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d55f86f30464-375 | Transcribed by Giovanni Colombo
TM: [8:24:00]...it should do well on the 20th century and it should do well on the Golden Age of Greece. If a theory of novelty incorrectly predicts those episodes, it's a pretty worthless theory of novelty. Once i had chosen an end date and i chose December 22nd 2012 i got a lot of sup... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-376 | TM: It depends on, on who you talk to. (ahh) [8:25:30] The Mayan calendar is built up of nested cycles some twenty years in length, some two forty and there are 13 baktuns. Which i think a baktun is 396 years in duration and most Mayanists believe, that, that a set of 13 baktuns, is the complete calendrical set. There'... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-377 | Audience: What about the chaos order boundary, sounds like that a lot?
TM: Yeah, well you can think of it that way. I haven't completely, resolved how novelty should be defined because if you know anything about Information Theory you know that they had a hell of a time getting a definition of complexity [8:27:30] tog... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-378 | That what we're seeing here, [8:29:00] is the Earth changing into a stable planetary body and then (ahh), the earliest forms of life, the Proto life, appears right here and undergoes a series then of fluctuations then (ahh), there is some kind of a problem, some impediment to what would otherwise be, the rather straigh... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-379 | Audience: The target date of today.
TM: The target date of today. Now what I'm going to do if there's a zoom function here [8:31:00] and we're gonna start flying towards the present and every time a screen changes we're gonna see half as much time on the screen. We have six billion years up, we'll go to three, then on... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-380 | Audience: It's coming up with minute, hour and day...[inaudible]...so is the origin of time... [inaudible]...like the origin of the universe?
TM: You would presume so.
Audience: So the Big Bang would kind of like be in the middle of the novelty...[inaudible].
TM: The Big Bang would be, no, the Big Bang would be very... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-381 | Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Here's 750 million years. This is virtually the entire history of life on Earth and in fact, of higher life. I'm sorry, you know, organisms, not, not multicellular life. This is the history of multicellular life and what you see is there was a steep descent [8:34:00] into novelty, until about... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-382 | Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Oh, asteroid strikes on the Earth.
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Oh well, there was a little tiny one in Arizona. Those happened all the time in Cosmic terms, every hundred thousand years or so. [8:36:00]
Transcribed by Tiago Ramos
TM: [8:36:00] But, (ahh) this thing that happened 65 million ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-383 | Audience: [inaudible]
TM: See what happens is a fractal is a nested dataset and every time you pass through a whole number, the pattern repeats. This sets up a very interesting, (ahh), (ahh), set of circumstances inside [8:37:30] the way which is that we can talk about temporal resonance. We can talk about how the Thi... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-384 | TM: (ahh) Sometimes, yeah it is very similar.
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: That's right.
Audience: [inaudible] [8:39:30]
TM: Yeah there's, (ahh) we never tried to do it, scientifically, you know where you would actually keep track, but (ahh) major astrological conjunctions are often reflected in major ingressions into... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-385 | Audience: Oh!
TM: You remember somebody said history always occurs twice, first as tragedy then as farce? [audience laughs] That person, who had a good intuitive (ahh)... [8:41:00] So now let's go into this a little more. (ahh) How much time do we have? Oh 93 million years, okay. [audience laughs] So, here's the a, he... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-386 | Audience: Why is this?
TM: Why? Because all the dinosaurs were killed in this impact and that allowed these little egg stealing rodent-like furry creatures to undergo an [8:42:30] explosive evolutionary radiation leading directly to our own vast superiority over the rest of nature. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, yeah?
Audience:... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-387 | Audience: [inaudible]...the last glacier was about 13 thousand years ago?
TM: Yeah i think it's actually over here still lost in detail. But these are, (ahh) you know how evolution is described as punctuated, how it [8:44:30] isn't that evolution proceeds smoothly but that will be a climax stasis and then suddenly man... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-388 | TM: Yes, these [8:46:00] could very well be magnetic reversals.
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Yeah, they, they very well could be magnetic reversals and...
Audience: So we're looking at ice ages.
TM: I, well what we're looking at is i'm suggesting they're ice ages, it was suggested that they're geomagnetic reversals. G... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-389 | there were Homosapiens indistinguishable from the people sitting in this room. [8:47:30] The oldest Homosapien skeletons are from there. That clear over here (ahh), this is the fungi deradiation meaning the proliferation of these crymate forms (ahh), and, and that's about (ahh), 900, a million years ago. (ahh) This, th... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-390 | Audience: It's known that something being created...[inaudible]...being [8:49:30] stored...[inaudible]...entire system.
TM: Conserved is the word i use but yes, that's right.
Audience: [inaudible] | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-391 | TM: That's right. Well, when we get to the present you'll be able to see, you know, the past few months, the next few months, the next few years. We approach it this way cuz i wanna convince you that there's something [8:50:00] sort of woo woo about this thing. It does seem to have an uncanny predictive ability. Now, t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-392 | date 50 years and we look at 1492, you know, it's all screwed up. You have to be right on the money [8:51:00] when you get into the historical data field because the historical data field can vary over a 24-hour period. I mean, John F. Kennedy dead, John F. Kennedy alive, the difference is 10 minutes. So, it can be ver... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-393 | forth and then from the time the modern human type emerges, it's a straight shot, down in there. [silence] Now, obviously we all know more about time as we get closer to the present. This is 366 thousand years to a 100 thousand years up there. [8:52:30] There's the last 200 thousand years, there's the last 100 thousand... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-394 | Audience: Oh, forgot, shut down the computer! [8:53:00] [audience laughs]
TM: Is it dying or is it having a good time?! [audience laughs]
Audience: [inaudible]...I forgot it does that! Anyway...
TM: What are you doing this evening? [audience laughs]
Audience: [inaudible]...Harry met Sally remember that orgasm in th... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-395 | TM: Oh yeah, we can go down. We can take it down to very small. The, (ahh) i mean, understand that the (ahh), the program does many wonderful things which we're not doing. I'm just doing a simple demo but obviously all this stuff has got to be about something. (ahh) [audience laughs] [8:54:30] Now we're getting into th... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-396 | thousand years ago to about 10 thousand years ago. Well now what is this sudden interruption of the descent into novelty here? I maintain based on the archaeological record that is what is called the Tanged Points techno-complex. Do you all know what that is? [8:55:30] It's (ahh), does anybody know what it is? Tanged P... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-397 | anxious monogamy, warfare, agriculture (ahh) you know, egohood, is born. Now somebody asked about, [8:56:30] who who, asked about Çatal Höyük? Somebody... Çatal Höyük, bottom of this stab here. The fire that burned through Çatal level 5A occurred in 65 hundred BC. We know this from charcoal dating. It's right there, it... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-398 | I do not understand because there are grains of charcoal [8:57:30] between the unmoved stones. That charcoal is not been anywhere since the day that stone was set in place and its 2790 BC. These people, who want to push it back and say it's 10 thousand years old, well the obligation to prove is on them because the carb... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-399 | Audience: Is the progression of time changing...[inaudible]
TM: Well, yes in a sense because you see what happens is when you, it's a built-in mathematical property of this wave that when you get to the end of a big wave, there's, when you get to the end on any scale there's a sudden drop, to the next scale and then i... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-400 | Transcribed by Tiago Ramos
TM: [9:00:00]...will be the jackpot. I mean the laws of physics will break down, everything will be in a state of visible motile transformation. This isn't happening in the human world, it isn't happening in our minds. It's a crisis in the strut- the structure of physical law itself and that... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-401 | Audience: One of the arguments, maybe being proposed by those on the...[inaudible]...that in fact is a very complex universe that then push through a membrane into the singularity which then creates another entire…
TM: Well, one possibility [9:02:00] is that it's a wrap around that we're just not, we're not whistling ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-402 | TM: Right. So in 1945 when the bomb flickers into existence over Hiroshima, this is the resonance of the Big Bang. It's being caused by the Big Bang and, the entire life of the universe, is then [9:03:00] somehow reenacted in the remaining 67 years. In the same way the, remember there was a 4306 years cycle. We are ree... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-403 | Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Yeah.
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: But in other words the heat death of the universe is 20 years away essentially is what is being suggested. Because time is beginning to accelerate at such a rate that this compression factor is enormous. Okay (ahh), (ahh), let me see, what have we got. We got... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-404 | Transcribed by Tiago Ramos
[Audience laughs]
TM: [9:06:00] (ahh) You know. But that’s what’s happening. Ahead of us is an enormous speedbump. We are colliding.. We’re about to collide with something that we can barely cognize. So, it’s hard to know what to think about it. Yeah?
Audience: Uh, this may be a little lal... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-405 | Audience: Right.
TM: You see.
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: And, and, and, so you know. You start to die and then you die and die and then realize you’re going to die forever, and never approach it. Because the, the seconds become stretched to millions of years. It’s something, it’s something like that. It’s about, and ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-406 | Audience: [laughs]
Audience: I know you have a distante for [9:09:00], quantum physics, but there was a conference apparently last spring in Spain. Actually, it was a conference of astrophysics, I believe. Because I heard some reports on it, their serious topic of discussion was, was trying to attempt to answer the qu... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-407 | TM: Well, the big bang looked like it was a real trouble as recent as six months ago but the new data from this, is is ogos three or, one of these satellites. They finally actually found, uhh, irregularities in the microwave background, and until they found some irregularity. Because they couldn’t figure out how you ge... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-408 | TM: [9:12:00]...discuss maybe why he would have said such a thing because i think we can illuminate it. Here let's (ahh), do a little more. We've got 22 thousand years on the screen, 11 thousand years on the screen, 5 thousand and some. This is in a way my favorite screen because this book i want to write i'm going to ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-409 | This, negative habitual or recidivist upward curve is studded with a whole bunch of a, of war-like [9:13:30] male dominator civilizations. The Hittites, the Mitanni, the Assyrians and up here at the top, Mycenaean Pirates overwhelmed the last outpost of the Goddess Culture on Minoan creed. This is Homer, right there. H... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-410 | of down but there's no real progress until the Industrial Reformation. I mean in the Industrial Revolution of the 17th forties. [9:14:30] Let's… | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-411 | Audience: [inaudible]...makes sense because any, any-any...[inaudible]...attempted, (ahh), descend into novelty ascend into novelty...[inaudible]...by the emerging church at the time.
TM: That's right. Of course this isn't Eurocentric, it's global.
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Oh you mean, where is the birth of Christ?... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-412 | TM: Yeah, that's right.
Audience: It's not really...[inaudible]...or dictate by human law. It just so happens...[inaudible]
TM: Wow…
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: How so? [9:16:30]
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: It-it keeps condensing toward, it keeps-it builds on complexity. Wherever there is complexity, you will get mor... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-413 | Transcribed by Tiago Ramos
TM: ..See this deep little chip here? [9:18:00] If we were to blow that up and look at the bottom of that trough, there was a moment when you could have had a dinner party, when Lao-Tzu, Confucius, Mencius, Pythagoras and Ezekiel could have all gotten drunk together, uh, had they.. been able... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-414 | TM: No, it’s not being driven by these great personalities. They are being driven by it. I’m sure that if you could’ve [9:19:30] stepped into Christ’s mind while he was undergoing the passion, the main question he was asking himself was: “What.. is going on? You know, why do I say what I do? Why do I do, what I do? I d... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-415 | Because he was a puppet of some cosmic force. You see, the transcendental object at the end of time is like [9:20:00] one of those reflecto balls that hang in discos, you know. And as it turns and spins it sends off distorted reflections of itself which ricocheted into the past. And if you are correctly situated, it’ll... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-416 | Audience: We are all [inaudible]..
TM: [laughs] No.
Audience: [inaudible] [audience laughs]
TM: ..okay.. [audience laughs]
Audience: [9:22:00] Did you address the time-span [inaudible]..?
TM: Well, no it picked up the time-span that we had. See it just accepted the correction. Thank you very much. Good thinking. N... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-417 | Audience: Oh, to know exactly the dates.
TM: To know exactly, yes. We’re pointing at the exact date. And I wanna get it over here. To the bottom of this sucker. 1121, [9:24:00] the first crusade. The collapse of fortress Europe.
Transcribed by Andrea Casanova
TM: [9:24:00] 1121, The First Crusade, the collapse of Fo... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-418 | beginning in the late 1354. The greatest demographic collapse that Europe has ever experienced, it's an absolute hit, dead on (ahh). Now let's (ahh), go over here to this... Now notice though that the recovery is quick, there's a steep descent into novelty and an almost immediate reversion back up to the [9:25:30] the ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-419 | Audience: Christopher Columbus?
TM: What? [audience laughs] Columbus was born? Thanks for playing! (ahh) [Terence and audience laughs] (ahh) In 1455 Constantinople fell to the Ottoman Turks making European access to the Far East impossible, therefore the Age of Exploration, begins and (ahh), and you get Vasco de Gama ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-420 | Audience: Not bad. [inaudible]
TM: I do, i do.
Audience: Oh you do?
TM: It's just we haven't written a manual yet. [9:29:00]
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Ooh, hard to say. [audience laughs] Okay, now it's pointing at today. Now let's do our zoom. Approach factor, 2, strange that it didn't ask for the seek minimum, is... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-421 | TM: All the painters of the Quattrocento, this is [9:30:00] the Italian Renaissance, this descent into novelty. And this, is the era of exploration. 1492, good huh? Good, good! The absolute thing is in 1485, and all the painters of the Italian Renaissance are along this thing. Now notice that in 1492, there isn’t an in... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-422 | of discovery and optimism and psychedelic exotica, [9:31:30] is the 30-years war. The 30-years war begins 1619 [actually 1618], it ends 1648. It begins with Europe Medieval. It ends with Europe Modern: Parliaments have replaced popes and kings. The whooole name of the game has been changed. Now, the 30-years war lasts ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-423 | slavery, the Patron system, forced labor, uh brutal return to habitual methods of the past. You may not know that slavery died with the fall of the Roman Empire. If you’ve owned a slave [9:33:00] during the medieval period, you owned ONE slave. It was a house slave. And it proved, your own ownership of this person prov... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-424 | there is a twist, a turn, right there, in 1739. This is the European Enlightenment. [9:34:00] The European, uh Enlightenment was the great uh intellectual step that set the step of secular civilization. People like Voltaire. And out of that came two revolutions. | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-425 | Audience: [inaudible question]
TM: Well, the inquisition would have been I presume a fairly un-novel thing. Since what it was, was a power group [9:34:30] torturing the helpless. Which there’s nothing new in that for heaven’s sake.
Audience: It went on for a long time too.
TM: It went on for a long time, and enough ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-426 | Audience: 1848 was the other one.
TM: Was-, 1848 was the year of revolution. But the Franco-Prussian was at the same of the American Civil War, you are right. Ok, there’s today’s date. Now let’s do the approach. [9:36:30] Approach factor.. two. [beep] Ah, okay that’s 357 years on the screen. You see the American and F... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-427 | Audience: The special.
TM: The special came first [9:38:30] in 1905, and the general came slightly later. Down here in the bottom of this trough, let me show you. Right there. Hitler becomes chancellor of Germany. And then all of World War II is fought in the bottom of that trench. Here’s 39’, here’s August 39’. That’... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-428 | Audience: [inaudible].
TM: Give me the date! [audience laughs]. Ok there’s the assassination of John Kennedy, as close as I can get it at this resolution. If I go back one, I’m before it. So you see, [9:41:00] it’s right at the bottom of that steep stab, that takes place against this other thing.
Audience: What turne... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-429 | Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Yeah.
Audience: Can you enlarge?
TM: Yeah i'm gonna cut it. I'm just trying to get back to today. There it is. Oh, okay. Cut it, zoom yes, approach factor 2, enter.
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Ah well it's gonna be…
Audience: [inaudible] [9:43:00]
TM: There it is. That's the Hippie thing ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-430 | Audience: 88.
TM: 88. So would have been November 88. That's October, that's November. Now what is the resonance to that moment? I don't think of it so much as, as Bush being elected as Reagan leaving office. The resonance here is the fall of Rome [9:44:30]. Rome falls right there. Well then, then see we have a series... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-431 | Audience: [inaudible]...convergence...[inaudible]...August 87.
TM: August 87?
Audience: [inaudible]
TM: Along that line. Well then let's go over to here.
Audience: I wanna see that harmonic convergence.
TM: Oh you want to see the harmonic convergence? Give me the date.
Audience: August 87. 8/87.
TM: 8/87. In jud... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-432 | Transcribed by Tiago Ramos
[9:48:00] Terence: “Mmkay now, look here, August 3rd, 1990, there’s where saddam hussein invades kuwait, it’s also where mohammed is born one level up. Uhm, I can get higher and lower resonances simply by touching eye here, we haven’t done that but it’s possible. [9:48:30] Now remember how a... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-433 | [AUDIENCE: “and war happens during novelty?” ]
Terence: [9:49:30] “well, wars can have, war is kind of an ambiguous thing, was is a habitual activity but it does cause novelty, especially technological novelty so you know that’s why it’s nice that you can blow up these waves and see the variation within the theme. Now... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-434 | [AUDIENCE: *inaudible* ]
Terence: “No no, Ross Perot goes on Larry King and offers a suggestion about his availability for the presidency now if the guy fades and becomes a nothing-burger it doesn’t count but he does have the wave [9:51:30] blowing at his back, uhh that’s for sure. So that’s basically it uhh, if you w... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-435 | [AUDIENCE: “Target date..” *inaudible* ]
Terence: “Yes, that’s where the cursor pops up. Now let’s choose the timespan, E, let’s do 10 years, plus months zero, plus days zero, now let’s graph the wave. Yes, yes. [9:53:00] So it’s pointing at today. 10 years. The last 5, the next 5. And what it shows is that we are act... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-436 | Audience: [Inaudible] [9:54:30]
TM: I haven’t the faintest.
Audience: [Inaudible]
TM: Well, I hope you’ll do this. Uhm, I think it should be done. Here I’ll show you [9:55:00] a function you haven’t seen. Instead of zooming in we’ll zoom out.
Audience: [Inaudible]
TM: Uhm, well no I’ll just- instead of ten years o... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-437 | TM: Yea, right, then there’s the whole thing. [9:55:30] So that’s the idea. Now, the notion is that- remember how I kept talking about how a cone contains all possible ellipses and you section it? What the psychedelic experience is, is a sectioning of eternity. And you can build up a picture of the cone by sectioning e... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-438 | to keep happening, can actually be described, uhm, in the same way that energy and, uhm, other factors in the universe can be described. Now what I- the last thought I want to leave you with, is I don’t think anybody could fig- could make this up. Certainly not me. A person with no training in mathematics, no interest ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-439 | All the things scientists are always screaming that occultists never will provide them with their theories, this provides. So I’m willing, since it’s only one person, one person’s life, I’m willing to, uhm, preach this, a little bit, because I’m not- [9:58:00] maybe I- I can’t believe- see the choice here is pretty sta... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-440 | Audience: [Inaudible]
TM: Uhm, yea, def, uhm,it’s- it’s- It’s right, I’m the greatest intellectual synthesizer in the history of man. If Im wrong, it’s just horse shit. So then the question is which is it? [audience laughs]
Audience: [Inaudible] [9:58:30]
TM: You- you mean, who am I the resonance of?
Audience: Yea
... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-441 | ™:Now let’s see what the resonance of that is, I, is the resonance call. It asks higher or lower. We answer higher, that means earlier..Higher. Major or trigonometric resonance, forget that, major is the answer. Which point, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 99th, I have no idea what that means, let’s answer, first. Uuuuumm 526 B.C., Oh ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-442 | you know population growth, river mouths, everything can be modeled by fractals, but nobody says Time can be modeled by a fractal. So I think probably the rise of fractal mathematics is indicative of this, the other thing is, this could never have been brought to the public without small personal computers. I developed... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-443 | what is, this all argues for an impossible conclusion, that the world is going to disappear up it’s own wazoo at dawn December 22, 2012…(inaudible crowd mumbling) ™ what?...oh you want to see the last day? (more crowd mumbling) ™ well here lemme uh, well here, yeah I’ll show you, I’ll show you the final thing, we’re ru... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-444 | on a linear graph, so that’s all. It’s just it was a thing about technology and eventually a technology was created which made the three dimensional spacetime matrix itself, obsolete….(crowd member says it’s the dimensional octave jump)™ The transcendental object is the despair of description, it cannot be known it can... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-445 | Transcribed by Shane Poe | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-446 | TM: [10:06:00]...it's the Philosopher's Stone, it's tantric union, it's good LSD, it's all of these things and more! It cannot-it transcends, language and understanding but the closer we get to it, the more it will be revealed. And the reason the 20th century is so peculiar, it's because we're so close to the zero poin... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-447 | so that anxiety drains from your life body and world view and then you just ride the wave and when people talk of catastrophe, revelation, salvation and destruction, you just smile a small smile knowing that it will be all that and more and more and more, It's something, i think it's to reassure us, you see i think the... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-448 | eschaton without panic because this crazy religions want to tell you that you're going to be judged and damned and fired and roasted, no no that's not it, they got the story wrong. We're just being sucked into hyperspace, and hyperspace is, the human imagination, the human heart, the human soul, it's the domain of our ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-449 | or write, Sounds True 735 Walnut Street, Boulder Colorado 80302] [10:09:30] | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-450 | TM: Does anyone want to ask a question or is it all just perfectly clear utterly convincing and…
Audience: [inaudible] | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-451 | TM: Bad effects of psilocybin? Somebody once said, what's wrong with DMT and i said, well nothing unless you fear death by astonishment. [audience laughs] (Ahh), but-but your question is a good one. [10:10:00] First of all, (ahh) you know, i talked a lot about how all we have to do is destroy and oblate ego, however th... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-452 | laughs] for you, to do it or if you do, if you're, just bent on doing that, then i would say (ahh), do it in the presence of some kind of professional and how you find a professional [10:11:00] in this legal climate you'll have to discuss with me in privately (ahh), (ahh). I don't want to make it sound dull, i mean, it... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-453 | know, you should go back to, watching Jeopardy [audience laughs] and... (ahh), the, the kind of person, the kind of person who is called to this, is a person who has an exploring soul. [10:12:00] | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-454 | Transcribed by Tiago Ramos
Soul, I mean my- I..I..I am not a courageous person in the sense that you won’t find me shooting white water, you don’t see me, ah, you know- rappelling down the faces of cliffs, but from the time I was a..a, the tiniest little kid I was into the weird. What weird- “Weird is the compass head... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-455 | ...and tributaries, there’s a wonderful alchemical saying, which I generally mangle, but I think it goes something like this: “the tallest mountains, the oldest books, the widest deserts - there you will find the stone”... and what it is, is it’s a prescription for exploring weirdness, that’s all. It’s not gonna be on ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-456 | gonna get you, for sure… but… ask the veterans, most people will tell you, you learn more from the bad trips than you do from the good ones… the good ones are ecstatic, and connect you up to nature and other people… the bad ones show you your kinks and your limitations and your thought *ferrers, and that sort of thing…... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-457 | to do these things is to, um, do them rarely, so that your whole system can reassert itself and come to equilibrium, and then, just slam it! [audience laughs] And, uh, this is amazing… I mean, I think… I think this works for all these psychedelics… I’m, uh, I’m an inveterate cannabis user, and I wish, in a way, that I ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-458 | some people never in their whole life touch it, is the place where you say, “My god, I’ve done… too much!” [audience and Terence laugh] It’s not easy, folks but… it’s worth shooting for! [laughter continues] basically, what you should do is, is, you know, do some homework, [10:16:30] read some books, talk to your frien... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-459 | TM: Someone else… yeah?!
Audience: [inaudible] …
TM: Well, I… uh.. my argument would be, that people don't take it enough [10:18:00], and they don't take it, uh, frequently enough… that, there are a lot of people who would really rather not get loaded, but who feel they must take some psychedelic drug in order to kee... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-460 | Transcribed by Randy Sloane
... and they don't take it, uh, frequently enough… that, there are a lot of people who, who really would rather not get loaded, but who feel they must take some psychedelic drug in order to keep membership in their peer group… so what they did, you know, you can always spot these people, be... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-461 | [inaudible]
[laughter]
™- Well I love competition, I mean I… The competition is terrible, that’s the entire basis of my success… Yes, you because you were before, if you still wish.
Audience: [inaudible] [10:20:30]
™- Why? Because, I mean I don’t know if it’s preferable but, here's the thing- people are going to th... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-462 | what it is… and so, I think this sensory deprivation method is the only way to get at that… other people might not like that, people say “you mean you put down that whole thing of going into nature? Isn’t nature the great affirmation?” and all this, and my answer is, yeah, but it works for me sortof without the drugs, ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
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49c6b31c6f79-1 | Now, this, on the face of it, is a tremendously naïve position, because what it says is the animal body that you inhabit, the eyes you look through, the fingers you feel through, are somehow the ultimate instruments of metaphysical conjecture… which is- is highly improbable. It seems to me, metaphysical conjecture begi... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+World+And+Its+Double |
49c6b31c6f79-2 | Uh, it’s not a pretty picture, modern civilization. Most people in the world today are quite miserable, actually. Uh, they have very little hope; their religions, their traditional value systems, are being eroded by, uh, Dallas and Hawaii 5-0, which are on the village television every night. Uh, lifespans are being sho... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+World+And+Its+Double |
49c6b31c6f79-3 | However, the psychedelic experience, as practiced by shamans in many, many parts of the world, is, uh, apparently a bite too large to swallow. Psychedelics arrived on the Western, uh, agenda only about 100 years ago, when, uh, German chemists, uh, brought peyote to Berlin and extracted mescaline; and for the next 50 ye... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+World+And+Its+Double |
49c6b31c6f79-4 | …if you look at thousands of these experiences, is: they dissolve boundaries. They dissolve boundaries between you and your past; you and the part of your unconscious you don’t want to look at; between you and your partner; between you and the feminine, if you’re masculine, and vise versa; between you and the world; al... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+World+And+Its+Double |
49c6b31c6f79-5 | This is why every labor contract on this planet – at least, in Western civilization – contains a provision that all workers shall be allowed to use drugs twice a day at designated times; but the drug shall be caffeine. Now, the reason why caffeine is so welcome in the workplace is because the last three hours of the wo... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+World+And+Its+Double |
49c6b31c6f79-6 | So – Now, it’s interesting, and this is one of the points that’s dear to me – I mean, they arrive in different orders each time, but – I think of history as a kind of mass psychedelic experience; and the drug is technology. And as technology gets more and more perfected as a mirror of the human mind, the cultural exper... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/The+World+And+Its+Double |
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