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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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you may want to get good at that.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:20.880
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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But that's not necessarily what I mean by creativity.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:22.960
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Is it important on that complex goals
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:26.280
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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where the sea is rising for there
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:29.640
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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to be something creative?
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:31.600
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Or am I being very human centric and thinking creativity
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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somehow special relative to intelligence?
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:37.400
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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My hunch is that we should think of creativity simply
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:41.880
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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as an aspect of intelligence.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:47.240
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And we have to be very careful with human vanity.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:50.760
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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We have this tendency to very often want
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:57.840
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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to say, as soon as machines can do something,
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:37:59.520
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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we try to diminish it and say, oh, but that's
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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not real intelligence.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Isn't it creative or this or that?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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The other thing, if we ask ourselves
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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to write down a definition of what we actually mean
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:12.200
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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by being creative, what we mean by Andrew Wiles, what he did
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:14.320
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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there, for example, don't we often mean that someone takes
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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a very unexpected leap?
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:21.880
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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It's not like taking 573 and multiplying it
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:26.000
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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by 224 by just a step of straightforward cookbook
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:29.680
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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like rules, right?
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:33.840
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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You can maybe make a connection between two things
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:36.520
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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that people had never thought was connected or something
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:39.680
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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like that.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:42.640
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I think this is an aspect of intelligence.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:44.480
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And this is actually one of the most important aspects of it.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:47.720
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Maybe the reason we humans tend to be better at it
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:53.000
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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than traditional computers is because it's
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:55.520
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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something that comes more naturally if you're
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:57.840
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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a neural network than if you're a traditional logic gate
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:38:59.640
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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based computer machine.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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We physically have all these connections.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:05.720
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And you activate here, activate here, activate here.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:08.640
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Bing.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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My hunch is that if we ever build a machine where you could
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:16.560
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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just give it the task, hey, you say, hey, I just realized
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:21.040
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I want to travel around the world instead this month.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:29.200
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Can you teach my AGI course for me?
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:32.320
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And it's like, OK, I'll do it.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:34.600
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And it does everything that you would have done
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:35.960
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and improvises and stuff.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:37.920
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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That would, in my mind, involve a lot of creativity.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:39.760
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Yeah, so it's actually a beautiful way to put it.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:43.360
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I think we do try to grasp at the definition of intelligence
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:45.680
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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is everything we don't understand how to build.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:52.640
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So we as humans try to find things
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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that we have and machines don't have.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:39:59.360
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And maybe creativity is just one of the things, one
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:01.240
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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of the words we use to describe that.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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That's a really interesting way to put it.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:05.480
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I don't think we need to be that defensive.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:07.200
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I don't think anything good comes out of saying,
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:09.520
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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well, we're somehow special, you know?
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:11.560
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Contrary wise, there are many examples in history
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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of where trying to pretend that we're somehow superior
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:21.040
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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to all other intelligent beings has led to pretty bad results,
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:27.840
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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right?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Nazi Germany, they said that they were somehow superior
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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to other people.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Today, we still do a lot of cruelty to animals
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:40.080
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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by saying that we're so superior somehow,
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and they can't feel pain.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Slavery was justified by the same kind
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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of just really weak arguments.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And I don't think if we actually go ahead and build
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:40:52.200
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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artificial general intelligence, it
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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can do things better than us, I don't
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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think we should try to found our self worth on some sort
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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of bogus claims of superiority in terms
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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of our intelligence.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I think we should instead find our calling
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and the meaning of life from the experiences that we have.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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I can have very meaningful experiences
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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even if there are other people who are smarter than me.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:41:28.720
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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When I go to a faculty meeting here,
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and we talk about something, and then I certainly realize,
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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oh, boy, he has an old prize, he has an old prize,
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:41:36.520
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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he has an old prize, I don't have one.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:41:39.080
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Does that make me enjoy life any less
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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or enjoy talking to those people less?
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Of course not.
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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And the contrary, I feel very honored and privileged
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:41:49.560
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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to get to interact with other very intelligent beings that
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:41:54.160
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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are better than me at a lot of stuff.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:41:58.760
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So I don't think there's any reason why
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:00.680
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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we can't have the same approach with intelligent machines.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:02.840
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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That's a really interesting.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:06.080
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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So people don't often think about that.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:07.320
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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They think about when there's going,
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:08.920
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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if there's machines that are more intelligent,
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:10.600
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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you naturally think that that's not
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:13.320
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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going to be a beneficial type of intelligence.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:15.080
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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You don't realize it could be like peers with Nobel prizes
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:19.080
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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that would be just fun to talk with,
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:23.000
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and they might be clever about certain topics,
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:25.120
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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and you can have fun having a few drinks with them.
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:27.560
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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Well, also, another example we can all
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:32.240
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Max Tegmark: Life 3.0 | Lex Fridman Podcast #1
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relate to of why it doesn't have to be a terrible thing
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https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0001-large.html#00:42:35.880
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