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And people call me crazy for keeping my 2yo son at home while I WFH… Daycare will be happening soon tho, just found out baby #2 is on the way last weekend!
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Kid has pink eye right now and the pharmacy is out of the medicine that was prescribed. Fun times
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Preach brother. We're in a constant cycle of sickness, divided over 2 parents and 2 kiddos. Always at least 1.
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Laughs in swedish its like 140 dollars a month
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Makes it even more fun when you get sick from your kid, your kid recovers, then you have a small child who wants to play but you and your partner feel like death.
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And the daycare workers are woefully underpaid. But it’s simple math - if you want low child:adult ratios, that means each kid is responsible for a much higher percentage of the cost of the adult. And if you also want the adults to be paid fairly so they don’t make up the shortfall by selling your kid on the dark web, that costs more too. And there’s the whole “keeping the lights on and the roof intact” piece too. At least that can be spread across all the kids.
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Come to the Netherlands. Government pays approx. 80% of daycare costs.
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Kid in my toddler's class tested positive for COVID 1 week after Winter Break. Wife & I now tested positive for COVID. Ugh
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doesn't even have to be your kid. i went to my sister's spot last thanksgiving and the 2 y/o had a rash. turned out to be hand foot mouth disease. i was in the most fucking pain--washing hands with warm water felt like boiling grease. my throat was sore--eating anything felt like ingesting needles. when the skin on my hands started to peel...it felt like i was washing with gloves on. i'm better now.....but hand foot & mouth disease can FUCK RIGHT ON OFF LOL
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I can't speak to other countries, but in the U.S. we clearly need a better way to support young families. It's
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i can finally say that my kid went from being the receiver to now the provider of germs. He's not been sick once for the last 6 months. I've also grown accustomed to his germ dealing methods and gotten my immune system to be stronger. My wife though, she's in bad shape every month. ​ We all suffer because the wife suffers hehe
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Lmao best meme I’ve seen on this sub so far.
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This is why I am so grateful for my neighbor. She is retired and still maintains her state certification and only does daycare for her close friends and family for 5 bucks an hour!
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The fact that daycares don't refund you for sending your kid home sick is such a scam
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I'm here with my guy. His first week was last week and we've had two different stomach bugs. We've used it 40% of possible days at full charge.
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Our was sick 14 times the first 12 months of preschool. Luckily, now he’s basically never sick so I guess it established his immune system.
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At least I get a fraction back with that pre-tax FSA claim at the end of the year.
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Lol half a paycheck? I wish daycare for one kid in my neck of the woods is 1300 bi weekly and she's sick every 3 days.
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This comment section really makes me realize that I take my wife staying home for granted
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There’s unfortunately only one way to build an immune system
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My favorite is burning up all my vacation time because my kid has a 100 degree fever.... and I still have to pay for it. It's like their hurting me with my own money. Thankfully daycare costs will come down soon, right after we figure out this health care thing.
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If I remember correctly... Every few months *you'll* get sick with a bug/virus that should have been on the CDC's watch-list. They'll be fine though, and will just walk it off.
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if you wanted affordable child care, then, are you supporting progressives and/or bernie sanders? if not - this your own fault.
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My kid is going in sick, as long as it's not fever and flu and she's in good spirits,they can deal with it, considering I'm dropping a damn small fortune,regardless if she's in or not. I hate this system...
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So inflation has gotten has and ahead of wages. So people cant comfortably live off one income. So day care was invented. But day care costs have risen to the point where it almost takes away a persons entire income but you still cant afford to stay home because you need that little bit of income to get by.
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Eh just stick em full of cough syrup and send em anyway?
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Kids get sick even if they don't go to daycare. Our daughter has never stepped foot in daycare and still gets colds as often as any kid her age is expected to get them. I think this idea is really just a convenient scapegoat. Not that the parents are to blame but we all like to have a reason as to why our kid is sick.
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This is partly the reason why I want to keep my nanny for my daughter but know this won’t be good for her immune system and social life.
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This is the only version of this meme that I’ve laughed at. Hahaha
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Welcome to thunderdome!!!
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**One** walking petri dish. Plus I don't have to pay for it. Guess that's a win.
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The real kicker is I only *gave* them one kid.
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Half? Nice...
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Reading this while using a sick day because both of my kids are at home sick. Thanks parents that send their sick kids to daycare!
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You guys are only paying half your paycheck?
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This post makes me feel better about letting my wife be a stay at home mother. Yes we don't have another income, but we're not sick (too often).
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I’m so glad we have it worked out somewhat. I work 5am to whenever I’m done, mom works 6pm-1am and I take nighttime duty and hopefully get more than 5hrs of sleep.
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Thank fucking god we never had to send our 2 kids to daycare. It just worked out between me and my wife and brother in law's job hours that we could watch them 7 days a week. Our oldest is now in Kindergarten and is sick all the time now lmao
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Look at it this way, how much would a baby sitter cost everyday vs daycare. also the things they learn in daycare. I can't really talk tho, we get free daycare since my wife is director of the daycare.
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If you have two retired parents, and your kids are their only grandchildren and they willingly help out and watch them while you’re at work….would you still consider daycare a couple days a week?
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Must be nice to live somewhere where sending two kids to daycare only costs half your paycheck
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I've been doing WFH and basically have been the primary caregiver for the entire three year span of my daughter's life. I cannot even imagine how much it would have cost us to put her in daycare. Let alone the constant sickness. I think she's been sick twice in her life. I know that tsunami is going to come for us, but I'm glad it's not happening when she can't fully explain what's wrong. I mean, I'm at a catastrophic level of exhaustion, pretty sure I understand what it's like to be in Gitmo, but that's a fair trade, right?
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When our kid started daycare he was perpetually sick for 4 months straight, during that 4 month period he managed 1 full week one time before getting sick again, otherwise it was like 1-2 days and then sick again. That said, he's now done with his second year and that year he was like sick twice in total, so it's really good to just get everything over with early :p. Worst sickness so far was covid where he had 41 degrees Celsius fever and still bounced from wall to wall while me and wife had absolutely zero energy. Mother in law had covid the week before us so she took him so we could sleep at least
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My 2.5 year old has been in day care since she was 4 months old, and she gets sick WAY less often than a friend's kid who is not in daycare. I know it's anecdotal, but I think it's better to let immune response do it's thing at daycare...
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Who is this man? I see him sometimes
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My 10 month old has been sick every week since August 29th, 2022. The first day of daycare and the last healthy day for anyone in our house. It’s really exhausting because I just constantly worry about him.
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lol yeah it is a struggle. But I do see she’s having a lot of fun playing with the other kids, even if her interaction is mostly babbling and swatting at their arms, so that is nice.
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God I'm so glad I live in Germany.
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Other parts of the world have expectations that the people they elect to “run society” actually organize beneficial services that everyone needs, like healthcare and childcare. We in the US blow that wonderful economy of scale to shit by allowing anyone who can hang onto a license to run a daycare. But it’s ok, we get 2 weeks of vacation and “freedom”.
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Half your income? Damn. We pay like 160 eur, scales with income.
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OP must be in a super high paying job if two kids in daycare is only half a pay cheque
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I feel personally attacked
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I have a 2 year old who's been in daycare since she was around 4 months. I've been sick more in the past 1.5 years than I was in probably the entirety of the 2010s.
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And yet I still feel like I'm winning the trade somehow.
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Just half? Shit maybe before taxes. $25 an hour is the going rate here in Colorado...
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I pay 200$/month. It's worth it.
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I thought this was about divorce when I first scrolled by
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I'm going through this right now... My son's been coughing and having yellow eye discharge since Monday...daycare won't accept him I've had to take emergency leave on Tuesday, my wife on Wed & today...and it looks like I'm gonna have to take tomorrow off Sigh
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Yep that sounds about right
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I sent my baby to an in-home daycare with a woman whose son I was teaching. It was like dropping him off at an aunt's house, bit the aunt also teaches them a little bit too. I ~~payed~~ paid $45 a day, and there were only 4 other kids. I feel sooooooo fortunate! EDIT you're absolutely right, robot. I have a graduate degree, that's not supposed to slip by!
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Tell me about it bro. Since covid immune systems are weaak
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Anecdotally. My son has been going to daycare every day since he was 1 and is 5 now. While, yeah for the first couple of months he was always sick. Now it is a normal flu/cold season type things. Sick a couple of times a year and not very much in the summer.
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I don’t understand parent that ducking ruin it for literally an entire daycare. If your fuckers are sick stay home!
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I don't get it. Ours was in daycare from 4 mo to the day he was off to school. Bit of extra snot, but that's it. If he got sick, we took care days and got him to the doc. Up to three 'periods' were allowed per six months before the sick days were 'paid' again.
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The issue for me is; why do we have to pay the daycare when our kids are too sick to attend? Considering they got sick from the daycare… There are also degrees to sickness. I take issue with having to keep my kids home (3 in one daycare) when only one of them has symptoms. I literally had to keep them all home for a week because one had a mild runny nose. No other symptoms.
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I swear to god our 8 month old hasn’t been healthy for a full week since before thanksgiving. Whether it’s a sniffle, cough , or full on fever. It’s always something.
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Plus paying for the whole day (7.30 till 6.30), paying during vacations, swap days never being available, sending the kid home at the lightest of fevers because its policy, refusal to give paracetamol because they think they can kill/harm the kid... It's highway robbery! How is it in other countries btw? We pay 4000€ euros a month for 2 kids, 4 days. We get roughly half of that back through the government. Luckily after that not half of our paycheck, but it makes more than a dent!
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All the kids are just sick around this time of year.... Unless they have a temperature, it's fair game to drop the kid off. We are all households where each parent is working full time.
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What symptoms does your kid have that daycare won’t let them attend? Sounds like it’s time to get a new daycare. Unless your kid has an active fever / diarrhea they should be able to attend. Runny nose / cough is no reason to bar them access
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so fucking true. I kept track 2022. 18 respiratory infections from daycare. Roughly one every three weeks
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Can't wait for someone to swoop into this thread and rationalize that it actually makes a lot of sense to keep paying for it blah blah. It's a massive test of one's patience. Edit: and there it is! **There's the Arch.**
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**Your** kid can't go sick because your have a conscience. How do you think your kid got sick...? Other people's kids totally okay to go sick with sniffles. If we can change this mindset no one's kids will be sick.
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I genuinely know someone whose kid started day care in September 2021, in the November of that year they went in 3 days due to illness. 3 days.
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If only everyone kept their sick kid home then this wouldnt happen. Im pretty sure most daycares dont clean that well either! Wait til they catch hands foot and mouth and then give it to you!
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My kids experienced constant fevers and sick constantly after the last round of covid shots. I’m honestly concerned.
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I was about to come and comment something similar - the second column should say: "You receive two perpetually sick kids (for approximately 3 days until you figure out they have a fever and then send them home for a week)"
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We are routinely in the negative from my kid being sick, having to pay for it and my partner not being able to work. It's balls
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Is it actually cheaper than a nanny? My wife and I are super hesitant with daycare since she freelances to supplement my income. It’s why she’s worried about going back to full time. Her part time pull is probably what we’d take home.
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i really do find all the nickel and dime shit after the fact hilarious. they sent out christmas wish lists for fucks sake... like we probably would have gotten our teachers a gift card or something but that was just weird. then Jan 15th in comes the 'spring supply fee' for another $500 on top of dues...lol.
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They’re a set of wooden blocks. Why do they cost $60?!?
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I have hand foot mouth right now, and I have never been this sick before. Thankfully my son had a mild case.
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What the fuck is impetigo? An imp + wendigo hybrid?
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We had hand foot and mouth in September and I got it. Holy cow that sucked. I can't remember a time I've felt worse she I've had covid 3 times
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We just got through the stomach flu.
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We are in the last category. One of if not the most expensive centers in the area. Just today they fed my son egg (he’s allergic) for the third time in 6 months and the second time in 1 week! To say i was absolutely livid when I had to go get him at 8:30 this morning is an understatement. Especially since after last week they had “special” training on allergies and made “drastic” changes. When they pitched those gain today I told them it was bullshit because it took less than a week to happen again. The last place we were at before that was slightly cheaper had a director who vocally stated in public that “blacks couldn’t get Covid.”
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The problem with pay is the ratio of kids to adults has to be limited (for good reason). At 5:1, the average worker could make a sort of decent wage here. But then there are extra employees, administration, utilities, supplies, PTO, health insurance, etc. So the average pay comes out sucking ass, and the only way to improve it (without government funding) is to double the cost
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This is me right now. Both kids out from daycare (because our oldest hit 100.3, apparently, which I couldn't replicate, and they have a sibling policy where if one is out sick, both have to be out), and I'm absolutely trashed with whatever they have. It sucks so much. I'm just trying to use it as a lesson to cough into ones arm and don't stick things in your mouth that aren't food.
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God I’m sick of that part. I’m laying here struggling to even swallow from the latest bug wishing we could make it more than a week without getting sick.
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Plus my kid is also contributing half his paycheck.
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I must be lucky. Our daycare’s rule is: fever. If they have a fever, no go. Anything else… I think they recognize that little ones in daycare will chronically have sniffles and minor coughs
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>Welcome to our center! Of course after a years long waitlist
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You’re getting ripped off. So many daycares have used covid to basically rip parents off and require kids to stay home with even the most minor symptoms. Find a new daycare if you can. They’re not all this way.
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Tbf I only pay ~100 euros/month out of pocket, but I'm thankfully not living in the US. They're both perpetually sick, though.
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Silly people with just one kid
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For real.
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Maybe before taxes. It comes out to about 20-25 an hour here in Colorado.
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That’s before tax.
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I never add to anything the school asks for extra. We WILL make sure the teachers get a decent holiday gifts. Depending on responsibility we do like $50-$100 per teacher. It’s not our fault, but they’re paid crap. And with all they do it’s unreasonable (imo) for us to not add when we can if it’s directly to their wallets. If possible. But no, I’m not paying for a mug. I can just buy a mug and paint with them!
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My second child will be here this summer. It will then feel like three mortgages between the actual mortgage, Pre-K, and daycare. When both kids hit public school, I'm going to feel rich.