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Daniel Negreanu: Poker | Lex Fridman Podcast #324
because he really knew what he was doing with it.
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In tournament or cash games?
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It was tournaments, yeah.
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He was crushing tournaments.
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He was going against the norm
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in terms of what is like, you know,
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this is what you should do as a poker player in this spot.
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He wasn't doing that.
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He was doing what he thought was best
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and he was doing things outside the norm
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that again, in a vacuum, you could look at that
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and you go, that's incorrect.
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That he should not do.
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That is a clear cut mistake.
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Even, you know, the solvers or the computers
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or game theory would say, this is wrong what he's doing.
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But it's not wrong if he's doing it in a way
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that he's exploiting other players tendencies.
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So for example, with him,
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say he's playing far too aggressively, okay?
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That's not good unless your opponents
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are playing way too passively.
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So if your opponents are playing passively,
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the answer is to be more aggressive with them.
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And that's, I think one of the, you know,
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biggest advantages he had was he was willing to do that.
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So bet huge, big, big pots bluffing.
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Huge.
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So in a spot where somebody would make it a thousand,
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he's making it 22,000.
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Like what?
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What is this?
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This makes no sense.
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And then people kind of know he has nothing,
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but they're too afraid to call him on it.
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Well, and then sometimes what happens is
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this is where the leveling comes in.
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You're like, man, this guy's crazy.
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He's bluffing like nuts.
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Then he bets the 22,000 and you say,
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ah, I'm taking my stand.
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I call, and then he shows you like, you know,
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four of a kind or something like that.
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So he gets people out of their comfort zone.
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And I really enjoy watching him play.
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He's probably my favorite player to watch today.
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Watching a guy like that,
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what aspect of his play have you been able
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to incorporate into your own?
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Like, what do you learn from that?
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Cause you're constantly learning,
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you're constantly adjusting.
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Yeah.
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Well, no, and I love it.
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And as I said, so I think a lot of players
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sort of come to the same conclusions about
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this is how you play the spot, but he doesn't.
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And I love watching and thinking in terms of like,
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why he's doing this.
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And one specific thing, for example,
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is he's willing to really go for it.
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So in a spot where let's say he bets 2000,
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he knows he'll get you to call 2000, right?
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But he wants it all.
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He wants it all.
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So he says, you know what?
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I'll give up the 2000 that's guaranteed
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and I'll bet 50,000.
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And maybe if you call that now, you know,
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so listen, you lose the 2007, eight times,
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but if I get called for the 50 just once,
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you know, I'm profiting from that.
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And it also sets the, you know, the template for you
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to really sort of be a player
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that people are afraid to play against.
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He knocked me out in a tournament very early on
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in a huge event.
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And he had, he was so far ahead.
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He was one step ahead of my thought process in hand.
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And he did something that makes no sense whatsoever.
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I looked it up on the computer.
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Huge mistake, if you will, but not a mistake
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because he was taking advantage of my tendency.
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Do you remember the cars?
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Is there an example?
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I remember the whole thing.
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Yeah.
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I remember it like it was yesterday.
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Can you take it like through an example hand
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that really demonstrates it?
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So I'll explain the hand here.
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So I'm on the button and I have ace king,
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which is a very good hand.
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And I raise and he calls from the big blind.
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The flop is nine, seven, five.
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So I have nothing really here.
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He checks, I check behind.
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The turn card's an ace.
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He checks, I bet half the pot.
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There were 6,000 there, I bet 3,000, okay?
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