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Terence McKenna: [Audio cut off] Hyperspace that's being cr... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-1 | Micky Remann: Und in dem Masse in dem wir uns anschicken das Reich der Imagination im Cyberspace zu erkunden und zu bewohnen, sollen wir uns bemühen die Magie, das Zauberische am Leben zu erhalten. Was für die die die wirklichen Gewürze des menschlichen Geistes sind und, uh, nicht die Fehler zu machen die wir vielleich... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-2 | TM: So, you know, when you think about the cybernetic community, the psychedelic community, the cyberpunk community. It's in places like this that we gather and we self-select out of the rest of society. So what I think would be important to come out of any evening like this is that everybody take a good look at the pe... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-3 | MR: Die psychedelischen Gemeinschaften, die technodelischen Gemeinschaften, die psychone- navigatorischen neurologischen Gemeinschaften wie immer man sie in dieser Disko oder sonst wo anfinden mag, haben das gemein, dass sie sich selber gewählt haben ein Raum zu finden der sich vom Rest der Gesellschaft abhebt, in dem ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-4 | TM: What put me on to the connection between archaic shamanism and the new technology and the new music was when I went to the Amazon and, uh, spent time with the people down there who use a plant psychedelic called Ayahuasca. I discovered that, uh, the people were singing what they called magical songs, that were, uh,... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-5 | MR: Was mich interessiert an der Verbindung von archaischen schamanistischen Methoden und der Bewegung der Cyberspace und Cyberpunk ist die Verbindung zum, uh, zu der Art und Weise wie die Amazonasschamanen ihre magischen Gesänge vollführen. Sie nehmen eine halluzinogene Pflanzentinktur namens Ayahuasca zu sich, die, u... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-6 | sie nicht ja, dieses Lied hat aber gut geklungen oder es geht [sp?], sondern sie sagen mir hat besonders gut der Teil gefallen wo eben wie diese auf Lilauntergrund diese gelben Sterne erschienen, aber diese Teile mit den roten Streifen auf gelbem Feld, die fand ich weniger interessant. Das ist die Art und Weise wie im ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-7 | wieder in eine Bedeutung rückübersetzt zu werden, was ein extrem komplizierter Vorgang ist. Da wäre die Hoffnung des Cyberpunk des Cyberspace ein neue Form von visueller synestethischer Kommunikation zu finden, die es ermöglicht, dass wir das sehen was wir meinen. | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-8 | TM: So it seems to me the way the cyber, uh, punk, cybertech community can keep its compass pointed toward a real human future is to always keep natural models in mind. So, when I became interested in this whole problem of visual language, I went to nature to see if there was some natural system of communication that m... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-9 | MR: Wenn man diese neuen Dimensionen des Cyberspace erkundet, dann empfiehlt es sich vielleicht zu sehen ob es irgendwo natürliche Modelle gibt, die diese Art von angestrebter synesthetischer Kommunikation schn praktizieren. Das würde der Entwicklung auf jeden Fall sehr helfen, wenn man sich auf solche Modelle, uh, rüc... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-10 | TM: It's always held against the technical community that somehow we've moved beyond the values of the natural and the biological world. But if you think about what the tools of cyberspace are, they are integrated circuits, chips and, uh, electronic components which are made of gold, platinum, arsenic, silver, copper, ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-11 | MR: Was der Cyberspacegemeinschaft häufig vorgehalten wird ist ihre Fixierung auf diese technischen Mittel. Aber es ist natürlich, uh, wenn man sie auseinandernimmt, diese technischen Mittel, kommt man auf Silizium, Kohlenstoffverbindung, Polymere, Kupfer, Nickelt, Eisen, verschiedene Substanzen dieser Erde sind. Und w... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-12 | TM: So when I try to imagine the cybernetic world of the not too distant future, what I imagine is a world where, uh, all tools and toolkits have been tucked away into a virtual cyberspace. So what we see when we look at this world of the future is we see healthy men and women living in a natural environment, uh, naked... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-13 | a future of ultratechnology in a dimension that is split off from what is called the ordinary world. The ordinary world, the natural world is maintained like a botanical garden or a natural preserve and then the human imagination, which is this titanic, Promethean force that is loose in our species, it is free in a vir... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-14 | political slogan. We're taking back our minds from reductionism, from materialism, from scientism, from all of these intellectual philosophies which disempowered the artist and made the artist somehow slave to other forces in society. In the cyberdelic future, artists will rule, because the world will be made of art. | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-15 | MR: Wenn ich meinen kurzen Ausflug in die weitere Entwicklung dessen machen kann was Cyberspace heute am Anfang versucht, dann, uh, kann man sich vorstellen, dass es ein, uh, freundliches, lächelndes, äußeres Universum gibt, grüne Wiesen, lächelnde Menschen, die nackt in ihren Höhlen hausen und sich, uh, das Leben gut ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-16 | TM: Yes, you see. What we're doing is, uh, invoking a co- kind of collective mind. It's a a political project that has been the dream of civilization for as long as there has been civilization. And it actually is within the power of this generation to, uh, create this kind of new definition of humanness, where all the ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-17 | TM: Boring[sp?] the natural psychedelic vision into that loop, then, uh, endless realms of alien and unpredictable beauty lie ahead. And this is really what human beings were made for. I mean, we are the information generating, art making creature. All our higher activities, dance, painting, music, poetry, uh, human re... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
94b3adf12b59-18 | [Audience claps]
MR: Ich werd sehen, ob ich aus dieser Rede noch ein paar Fische ins deutsche Land heranziehen kann. Was als Kompass und Maßinstrument[sp?] gelten sollte, wenn man jetzt diesen Cyberspace erforscht und bewhont, sollte die Schönheit der psychedelischen Erfahrung sein. Nimmt man ein, uh, nimmt man diese ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Live+at+the+Cyberdome |
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Terence McKenna vs. Young Republican Radio Debate
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[0:00:00] [Introduction begin] ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-1 | [0:01:00]..ahh..how to slice into this pie, I try to never do it the same way because i don't want to get bored but that lays a sort of obligations on me that i am not always able to meet. 2 things i think are going on inside this wrap, as currently packaged. First of all, i am very interested in talking about the impa... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-2 | fringy here.[audience laughter]..I.. it doesn’t trouble me to concept that my book, Food of the Gods.. I really conceived of as a kind of an intellectual.. [0:02:30]..trojan horse. It’s written as though it were a scientific study; footnote, bibliography, citations that’s impossible to attain book and so forth and so o... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-3 | now..[0:03:30]..espouse..through skepticism, reason, rationalism and the tough argument. So it may sound bitsy, flaky and soft headed. Uhmm. But that’s just because you’re hearing it wrong. [audience laugh] the ..uhh.. The guiding input was .. experience. And in a way [0:04:00]..what we are gathered here to talk about.... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-4 | psychedelic experience. To my mind, the psychedelic experience..[0:05:00]..is as much a part of being human as sexuality, in..personal independence, uhhh.. child rearing.. These are the things which are scripted into us as opportunities for exercising our peculiar situation.. These..these phenomenal being. And a societ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-5 | Transcribed By Azlan
[6:00]
….or, uh, was it done more hastily, more mindlessly, and with more fear? I would submit to you that, uh, it’s the latter. Well, first of all I want to talk about the impact of psychedelics, especially in this case psilocybin, on human-ness. And then if there’s time maybe we can talk a litt... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-6 | I submit to you [8:00] that the psychedelic experience and the impact of psychedelic plants on human beings, is central to understanding who we are, and how we got this way. And if we can, uh, explore this issue and convince ourselves there’s some merit in this point of view, then it will simply- it will do more than r... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-7 | Only if the niche [9:30] is somehow disrupted or destroyed does the game veer away from its tendency toward closure. And this is what happened to us. Uh, our remote ancestors would have lived happily in the climaxed rainforests of Africa, in the same way the primates to this day live happily in the climaxed rainforests... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-8 | Now, I maintain, and if any of you are [11:00] evolutionary biologists or anthropologists this is the nub of my position: here’s what’s new scientifically: What they teach you about evolution is that it’s caused by mutation, which is a random process, which then meets another random process which is natural selection, ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-9 | It’s because it’s a strategy to limit exposure to toxic and mutagenic chemicals (13:00) that other life forms are sequestering in their tissue to discourage predation, essentially. Well, so then what happens when an animal population such as our remote ancestors comes under pressure from a dwindling habitat or a limite... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-10 | So. So here we have these proto-hominids foraging into this new grassland environment beginning to beat on prairie dogs, and stuff like that, and, and, simultaneously as we all know, evolving in this African veldt environment (14:30) were great herds of undulet animals; proto-cattle, bison, wildebeest, antelopes, many ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-11 | And psilocybin, different from all other chemicals in nature, including as far I can tell all other hallucinogenic chemicals in nature; (17:00) psilocybin has a unique set of characteristics which implicated to my mind very strongly in the catalyzing of the emergent of humanness out of proto-hominid and hominin organiz... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-12 | [0:18:00] be seen, by turning a crank- There were two parallel bars, and by turning a crank this person could rotate one of the parallel bars so that, uhm, it was no longer parallel. And, uhm, lacking talking rats they went to the next prefered experimental animal which is graduate students. And they would sit a gradua... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-13 | to him about this stuff he was very cagey, and he- he was funny in fact, he said “Well you see it’s very interesting. Apparently here we have data which, uhm, argues significantly that we are perceiving reality better with the drug than without the drug!”. [Audience laughs] Yes, yes. For him that was a joke. [0:19:30] ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-14 | And, consequently, they will outbreed those members of the population that have some aversion to this exotic food. Either they don’t like the look of it, or they don’t like that it grows in manure, or they don’t like the taste of it. But those who accept it, as a dietary item, will be more successful at getting food an... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-15 | And you’re having more of what straight anthropologists refer to as ‘Successful copulations’. An amazing phrase actually. [Audience laughs] Meaning, of course, that impregnation is a consequence of these- of this sexual activity. Now the other thing that psilcoybin does, [0:22:30] uhm, at or slightly above this arousal... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-16 | 0:24:00...Out of their body and they nurse the child but man do not in that situation have their children. My children. What they have are our children. The tribal group, and at this boundary dissolving thing, let’s dwell on this for a moment because this is central to my argument and it has political consequences for ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-17 | This is a male dominant society. I mean there’s a lot of complaining and hair pulling about nit and there’s a political alternative in the form of the women’s movement and feminist sensitivities. But for most people male dominance is the rule..Well, I...Would like to.. 0:25:30...suggest that our peculiarly discomforted... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-18 | and the boundary dissolving, sexual and social style which you carried in its way. So the reason that we as a people are haunted by the idea of a lost paradise, a perfect world sometime in the misty past. Is not.. 0:27:00...(..uhmm..).. You know the (..inaudible..) art called the..the nostalgia for paradise and thought... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-19 | so essentially, you know.. What happened was chemical.. A chemically driven leak in evolution had the consequence of the suppression of these 0:28:00.. behaviors that favoured male dominance. Ahh.. as a species.. Ahh.. we would’ve continued with male dominance forever. Had it not been for psilocybin in the diet.. And i... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-20 | pancreas of an elephant.. but , notice that.. 0:29:00-0:30:00...it is the organ which created the very of evolution itself (..audience laughter..) and all other theories..so, th..we’re getting a little topological here folks, there’s something (..audience laughter..)..fishy going on.. (..ahh..) what was it that caused ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-21 | Transcribed by Azlan | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-22 | ….and then it was lost, and we fell into history, you know the long slug toward armageddon is what was initiated in its place. Well know,if it was so wonderful, why would anybody ever let go of it; why was it lost?. Well, we have to go back to the very forces which created this situation. Remember I said it was the cli... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-23 | anyway, you get the picture. It was fading, and I don't think people took this lying down [laughs], no pun intended.[audience laughs]. I think that, there was great anxiety about the fading of the mushroom and the loss of the sacrament, and so, these people searched for a strategy for preservation. Well, in a world wit... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-24 | of thing a lot because, Food of the gods. Because what Food of the gods is really about are the hidden, ahh, actors, that drugs lay upon us; that we are not even aware of - and if you are tempting to preserve an hallucinogenic mushroom in honey what you have to be aware of is that honey itself is potentially a psychoac... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-25 | being acted out right in front of you.So and you know, it's not so true of our generation but I think probably for a thousand years nobody got laid in the western civilization unless they were juiced! Because christianity was laying such a heavy trip on everybody, people barely took their clothes off. In other words, y... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-26 | great hunt; It's all about getting up before dawn and hoewing the wheat out of the crops- so it doesn't promote a party mentality[audience laughs]. The other thing is, that as human mental capacity was evolving -remember that exploding brain size- as human mental capacity was evolving, women in this nomadic groups bega... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-27 | Transcribed by Javier Alonso
[0:36:00] gets you food, in other words they were able to cognise a cause and effect relationship that were separated over many months of time. At the same time that women were putting this together men were noticing that the act of sex had certain consequences nine months later.
The same... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-28 | Now you have a small town , now you have urbanism, now you have the division between nature and secular society, you have classes, you've got it all. And I maintain that this is the long march into hell and our particular uh obsession with drugs [00:38:30] as a species, I maintain can be traced back to this transition ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-29 | Uh, well if you take an [00:39:30] individual who is alcoholic or or has some kind of serious drug problem, current thinking is this can be traced to traumatic abuse in childhood. This is what happened to us! Traumatic abuse in childhood, we were literally torn out of a symbiotic relation to the earth by the forces of ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-30 | where it becomes slightly more woo woo [00:41:30] .. uh [laughs] Because what we have to talk about is .... What is the Psychedelic experience anyway? And I maintain that if we're talking about psilocybin, and were talking about taking it in nature as these people did, that you know, yes first come the dancing mice , t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-31 | Life has been on this planet for a billion and a half years and we don't know how many strange pathways beckon but at some point a kind of mind came into existence and it is real. It's what lies behind the religious impulse in our species. Uhh there really is somebody else sharing the local mind space and I [43:30] don... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-32 | What, the reason the reason the psychedelic experience is so baffling and transformative, even as we sit here with your heads full of Heidegger and Husserl and uh I don't know [44:30] Wilson Phillips and all the stuff is because uh in the face, in contact with that we have no more sophistication than our orthiastic mus... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-33 | The whole thing which characterises our dilemma as a global society is our inability to feel - feel the consequences of what we are doing. You know? We've got the data, the ozone hole is disappearing, the planktonic life in the sea will die if it does, that will disrupt the food chain. The world [46:30] food supply wil... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-34 | …(0:48:00)...and, you know, no less a straight person than Arthur Koestler, in a book called The Ghost In The Machine said humans are so wired for beating the brains out of woolly mastodons, that’s what evolution has equipped us to do; not negotiate weapons treaties and destroy bacteriological factories. We have to for... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-35 | our species then what the hell kind of future is it going to be? No future at all I maintain. So, if there is even the slightest iota of possibility that these things do what I’m saying they do, then we need to get Johnny-Quick on it and check it out. (0:49:30) Because we may be beyond the point of no return right now.... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-36 | cosmic experiment with universal implications and it rests in our hands. | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-37 | Everybody here tonight is here because a whole bunch of people didn’t drop the ball. (0:50:30) And you know, you think you got problems? Nine times in the last million years the ice has moved south from the poles miles thick. No antibiotics, no electronic communication, nothing, and I’m sure these people were miserable... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-38 | So I think we have been entirely too casual about the importance of the psychedelic experience. This is, for one reason, because we cannot publically get together and discuss it in detail. (0:52:00) And one of the things I think is very important about get-togethers like this is if you would look around you’ll notice t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-39 | Transcribed by Kevin Evans
[0:54:00] And it is a mystery. It is not gonna be reduced to the firing of synapses or repressed sexual desires or day residues or anything like that. It is uh the very thing we call this religions yammering about. It’s there. It’s real. I mean, if you think if the world is empty of adventur... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-40 | I mean I think, you know [0:56:00] I-I’m sorry to be so hard on religion. [audience laughs] I think it has it’s place, it places it’s inspirations of - of ethical behaviour, you know religion should teach ethical behaviour. But is has very, very little to say about the mystery of being of other than that it’s there. An... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-41 | [0:58:00] I mean if you were to come around, if you’ve never seen someone give birth and you came around the corner and it was in progres, you would be thoroughly, profoundly alarmed. I mean it looks like an enormous tumour is making it’s way out of somebody and they are being split in two and blood is being shed and t... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-42 | Transcribed by Matthijs Pals
1:00:00(..audience clap.) Does anyone want to ask a question? Or is it all just perfectly clear out of the convincing and urm..
Terence: Yea?
Audience: (inaudible question)
Terence: urm.. Psilocybin? Bad effect.. (drinks water)..Huh.. somebody once said, “what’s wrong with DMT?” and i s... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-43 | 1:01:30..do it in the presence of some kind of professional and how you find a professional in this legal climate you’ll have to discuss with me privately. Uhm..uh., i don't want to make it sound though, i mean it’s a tricky thing. I don’t want to make it sound like it’s absolutely riskless. Physically; I think that’s ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-44 | 1:03:30..in the by way and in tributaries (ahh..) there is a wonderful alchemical saying which i generally mangle..but i think it goes something like this; the tallest mountain, the oldest book, the wisest desert.. there you will find the stone. And what it is? It is a prescription for exploring weirdness. That’s all. ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-45 | 1:05:00..there’s a little bit of social confusion about it. One of the things i should make clear is i really advocate high doses, rarely. I think the worst thing you can do is get into a style of psychedelic didling. Where you know you take half a gram everyday. Wh.. All this is doing is giving you a tolerance to psil... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-46 | 1:06:30.. Catapult you into places where its.. It.. i love it.. The great place to get to on cannabis and some people never in their whole life touch it, is the place where you say, “My god! I’ve done..too much!”. (..audience laughter..) (..Terence Mckenna laughing..).. It's not easy folks, but it.. It’s worth shooting... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-47 | 1:09:00.. What i meant to imp.. I think they were using low, middle and high doses from the very get go. But they were using low doses to hunt.. Middle range doses for orgy and ceremony and truly high doses for this boundary dissolving tremendum.
Terence: Second literary question.
Audience: (..inaudible question....)... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-48 | 1:11:30 - 1:12:00.. Who..who.. Really would rather not.. Get loaded.. But still they must take some psychedelic drug in order to keep membership in their peer group. So what they did, you know.. You can always spot these people.. Because their first question..on..at the get go is, “will i be able to drive?”.. I love th... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-49 | Terence: Or do you wanna be thought psychotic? You choose. (..audience laughing..) (..Terence laughing..)
Audience: (..inaudible question..)
Terence: (..Terence laughing..) Well.. i love competition, i mean.. I .. (..audience laughing..) The..
1:13:30.. The.. competition is terrible, that’s the entire basis of my su... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-50 | 1:15:00.. Probably because they’ve been hanging out with BDI groups, meditating and god knows there’s nothing more boring on earth than most meditation. (..audience laughter..) however.. Psychedelic sitting in a dark in a room on five (5) dried grams of psilocybin mushroom is nothing like meditating and that’s where it... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-51 | 1:17:00.. Audience: (..inaudible..)
1:17:30 - 1:18:00.. Audience: (..inaudible..)
Terence: Are you asking me, “Do i think a homeopathic preparations of a psychedelic would be effective?”. (..umm..) It would be homeopathically effective.. I wouldn’t expect it to be experientially effective..
Audience: (..inaudible..)... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-52 | Terence: Oh I can hardly wait !
Audience: Why are you not in jail?
Terence: Ahhhhh…. Why am I not in jail? hmmm. Well that’s an interesting question. And I , uh, number one I don’t know, here’s what I’ve come up with.Uh, notice that I use big words.
[audience applause]
Terence: I don’t boil, I don’t try to boil it ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-53 | It’s very good to atomize it and spread it through, now the other thing is, you know, I advocate plant hallucinogens. And people always say, “well why, what about LSD, I mean, didn’t LSD change your life? Didn’t LSD change your life? Didn’t LSD change all our lives? Why aren’t you into LSD?” and the answer is certainly... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-54 | The thing I love about the mushrooms is that, if you’re a dedicated mushroom grower, you produce this piddling amount, and if they come and drag you away because it is illegal, all they get is you. No… no… syndicate collapses. No pyramid disappears. So, its invasive. And low-key, and slowly spreading. The other thing i... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-55 | Terence: “Absolutely if we could do it, I mean I’m not yet convinced, see. I mean you’ve got your guru’s, but, if you ever get close to any of these people in these guru scenes, close enough where you can just say to them: “Look, level with me, is this stuff as good as 5 grams in silent darkness?” And they say: “Huh, a... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-56 | Well the psychedelic experience is all content. The other possibility - and I put in some time in this beat, is uh, virtual reality. And I have more hope for virtual reality because virtual reality is a technology for showing, for, that would allow us to show each other the insides of our head. Our dreams, our vision. ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-57 | [Terence interjects:] “Well how about uh, how about this: Maybe there’s something wrong with that metaphor. Because notice it had to do with planes and transitions, it’s an inherently dualist metaphor.”
[Official-sounding tape transition lady:] “This concludes tape one. Our program continues with tape 2”
[Terence:] “... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-58 | One last point and then we’ll go on, uhm, there’s a story, maybe you some of you know this story of uh, a man who lived by the side of a river. And he wanted to uh, he wanted to cross the river. So he, uh, practiced a siddhi of levitation so that he could walk across the water. And it took him forty years to perfect th... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-59 | Audience : (..inaudible question..)
Terence: ..Yea, i wouldn’t recommend it especially in the late stages of pregnancy doing anything that is gonna wildly perturb you, and you know LSD is discovered in the act of trying to produce better drugs to induce labour. So that’s excellent advice..
1:31:00.. honor the fetus. ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-60 | 1:32:30.. by human use.. And then, (..uhm..) somehow in the lighten future..We will explore these synthetics and find out just what the parameters are..
Terence: Yea? Finish up..
Audience: (..inaudible question..)
Terence: No, i’m nothing man. I’m saying take things which have been sanctioned by human usage. I mean.... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-61 | 1:35:00.. Late 1960.. Now.. people have, you know..some of the least likely people report intense encounters with the goddess.. So, is it amplifying the general mindset..of the society and so there’s more goddess up there? Or.. i don't really know.. It's a very interesting question. There are more questions than answer... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-62 | "We're trying to restore the relationship of ego to the other components of the psyche that existed as recently as 12.000 years ago. The ego has become a deadly growth in the historical societies, exacerbated by the phonetic alphabet, monasteism, modern science. This is like you're getting sicker, and sicker, and sicke... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-63 | cultural positions that we previously just we're going to bulldoze over, and so forth and son on. So it's ah-- it's the diminishing of ego, by any means necessary that lies to getting any grip on our problem, I mean if we continue as we are, I think we have probably less than 30 years before life is irreconcilable scre... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-64 | just go to work and raise their kids and pray somebody smarter is doing something about all this, but they don't believe there is any kind of normal future and I don't either, I think we're going to, that this business as usual is not on the menu folks, we're either going to go to an era of immense resource scarcity, r... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-65 | If capitalism is an interesting problem more easily discussed now than the communism is, how does the picture, capitalism is as anti-human philosophy as you can possibly conceive because at this very moment we should be consuming less, manufacturing less, selling less, transporting less and what's the battle cry? Free ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-66 | things, and nobody wants to talk about this, we're still having the party over the fall of communism. But, you know, you go to the soviet union or the former areas or the soviet union and you see that what it was, it was a deep freeze for traditional culture. In Kurdisia and Turkmenistan people were basically camel hus... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-67 | of stuff, or we're not gonna be around to tell the tale." | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-68 | Transcribed by Nicole
[Inaudible* question from audience] [1:42:00]
No i think that, you know revolutions are made by percentages uh if 15 or 20% changed [1:42:30] then the example would spread. You see, I, uh, we are not, uh, psilocybin is the easy way to awaken. YOu know, take a, take a psychedelic plant and have a... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-69 | For years, i fantasy speech i always imagine that I was somehow end up giving but but it’s it’s theis speech where you say, “MY fellow Americans, you have been lied to.” Screwed and abused by these two criminal parties for a hundred years. And you're only hope is to overthrow the republicrats and create a decent world ... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-70 | Good for you. (terrence laughs)
Well probably half at least in the room hasn't the faintest idea what the question is about. I stay away from this because this is the personalistic stuff were i created a certain model of reality based on a new way of looking at time and i don’t want to go into it too much tonight. But... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-71 | Transcribed by Marina Quirk
You know how all these religions, these western religions have built in this idea of the end of the world and they’re always running around expecting the messiah or something and this, to the scientific mind is just the final proof of the pudding that these people have water between the ear... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-72 | Well then you come underneath the paper with a powerful magnet and lo and behold these little [1:49:00] iron filings coherently arrange themselves into this beautiful double mustache pattern, which i'm sure you’ve all seen well i think that there is a-an enormous punchline to the historical process that no- very very f... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-73 | You know, in frame 1 you’re chicken flint, in frame 2 you’re hurling an instrument toward Alpha Centauri, [*Terence Clicks*], like that! -This happens. Well what’s happening is that mind itself [1:51:30] is being pulled out of this creature and it’s being given hands and languages and pos-symbolic systems in order to i... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
d55f86f30464-74 | [audience inaudible]
™: Yeah we will dig into this in the uhh interim, uhh [1:53:30] i think the, -it’s- it’s worth taking the time for everybody to just make a very brief, very very brief statement about, you don’t have to say who you are if you don’t want to, but you can say what you’re hoping for or why you’re here... | https://www.asktmk.com//talks/Search+For+The+Original+Tree+Of+Knowledge |
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