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scelli#0001: It will take longer but it’s just as effective
JoshTheTechie#2808: yes @scelli forgot about those
scelli#0001: :Smart:
JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah my friend gave me my psu tester a while ago and I've never had a multimeter surprisingly
JoshTheTechie#2808: Probably why I forgot about that way of testing 😅
Xbo... |
Muse#0557: Properly carded
Xbox 360 1953#2640: this is my anti sag setup https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719371825959927868/unknown.png
Muse#0557: Get cash money
Xbox 360 1953#2640: i flipped ovr the cooler now
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I added a toothvrush to stop the thing from moving around https... |
Muse#0557: Why are you using userbenchmark
Gamefreak924#5901: yeah
Muse#0557: Wdym yeh
Muse#0557: I asked why
Gamefreak924#5901: oh why? Because it's quick and easy?
Muse#0557: Is inaccurate as hell
Gamefreak924#5901: what's a better benchmarking software?
Gamefreak924#5901: everything else seems accurate
Gamefreak924#... |
Muse#0557: Doesn't matter
Lumaterian#3557: my 2080 ti must be good, look how high my 3dmark vantage score is
Muse#0557: Inaccurate is inaccurate
Muse#0557: Use a mix of cinebench
Muse#0557: Crystal Disk
Muse#0557: And actual in game bechmarks
Muse#0557: Also on the high end simulation renders
Gamefreak924#5901: I just ... |
Lumaterian#3557: but anything that can have brand bias 100% does
Gamefreak924#5901: memory
Lumaterian#3557: those guys suck intel/nvidia's dicks so hard there's no point
Gamefreak924#5901: is basically all I need to know
Muse#0557: If you're running a crap top
Lumaterian#3557: aida64 has a good memory tester
Muse#0557:... |
Lumaterian#3557: well the way usermeme's score %age is calculated
Gamefreak924#5901: well alrighty
Lumaterian#3557: is they take their 'ideal system' and bench the ratings against that
Lumaterian#3557: which I would assume is a 9900K and 2080 Ti
Muse#0557: Which is absolutely ridiculous to try and compare a Threadrippe... |
Gamefreak924#5901: N2830 CPU, 8GB RAM, Samsung 850 EVO
Lumaterian#3557: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/81071/intel-celeron-processor-n2830-1m-cache-up-to-2-41-ghz.html
Muse#0557: Yeh you aren't speeding that up
Lumaterian#3557: cpu is actual trash
Muse#0557: It's the cheapest of the cheap
Muse#055... |
Muse#0557: They allocate the budget to 8gb of ram and emmc instead
Lumaterian#3557: I have a chromebook with one of those cpus
Gamefreak924#5901: the cheap ones now have quad cores though
Lumaterian#3557: and with more than 2 tabs it chugs
Muse#0557: Emmc degrades combined with performance so within 3 years they are pu... |
Muse#0557: Then gamefreak is wrong
Lumaterian#3557: who lol
Gamefreak924#5901: used keyboards is why you don't buy a used laptop
Muse#0557: Just went against our point
Muse#0557: If it bothers you that much
Muse#0557: Spend 5 minutes cleaning it
Gamefreak924#5901: dude
Lumaterian#3557: or, get a replacement keyboard
Lu... |
Gamefreak924#5901: you don't know what I've seen when parting out laptops
Muse#0557: Because I've never seen a laptop keyboard
Gamefreak924#5901: hah
Muse#0557: Fella I've turnt yellow plastic white again
Gamefreak924#5901: it's part of my job
Muse#0557: With effort it's fine
Gamefreak924#5901: not when you've seen the... |
Muse#0557: My brain
Lumaterian#3557: lol
Lumaterian#3557: I've had open box stuff where I couldn't tell it had been used before
Lumaterian#3557: refurb stuff too
Muse#0557: Beggars trying to be not only choosers... But condemning things
Muse#0557: Just hurts
wiryfuture🦀#1706: y'all can stop crying over having dirt or ... |
MythologicalZ#3752: if a card has a single 8 its generally not going to draw that much power
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Is there a difference between this ink
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x100ml-Printer-Refill-INK-for-Canon-Pixma-mg2150-mg2200-mg2250-mg3150-mg3250/233351270866
and this ink ?
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-1... |
estr0#0019: Last BIOS update was in 2007 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/719539672128159814/unknown.png
estr0#0019: I can't check if it needs a BIOS update as there's not a processor in there and it won't boot without one.
estr0#0019: It probably does, manufactured in 2006. No way of updating ... |
Argon_18#7133: Oh, I might have
Argon_18#7133: Ya I think I did
Argon_18#7133: oops
DarknessFalls229#2286: welp theres your issue
DarknessFalls229#2286: either move them back or create new/edit the shortcuts
Argon_18#7133: K
Cody#0117: Anyone tried Aliexpress Ryzen CPU’s?
Cody#0117: Also now back with the Medion mother... |
Cody#0117: > @Cody
> If you've tried a dimm in the slots individually to ensure they are all working, and tested all the dimms in a working slot. I don't know what would be the issue.
>
> Only possible problem I could see is they are mixed dimms/density and for some reason that was causing it. Or some bios issue
@Alcyo... |
Bogi76#3090: i mean i usually max i go in terms of overclocking is like mild overclock
Bogi76#3090: nothing too extreme
boog#9487: My tv has a line that runs down the screen and changes color every now and again
boog#9487: Is it the panel or the control boards maybe the ribbion cable connections?
JustinXenyx#8854: Do y... |
boog#9487: Like a capacitor or a board completely?
boog#9487: Or maybe just a connection
boog#9487: I gotta go on a walk but I'll be back in 15-20 minutes
gemsticks#2781: would a ryzen 7 2700 + 1050ti be a bottleneck?
gemsticks#2781: just asking to be safe before i upgrade my cpu
JustinXenyx#8854: It's not a bottleneck... |
gemsticks#2781: got it
gemsticks#2781: but if i were to upgrade my cpu, which one should i ideally go for?
JustinXenyx#8854: Definitely the R5 3600
gemsticks#2781: but isnt that a bit of a bottleneck?
gemsticks#2781: id rather go for r5 2600 if thats the case
JustinXenyx#8854: Again, it's not a bad bottleneck really
Ju... |
Muse#0557: 3600 is the best for gaming
Muse#0557: Like Justin said best for PS3 emulation out of your options
gemsticks#2781: got it
gemsticks#2781: since i mainly emulate games after all, might as well go for it
gemsticks#2781: Honest question though
gemsticks#2781: what ryzen cpu is best paired with the 1050 ti?
Capt... |
Muse#0557: Then a Gpu to go with that in the future
Muse#0557: @gemsticks
Baus#4058: i have a i5 4460 with a 1050ti and the gpu is still the bottleneck
Muse#0557: "Muse is right" - Baus
Baus#4058: exactly
Baus#4058: 1050ti is surprisingly weak and did not age well at all
Baus#4058: i got 60fps from 750ti till the day i... |
Muse#0557: That's really good
boog#9487: I'm gonna provide a bit more information on my Samsung UN65JU650DF it will not turn on and the power light is blinking weirdly seemingly random brightness and such and sometimes it will pulse but almost always off for a bit (or on at a low brightness and then brightens 6 and dim... |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/720019046392922133/unknown.png
Silentdragon#6383: if the WiFi is working it's probably nothing to worry about
Silentdragon#6383: but routers can be weird sometimes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I've googled it and on their forums apparently it's a bug
w... |
Alcyone#2233: 3600
Muse#0557: Emulators love clocks
DarknessFalls229#2286: did you answer your own question or something?
DarknessFalls229#2286: cause i was waiting to respond
Tinybox#9112: Quick question;
Should I get a new Corsair VS350 (THE NEW EDITION OF COURSE, warranty and everything) for 14 euros?
Or a used one ... |
Tinybox#9112: @Muse I'm just getting one for an i5 2500 (non k) and a GTX 460Ti @uv quick 50 euro PC that I was suppose to make 6 Months ago, but the uh pandemic killed the market.
Yea ill wait for the 2nd guy (local) to respond, and see if I can pick it up, I dunno what I will do with the 2nd one, yet...but eh.
thatub... |
Baus#4058: i5 750 is still surprisingly a good cpu
Baus#4058: relatively speaking
Xbox 360 1953#2640: no
gemsticks#2781: no I meant as in like
gemsticks#2781: say if he got a gtx 1050 or something
gemsticks#2781: wouldn’t the cpu be limited
JustinXenyx#8854: Nope
JustinXenyx#8854: the GPU would be limited
Baus#4058: na... |
gemsticks#2781: :Xdxdxd:
JustinXenyx#8854: GPU Bottleneck = the GPU is the limiting factor
JustinXenyx#8854: CPU Bottleneck = the CPU is the limiting factor
gemsticks#2781: ok so I’d prefer a GPU bottleneck than a CPU bottleneck
gemsticks#2781: cpu bottlenecks are nightmares from what I’ve seen
JustinXenyx#8854: > na 1... |
Baus#4058: and thats saying alot
thatubuntuguy#5914: My system with 2500k and rx 470 is still gpu bottlenecked
thatubuntuguy#5914: As Justin is saying gpu bottleneck is pretty much normal
Baus#4058: cpus really aged really well
thatubuntuguy#5914: Yeah, especially the 4c8t stuff
JustinXenyx#8854: first gen Core i aged ... |
Baus#4058: nope
JustinXenyx#8854: 4th gen is in this weird "this would be decent, if not massively overpriced" phase and it doesn't seem like it will get out of that in the next while
Baus#4058: where im from i5 still sell for 200$
Baus#4058: 4th gen
Alcyone#2233: thats about the price of an i7k here
Baus#4058: and sel... |
gemsticks#2781: plus the pc still runs windows 7 so
Baus#4058: maybe go one gen back and go 950?
Baus#4058: not gonna argue since i dont exactly know its performance
JustinXenyx#8854: 950 barely makes any sense
thatubuntuguy#5914: 950 is considerably weaker than rx 470 if i understand correctly
thatubuntuguy#5914: not ... |
Alcyone#2233: molex?
JustinXenyx#8854: a bit risky for an RX570 imo
Alcyone#2233: i was thinking a single 6 pin card
JustinXenyx#8854: RX570 is single 6 pin
JustinXenyx#8854: But the thing with the molex adapters is that they'd have to pull all 12V power over a single wire
JustinXenyx#8854: Which isn't really recommend... |
Alcyone#2233: that would be fine
Alcyone#2233: that is hardly>1 amp
Alcyone#2233: so like 3-4 fans
thatubuntuguy#5914: online its rated at 120w
thatubuntuguy#5914: but my rx 470 definitely pulls less
thatubuntuguy#5914: amd drivers show about 80-90 watts
Alcyone#2233: could undervolt and limit PL as well
thatubuntuguy#... |
Baus#4058: if im gonna buy im gonna get them from ebay or amazon
Baus#4058: prices are much more reasonable
Baus#4058: so rx 580 is good or is it more sensible to go full beans with rx 5600
JustinXenyx#8854: RX5600XT wouldn't make a lot of sense unless you plan to upgrade your CPU as well in the coming months
Baus#4058... |
JoshTheTechie#2808: I'm sure someone on here knows what's going on and will know more about it but going off my experience it could be an issue with the motherboard
JustinXenyx#8854: Something is being shorted @Ramiere
JustinXenyx#8854: And yes, this has the potential to harm your components
JoshTheTechie#2808: have yo... |
This isn't the verge pc guide, your components are supposed to be in the case, not floating, so it's fine if your hard drive is touching your case
wiryfuture🦀#1706: A pc I once got my hands on would power off because the audio cable was connected to audio_link instead of *hd* audio because the pinout looked similar, m... |
Racey#8574: first gen as a whole is hot garbage
gemsticks#2781: yeah but still asking
gemsticks#2781: he needs to replace his gt 210 first
Racey#8574: Probably the GTX 970 at best
Racey#8574: A tech helper will probably give the best feedback
gemsticks#2781: time to wait!!!
gemsticks#2781: thanks anyways, appreciate it... |
thatubuntuguy#5914: I know it's a little different in your case but i think its still worth trying
Muse#0557: How would a 3550 handle cemu
Muse#0557: Specifically botw
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Muse probably fine? i ran BoTW on my Q6600 @3.6GHz with 6GBs of DDR2 and an r9 270x at 20+ FPS with vulkan 7020p
DarknessFalls22... |
Muse#0557: Seems like a bad call to pick that for one game
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: and with asynchronous compute shadercaching isnt that laggy anymore
DarknessFalls229#2286: i should put my shoddy 690 on my testbench and test FPS with that
Muse#0557: Double kepler is double trouble
Lady Mipha... |
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats literally 50% over base
Muse#0557: That's fair
DarknessFalls229#2286: i tried more than 3.6 but it crashes at 3.8 instantly
DarknessFalls229#2286: ill try on my other board maybe another time
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Muse are you gonna play with keyboard, KB&M or controller?
Muse#0557: Bit o... |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my computer boots into windows fine, but if i spam del/f2/f10 the screen stays blank
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i'm not seeing the standard oem image at boot either
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it just stays black and then windows
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how do i get into my bios?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: there's no option in wi... |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my screen goes black when I try boot off a linux usb as well
Muse#0557: That's not good
Muse#0557: Have you tried clearing the cmos?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah I'm going to try that in a sec
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I still can't get into the bios
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this is cringe
Muse#0557: Cronk
wiryfuture�... |
gemsticks#2781: <https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-A320M-A/HelpDesk_CPU/>
Lady Mipha#0611: yeah but a320 is the worst board gen there is @gemsticks
Lumaterian#3557: ^
Lumaterian#3557: yes but don't
TheFifthAce#4128: and dont get an asus prime
gemsticks#2781: i currently use it
gemsticks#2781: thats why im aski... |
gemsticks#2781: ok i looked it up and appreatly the tempreatures can rise alot
gemsticks#2781: is this true or nah
gemsticks#2781: if so i may just go for another cpu
Muse#0557: I don't see any issues happening at stock
Muse#0557: The 3600 has the same tdp as the ryzen 5s that came out at the same time as a320
gemstick... |
TheFifthAce#4128: aio stinky
TheFifthAce#4128: drp4 is over the top
Lumaterian#3557: fuck aio
Lumaterian#3557: drp4 overkill
Lumaterian#3557: get shadow rock 2 or 3
Lumaterian#3557: they're much cheaper and still probably overkill
thatubuntuguy#5914: drp4 it is then
thatubuntuguy#5914: :Hahahahaha:
thatubuntuguy#5914: ... |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Cursed https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/721058952825143306/Screenshot_20200612-135027_Discord.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: not as cursed as my crossfire build on a single pcie lane
DarknessFalls229#2286: though that didnt work at all
estr0#0019: got the old dell dimension e521... |
Alcyone#2233: x2 to x16?
Alcyone#2233: pcie is all the same layout regardless of generation
Racey#8574: I think he means PCI-e 2.0 to PCI-e 1.0 x16
layton#0621: can anyone help me set up a raid array
layton#0621: between two drives
layton#0621: been told i should use raid 0
JustinXenyx#8854: I have 3 questions
JustinXe... |
gemsticks#2781: thanks
estr0#0019: Could a GT 240 run off a 305W PSU? Current specs for this old computer are an Athlon 64 x2 5000+, 2GB DDR2 (going to 4GB DDR2)
DarknessFalls229#2286: it should be fine i feel
Razorsz#5056: anyone kwow what a constant beep suggests? the laptop is struggling to get into the OS and just ... |
Razorsz#5056: i believe 2008
Razorsz#5056: oop. 2 beeps and im into startuiprecovery, i took a stick of ram out of the pissy top slot
Razorsz#5056: o shi- it be loading into vista
BigPierogi#3368: Could be a speed limit
BigPierogi#3368: Or size limit
Razorsz#5056: well this laptop sould support 4 max
BigPierogi#3368: O... |
Razorsz#5056: no idea which key is the culprit and i might as well
Razorsz#5056: nope cuz its the password bar, comes up in circles
BigPierogi#3368: No "view password"?
BigPierogi#3368: Or like a button
Razorsz#5056: ill try, if not ill mash the keys a bit lol
Razorsz#5056: not booting again, ye ill just take em all of... |
Razorsz#5056: *i think*
Razorsz#5056: well...caps is fixed, the other key isnt xD
Razorsz#5056: i think i found our culprit
Razorsz#5056: the caps key and the Q key
Razorsz#5056: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/721421822888771674/3a658765-a67d-499a-8128-111f2713bb6a.jpg
Razorsz#5056: @BigPier... |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: *bios
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm going from celeron 540 to 8250u
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i think the laptop might be uefi only
JustinXenyx#8854: Tried booting in legacy mode?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: because of Toshiba's custom uefi
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I can't modify the bios
wiryfuture🦀#1706: otherwise I'd just in... |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: guess I'll just wait until my friend will let me use his i5 8600 pc or whatever to do iy
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my i3 2100 pc's motherboard is fucked up
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I blame intel motherboard :crome:
Muse#0557: My brain hurts
Muse#0557: I must be speaking a different language again
Muse#0557: Becau... |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: whatever, problem solved: pain
Muse#0557: I'm going to lie down
Muse#0557: Wait no I cant
Muse#0557: I'm going to go watch futurama
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I just got electrocuted by a laptop charger
wiryfuture🦀#1706: weird, I've never had that happen to me
wiryfuture🦀#1706: the charger wasn't plugged i... |
Muse#0557: You should be fine
Muse#0557: You'd know if it was a proper shock
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I've been shocked a lot of times, I defo know
wiryfuture🦀#1706: * touches positive and neutral on socket :Hahaha: *
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this could just be availability bias, but I'm pretty sure my joints are always extra cli... |
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so i am planning to buy a laptop for school and i am not sure what brand i should buy from and specs than can handle some titles like cs go, valorant something like those
D.D.M#8226: Any recommendations?
vegetal#8870: cldvo
vegetal#8870: clevo
MythologicalZ#3752: no, just get new ryzen shit, those ... |
Muse#0557: The Gpu one is bae
thatubuntuguy#5914: The ultimate pc building guide
thatubuntuguy#5914: Thing is we'd have to update it every 6 months
Muse#0557: It's a psd
Muse#0557: So it's not too bad
thatubuntuguy#5914: Yeah i guess so
Muse#0557: Honestly don't even know if I would add the 3090 and crap
Muse#0557: Jus... |
Muse#0557: It's not a buyers guide
Muse#0557: It's a hierarchy
thatubuntuguy#5914: For GPUs I meant
thatubuntuguy#5914: mb
Muse#0557: Markets change so much
Muse#0557: And used prices it's just not reasonable
thatubuntuguy#5914: Yeah i understand, it was my bad phrasing
Muse#0557: I'll make a storage one
Muse#0557: Com... |
Muse#0557: Now they are over 100
thatubuntuguy#5914: Yup
thatubuntuguy#5914: I copped mine for £90
thatubuntuguy#5914: Rio copped a 470d for like £40 iirc
Muse#0557: I'll make hierarchies for Storage, PSU and Cpu but I need some input from other members and tech helpers
MythologicalZ#3752: psu and storage in a simple t... |
MythologicalZ#3752: guess if you go by specs it wouldn't be hard
MythologicalZ#3752: then just link to drives off the sheet with the specs
TheFifthAce#4128: all my homies hate phison s11
MythologicalZ#3752: 🙏
Muse#0557: I was thinking updating the 2.5" and m.2 ssds
Muse#0557: Then combining them and throwing in some p... |
TheFifthAce#4128: h
Muse#0557: Just put a wd blue in the bottom tier
Muse#0557: Also some Toshiba and Seagate drives
TheFifthAce#4128: wd blues are fine
Muse#0557: Then black a tier above
Muse#0557: Or something
TheFifthAce#4128: wd greens are not fine
Muse#0557: So green and server drives in bottom
TheFifthAce#4128: s... |
TheFifthAce#4128: assuming its not smr
Muse#0557: Most people are going to be buying a 1 or 2tb
TheFifthAce#4128: you're making big generalizations that are just cring
Muse#0557: Gotta sacrifice inclusivity
Muse#0557: For accessibility
MythologicalZ#3752: ehh, I think those are fair generalizations
MythologicalZ#3752: ... |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: so bigger hdd faster? that's interesting
Xbox 360 1953#2640: so like, 4tb 5400 is faster than 2tb 7200?
DarknessFalls229#2286: more platters and drive heads = more speed
mi3night#2562: Wd blacks are good
mi3night#2562: But they’re expensive
DarknessFalls229#2286: cause it can read multiple sectors a... |
D.D.M#8226: For school and some lighter and older games
D.D.M#8226: North Macedonia
mi3night#2562: If It’s for school do u want a ultrabook or a gaming laptop
D.D.M#8226: Well a gaming laptop yes
mi3night#2562: Oh ok try to get a acer nitro 5
mi3night#2562: They’re pretty solid for budget gaming laptops
mi3night#2562: ... |
Alcyone#2233: larger capacity ssd that are the same model usually have better transfer speeds
TheFifthAce#4128: @Muse ...but it is true
TheFifthAce#4128: higher capacity HDDs, excluding SMR, are faster than lower, even at lower rotation speeds
Muse#0557: Ik
Xbox 360 1953#2640: whats the point of smr? is it just to make... |
JustinXenyx#8854: I personally feel like Youtube is pretty much out of the question and even e-mailing is gonna be a massive shit fest
Spartacutie#2806: OOF
Spartacutie#2806: But thanks for the clarity and honesty, tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: This phone is proper "bottom of the barrel" stuff, with as much RAM as a modern day... |
Spartacutie#2806: True
JustinXenyx#8854: Minimalism shouldn't mean taking loads of compromises and having a shitty experience, at least in my books
gemsticks#2781: question but what would be a good gpu to pair with ryzen 5 3600
gemsticks#2781: once I get a job I’ll have to replace my 1050 ti
JustinXenyx#8854: I feel li... |
gemsticks#2781: so im in trouble then?
gemsticks#2781: ehhh not so much
gemsticks#2781: as far as emulation goes ill be fine
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd say you are in trouble
JustinXenyx#8854: You're gonna loose a **decent** chunk of performance because of slow memory like that
gemsticks#2781: most games are locked at 30fps... |
russ_the_b#5525: your hdd is dying
russ_the_b#5525: or already dead
Xbox 360 1953#2640: uh oh
Lumaterian#3557: exactly what it says on the tin
Lumaterian#3557: tbh windows just does that if the drive is fine if you bsod or crash too much
Xbox 360 1953#2640: would it do that if i powered it off wrong?
Lumaterian#3557: u... |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: some old hitachi drive that says its running at 1.5 Gb/s
Lumaterian#3557: sata link speed doesn't matter
Lumaterian#3557: for hard drives anyway
Bertie Kemp#1114: Hi guys, my brother has just got £500 for his bday today and wants to upgrade his cpu and mobo. He has a Z97-E mobo, 16gb ddr3 and an i5-... |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Out of stock.
russ_the_b#5525: you will get bottlenecked with something like a 1660 but a 1050-1060 is still a better gpu and no bottlenecks
uoʇsodɾ#2412: 1660 = 1060
russ_the_b#5525: now isnt a good time to jump to a new platform plus if its only gaming the cpu is fine
russ_the_b#5525: yeah no i was wron... |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I'm using a i7 4900MQ and still find it quite fast.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Everything is out of stock.
russ_the_b#5525: shits out of stock so alot of stuff are overpriced
Bertie Kemp#1114: ryzen 5 3600 is around £160? is that overpriced?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I want my X570 Mobo for under $370 but is currently found for $... |
TheFifthAce#4128: dont pay money for haswell @Muse
TheFifthAce#4128: not u
uoʇsodɾ#2412: The i5 overclocked may still give better performance than the i7 no k.
TheFifthAce#4128: @Bertie Kemp
Bertie Kemp#1114: So if i shouldnt get the i7 and shouldnt get ryzen, what should i get for him?
Muse#0557: You should get ryzen
... |
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: dont buy i7
TheFifthAce#4128: waste of money
TheFifthAce#4128: no upgrade path
TheFifthAce#4128: hot
Muse#0557: Biskit
Muse#0557: What's your budget
Muse#0557: First off
TheFifthAce#4128: ryzen 5 1600af is 110 pounds brand new
uoʇsodɾ#2412: No upgrade path if you always buy new.
... |
TheFifthAce#4128: shut the up
Muse#0557: Biskit if you could just say your budget
Muse#0557: Then we can help with good recommendations
Bertie Kemp#1114: I have an i7-4790k and 980ti in my pc, i was gunna recommend ryzen to him over the i7 upgrade, my plan is to wait until tomorrow when the b550 motherboards are out, g... |
TheFifthAce#4128: so it has the same upgrade path
Bertie Kemp#1114: i thought b550 would support 4000 and maybe up to 6000, the 3 gens of support like we are used to
TheFifthAce#4128: no
Bertie Kemp#1114: did i miss an article on the upgrade path?
TheFifthAce#4128: amd is dropping am4 for 5000
Bertie Kemp#1114: well cr... |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722167957916090529/ox9T8jbLhY3AgOKu.png
Bertie Kemp#1114: soooo basically get a good b450 (so it will support 4000) and then get a cheap 2600 for now until he can save up for a ryzen 9 4950x or something?
TheFifthAce#4128: thats a year old
TheFift... |
TheFifthAce#4128: you DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT
Bertie Kemp#1114: I know he's already bought 16gb ddr4 so i think hes made up his mind on upgrading from ddr3 + haswell, so just need a bit of help finding a good motherboard and cpu for £400
TheFifthAce#4128: @Bertie Kemp b450-a pro max, 2600, then get like an 8... |
TheFifthAce#4128: but thats all that really might happen
Muse#0557: I doubt prices will change
Bertie Kemp#1114: okay, but a 2600 wont be any cheaper or anything?
TheFifthAce#4128: nah
TheFifthAce#4128: just get a 6 core 2nd gen ryzen chip and a decent b450, he can upgrade later to something like a 3700x/4700x
TheFifth... |
TheFifthAce#4128: and are providing useless, wrong information
uoʇsodɾ#2412: But they did. And went back on it because of backlash.
Muse#0557: He just said "You're completely correct about support from AMD... But what if they randomly pull a 180"
TheFifthAce#4128: intel never went back on anything because of backlash
T... |
TheFifthAce#4128: lol
TheFifthAce#4128: bulldozer sucked cock
TheFifthAce#4128: fuck fx
TheFifthAce#4128: worse IPC than the pentium 3 vibe
Muse#0557: You're spreading false information and leaking shit from every hole
Muse#0557: We aren't going to be inviting to that
uoʇsodɾ#2412: What info was false?
wiryfuture🦀#170... |
Muse#0557: Going to pull out my eyeballs
Bertie Kemp#1114: Okay, @uoʇsodɾ I appreciate you trying to help but i think ryzen is the way to go. @Muse and @TheFifthAce, think ive got a better idea at what to buy now, thanks guys!
Muse#0557: Biskit TLDR... Don't buy a 6 year old I7... Get a 3700x and B450 for 400
mi3night#... |
TheFifthAce#4128: 2600 is still in stock
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722170484279607357/full.jpg
Muse#0557: Moment
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722170541657555044/300x300.jpg
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Is a good b450 is stock?
mi3night#2562: take adv... |
mi3night#2562: i7 8700k is $320 atm
mi3night#2562: 7700k is $270
thatubuntuguy#5914: Bruh
thatubuntuguy#5914: What's happened now
Muse#0557: Somebody recommending an i7
Muse#0557: Over ryzen
thatubuntuguy#5914: Another dollartechdeal i see
Muse#0557: Because ryzen support bad
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @mi3night Haha. Both not wort... |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: No. locked I7 and the 35W desktop I7 are not at the top of the stack.
Lumaterian#3557: first of, all you've invented a chipset
Lumaterian#3557: X59 doesn't exist
Lumaterian#3557: second, X5**8** and X79 only had 2 generations
MythologicalZ#3752: all intel hedt has only had 2
Lumaterian#3557: except X299
L... |
Muse#0557: Amd are supporting 4 (actually decent generation leaps) on a single board
Muse#0557: I don't think that's ever been done before
Muse#0557: How can you say bad support
Muse#0557: Also what is your point here
Muse#0557: Everything you are saying is either bending the truth
Muse#0557: Or completely pointless
Lu... |
Lumaterian#3557: which are 4th and 5th
Lumaterian#3557: which are 2nd and 3rd
Muse#0557: Even then
Muse#0557: This is only one minor mistake
Muse#0557: He has spouted out
Muse#0557: @MythologicalZ @TheFifthAce @JustinXenyx Fellas care to help develop a cpu list?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: My i7 HEDT knowledge is not that great. I s... |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: That's all. GPU's
Muse#0557: > But cpu
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean
TheFifthAce#4128: you could
TheFifthAce#4128: you could
TheFifthAce#4128: but whats the point
TheFifthAce#4128: are we only taking performance into account?
TheFifthAce#4128: because then 8700k would be near the top despite being a bad purcha... |
TheFifthAce#4128: untrue
TheFifthAce#4128: people will be stupid regardless of how stupidproof you try to make stuff
Muse#0557: It would help
Muse#0557: Better than nothing
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @Muse Find a B550, B450, X470, or a X550 Mobo that is not out of stock at the MSRP price.
Muse#0557: Find a single I7 that's comparab... |
JustinXenyx#8854: > holy shit I had no idea there was a B450-E
@Lumaterian B450-E is just a branding thing, the chipset is still just B450
Lumaterian#3557: yes I'm aware
Lumaterian#3557: I mean the SKU of board
Lumaterian#3557: I thought the only one worth a damn was the F
Muse#0557: Tbf I didn't know either
Lumaterian... |
Muse#0557: Think they tried shifting stock too early combined with lockdown
TheFifthAce#4128: @uoʇsodɾ ds3h is at its normal 73$, tomahawk max is at its normal 115
russ_the_b#5525: all i understood from this is that gpus are gay https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/722178074610761938/unknown.png
Mu... |
TheFifthAce#4128: it says best buy for me
Muse#0557: You probably filtered it to just amazon or something
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Best buy says out of stock.
TheFifthAce#4128: wack
TheFifthAce#4128: in stock near me
TheFifthAce#4128: :flosh:
TheFifthAce#4128: kinda cring
TheFifthAce#4128: all this is irrelevant because hes uk, n... |
Muse#0557: TLDR is recommending a few Cpus at each price point depending on what's available
TheFifthAce#4128: :flosh:
Muse#0557: Also
Muse#0557: There is going to be like 40 mobos in stock tomorrow
Muse#0557: Anyway
TheFifthAce#4128: very vibe
Muse#0557: So who cares about B450 stock
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I would go with a 8 ... |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: The in stock makes a huge difference.
TheFifthAce#4128: msi said they will
Muse#0557: You have a skill
Muse#0557: For only read what suits you
Muse#0557: B550 is bringing like 40 mobo models tomorrow
Muse#0557: With tons of stock
TheFifthAce#4128: can we please ban jpos from this channel
TheFifthAce#4128:... |
Bertie Kemp#1114: @JustinXenyx My brother has decided to go with the Strix B450-E, a 3600 and 16gb ddr4, so here's hoping that it supports 4th gen in the future and maybe he can get an upgrade and i can have the 3600 for my b450 TUF
TheFifthAce#4128: https://images.hothardware.com/static/migratedcontent/reviews/images/... |
Muse#0557: Nvm
Muse#0557: Screw me sideways
uoʇsodɾ#2412: The in stock makes all the difference.
Muse#0557: I have said
Muse#0557: 3
Muse#0557: Times
Muse#0557: That
Muse#0557: B550
Muse#0557: Tomorrow
Muse#0557: Brings
Muse#0557: Fucking
Muse#0557: Stock
JustinXenyx#8854: And better boards aswell^
TheFifthAce#4128: mo... |
Muse#0557: Is b550 pcie 4.0?
TheFifthAce#4128: just like how b450 is x470 and how b350 is x370
uoʇsodɾ#2412: And PCIe 4.0 to the chipset.
TheFifthAce#4128: @Muse yes but less pcie 4.0
thatubuntuguy#5914: Bruh this is still going on
thatubuntuguy#5914: :crome:
Muse#0557: Some how
TheFifthAce#4128: per manu but 16x is on... |
AhmedST#6627: Ok @JustinXenyx thanks for explaining
Muse#0557: That is acceptable too
thatubuntuguy#5914: Justin for mod
Muse#0557: Go hop in suggestions then
Muse#0557: This is what I have so far
>1 I3 540
>10 x3430
>20 I5 2400
>30 I5 3470
>50 I7 2600
-75 1600/9100f
-90 1600 af
>130 2600
-160 3600/9400f
>200 2700x |
-280 3700x
Muse#0557: .
Muse#0557: > = less than
- = about this much
wiryfuture🦀#1706: please no not 2nd gen intel
wiryfuture🦀#1706: first gen i3 :crome:
Muse#0557: £1 lmao
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't care how much it costs if it isn't going to be a good experience lol
BigPierogi#3368: sell it to dollar
Muse#0557: Bud... |
mi3night#2562: Or if u want any performance
mi3night#2562: X99 or 2011-3 is good however if ur going to be running a server with a lot of pcie slots
mi3night#2562: For example 10 gb ethernet, raid card, a lot of nvme
Muse#0557: Who mentioned x99
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Currently 2 TB is the largest HDD sold in the 2.5 inch 7mm f... |
Lumaterian#3557: they have 0 ccd to ccd latency
Lumaterian#3557: but it also sucks ass
Lumaterian#3557: currently watching this 7900X get beaten in my benchmarks by a fucking i7 4770
Lumaterian#3557: for gaming performance
Lumaterian#3557: what a goddamn meme
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Intel HEDT was good for workstations and light... |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Intel's problem is there massive die's, 14nm, 10nm , and outdated architecture. Mesh is good with 100+ cores on a single die. 18 cores makes no sense.
Muse#0557: Lithography and die size is not the same thing
JustinXenyx#8854: 14nm dies would be fucking mad
Lumaterian#3557: well considering I'm getting hi... |
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