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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:10:50.360 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So let's take a small pause here. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:10:51.360 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | First of all, discourse. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:10:54.040 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Can you talk about, can you lay out the land | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:10:55.280 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | of all the different ways you can have communities? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:10:59.000 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So there's Stack Overflow that you've built. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:01.800 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | There's discourse. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:03.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So Stack Overflow is kind of like a Wiki, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:05.200 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Wikipedia you talk about. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:07.200 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And it's a very specific scalpel, very focused. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:09.120 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So what is the purpose of discourse | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:11.880 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | and maybe contrast that with Facebook? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:13.440 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | First of all, say, what is discourse? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:16.000 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Yeah. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:17.960 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Start from the beginning. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:18.800 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Well, let me start from the very beginning. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:19.640 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So Stack Overflow is a very structured | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:20.480 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Wiki style Q and A for programmers, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:21.920 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And that was the problem we first worked on. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:24.600 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And when we started, we thought it was discussions | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:26.680 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | because we looked at like programming forums | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:28.840 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | and other things, but we quickly realized | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:30.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | we were doing Q and A, which is a very narrow subset | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:32.640 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | of human communication, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:35.400 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Sorry, so when you started Stack Overflow, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:36.880 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | you thought you didn't even know the Q and A. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:38.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Not really. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:41.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | You didn't know it would be Q and A. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:42.600 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Well, we didn't know. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:43.440 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | We had an idea of like, okay, these are things | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:44.280 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | that we see working online. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:45.720 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | We had a goal, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:46.840 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Our goal was there was this site, Experts Exchange, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:47.680 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | with a very unfortunate name. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:50.960 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Thank you for killing that site. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:52.560 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Yeah, I know, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:53.800 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Like a lot of people don't remember it anymore, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:54.680 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | which is great. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:56.400 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Like that's the measure of success | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:57.240 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | when people don't remember the thing | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:58.080 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | that you were trying to replace, then you've totally won. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:11:59.280 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So it was a place to get answers to programming questions, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:02.600 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | but it wasn't clear if it was like focused Q and A, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:05.600 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | if it was a discussion. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:07.440 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | There were plenty of programming forums. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:08.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So we weren't really sure. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:10.320 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | We were like, okay, we'll take aspects of dig and Reddit, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:11.320 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | like voting were very important. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:13.440 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Reordering answers based on votes. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:15.720 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Wiki style stuff of like being able to edit posts, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:17.400 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | not just your posts, but other people's posts | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:19.560 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | to make them better and keep them more up to date. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:21.240 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Ownership of blogging of like, okay, this is me. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:23.840 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | I'm saying this in my voice, this is the stuff that I know. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:26.160 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And your reputation accrues to you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:29.800 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | and it's peer recognition. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:33.360 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So you asked earlier, like what motivates programmers? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:34.880 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | I think peer recognition motivates them a lot. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:37.040 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | That was one of the key insights of Stack Overflow | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:40.040 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | was like recognition from your peers is why things get done. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:41.840 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Not necessarily money, not necessarily your boss, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:44.960 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | but like your peers saying, wow, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:46.400 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | this person really knows their stuff, has a lot of value. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:47.840 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So the reputation system came from that. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:50.360 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So we were sort of Frankensteining a bunch of stuff together | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:53.280 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | in Stack Overflow, like stuff we had seen working | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:56.320 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | and we knew worked and that became Stack Overflow. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:12:58.680 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Over time, we realized it wasn't really discussion. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:04.400 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | It was very focused questions and answers. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:06.520 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | There wasn't a lot of room on the page | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:08.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | for let me talk about this tangential thing. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:10.040 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | It was more like, okay, is it answering the question? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:12.520 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Is it clarifying the question? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:14.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Or could it be an alternative answer to the same question? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:16.160 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Because there's usually more than one way to do it | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:18.720 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | in programming, there's like say five to 10 ways. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:20.560 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And one of the patterns we got into early on | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:22.640 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | with Stack Overflow was there were questions | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:24.400 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | where there would be like hundreds of answers. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:26.440 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And we're like, wow, how can there be a programming question | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:28.440 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | with 500, 200, 500 answers? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:31.800 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And we looked at those and we realized | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:34.720 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | those were not really questions in the traditional sense. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:36.160 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | They were discussions. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:38.840 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | It was stuff that we allowed early on | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:39.800 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | that we eventually decided wasn't allowed such as | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:42.280 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | what's your favorite programming food? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:44.640 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | What's the funniest programming cartoon you've seen? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:46.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And we had to sort of backfill a bunch of rules | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:49.560 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | about like, why isn't this allowed? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:51.320 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Such as, is this a real problem you're facing? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:53.080 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Like nobody goes to work and says, wow, I can't work | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:55.160 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | cause I don't know what the funniest programming cartoon is. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:57.200 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So sorry, can't compile this code now, right? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:13:59.080 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | It's not a real problem you're facing in your job. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:14:02.040 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | So that was run rule. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:14:04.600 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | And the second, like, what can you really learn from that? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:14:05.440 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | It's like what I call accidental learning | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:14:07.320 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | or Reddit style learning. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:14:08.760 |
Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7 | Where you're just like, oh, I'll just browse some things | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0007-large.html#00:14:10.200 |
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