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And Michael Meyers, we appreciate your time today.	and michael meyers we appreciate your time	And Michael Meyers we appreciate; your time	and michael meyers, we appreciate your time today.
Well, thank you.	well thank	Well, thank	well, thank you.
Michael Meyers, executive director of the New York Civil Rights Coalition. His op-ed, "Obama Blew It" appeared in today's edition of the Los Angeles Times. And he joined us from NPR's bureau in New York. Let's see if we can get another caller on the line. This is Mike(ph). Mike with us from Boston in Massachusetts.	michael meyers executive director of the new york civil rights. coalition his op-ed "obama blew, it" appeared in today's edition of the los angeles times and, he joined, us from npr's bureau in new york let's see if we can get another caller on the line this is mike(ph). mike with us from boston in	Michael Meyers executive director of the New York Civil Rights Coalition His, op-ed "Obama Blew It" appeared in today's edition of the Los Angeles, Times And he joined us. from NPR's bureau in New York Let's see; if. we can get another caller on the line This is Mike(ph). Mike with us from Boston in	michael meyers, executive director of the new york civil rights coalition. his op-ed, "obama blew it" appeared in today's edition of the los angeles times. and he joined us from npr's bureau in new york. let's see if we can get another caller on the line. this is mike(ph). mike with us from boston in massachusetts.
And so there's sort of a diversity of some of the opinion, but at the same time, I think, one major issue is really about a solidarity and how much are we willing to sort of be willing to listen to one another's experiences. I mean, I remember one - I have two really good friends from North Carolina and they're Caucasi...	and so there's sort of a diversity of some of the opinion but at the same time i think one major issue is. really about a, solidarity and how much are we willing, to sort of be; willing to, listen to one another's experiences i mean i remember one - i have two really good friends from north carolina and, they're caucas...	And so there's sort of a diversity of some of the opinion but at the same time I think one major issue is really. about a solidarity and how much are we willing to sort. of be willing to. listen to one another's, experiences I mean I remember one - I have two really good friends from North Carolina and they're Caucasia...	and so there's sort of a diversity of some of the opinion, but at the same time, i think, one major issue is really about a solidarity and how much are we willing to sort of be willing to listen to one another's experiences. i mean, i remember one - i have two really good friends from north carolina and they're caucasi...
I wonder when Americans do talk about race on those occasions, do you feel that they're talking just about blacks and whites, and not so much about Asians and Hispanics?	i, wonder when americans do talk about race on those occasions do you feel that they're talking just about, blacks and whites and not so much about asians and	I wonder when Americans do talk about race on those occasions do you feel that they're talking just about blacks, and whites and not so much about Asians and	i wonder when americans do talk about race on those occasions, do you feel that they're talking just about blacks and whites, and not so much about asians and hispanics?
Oh, yeah, especially for Asian, I think, even for Asian, there's - that the term of professional foreigners continue to come up for us. I remember multiple times in either business functions or social functions when I meet Caucasian people and they will immediately say hello, you know, I've been to China or, you know, ...	oh yeah especially for asian i think even for asian there's - that the term of professional foreigners continue to come up for us i remember multiple times in either business functions or, social functions when i meet caucasian people and they, will immediately say hello you know i've been to china or you know or somet...	Oh yeah especially for, Asian. I think even for Asian there's - that the term of professional foreigners continue, to come up. for us I remember multiple times in either business functions or social. functions when I meet Caucasian people and. they will immediately say hello you know, I've been to China or you know or ...	oh, yeah, especially for asian, i think, even for asian, there's - that the term of professional foreigners continue to come up for us. i remember multiple times in either business functions or social functions when i meet caucasian people and they will immediately say hello, you know, i've been to china or, you know, ...
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You know, I grew up in the U.S. and - or they would make some assumptions. And I think that largely is result of the fact that people are uncomfortable talking about race issue, uncomfortable to talk about culture issues. So, when they do get into those situations, they don't really know how to start and they - convers...	you, know i grew up in. the u.s and - or they would make some assumptions and i think that largely is result of the fact, that. people are uncomfortable talking about race issue uncomfortable to talk about culture issues so when they do get into those situations they don't really know how to start and they - conversati...	You. know I grew up in the U.S and - or they would make some assumptions And, I think that largely is. result of the fact that people are uncomfortable talking about race issue uncomfortable to talk about culture issues, So. when they do get into those. situations they don't really know how to start; and they - convers...	you know, i grew up in the u.s. and - or they would make some assumptions. and i think that largely is result of the fact that people are uncomfortable talking about race issue, uncomfortable to talk about culture issues. so, when they do get into those situations, they don't really know how to start and they - convers...
Yes, indeed. Mike, thanks for the call.	yes indeed mike thanks for the	Yes indeed Mike thanks. for the	yes, indeed. mike, thanks for the call.
Thank you.	thank	Thank	thank you.
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Joining us now is Gustavo Arellano. He's the writer of the Ask a Mexican column for the Orange County Weekly and author of the book "Ask a Mexican". He joins us today from member station KPCC in Pasadena, California.	joining us now is gustavo arellano he's the; writer of the ask a mexican column for the orange county weekly. and author of. the book "ask a mexican". he joins us today from. member station; kpcc in pasadena	Joining us now is Gustavo Arellano He's the writer of the Ask a Mexican column for the Orange County Weekly and author of the book "Ask a Mexican". He joins us today. from member station KPCC in Pasadena	joining us now is gustavo arellano. he's the writer of the ask a mexican column for the orange county weekly and author of the book "ask a mexican". he joins us today from member station kpcc in pasadena, california.
And, nice to have you on TALK OF THE NATION.	and nice to have you on talk. of the	And nice to have, you on TALK OF. THE	and, nice to have you on talk of the nation.
Hola, Neal.	hola	Hola.	hola, neal.
And I know that your column takes what - well, some people might take as offensive or insulting questions and responds to, at least, to begin with humor. Do you find that an effective approach?	and i know that your. column takes what - well some people might take as offensive or insulting questions and responds to at least to; begin with humor do you find that an effective	And. I know that your column takes what - well some people might take as offensive or insulting questions and responds to at least to begin with humor Do you find that an effective	and i know that your column takes what - well, some people might take as offensive or insulting questions and responds to, at least, to begin with humor. do you find that an effective approach?
It's been very affective. I've been doing the column now for about three years. And many people e-mail me and love the fact that I do use satire to debunk so many stereotypes that people have - in my case specifically about Mexicans, not Latinos, specifically Mexicans, not other groups and so forth. And I have found it...	it's been very affective i've been. doing, the column now for about three years. and many people. e-mail me and love the fact, that i do use satire to debunk so many, stereotypes that people have - in my case. specifically about mexicans not latinos specifically mexicans. not other groups. and so forth and i have. foun...	It's, been very affective I've been, doing the column now for about three years And many people e-mail. me and love, the fact that I do use satire to debunk so many stereotypes that people have - in my case, specifically about Mexicans not Latinos specifically Mexicans not other groups and so forth And I have found it ...	it's been very affective. i've been doing the column now for about three years. and many people e-mail me and love the fact that i do use satire to debunk so many stereotypes that people have - in my case specifically about mexicans, not latinos, specifically mexicans, not other groups and so forth. and i have found it...
Yeah, and - but nevertheless, does - is humor affective, do you think?	yeah and - but nevertheless does - is humor affective do you	Yeah and - but nevertheless does - is humor affective do you	yeah, and - but nevertheless, does - is humor affective, do you think?
Again, absolutely. I could tell you anecdotes where people say hey, because of the humor that you use now, I could go back at people. And when they criticize me or try to stereotype me, I could just hit them back with the debunking that you showed them to be. I don't have empirical evidence that could say that but just...	again absolutely i could tell you anecdotes where people say hey because of the humor that you use now i could go back at people and when they criticize me or try to stereotype; me i could just hit them back with the debunking that you showed them to be i don't have empirical evidence that could say that but just from ...	Again absolutely I could tell you anecdotes where people say hey because of the humor that you use now I could. go back at people And when they criticize me or; try to stereotype me I could just hit them back with, the debunking, that you; showed them to be I, don't have empirical evidence that could say that but just ...	again, absolutely. i could tell you anecdotes where people say hey, because of the humor that you use now, i could go back at people. and when they criticize me or try to stereotype me, i could just hit them back with the debunking that you showed them to be. i don't have empirical evidence that could say that but just...
And just going back to that conversation we had with Mike, the caller from Boston a moment ago, is this conversation, when America does talk about race sometimes go right past Hispanics and Asians and other people or just to focus on African-Americans and Caucasians?	and just going back to that conversation; we had with mike, the caller from boston a moment ago is this conversation when america does talk about race sometimes go right past hispanics and asians and other people or; just to focus; on african-americans and	And just going back to that conversation we had with Mike the caller, from Boston a, moment ago is this conversation when America does talk about race sometimes go right past Hispanics and Asians and. other people or just to focus on African-Americans and	and just going back to that conversation we had with mike, the caller from boston a moment ago, is this conversation, when america does talk about race sometimes go right past hispanics and asians and other people or just to focus on african-americans and caucasians?
I think that's how it's historically been but, really, in the past 10 to 15 years when illegal immigration has been such a hot topic in this country. Now, you have the - or the topic of Hispanics or specifically Mexicans going into the dialogue about race. And down in the southwest United States, of course, that's been...	i think that's how it's historically, been but really in the past 10 to 15 years when illegal immigration has been; such a hot topic in this country now you have the, - or the topic of hispanics or specifically mexicans going. into the, dialogue about; race and down in, the southwest united states of course that's been...	I think that's how it's historically been but really in the past 10 to 15 years when illegal immigration has been such a, hot topic in this country. Now you. have the; - or the topic of Hispanics or specifically Mexicans going, into. the dialogue. about race And down in the southwest United States of, course that's bee...	i think that's how it's historically been but, really, in the past 10 to 15 years when illegal immigration has been such a hot topic in this country. now, you have the - or the topic of hispanics or specifically mexicans going into the dialogue about race. and down in the southwest united states, of course, that's been...
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Well, oh, no, in that case, I'll go back to the Spanish Armada. We could go - actually, my theory is the reason why Mexicans will always remain a perpetual other is because as the, I think, he's a sociologist or historian, Samuel Huntington over at Harvard. He once wrote this very controversial essay where he says Mexi...	well, oh no in that case i'll go back to the spanish armada we could. go - actually my theory is the reason why, mexicans will always remain a perpetual other is because as the i think he's, a sociologist or historian samuel. huntington. over at harvard he, once wrote. this very, controversial essay where he says mexic...	Well oh no in that case I'll go back to the Spanish Armada We could go - actually my theory. is the reason why Mexicans will always remain, a perpetual other is because as the I think he's a sociologist or historian Samuel Huntington. over at Harvard He once. wrote this very controversial essay; where he says Mexicans ...	well, oh, no, in that case, i'll go back to the spanish armada. we could go - actually, my theory is the reason why mexicans will always remain a perpetual other is because as the, i think, he's a sociologist or historian, samuel huntington over at harvard. he once wrote this very controversial essay where he says mexi...
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And I wonder, there's now been so - we were talking earlier in the show about a resentment and anger which - and it comes up in this issue. And the immigration issue has heated up so much people almost go off immediate. Is it easy to talk with your white friends, with your white colleagues about this issue?	and i wonder there's now. been so - we were talking earlier. in, the show about a resentment and anger which - and it comes up in this issue. and the. immigration issue has heated up so much people almost go off immediate is it, easy, to talk with your white friends. with your white, colleagues about this	And, I wonder there's now been. so - we were talking earlier in the show. about a resentment and. anger which - and it comes. up in. this. issue And the immigration issue has, heated up so much people almost go off immediate Is it, easy. to talk with your white friends with your white colleagues about this.	and i wonder, there's now been so - we were talking earlier in the show about a resentment and anger which - and it comes up in this issue. and the immigration issue has heated up so much people almost go off immediate. is it easy to talk with your white friends, with your white colleagues about this issue?
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Well, in my opinion, it's not going so well. Bush, you know, fool, we all know this, no different than anyone else, though. And I think that's the great shame we put on everything, that we think that there's some difference between a Republican or a Democrat or anyone who possibly wants to be president. You've got to a...	well in my opinion. it's not going so well bush you know fool we all know this no different than anyone else though and i think that's the great shame we put on everything that we think that there's some difference between; a republican or a democrat or anyone who possibly wants to be president you've got to ask yourse...	Well in my opinion it's not going so. well Bush you know fool we all know this no different than anyone, else though And I think that's the great shame we put on everything. that we think that there's some difference between a Republican or a Democrat or anyone who possibly wants to be president You've got to ask yours...	well, in my opinion, it's not going so well. bush, you know, fool, we all know this, no different than anyone else, though. and i think that's the great shame we put on everything, that we think that there's some difference between a republican or a democrat or anyone who possibly wants to be president. you've got to a...
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Will never change, until this empire crumbles and another one rises in its place, let's be honest.	will; never change until this. empire crumbles and another one rises in its place let's be	Will never change until this. empire crumbles and another one rises in its place let's be	will never change, until this empire crumbles and another one rises in its place, let's be honest.
It's really hard because there are - a lot of good people out there who do have - who are opposed to illegal immigration. And I do believe that a lot of them, they're not racist, they're not bigots but it's so hard to have that conversation because almost immediately whenever it comes to that topic, they'll say, oh, th...	it's really hard because there are - a lot of good people; out there who do have - who are opposed to illegal immigration and i. do believe that a lot of them they're not racist they're not bigots but it's so hard to have that conversation because almost immediately whenever it comes to that topic they'll say, oh those...	It's really hard because there are - a, lot; of good people out there who do. have - who are opposed to illegal immigration And I, do believe that a lot. of them they're not racist they're not bigots but, it's so hard to have that conversation because almost immediately; whenever, it comes to that topic they'll say, oh...	it's really hard because there are - a lot of good people out there who do have - who are opposed to illegal immigration. and i do believe that a lot of them, they're not racist, they're not bigots but it's so hard to have that conversation because almost immediately whenever it comes to that topic, they'll say, oh, th...
And given that - well, again, bringing up the absurdity is another form of humor, I guess. And do you find - you write this column (unintelligible) can obviously, you know, think about, do you find that you do that in regular life too that you can use a joke to deflect people's anger?	and given that - well again bringing up the absurdity is another form of, humor i guess, and do you find - you write this column (unintelligible) can obviously you know think about, do you find, that. you do that in regular life too that you can use a joke to deflect people's	And given that - well again bringing, up the absurdity is another form of humor I guess And do you find - you write this, column (unintelligible) can obviously you, know think about do you find that you do that in regular life too. that you can use a joke to deflect people's	and given that - well, again, bringing up the absurdity is another form of humor, i guess. and do you find - you write this column (unintelligible) can obviously, you know, think about, do you find that you do that in regular life too that you can use a joke to deflect people's anger?
I'll give you the best anecdote I know which happened to myself. One time, I was that this really fancy - I would call it a separate club in Orange County - and it was Mexican buffet night. So I was going to get myself some beans and rice. And I was dressed in what some people call a waiter shirt, a guayabera, which is...	i'll. give you, the, best anecdote i know which happened to myself one time i was that this, really fancy - i would call it a separate club in orange county - and it was mexican buffet night so, i was going to get; myself some beans and rice, and i was dressed in what some people call a waiter shirt a guayabera which i...	I'll give you the best. anecdote I know which happened to myself One time I was that this really fancy - I. would call it a separate club in Orange County. - and it, was Mexican, buffet night So I was going to get myself some beans and rice And I was dressed in what some people call a waiter shirt a guayabera which is ...	i'll give you the best anecdote i know which happened to myself. one time, i was that this really fancy - i would call it a separate club in orange county - and it was mexican buffet night. so i was going to get myself some beans and rice. and i was dressed in what some people call a waiter shirt, a guayabera, which is...
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Let's see if we can get another caller on the line? This is Art(ph). Art with us from Sacramento in California.	let's. see, if we can get another caller on the line? this is art(ph). art with us from, sacramento in	Let's see if, we can get another caller on the line? This is, Art(ph). Art. with, us from Sacramento in	let's see if we can get another caller on the line? this is art(ph). art with us from sacramento in california.
Hi. I'm just going to - I'm relating an the experience where I was at a Christmas get-together with my sister-in-laws, my brothers, and I was talking about race issues. And one of the things that I brought up was how as a child, I was Mexican in American home. My mom, fresh or new from Mexico, kind of, taught us, keep ...	hi i'm just going to - i'm. relating an the, experience where i was at a christmas get-together with my sister-in-laws my. brothers and i was talking about race issues and one of the things that i brought up was how as a, child i was mexican in, american home, my mom fresh or new from. mexico kind of taught us keep you...	Hi I'm; just going to - I'm, relating an the experience where I was at a Christmas get-together with. my sister-in-laws my brothers and I. was talking about race issues And one of the things that I brought up was how. as a child I was Mexican in American, home My mom fresh or new from Mexico kind of taught us keep your...	hi. i'm just going to - i'm relating an the experience where i was at a christmas get-together with my sister-in-laws, my brothers, and i was talking about race issues. and one of the things that i brought up was how as a child, i was mexican in american home. my mom, fresh or new from mexico, kind of, taught us, keep ...
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Yes, and affected, but it's affected me now as - in my professional life, I had difficulties, issues around trusting, you know, who I can trust. And in my - in that get-together in Christmas last year, I brought it up to my Caucasian sisters-in-law about this issue of trust. And one of them, kind of, looked at me (unin...	yes and affected. but, it's affected me now as - in my professional life i had difficulties issues around trusting; you know who i can trust and, in my - in that get-together in christmas last year i brought it up to my caucasian sisters-in-law about this issue of trust and one of them kind of looked, at me (unintellig...	Yes and, affected but it's affected me now as - in my professional life I had difficulties issues around trusting you know who I can trust And in my - in that get-together in Christmas last year I brought it up to my, Caucasian sisters-in-law about this issue of trust And one of them kind. of looked at me (unintelligib...	yes, and affected, but it's affected me now as - in my professional life, i had difficulties, issues around trusting, you know, who i can trust. and in my - in that get-together in christmas last year, i brought it up to my caucasian sisters-in-law about this issue of trust. and one of them, kind of, looked at me (unin...