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Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Somebody invented electricity in the ocean. When did this get invented? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:13.280 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Yeah. So, I mean, it is incredible. The guy who discovered gap junctions, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:17.440 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Werner Loewenstein, I visited him. He was really old. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:22.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | A human being? | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:25.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | He discovered them. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:26.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Because who really discovered them lived probably four billion years ago. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:27.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Good point. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:32.480 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | So you give credit where credit is due, I'm just saying. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:32.880 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | He rediscovered gap junctions. But when I visited him in Woods Hole, maybe 20 years ago now, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:35.600 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | he told me that he was writing, and unfortunately, he passed away, and I think this book never got | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:43.200 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | written. He was writing a book on gap junctions and consciousness. And I think it would have been | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:47.840 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | an incredible book, because gap junctions are magic. I'll explain why in a minute. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:52.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | What happens is that, just imagine, the thing about both these ion channels and these gap | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:56:57.920 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | junctions is that many of them are themselves voltage sensitive. So that's a voltage sensitive | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:02.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | current conductance. That's a transistor. And as soon as you've invented one, immediately, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:08.880 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | you now get access to, from this platonic space of mathematical truths, you get access to all of the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:13.600 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | cool things that transistors do. So now, when you have a network of cells, not only do they talk to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:20.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | each other, but they can send messages to each other, and the differences of voltage can propagate. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:26.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Now, to neuroscientists, this is old hat, because you see this in the brain, right? This action | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:30.160 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | potentials, the electricity. They have these awesome movies where you can take a zebra, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:34.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | like a transparent animal, like a zebrafish, and you can literally look down, and you can see all | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:40.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | the firings as the fish is making decisions about what to eat and things like this. It's amazing. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:45.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Well, your whole body is doing that all the time, just much slower. So there are very few things | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:49.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | that neurons do that all the cells in your body don't do. They all do very similar things, just | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:54.160 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | on a much slower timescale. And whereas your brain is thinking about how to solve problems in | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:57:59.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | three dimensional space, the cells in an embryo are thinking about how to solve problems in | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:04.320 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | anatomical space. They're trying to have memories like, hey, how many fingers are we supposed to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:08.880 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | have? Well, how many do we have now? What do we do to get from here to there? That's the kind of | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:12.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | problems they're thinking about. And the reason that gap junctions are magic is, imagine, right, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:15.840 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | from the earliest time. Here are two cells. This cell, how can they communicate? Well, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:20.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | the simple version is this cell could send a chemical signal, it floats over, and it hits | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:29.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | a receptor on this cell, right? Because it comes from outside, this cell can very easily tell that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:34.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | that came from outside. Whatever information is coming, that's not my information. That information | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:39.200 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | is coming from the outside. So I can trust it, I can ignore it, I can do various things with it, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:44.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I can do various things with it, whatever, but I know it comes from the outside. Now imagine | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:48.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | instead that you have two cells with a gap junction between them. Something happens, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:52.160 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | let's say this cell gets poked, there's a calcium spike, the calcium spike or whatever small | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:55.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | molecule signal propagates through the gap junction to this cell. There's no ownership | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:58:59.760 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | metadata on that signal. This cell does not know now that it came from outside because it looks | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:04.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | exactly like its own memories would have looked like of whatever had happened, right? So gap | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:10.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | junctions to some extent wipe ownership information on data, which means that if I can't, if you and | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:15.200 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | I are sharing memories and we can't quite tell who the memories belong to, that's the beginning of a | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:21.440 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | mind melt. That's the beginning of a scale up of cognition from here's me and here's you to no, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:26.320 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | now there's just us. So they enforce a collective intelligence gap junctions. That's right. It | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:31.840 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | helps. It's the beginning. It's not the whole story by any means, but it's the start. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:36.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Where's state stored of the system? Is it in part in the gap junctions themselves? Is it in the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:39.680 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | cells? There are many, many layers to this as always in biology. So there are chemical networks. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:48.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | So for example, gene regulatory networks, right? Which, or basically any kind of chemical pathway | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#00:59:55.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | where different chemicals activate and repress each other, they can store memories. So in a | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:00.320 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | dynamical system sense, they can store memories. They can get into stable states that are hard to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:04.480 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | pull them out of. So that becomes, once they get in, that's a memory, a permanent memory or a | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:09.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | semi permanent memory of something that's happened. There are cytoskeletal structures that are | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:13.200 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | physically, they store memories in physical configuration. There are electrical memories | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:17.760 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | like flip flops where there is no physical. So if you look, I showed my students this example | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:24.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | as a flip flop. And the reason that it stores a zero one is not because some piece of the hardware | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:30.560 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | moved. It's because there's a cycling of the current in one side of the thing. If I come over | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:37.920 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | and I hold the other side to a high voltage for a brief period of time, it flips over and now it's | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:42.880 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | here. But none of the hardware moved. The information is in a stable dynamical sense. And | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:50.080 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | if you were to x ray the thing, you couldn't tell me if it was zero or one, because all you would | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:54.880 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | see is where the hardware is. You wouldn't see the energetic state of the system. So there are | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:00:58.560 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | bioelectrical states that are held in that exact way, like volatile ram basically, like in the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:03.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | electrical state. It's very akin to the different ways that memory is stored in a computer. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:09.680 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | So there's ram, there's hard drive. You can make that mapping, right? So I think the interesting | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:15.840 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | thing is that based on the biology, we can have a more sophisticated, you know, I think we can | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:21.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | revise some of our computer engineering methods because there are some interesting things that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:26.960 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | biology we haven't done yet. But that mapping is not bad. I mean, I think it works in many ways. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:32.560 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | Yeah, I wonder because I mean, the way we build computers at the root of computer science is the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:38.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | idea of proof of correctness. We program things to be perfect, reliable. You know, this idea of | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:43.280 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | resilience and robustness to unknown conditions is not as important. So that's what biology is really | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:52.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | good at. So I don't know what kind of systems. I don't know how we go from a computer to a | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:01:58.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | biological system in the future. Yeah, I think that, you know, the thing about biology is all | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:04.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | about making really important decisions really quickly on very limited information. I mean, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:10.480 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | that's what biology is all about. You have to act, you have to act now. The stakes are very high, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:15.280 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | and you don't know most of what you need to know to be perfect. And so there's not even an attempt | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:19.600 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | to be perfect or to get it right in any sense. There are just things like active inference, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:24.080 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | minimize surprise, optimize some efficiency and some things like this that guides the whole | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:29.920 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | business. I mentioned too offline that somebody who's a fan of your work is Andre Kapathy. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:37.120 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | And he's, amongst many things, also writes occasionally a great blog. He came up with | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:44.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | this idea, I don't know if he coined the term, but of software 2.0, where the programming is | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:02:52.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | done in the space of configuring these artificial neural networks. Is there some sense in which that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:03:00.720 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | would be the future of programming for us humans, where we're less doing like Python like programming | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:03:08.240 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | and more... How would that look like? But basically doing the hyperparameters of something | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:03:16.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | akin to a biological system and watching it go and adjusting it and creating some kind of feedback | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:03:25.680 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | loop within the system so it corrects itself. And then we watch it over time accomplish the goals | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:03:33.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | we want it to accomplish. Is that kind of the dream of the dogs that you described in the Nature | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:03:40.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | paper? Yeah. I mean, that's what you just painted is a very good description of our efforts at | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:03:46.880 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | regenerative medicine as a kind of somatic psychiatry. So the idea is that you're not trying | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:03:54.960 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | to micromanage. I mean, think about the limitations of a lot of the medicines today. We try to | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:01.040 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | interact down at the level of pathways. So we're trying to micromanage it. What's the problem? Well, | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:07.920 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | one problem is that for almost every medicine other than antibiotics, once you stop it, the | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:14.560 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | problem comes right back. You haven't fixed anything. You were addressing symptoms. You | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:20.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | weren't actually curing anything, again, except for antibiotics. That's one problem. The other | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:23.680 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | problem is you have massive amount of side effects because you were trying to interact at the lowest | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:28.560 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | level. It's like, I'm going to try to program this computer by changing the melting point of | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:33.600 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | copper. Maybe you can do things that way, but my God, it's hard to program at the hardware level. | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:40.400 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | So what I think we're starting to understand is that, and by the way, this goes back to what you | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:46.640 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | were saying before about that we could have access to our internal state. So people who practice that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:53.360 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | kind of stuff, so yoga and biofeedback and those, those are all the people that uniformly will say | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:04:58.800 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | things like, well, the body has an intelligence and this and that. Those two sets overlap perfectly | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:05:04.000 |
Michael Levin: Biology, Life, Aliens, Evolution, Embryogenesis & Xenobots | Lex Fridman Podcast #325 | because that's exactly right. Because once you start thinking about it that way, you realize that | https://karpathy.ai/lexicap/0325-large.html#01:05:08.480 |
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