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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
But you could.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
I mean, if you look back at the early days of computing,
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there were chiclet keyboards, which are awful.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
But what's a chiclet keyboard?
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
Oh, god.
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OK, well, it's just like thin rubber membranes.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
Oh, the rubber ones, oh, no.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
Super bad, right?
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
So it's a fetish item.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
All that really says is, look, I care really about keyboards
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because the keyboard is the primary method of communication
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with the computer.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
So it's just like having a nice mic for this podcast.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
You want a nice keyboard, right?
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
Because it has a very tactile feel.
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I can tell exactly when I press the key.
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I get that little click.
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So, oh, and it feels good.
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And it's also kind of a fetish item.
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It's like, wow, I care enough about programming
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that I care about the tool, the primary tool,
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that I use to communicate with the computer,
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make sure it's as good as it feels good to use for me.
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And I can be very productive with it.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
So to be honest, it's a little bit of a fetish item,
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but a good one.
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It indicates that you're serious.
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It indicates you're interested.
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It indicates that you care about the fundamentals.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
Because you know what makes you a good programmer?
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
Being able to type really fast, right?
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
This is true, right?
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
So a core skill is just being able to type fast enough
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to get your ideas out of your head into the code base.
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So just practicing your typing can make you
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a better programmer.
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It is also something that makes you,
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well, makes you enjoy typing, correct?
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The actual act, something about the process.
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Like I play piano.
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It's tactile.
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There's a tactile feel that ultimately feeds the passion,
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makes you happy.
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Right.
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No, totally.
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That's it.
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I mean, and it's funny because artisanal keyboards have
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exploded.
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Like Massdrop has gone ballistic with this stuff.
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There's probably like 500 keyboard projects
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on Massdrop alone.
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And there's some other guy I follow on Twitter.
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I used to write for the site The Tech Report way
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back in the day.
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And he's like, every week he's just
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posting what I call keyboard porn of just cool keyboards.
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Like, oh my god, those look really cool, right?
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It's like, how many keyboards does this guy have, right?
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It's kind of like me with yo yos.
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How many yo yos do you have?
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How many do you need?
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
Well, technically one, but I like a lot.
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I don't know why.
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So same thing with keyboards.
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So yeah, they're awesome.
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Like, I highly recommend anybody that
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doesn't have a mechanical to research it, look into it,
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and see what you like.
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And it's ultimately a fetish item.
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But I think these sort of items, these religious artifacts
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that we have, are part of what make us human.
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Like, that part's important, right?
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It's kind of what makes life worth living.
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Yeah.
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It's not necessary in the strictest sense,
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but ain't nothing necessary if you think about it, right?
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Like, so yeah, why not?
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So sure.
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Jeff Atwood: Stack Overflow and Coding Horror | Lex Fridman Podcast #7
Jeff, thank you so much for talking today.
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Yeah, you're welcome.
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Thanks for having me.
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Eric Schmidt: Google | Lex Fridman Podcast #8
The following is a conversation with Eric Schmidt.
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He was the CEO of Google for 10 years
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and a chairman for six more,
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guiding the company through an incredible period of growth
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and a series of world changing innovations.
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He is one of the most impactful leaders
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in the era of the internet and the powerful voice
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for the promise of technology in our society.
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It was truly an honor to speak with him
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as part of the MIT course
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on artificial general intelligence
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and the artificial intelligence podcast.
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And now here's my conversation with Eric Schmidt.
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What was the first moment
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when you fell in love with technology?
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I grew up in the 1960s as a boy
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where every boy wanted to be an astronaut
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and part of the space program.
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So like everyone else of my age,
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