clearly announced their intention of clearing what they called the
Armenian and Kurdish land from the Turks and thus, solve the nationality
problem. Today I had the opportunity to meet Austrian and German soldiers
who had escaped from Russian prison camps and come from Kars and
Alexander Paul (Gumru-Leninakan)...Russian officers tried to save the
Turks and there were clashes between Russian officers and Armenian gangs.
I am now in Erzurum, and what I see is terrible. Almost the whole city is
destroyed. The smell of the corpses still fills the air. Although there are
speculations that Armenian gangs murdered Austrian and German prisoners as
well, I could not get the supporting evidence in this regard, but there is
proof of murdering of Turkish prisoners of war."
Dr. Stephan Eshnanie
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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