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CMV: If protesting is a justified exception to quarantine, so should voting in person in November.
Voting is an essential civic duty for all citizens of a democracy. Although we can argue about whether there is an issue in fidelity for mail-in or absentee voting, there is no doubt that voting in person is the best met... | Voting in person vs via a mail in ballot equates to the same outcome. People are still allowed to go vote in person as well. Protesting not in person wouldn’t attract the same type of attention they’re getting while being there in person.
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Theoretically the same outcome, but our systems have never handled this man... | The problem with that is that mail-in voting works just fine and tens of thousands of US citizens abroad for various reasons have used it for years, without problems. The idea that voting by mail is somehow not secure or...whatever is pure fantasy. Every American voter should have the option to vote by mail.
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No... | hunzsf | CMV: If protesting is a justified exception to quarantine, so should voting in person in November. | Voting is an essential civic duty for all citizens of a democracy. Although we can argue about whether there is an issue in fidelity for mail-in or absentee voting, there is no doubt that voting in person is the best method with the most integrity, with the least stress on existing voting systems and most likely to be ... | camera156 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Donald Trump will brute force his way to victory
This is a CMV about Donald Trump winning the 2020 elections through authoritarianism and abusing the electoral process. It's not about polling except that he will be able to overcome any polling deficit he may have through these same means and methods. Come hell or... | Only some of those things are within his power, like the manufactured DOJ investigation. Most are within the purview of the individual states overseeing the election.
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Which is why I, for purposes of this CMV, conflated Trump and the Republicans at large, who do have that power. As stated in the OP.
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But that... | Could someone clear a doubt for me...
How were the actual elections hacked but not the popular vote??
I mean the DNC database was hacked so to cement the win wouldn't it be better for a victory in the popular vote too?
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1. You don't have to. Just certain states.
2. A large discrepancy between self-reported popul... | hupod0 | CMV: Donald Trump will brute force his way to victory | This is a CMV about Donald Trump winning the 2020 elections through authoritarianism and abusing the electoral process. It's not about polling except that he will be able to overcome any polling deficit he may have through these same means and methods. Come hell or high water, Trump can--and will--brute force his way t... | Cobalt_Caster | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Anyone with a moderate amount of singing talent can be a pop star.
This is, of course, assuming they have the drive, desire, and health to accommodate the pop star lifestyle without burning out. Oh, and are attractive enough.
With today's advances in audio tech, ok singers can sound fantastic. The promotional st... | Thats actually true on a level, as there are plenty of mediocre singers who have star status.
I guess the question would be how do you define "Star"? Is it by the number of song's released,The money they earn, The culture they create or the persistence of their work?
If we take someone like Michael Jackson, for exa... | [removed]
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It's there, but buried a bit. I'll edit to feature it near the top.
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Gotcha, well I'm not going to try to change that view then! | 6bcecc | CMV: Anyone with a moderate amount of singing talent can be a pop star. | This is, of course, assuming they have the drive, desire, and health to accommodate the pop star lifestyle without burning out. Oh, and are attractive enough.
With today's advances in audio tech, ok singers can sound fantastic. The promotional studio, advertising, sound editors, the army of producers, writers, etc cou... | iamthestarlord | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People who believe in a specific God should be treated the same as people who believe in Santa Claus and religious discrimination isn't comparable to racial or gender discrimination.
Alright, this might look very inflammatory, but I genuinely believe this and if I there are things I'm not seeing that would change... | I want to focus on your advocacy for religious discrimination. Are you saying that you should be able to deny employment or housing on the basis of religion? You only talk about "judging" but that's perfectly allowed, but it's also allowed to judge people based on their race or gender or sexual orientation.
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>Are ... | Could explain why you don't believe in any specific gods? You haven't provided any argument beyond asserting that it's ridiculous.
As for the objectivity of morality, could you explain why you think that's an illusion?
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>Could explain why you don't believe in any specific gods? You haven't provided any argumen... | 6e86d1 | CMV: People who believe in a specific God should be treated the same as people who believe in Santa Claus and religious discrimination isn't comparable to racial or gender discrimination. | Alright, this might look very inflammatory, but I genuinely believe this and if I there are things I'm not seeing that would change my mind I would like someone to point them out to me because obviously having this belief creates a bit of animosity towards the majority of the population from me and I feel like it would... | PotHead96 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: If we are going to keep the death penalty, it would be better to replace it with just changing how the person thinks.
From my point of view, if we are already condemning people to die, would it not be better to just change how they think? After all, isn't it better to just change how they think, either via brainw... | Justice is about putting into order that which is in disordered by a crime.
So, we should have a system in place designed to help those who committed a crime to right their wrongs.
However, what about those who DON’T wish to change? What do we do then? Those who reject to accept their wrong doing?
You are suggesting... | The counterpoints are:
1) Some forms of slavery are worse than death, slavery of the mind would qualify from my viewpoint
1a) If 'free will' and 'free thought' are real, then it would stand to reason that they are vital attributes of personhood, to reduce them would unintentionally or intentionally result in making c... | 1c5hsyk | CMV: If we are going to keep the death penalty, it would be better to replace it with just changing how the person thinks. | From my point of view, if we are already condemning people to die, would it not be better to just change how they think? After all, isn't it better to just change how they think, either via brainwashing or something else, instead of just letting them die? Death is literally the worst possible outcome, and why would you... | DesideriumScientiae | 53 | 36 | [
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CMV: "public servents" should be paid minimum wage and have no benefits other then what is federally mandated.
Edit * by public servants I meant politicians *
I feel like the system is built to foment the plights of the working class, mostly good wages/hours and benefits, mostly being healthcare.
If this is a democr... | Why would anyone who is capable of making substantially more money in the private sector choose to be a public servant in this situation? You'd end up with all the people who flunked out of high school running for office and setting policy.
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Well that is the point, I want average workers to take the lower wages i... | I agree with you that it is fundamentally unfair to have working people ‘represented’ by the wealthy. But I’d like to change your view on the effectiveness of this strategy. Lowering congressional salaries to minimum wage would make the problem worse, not better. It would mean that only people who were independently we... | ntw3mc | CMV: "public servents" should be paid minimum wage and have no benefits other then what is federally mandated. | Edit * by public servants I meant politicians *
I feel like the system is built to foment the plights of the working class, mostly good wages/hours and benefits, mostly being healthcare.
If this is a democracy, then politicians should represent the vast majority of the people, who are working class. It makes no sense... | bobdylan401 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cities should not pay for law enforcement's mistakes
Police officers are sometimes found guilty in a court of law for doing wrong against innocent citizens whether that be an unjustified shooting, wrongful imprisonment, causing injury, etc.
Restitution is usually made to the victim of this injustice through fina... | > I understand that the offending officer may not have millions of dollars to pay the victim, but they could have their paycheck garnished like is done for taxes or child support
Presumably they're about to lose their job, and what is someone supposed to do about the debt they might accrue (for example, if they have a... | >I can't wrap my head around why it is done this way.
The officer isn't just some dude. He is a representative and employee of the city, acting on their behalf under their authority.
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As a representative of the business that employs you, are you not still responsible for any wrongs that you do or is the busine... | 6beo95 | CMV: Cities should not pay for law enforcement's mistakes | Police officers are sometimes found guilty in a court of law for doing wrong against innocent citizens whether that be an unjustified shooting, wrongful imprisonment, causing injury, etc.
Restitution is usually made to the victim of this injustice through financial compensation. However, rather than the victim or thei... | jamiegandolf | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Cities should not pay for law enforcement's mistakes
Police officers are sometimes found guilty in a court of law for doing wrong against innocent citizens whether that be an unjustified shooting, wrongful imprisonment, causing injury, etc.
Restitution is usually made to the victim of this injustice through fina... | >I can't wrap my head around why it is done this way.
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Presumably they're about to lose their job, and what is someone supposed to do about the debt they might accrue (for example, if they have a... | 6beo95 | CMV: Cities should not pay for law enforcement's mistakes | Police officers are sometimes found guilty in a court of law for doing wrong against innocent citizens whether that be an unjustified shooting, wrongful imprisonment, causing injury, etc.
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Police officers are sometimes found guilty in a court of law for doing wrong against innocent citizens whether that be an unjustified shooting, wrongful imprisonment, causing injury, etc.
Restitution is usually made to the victim of this injustice through fina... | Because that isn't practical at all. At the end of the day, the legal entity ultimately responsible for the injustice is the *police force itself*. And even if that wasn't the case do you really think the officer will have 100s of K lying around?
I agree that the individual police officers should be held accountable (... | >I can't wrap my head around why it is done this way.
The officer isn't just some dude. He is a representative and employee of the city, acting on their behalf under their authority.
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As a representative of the business that employs you, are you not still responsible for any wrongs that you do or is the busine... | 6beo95 | CMV: Cities should not pay for law enforcement's mistakes | Police officers are sometimes found guilty in a court of law for doing wrong against innocent citizens whether that be an unjustified shooting, wrongful imprisonment, causing injury, etc.
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CMV: Modern Millenial/Gen Z webcomics are just as one-dimensional as Baby Boomer cartoons
Recently I've noticed a growing trend amongst the younger generations of mocking the sort of cartoons produced by baby boomers. Here are some examples:
[Boomer comic 1](https://i.redd.it/38cmwn7viga31.png)
[Boomer comic 2](http... | There are so many more web comics available than the boomers ever had any access to; of course you can find examples of uninspired cartoons.
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It's equally easy to find the uninspired boomer cartoons, just look at /r/boomershumour. I admitted to generalising in the OP, but I don't feel it's fair to cherry pick boom... | Just wanted to point out that millenials (aka gen Y, from early 80's til mid-90's) and gen Z (from mid-90's till late/mid-2000's) are different generations if you were not aware of that.
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I know, I'm using both terms as both are thrown around to describe the current young adult generation.
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OK, good to know! | cmp3js | CMV: Modern Millenial/Gen Z webcomics are just as one-dimensional as Baby Boomer cartoons | Recently I've noticed a growing trend amongst the younger generations of mocking the sort of cartoons produced by baby boomers. Here are some examples:
[Boomer comic 1](https://i.redd.it/38cmwn7viga31.png)
[Boomer comic 2](https://i.redd.it/p21afrh32hc31.jpg)
[Boomer comic 3](https://m.imgur.com/YDZ7kPx)
Typically ... | Viewbob-True | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: It is not empowering for a woman to sleep around in NSA relationships
I'll start off by saying that it doesn't bother me if a woman sleeps around because she likes sex. As long as an individual doesn't break any laws or risk harm for themselves, more power to them to do whatever they want. If someone likes sex th... | >I just can't see how it's empowering for a woman to just be used as a tool for someone to feel good.
But did not you just say "**Both parties** are just using each other," so you are missing the second half of this statement:
Using someone else as a tool for your own pleasure can surely be empowering, no?
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Fair... | The thing about empowerment is it's all about context. So what can be empowering for one person in one situation can literally be the exact opposite for another person in another situation, which is what makes it a tricky thing approach.
Now with relationships, historically, women have had to sacrifice a lot for th... | 6e8kma | CMV: It is not empowering for a woman to sleep around in NSA relationships | I'll start off by saying that it doesn't bother me if a woman sleeps around because she likes sex. As long as an individual doesn't break any laws or risk harm for themselves, more power to them to do whatever they want. If someone likes sex that much, who am I to judge?
But the thing I have issue coming to terms with... | bodan94 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Toenails are Useless
The toenail is a vestige, a holdover, a relic without modern purpose. What is the point of a toenail? They are harder than the flesh of the toe, yes, but they don't protect from frontal impacts - I have never seen a toenail that could prevent me from stubbing a toe.
They could in theory ... | We don't wear shoes all the time. Toenails distribute force that might otherwise impact the small, relatively delicate bones at the end of your toes. They are also helpful in developing balance and proprioception which helps tell where the end of your body is.
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I do wear either shoes or slippers pretty much all of... | They help you obtain a mate. Increasing reproductive success is not "without modern purpose".
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How?
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People are more likely to have children with people they find attractive
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No I’m saying how tf is a toenail attractive?
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Just look at some toes without them, they don't look right | 1c69u8o | CMV: Toenails are Useless | The toenail is a vestige, a holdover, a relic without modern purpose. What is the point of a toenail? They are harder than the flesh of the toe, yes, but they don't protect from frontal impacts - I have never seen a toenail that could prevent me from stubbing a toe.
They could in theory protect against impacts fro... | Lavallin | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Cursing is like shouting - occasionally appropriate, but doing it all the time makes you sound stupid and annoying
I am the father of a son 1-year-old boy. He doesn't talk yet, but I feel I need to think about how to teach him things - among other things, an attitude towards harsh language.
I use harsh language ... | A lot of the roots of and [stigma](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/smarter-living/the-case-for-cursing.html) surrounding cussing are embedded within layers of classism
“Curse words can help you more accurately communicate your emotions, which contradicts the folk belief that people use profanity because they lack ... | Words have meaning. Curses provide emphasis and meaning where other words fail.
That being said - most people who use curse words do so because they lack the vocabulary to adequately or efficiently express their point otherwise.
Teach him to insult his opponents so elegantly it takes them until the next day to full... | n4to8w | CMV: Cursing is like shouting - occasionally appropriate, but doing it all the time makes you sound stupid and annoying | I am the father of a son 1-year-old boy. He doesn't talk yet, but I feel I need to think about how to teach him things - among other things, an attitude towards harsh language.
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CMV: Reporting to the police that you killed a home invader is a very stupid idea (if you can bury the corpse safely)
My argument is as follows: once you are alone in the boondocks, you don't take no chances, ain't nobody gonna invade your home with easiness... traps are vital... but just like a bug (the burglar) and ... | If it was truly in self-defense then there's no reason that you would be sent to jail.
If you really went through with your plan and someone reported that person missing and they find the body then you've got a lot of explaining to do.
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> If it was truly in self-defense then there's no reason that you would be s... | If you've been found to kill someone and cover it up by burying the body and not reporting it to the police you will go to prison pretty much 100%, for a very long time. If you report to the police that you killed a home invader in self defense it is very very unlikely that you will do any jail time, there are laws ma... | 6l8b1y | CMV: Reporting to the police that you killed a home invader is a very stupid idea (if you can bury the corpse safely) | My argument is as follows: once you are alone in the boondocks, you don't take no chances, ain't nobody gonna invade your home with easiness... traps are vital... but just like a bug (the burglar) and a spider (the architect, you) you gotta do something.... in those forsaken lands (compared to the bubble that city peop... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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My argument is as follows: once you are alone in the boondocks, you don't take no chances, ain't nobody gonna invade your home with easiness... traps are vital... but just like a bug (the burglar) and ... | If you've been found to kill someone and cover it up by burying the body and not reporting it to the police you will go to prison pretty much 100%, for a very long time. If you report to the police that you killed a home invader in self defense it is very very unlikely that you will do any jail time, there are laws ma... | If it was truly in self-defense then there's no reason that you would be sent to jail.
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CMV: Reporting to the police that you killed a home invader is a very stupid idea (if you can bury the corpse safely)
My argument is as follows: once you are alone in the boondocks, you don't take no chances, ain't nobody gonna invade your home with easiness... traps are vital... but just like a bug (the burglar) and ... | If it was truly in self-defense then there's no reason that you would be sent to jail.
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> If it was truly in self-defense then there's no reason that you would be s... | If you've been found to kill someone and cover it up by burying the body and not reporting it to the police you will go to prison pretty much 100%, for a very long time. If you report to the police that you killed a home invader in self defense it is very very unlikely that you will do any jail time, there are laws ma... | 6l8b1y | CMV: Reporting to the police that you killed a home invader is a very stupid idea (if you can bury the corpse safely) | My argument is as follows: once you are alone in the boondocks, you don't take no chances, ain't nobody gonna invade your home with easiness... traps are vital... but just like a bug (the burglar) and a spider (the architect, you) you gotta do something.... in those forsaken lands (compared to the bubble that city peop... | [deleted] | 3 | 3 | [
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My argument is as follows: once you are alone in the boondocks, you don't take no chances, ain't nobody gonna invade your home with easiness... traps are vital... but just like a bug (the burglar) and ... | If it was truly in self-defense then there's no reason that you would be sent to jail.
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> If it was truly in self-defense then there's no reason that you would be s... | Man, there are so many things wrong with this. Hard to even know where to start, so I guess I'll just go in your post order.
>traps are vital
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CMV: The dominance of Black Americans in sports and music isn't evidence of 'natural talent' - it's evidence of systemic racism blocking other paths to success
The evidence of systemic racism is hiding in plain sight, but we've accepted comfortable explanations that obscure the truth through sophisticated forms of vic... | I’m not sure about music, but black Americans objectively run faster and jump higher than white Americans. Basketball and football are accessible regardless of income. If horse racing or ice hockey were cheap and accessible, black Americans would probably “dominate” those too.
Their success in sports is absolutely ev... | > When we see Black Americans dominating sports and music
Do you mean dominate as in, have an outsized representation? Or dominate as in, are the most dominate in their sport?
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Outsized representation.
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Well, statistically, your statement is not even remotely correct. In the US, Black/African American indivi... | 1itaw4v | CMV: The dominance of Black Americans in sports and music isn't evidence of 'natural talent' - it's evidence of systemic racism blocking other paths to success | The evidence of systemic racism is hiding in plain sight, but we've accepted comfortable explanations that obscure the truth through sophisticated forms of victim-blaming. When we see Black Americans dominating sports and music, we call it "natural talent" - a seemingly positive framing that actually blames the victims... | granduerofdelusions | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: MLK was the greatest speaker of all time. And it's a shame that soon there won't be anyone left who was there
Every time I hear Martin Luther King Jrs speeches, I can't help but get emotional and shed tears until it's hard to see. Maybe I'm a bitch because of that, but his voice is powerful and I can feel what he... | He inspired people to fight against racism. The impact you hear is partly his speaking quality and partly the tremendous righteousness of the cause. Can he give a rousing speech on not wearing deodorant? Inspire people to buy him a private jet? Incite people to murder some innocents?
You are overestimating him and ... | >Nothing can possibly convince me otherwise.
Then why are you posting this here?
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There is a sentence before and after the one you quoted.
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Great, just wanted to clarify as there are many posts there where people don't want to change their view and I just wanted to not waste time on fruitless discussion. So ... | 1c67rtz | CMV: MLK was the greatest speaker of all time. And it's a shame that soon there won't be anyone left who was there | Every time I hear Martin Luther King Jrs speeches, I can't help but get emotional and shed tears until it's hard to see. Maybe I'm a bitch because of that, but his voice is powerful and I can feel what he's saying. I can understand how he moved so many millions of people both white and black to fight for freedom. It ma... | FreakinTweakin | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Canada: Indigenous Nation leaders are more to blame than the federal government for the contiuned inequality indigenous people experience.
There are 634 recognized first nation communities in Canada. A few dozen have succeeded in becoming practically if not fully self-sufficent. But so many of these nations seem ... | Tell me you know nothing about Canadian history without telling me you know nothing about Canadian history. Or how indigenous money is allocated, governed or reported.
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I know plenty of Canadian history. From grade 4-12 and the first two years of university, i had indigenous studies. I take indigenous sensitivity ... | What you're describing isn't abnormal of indigenous reserves in Canada. Because of this, we can only really approach this from one angle if we want to have a constructive discussion.
>The people currently in charge of his nation have absolutely no experience in leadership, planning or money management. There were 4 p... | 1lole83 | CMV: Canada: Indigenous Nation leaders are more to blame than the federal government for the contiuned inequality indigenous people experience. | There are 634 recognized first nation communities in Canada. A few dozen have succeeded in becoming practically if not fully self-sufficent. But so many of these nations seem to be stuck in squalor regardless of money given.
Since 2015 $200 billion dollars has been invested into indigenous communities. The current an... | EreWeG0AgaIn | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Ignoring environmental impacts, animals don't have any inherent moral value and shouldn't be valued just as sentient existence.
So I've been thinking this for awhile and I am interested in changing my view because most people heavily disagree with my general argument. Most I just see Most people I've talked to ha... | I think the most effective way to come at this view is by trying to understand why you value positives to society. You can be internally consistent regarding the lines you draw, but it's crucially important to consider why you draw the lines there.
Say you've got this circle of moral consideration that you're at the ... | So if everyone in your society thinks you should be killed, regardless of your actions, that's fine because it would benefit society as a whole?
Am I reading this correctly??
Edit: the reason I am saying this is because you are an animal, do you agree with this point?
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I guess I worded it wrong, as its not a me... | le6puf | CMV: Ignoring environmental impacts, animals don't have any inherent moral value and shouldn't be valued just as sentient existence. | So I've been thinking this for awhile and I am interested in changing my view because most people heavily disagree with my general argument. Most I just see Most people I've talked to have used arguments along the lines of because we're humans or what about what the animals feel?, which I don't think are good arguments... | AtlanticRiceTunnel | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Verbal abuse in games shouldn't be Punished cause they don't inder the experience
Toxicity Isn't a problem in and of itself cause you can Always Just mute the guy.
If Someone Is flaming you, telling that you should off yourself and everything BUT they're still playing well they're doing nothing negative in rega... | People engaging in verbal abuse, and getting away with it, encourages others to engage in it and ends up creating a culture where this kind of behavior is normalized.
Sure, you can mute on guy, two, three... but once a huge number of players behave this way, people who don't like it start leaving the game, and pretty ... | Someone telling you to off yourself is going to impact how much you enjoy the game negatively, surely? Maybe the team gets the same number of points, but you will have less fun doing so - that counts as an impact in my books.
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If Someone Is flaming you, telling that you should off yourself and everything BUT they're still playing well they're doing nothing negative in regards of the game.
Especially since you can Always mute the guy! You can't mute Someone f... | Potatussus26 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I hate DYELS who care about who is natty or not
Seriously I hate these Dyels so much not only are they too lazy train they are also weak as fuck. They care way too much about who is natty or not. Which just stupid these dyels could go on the same steroid cycle as Arnold and train, eat and sleep exactly the same a... | Why do you care so much about other people working out?
Just go to the gym, get your exercises in, and go home. Hating on other people going about their day is a waste of effort.
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I don't hate people who don't workout. What I hate is when some people who don't workout care about who is not natty or not. If they... | Your name is "trenyearround" and you're 100% natty? Doubt.
I also know you've had several posts removed here already for rule B violations, but on the off chance you are earnestly here to change your view and not just rant, what are "dyels" and how do you know they are too lazy to train/are weak as fuck?
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I. My ... | 183lgnu | CMV: I hate DYELS who care about who is natty or not | Seriously I hate these Dyels so much not only are they too lazy train they are also weak as fuck. They care way too much about who is natty or not. Which just stupid these dyels could go on the same steroid cycle as Arnold and train, eat and sleep exactly the same as he did and they still won't look like Arnold because... | TRENYEARROUND | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Translators will be replaced by AI in the next 5-10 years
First of all, I know there's what I call "AI optimists" and "AI pessimists". Some people who think AI is taking over by next year while others think no jobs will replaced until 2040. I like to see myself as in the middle and I don't think that many jobs wi... | > So if free tools can do that it's not a stretch to imagine there's already way better paid tools. So I don't see why a company or even government would want to retain translators for most things.
One of the main issues here is the existence of so-called** low-resource languages**: AI-based translation engines heavil... | >CMV: Translators will be replaced by AI in the next 5-10 years
Haven't you undermined your position by pushing so many caveats:
>...I like to see myself as in the middle and I don't think that many jobs will be replaced soon.....
>....But even if I'm wrong in the best case books would still be translated by humans... | 183jp8m | CMV: Translators will be replaced by AI in the next 5-10 years | First of all, I know there's what I call "AI optimists" and "AI pessimists". Some people who think AI is taking over by next year while others think no jobs will replaced until 2040. I like to see myself as in the middle and I don't think that many jobs will be replaced soon.
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CMV: African culture lacks compatibility with modern civilisation.
Hey, first time posting here. I hope I'm not making any mistakes.
I was born and raised in South Africa, as a result of this I've seen and heard disturbing things when it comes to ethnic Africans.
My family generally dislikes people of colour because... | >Africans however.. to my knowledge have never had a great civilisation.
Surely Egypt, at the very least, qualifies as a "great civilization."
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Yes, but egypt did not belong to africans of colour.
I would place egypt under middle eastern.
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How about Mali? Songhai? Nubia? Axum? Great Zimbabwe?
What if our l... | > Africans however.. to my knowledge have never had a great civilisation.
You atleast have heard of Egyptians but there were also the Empire of Carthage, Numidia aswell as dozens other that came after those empires fell.
The problem is that people are just not aware of African History and their empires, this does not... | le34d7 | CMV: African culture lacks compatibility with modern civilisation. | Hey, first time posting here. I hope I'm not making any mistakes.
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CMV: Being A Parent Is Or Causes A Mental Illness
I am a twenty something with no children, but the way parenthood is depicted in media and by those in the real world makes me think it is or causes a mental illness.
The most compelling reason for this is the willingness of a parent to sacrifice themself for their ch... | > When their child’s life is threatened, parents seem to beg and pray to be “taken” instead, which is a suicidal tendency.
Parents don’t say that because they want to die, they same that because they want their child to live. If one of them are going to die, of course the parents would want their child to be one to li... | Consider looking at the parent-child relationship through the lense of basic biology:
All life forms have a biological imperative to reproduce (that is, to ensure that their genes continue). Humans serve that imperative by having children.
From a biological perspective, all of life led up to the moment of having a ch... | nr3p47 | CMV: Being A Parent Is Or Causes A Mental Illness | I am a twenty something with no children, but the way parenthood is depicted in media and by those in the real world makes me think it is or causes a mental illness.
The most compelling reason for this is the willingness of a parent to sacrifice themself for their child, particularly in life or death situations. When... | CapableRunts | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Asians are excluded from far left politics because they undermine the left's political narrative.
First of all, let me explain what I mean by "far left," because political terms like this are too ambiguous to leave undefined. By far left, I mean the movement of politics which advocates intersectionality, and beli... | > It's been my experience that people who espouse far left ideas despise Asians just as much if not more than White people.
I'm literally as far left as one can go, and I don't despise either of those groups of people. Are you committing a reverse apex fallacy?
Also, intersectionality demands that we accept that "As... | Umm what? Let's just look at the Democratic Senators since that's a small enough group to break down, just 48 people
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Mazie Hirono, Tammy Duckworth, Kamala Harris
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Bob Menedez, Catherine Cortez Masto
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Kamala Harris, Cory Booker
Asians are best represented of these minority group... | 9j8jt0 | CMV: Asians are excluded from far left politics because they undermine the left's political narrative. | First of all, let me explain what I mean by "far left," because political terms like this are too ambiguous to leave undefined. By far left, I mean the movement of politics which advocates intersectionality, and believe in the Marxist principle that capitalist society is most fundamentally composed of a ruling class ex... | AIseias | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: At-will employment should not apply to employers
As many of you may know, employment at will is the concept that either the employee or employer can terminate employment anytime for any reason; a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason at all.
This needs major reform, and it should not be a state-by-state bas... | I mean under ur system I would def purposefully get fired every few months and just hangout
Seems like u are mostly concerned with the person being financially ruined, and don't actually care what grounds people are fired on. In which case, it doesn't make much of a difference if its at will or not. Just need solid u... | >Each termination should be reviewed by the same bureau that handles unemployment. When an employer lets an employee go, there needs to be sufficient documentation/evidence that justifies why the employee was let go.
That would cause a crazy amount of inefficiency. As much as it sucks, companies have to do layoffs som... | zpt8jc | CMV: At-will employment should not apply to employers |
As many of you may know, employment at will is the concept that either the employee or employer can terminate employment anytime for any reason; a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason at all.
This needs major reform, and it should not be a state-by-state basis issue. This should be universal, maybe even internat... | BONERR4EVER | 11 | 10 | [
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CMV: Adultery should be a crime/civil offense
This post was inspired from some news from India and is also my first CMV. I believe that since marriage is a legislated relationship or legal contract, breaking this contract should be a crime or have some civil recourse for the other party within the contract.
I don't ... | Breaking a contract doesn’t typically have a criminal consequence. There is a court established to resolve the termination of marriages.
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Right, but as said in the post, I would also accept punitive actions against the party that commits adultery in such a court, and it in itself should be warrant a penalty of so... | Can you point out where in the marriage license (the contract) where it says who you are allowed to sleep with? If not then it's not explicitly in the contract and seems hard to consider it "breaking the contract". I don't see how it's any different than any other reason to get a divorce, since most marriages don't hav... | 9jg5eq | CMV: Adultery should be a crime/civil offense | This post was inspired from some news from India and is also my first CMV. I believe that since marriage is a legislated relationship or legal contract, breaking this contract should be a crime or have some civil recourse for the other party within the contract.
I don't believe this is akin to a simple "dick move" as... | TheRRainMaker | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: vegan cat food should be illegal to manufacture
This stuff is detrimental to cats’ health over time. It provides insufficient nourishment of taurine in particular. While taurine can be manufactured ethically, a cat cannot properly absorb taurine from plant foods. A cat is an obligate carnivore.
Vegan cat food ... | We don't even make food for _people_ illegal when it is detrimental to human health over time. So why is it reasonable to do this for cats? The government does not have an interest in maintaining the health of cats that overrides all other rights and interests that might exist here.
---
It would be illegal to manufac... | >It provides insufficient nourishment of taurine in particular. While taurine can be manufactured ethically, a cat cannot properly absorb taurine from plant foods.
Taurine can be created artificially, synthesized using chemical reactions. It's already (fairly widely) used to supplement taurine in formulations that mi... | 1eve1et | CMV: vegan cat food should be illegal to manufacture | This stuff is detrimental to cats’ health over time. It provides insufficient nourishment of taurine in particular. While taurine can be manufactured ethically, a cat cannot properly absorb taurine from plant foods. A cat is an obligate carnivore.
Vegan cat food is no different than the tasteless, nutrient free food ... | GetLichOrDieCrying | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Evolutionary perspective on hyper-metabolism
We all have at least one friend who seems to be able to eat ungodly amounts of any type of food and still never gain a pound. The phenomenon of these high metabolisers always fascinated me and I often wondered how that 'gift' fairs from the standpoint of evolution.
It... | Skinny people actually have lower metabolism than fat people. They just eat less. There is no mystery.
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Some or even most, yes. But I personally know people who eat twice as much as a normal person, loads of fast food and candy, don't do sports, nor a highly active job, and remain slender.
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No you dont. Unl... | Metabolism isn't a constant thing. Depending on the situation, your energy requirements can drop dramatically as your body conservs/spends energy depending on the situation. For example a little daily exercise can often increase your metabolic rate even after your actual exercise is done. Similarly, during states of hu... | 6b9vui | CMV: Evolutionary perspective on hyper-metabolism | We all have at least one friend who seems to be able to eat ungodly amounts of any type of food and still never gain a pound. The phenomenon of these high metabolisers always fascinated me and I often wondered how that 'gift' fairs from the standpoint of evolution.
It seems that people who are unable to form any fat d... | LivelyWallflower | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Evolutionary perspective on hyper-metabolism
We all have at least one friend who seems to be able to eat ungodly amounts of any type of food and still never gain a pound. The phenomenon of these high metabolisers always fascinated me and I often wondered how that 'gift' fairs from the standpoint of evolution.
It... | Skinny people actually have lower metabolism than fat people. They just eat less. There is no mystery.
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Some or even most, yes. But I personally know people who eat twice as much as a normal person, loads of fast food and candy, don't do sports, nor a highly active job, and remain slender.
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No you dont. Unl... | Metabolism isn't a constant thing. Depending on the situation, your energy requirements can drop dramatically as your body conservs/spends energy depending on the situation. For example a little daily exercise can often increase your metabolic rate even after your actual exercise is done. Similarly, during states of hu... | 6b9vui | CMV: Evolutionary perspective on hyper-metabolism | We all have at least one friend who seems to be able to eat ungodly amounts of any type of food and still never gain a pound. The phenomenon of these high metabolisers always fascinated me and I often wondered how that 'gift' fairs from the standpoint of evolution.
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | Not sure that there's any practical method of doing away with political parties that wouldn't require repealing the 1st Amendment. That seems like too great a cost.
One practical measure to fight thoughtless partisanship might be removing party identifiers from ballots. Pressuring news organizations to stop putting an... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
---
I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I registered to vote through my friend, he was one of those ppl that ask you to register to vote. He asked if I... | iracilv7307 | 6 | 6 | [
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | Not sure that there's any practical method of doing away with political parties that wouldn't require repealing the 1st Amendment. That seems like too great a cost.
One practical measure to fight thoughtless partisanship might be removing party identifiers from ballots. Pressuring news organizations to stop putting an... | So how are you going to stop people who largely agree with each other politically from cooperating with each other?
The US constitution doesn't mention parties because the founders didn't want political parties to be a big thing. However it turned out that within a few years, people started making alliances all the ti... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I registered to vote through my friend, he was one of those ppl that ask you to register to vote. He asked if I... | iracilv7307 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | >He asked if I could register to vote as a republican, so my friend would get commission.
Uhh... What? That's a thing that happens? Also isn't it kind of pointless since votes are anonymous anyway?
Now for your main post. Even if you remove formal political parties, informal political parties will still exist.
Let's... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
---
I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I registered to vote through my friend, he was one of those ppl that ask you to register to vote. He asked if I... | iracilv7307 | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | >He asked if I could register to vote as a republican, so my friend would get commission.
Uhh... What? That's a thing that happens? Also isn't it kind of pointless since votes are anonymous anyway?
Now for your main post. Even if you remove formal political parties, informal political parties will still exist.
Let's... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
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I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | >He asked if I could register to vote as a republican, so my friend would get commission.
Uhh... What? That's a thing that happens? Also isn't it kind of pointless since votes are anonymous anyway?
Now for your main post. Even if you remove formal political parties, informal political parties will still exist.
Let's... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
---
I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I registered to vote through my friend, he was one of those ppl that ask you to register to vote. He asked if I... | iracilv7307 | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
---
I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | So how are you going to stop people who largely agree with each other politically from cooperating with each other?
The US constitution doesn't mention parties because the founders didn't want political parties to be a big thing. However it turned out that within a few years, people started making alliances all the ti... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I registered to vote through my friend, he was one of those ppl that ask you to register to vote. He asked if I... | iracilv7307 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
---
I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | Not sure that there's any practical method of doing away with political parties that wouldn't require repealing the 1st Amendment. That seems like too great a cost.
One practical measure to fight thoughtless partisanship might be removing party identifiers from ballots. Pressuring news organizations to stop putting an... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
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I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | >He asked if I could register to vote as a republican, so my friend would get commission.
Uhh... What? That's a thing that happens? Also isn't it kind of pointless since votes are anonymous anyway?
Now for your main post. Even if you remove formal political parties, informal political parties will still exist.
Let's... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
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Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
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I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | So how are you going to stop people who largely agree with each other politically from cooperating with each other?
The US constitution doesn't mention parties because the founders didn't want political parties to be a big thing. However it turned out that within a few years, people started making alliances all the ti... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | So how are you going to stop people who largely agree with each other politically from cooperating with each other?
The US constitution doesn't mention parties because the founders didn't want political parties to be a big thing. However it turned out that within a few years, people started making alliances all the ti... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
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I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
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CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals.
Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
Background: When I was 18 in college, I register... | So how are you going to stop people who largely agree with each other politically from cooperating with each other?
The US constitution doesn't mention parties because the founders didn't want political parties to be a big thing. However it turned out that within a few years, people started making alliances all the ti... | I don’t really know how you would prevent parties reappearing as likeminded individuals band together to get things done and then organise longer term alliances?
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I’m ok with likeminded individuals getting together, but it’s the labels and the formal titles I have an issue with. For a random person not well versed... | iwlfiq | CMV: I think all political parties should be done away with and people should vote for individuals. | Apparently my opinion isn’t very popular, but all the reasons I’ve been given why my opinion is “wrong” has been weak (it’s always been like this, it’s easier to choose)
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CMV: I (26M) have sound reasoning for not getting the vaccine, and I don’t see why others in my situation should have to get it either.
Alright I’m done replying. Thank you everyone for your posts.
**My takeaways:**
+ I had not thought about all the people who simply cannot get the vaccine, due to medical or other r... | These are reasons why you might not personally need to worry about Covid, not why you shouldn't get vaccinated. And the reasons you give are no different than your typical antimasker or antivax person.
You have no idea that state if your immune system or antibodies. You will be interacting with people outside of your ... | >**1) We don’t know the long term effects.**
When vaccines have adverse effects, they [nearly always](https://www.chop.edu/news/long-term-side-effects-covid-19-vaccine) occur within 2 months of taking them. While it's theoretically possible that *you* could experience long-term effects that have gone undiscovered in t... | n4l5rz | CMV: I (26M) have sound reasoning for not getting the vaccine, and I don’t see why others in my situation should have to get it either. | Alright I’m done replying. Thank you everyone for your posts.
**My takeaways:**
+ I had not thought about all the people who simply cannot get the vaccine, due to medical or other reasons.
+ I have a better understanding of the normal 10-15 year vaccine process and how we’re following the same process (currently on P... | picklerick_bitch | 4 | 4 | [
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CMV: I (26M) have sound reasoning for not getting the vaccine, and I don’t see why others in my situation should have to get it either.
Alright I’m done replying. Thank you everyone for your posts.
**My takeaways:**
+ I had not thought about all the people who simply cannot get the vaccine, due to medical or other r... | If you don't believe the Covid vaccines are safe and effective at preventing the contraction of the disease, for you or your loved ones, then there's little evidence I could provide to convince you.
However, I'd like to know what specific long-term effect you believe vaccination threatens? Contraction of covid? Death... | These are reasons why you might not personally need to worry about Covid, not why you shouldn't get vaccinated. And the reasons you give are no different than your typical antimasker or antivax person.
You have no idea that state if your immune system or antibodies. You will be interacting with people outside of your ... | n4l5rz | CMV: I (26M) have sound reasoning for not getting the vaccine, and I don’t see why others in my situation should have to get it either. | Alright I’m done replying. Thank you everyone for your posts.
**My takeaways:**
+ I had not thought about all the people who simply cannot get the vaccine, due to medical or other reasons.
+ I have a better understanding of the normal 10-15 year vaccine process and how we’re following the same process (currently on P... | picklerick_bitch | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: All forms of art are propaganda
It is a idea that has recently popped into my mind, and it kinda off distress me.
Basically, art and propaganda are both the same thing, in the sense that both art and propaganda use your emotions to convey a message, and are capable of changing your behaviour or framework by exp... | So the definition of propaganda is “information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.”
Not all art is political. They often share perspectives, but not in the same way as propaganda. To say all art is propaganda is like saying that all... | This reasoning is just formally invalid. Just because both X and Y do Z, doesn't mean that all X is Y. (In this case, just because "both art and propaganda use your emotions to convey a message" doesn't mean that all art is propaganda.)
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unless the definition of set Y is if a does Z, then a belongs in set Y.
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... | zpcrdk | CMV: All forms of art are propaganda | It is a idea that has recently popped into my mind, and it kinda off distress me.
Basically, art and propaganda are both the same thing, in the sense that both art and propaganda use your emotions to convey a message, and are capable of changing your behaviour or framework by experiencing the artwork.
This way of t... | Arthorius16 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: All forms of art are propaganda
It is a idea that has recently popped into my mind, and it kinda off distress me.
Basically, art and propaganda are both the same thing, in the sense that both art and propaganda use your emotions to convey a message, and are capable of changing your behaviour or framework by exp... | Please tell me then, [what are these images trying to say](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test#/media/File:Rorschach_blot_01.jpg)?
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Do you think the Rorschach test could be classified as art? (I am not being cynnical, i swear, i just want to understand your point)
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You said ALL forms of art which imp... | So the definition of propaganda is “information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.”
Not all art is political. They often share perspectives, but not in the same way as propaganda. To say all art is propaganda is like saying that all... | zpcrdk | CMV: All forms of art are propaganda | It is a idea that has recently popped into my mind, and it kinda off distress me.
Basically, art and propaganda are both the same thing, in the sense that both art and propaganda use your emotions to convey a message, and are capable of changing your behaviour or framework by experiencing the artwork.
This way of t... | Arthorius16 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Han Solo's views on the Force and Jedi as expressed during Luke's training on board the Millennium Falcon is reasonable even though he was alive during the time of the Republic.
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
It has been argued that it is ridiculous that ... | >Given the size of the SW galaxy and the number of Jedi, it is reasonable to assume most people didn't ever see a Jedi in person. And if they did, the Jedi philosophy suggests they probably wouldn't have seen any flashy displays of ability.
The level of technology that societies in Star Wars have (which includes holog... | The Jedi had existed for thousands of years in the Republic. They had temples built to them and were invovled in a number of matters of Republic business (as evidenced by Quigon and Obiwan in Ep I). It was common for gifted children to be taken from parents of every planet in the Republic and sent away to Jedi traini... | 6atqwx | CMV: Han Solo's views on the Force and Jedi as expressed during Luke's training on board the Millennium Falcon is reasonable even though he was alive during the time of the Republic. | "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
It has been argued that it is ridiculous that Han would say such a thing when he was alive during the time of the Jedi. I disagree.
Given the size of the SW galaxy and the number of Jedi, it is reasonable to assume most people di... | paul_aka_paul | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: "People can change" is not used and understood correctly.
Before I start, I want to say that we are talking about people changing and realizing themselves, I am not considering them changing with outside help. I am also consider this for "normal people." There are mental illnesses that of course makes it so someo... | People always change. Every minute of every day you are at least a little bit different than you were before. Staying 100 percent exactly the same for any extended period, isn't physically possible.
So people can change for the better, people can change for the worse, people can change in morally neutral ways, but it... | [deleted]
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Well you nailed my point really looking at it both ways. It's a possibility, but that's just it. With varying levels of self-awareness and self-improvement if chosen to try to do that, you can't bet one way or the other. | jcv1df | CMV: "People can change" is not used and understood correctly. | Before I start, I want to say that we are talking about people changing and realizing themselves, I am not considering them changing with outside help. I am also consider this for "normal people." There are mental illnesses that of course makes it so someone is incapable of changing.
I've noticed when it comes to this... | Seava-man | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Being overly inclusive is a bad thing
I've noticed a trend in the last decade of creators trying to be inclusive by adding or making characters who are viewed as a minority in real life. They might be gay, trans, have a mental disorder, etc.
Now don't get me wrong, this by itself is not bad. What bothers me is w... | >What bothers me is when they do it and there is either no point to it or they become a token character because of it
Question - what is the "point" of being a minority in real life?
Sometimes people are just people. They just exist and they are there.
Sometimes it's important to just include people anyway. Their ra... | [deleted]
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The former two. If all a characters point in being added to a work is to be a token minority you'd best make them work or else it will come across as patronizing.
As I said, being inclusive is not bad. Being *overly* inclusive is.
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[deleted] | m4wvzi | CMV: Being overly inclusive is a bad thing | I've noticed a trend in the last decade of creators trying to be inclusive by adding or making characters who are viewed as a minority in real life. They might be gay, trans, have a mental disorder, etc.
Now don't get me wrong, this by itself is not bad. What bothers me is when they do it and there is either no point ... | sifsand | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: America's standards for Movie ratings and Television censorship wrongfully prioritizes sexuality over violence in deciding what should be deemed 'not suitable for children'.
I believe that our perception of what will effect our children and how it will affect them is deeply rooted in America's puritanical history... | It's a lot harder for a kid to do violent things as compared to sexual things, especially the sort of violent things that end up on TV.
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Is it? How can you prove this?
If I'm 7 years old- is it easier for me to find a girl to have sex with, or to just grab a knife from the kitchen to play-fight with my brother? ... | Sex is more likely to be an actual reality for most people than violence is, particularly when they are depictions of severe situations of violence. Life-threatening violence is for the vast majority of people both something that never even gets resorted to and when it does, something with a significant enough motive t... | 8xmh3v | CMV: America's standards for Movie ratings and Television censorship wrongfully prioritizes sexuality over violence in deciding what should be deemed 'not suitable for children'. | I believe that our perception of what will effect our children and how it will affect them is deeply rooted in America's puritanical history.
But times have changed and the standards for what should be considered 'appropriate' have changed too.
I don't know if there is any objective way to explicitly determine what ... | I_Am_Wil | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Religion is a primitive concept that should no longer have a place in modern society
I think that religion is just a way for people to explain and cope with events such as death and natural disasters and to give their lives meaning as well as feel a part of something.
The fact that some people truly believe in t... | Religion, when not taken to extremes, can be one of many reasons that allow people to better themselves and give purpose to life. It is not necessary, and is incorrect if it gives credence to the supernatural, but can be useful.
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I believe spirituality does exactly the same thing without any of these primitive ide... | > I think that religion is just a way for people to explain and cope with events such as death and natural disasters and to give their lives meaning as well as feel a part of something.
Honestly, what part of that is unimportant in this day and age? Processing grief, finding meaning and self-fulfillment, being part of... | 7w4nid | CMV: Religion is a primitive concept that should no longer have a place in modern society | I think that religion is just a way for people to explain and cope with events such as death and natural disasters and to give their lives meaning as well as feel a part of something.
The fact that some people truly believe in these religious scriptures and for the most part don't question them, prey to a god that the... | dopethethird | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Religion is a primitive concept that should no longer have a place in modern society
I think that religion is just a way for people to explain and cope with events such as death and natural disasters and to give their lives meaning as well as feel a part of something.
The fact that some people truly believe in t... | Religion, when not taken to extremes, can be one of many reasons that allow people to better themselves and give purpose to life. It is not necessary, and is incorrect if it gives credence to the supernatural, but can be useful.
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Honestly, what part of that is unimportant in this day and age? Processing grief, finding meaning and self-fulfillment, being part of... | 7w4nid | CMV: Religion is a primitive concept that should no longer have a place in modern society | I think that religion is just a way for people to explain and cope with events such as death and natural disasters and to give their lives meaning as well as feel a part of something.
The fact that some people truly believe in these religious scriptures and for the most part don't question them, prey to a god that the... | dopethethird | 7 | 7 | [
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CMV: Bathroom stalls should go all the way down, and have no gaps in the doors.
I hate, hate, hate, AND ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HATE bathroom stalls. About 50% of the time the stalls are way too far off the ground and have gaps between the door and the wall 100% of the time. I was in a stall the other day that had ONE INCH... | My first thought was cleanliness. It is way easier to keep the floor -and in fact every surface- clean when it is one, continuous surface with a drain in its lowest spot.
As far as privacy goes, it is waaay easier to see if the stall is occupied if there is a gap in the door. Do you want to deal with nosy children ... | If the door gets stuck, how would you get out? Just bang on it loudly until somebody comes in? Better hope there's not a fire ...
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!delta
Good point! But this could go with any room/building with a door though couldn't it?
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You could straight up see people clea... | 321741185 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Bankruptcy Laws in the United States should be Amended to Permit the Discharge of Student Loan Debt Five Years After Graduation For Government Guaranteed Loans and Immediately for Private, Non-Government Guaranteed Loans
In the United States there is over $1.4 trillion of outstanding student loan debt. This debt... | What would be the incentive for a private company to offer a student loan if that loan was immediately dischargeable via bankruptcy?
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The same incentive as there is for making any private loan.
Banks assess ability to pay. For students going to reputable schools with good prospects for employment on graduation ... | The sole reason I am against this is regardless of how long you force them to wait, allowing student loan debt to be discharged will cause banks to be much more cautious on who they approve the loans for. Meaning only the wealthy with parents who banks are confident will have the ability to payback the loans will be ab... | 8x1vf6 | CMV: Bankruptcy Laws in the United States should be Amended to Permit the Discharge of Student Loan Debt Five Years After Graduation For Government Guaranteed Loans and Immediately for Private, Non-Government Guaranteed Loans | In the United States there is over $1.4 trillion of outstanding student loan debt. This debt is, essentially, non-dischargeable in bankruptcy. The existing legal standard requires that a borrower prove what one court called a “certainty of hopelessness” — some combination of medical disabilities and advanced age or ... | SamtenLhari | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: The best underwear is clothing that can serve as both underwear and outerwear primarily.
Clothing that can serve the function of under/outerwear represents savings in cost, expansion of choice in wardrobe, and a reduction in the demands of modesty. Admittedly the benefits largely accrue to females, but the restri... | The main point of underwear is to extend the time you can wear your outerwear without washing them, thus extending the life of your outerwear. Surely replacing a relatively small piece of fabric is more cost effective and less wasteful than replacing a large piece of fabric, and washing many small pieces of clothing an... | "Reducing demanded modesty" is not a function of clothing. You put on the clothes first, before anyone can even observe any immodesty. Clothing functions to communicate your modesty, or immodesty in the case of your self indulgent combination underwear/outerwear
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CMV: It’s not racist for white people (specifically white Americans) to have a culture and to be proud
Many different people connect with each other through their culture and ethnicities so why is it different for white people? It’s assumed to be different because in history white people have been dominantly oppressiv... | It seems to me like you're don't have a very clear grasp of what the people you disagree with actually think. It feels like you've mish-mashed a number of things together.
Generally, when people say that there is no 'white culture' in the United States, they aren't delivering some kind of punishment. They idea isn't ... | There's no such thing as a white ethnicity or culture. There's Irish, Italian, German, British, Irish, Swedish, French, etc. etc. ethnicity and culture, and it's totally fine when people express pride for that background. At some point in history, many of these ethnicities were not even considered "white".
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So the... | 1lo1h2x | CMV: It’s not racist for white people (specifically white Americans) to have a culture and to be proud | Many different people connect with each other through their culture and ethnicities so why is it different for white people? It’s assumed to be different because in history white people have been dominantly oppressive so their culture usually came at the expense of others but this is not how it is today. While I like t... | Panda7001 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The only way the left wing can ever win again in Australia is if we apologise for our missteps and stop blaming Murdoch for all our failures.
Here are the missteps that I think we need to own up to and apologise for:
* Every ALP leader seems to be a trade union apparatchik. We need to apologise for this misstep ... | What "blaming" is there in case of Murdoch? I mean, it would be silly to think that we need to stop one person from publishing bad things and then everything would be alright, but I never really see anyone making that point.
It is however undeniable that:
a) Big media companies have gigantic influence on the public... | I'm not sure if the stuff you're saying are missteps actually are.
The JG quote? Entirely accurate. The broken promise that wasn't actually broken. Why black out the second part? That's the important bit. Why perpetuate a lie? Especially now, since the coalition is implicitly admitting they were wrong about climate c... | qiy2gc | CMV: The only way the left wing can ever win again in Australia is if we apologise for our missteps and stop blaming Murdoch for all our failures. | Here are the missteps that I think we need to own up to and apologise for:
* Every ALP leader seems to be a trade union apparatchik. We need to apologise for this misstep and focus on having the ALP draw from left wing average joes, not well-connected union bosses.
* Julia Gillard is still widely hated for the Carbon ... | Real_Carl_Ramirez | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: America was just as bad as the USSR
America used manipulation and espionage to destabilize a country, sewed racial tension among the people, committed genocide on Native Americans, stole from the poor, and have used war to get what they want(Iraq/Afghanistan).
Not to mention slavery, racism, etc.
USSR sent mill... | >America used manipulation and espionage to destabilize a country
So just like the USSR?
>sewed racial tension among the people,
That was the British actually.
>committed genocide on Native Americans
That was for the most part the Spanish, British, and French.
>stole from the poor,
I agree taxation is theft. ... | [To quote John F. Kennedy](https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/berlin-w-germany-rudolph-wilde-platz-19630626#:~:text=Freedom%20has%20many%20difficulties%20and,prevent%20them%20from%20leaving%20us):
>Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect, but we have never [h... | zotfz8 | CMV: America was just as bad as the USSR | America used manipulation and espionage to destabilize a country, sewed racial tension among the people, committed genocide on Native Americans, stole from the poor, and have used war to get what they want(Iraq/Afghanistan).
Not to mention slavery, racism, etc.
USSR sent millions to the gulags, killed thousands of Uk... | MathematicianAny2143 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: WWII Era Canada Could Defeat Modern Canada
The CDN army lately has been desperately underfunded which led me to this thought experiment and war game: who would win in an all out fight? World War Two era Canada or the modern country with its technological advances? My opinion is it would turn into trench warfare i... | Are you actually arguing if a country on a military footing during a major world war would defeat a country who currently isn't facing a world war.
Yes.
They would borrow far more advanced weaponry from their allies and win the field. What is a WW 2 fighter going to do against drones? Or attack helicopters. Or fig... | What a fun thought experiment. But I think you are underestimating what a modern airpower would do to a WWII army, even if there is only roughly 100 combat aircraft.
Both the Hornets and the Auroras would be essentially invulnerable and they can focus on cutting off some completely key commodity of the WWIIs - e.g. ... | 1ev2h5u | CMV: WWII Era Canada Could Defeat Modern Canada | The CDN army lately has been desperately underfunded which led me to this thought experiment and war game: who would win in an all out fight? World War Two era Canada or the modern country with its technological advances? My opinion is it would turn into trench warfare in little time and there would be no victor.
Here... | Redrolum | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: A US military intervention in Syria will likely lead to nuclear war
Trump's intervention in Syria is a game-changing event for Putin. The cyberattacks during the 2016 election were meant to destabilise the USA and reduce it's foreign policy influence. Aggressive foreign policy action will put extraordinary geopol... | It could, but what's been done so far won't. This was the US essentially slapping Assad on the wrist for using chemical weapons. It didn't even really inconvenience operations out of the airbase that was hit. It's if President Trump does more that the possibility of conflict with Russia becomes more real.
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I'm not sure if the USSR or Russia was ever as vulnerable to diplomacy as Russia would be if it lost its influence in Syria. Foreign policy wise Putin would be neutered, something that never happened to the USSR.
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[deleted] | 64lmpa | CMV: A US military intervention in Syria will likely lead to nuclear war | Trump's intervention in Syria is a game-changing event for Putin. The cyberattacks during the 2016 election were meant to destabilise the USA and reduce it's foreign policy influence. Aggressive foreign policy action will put extraordinary geopolitical pressure on Putin.
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CMV: A US military intervention in Syria will likely lead to nuclear war
Trump's intervention in Syria is a game-changing event for Putin. The cyberattacks during the 2016 election were meant to destabilise the USA and reduce it's foreign policy influence. Aggressive foreign policy action will put extraordinary geopol... | Ok so main the about M.A.D. is the Assured. I don't really see any evidence for why Putin would be ok with destroying the world for Syria.
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I'm not sure if the USSR or Russia was ever as vulnerable to diplomacy as Russia would be if it lost its influence in Syria. Foreign policy wise Putin would be neutered, something that never happened to the USSR.
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[deleted] | 64lmpa | CMV: A US military intervention in Syria will likely lead to nuclear war | Trump's intervention in Syria is a game-changing event for Putin. The cyberattacks during the 2016 election were meant to destabilise the USA and reduce it's foreign policy influence. Aggressive foreign policy action will put extraordinary geopolitical pressure on Putin.
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CMV: Minorities shouldn’t get special treatment due to their predecessors being oppressed.
Growing up in Oklahoma, the main minority that gets benefits based on ethnicity is Native Americans. There’s Indian education, where as long as your registered as a Native, you participated in special events, some related to the... | Think of it as a lucky investment. If their ancestors had been native to somewhere like Nicaragua, they wouldn't have gotten much if anything today. It's not fair, but it's no less fair than the fact that some other guy might be rich because an ancestor of his bought a plot of land for a few dollars in the 1700s before... | Native Americans are not getting things "due to their ancestors being oppressed." They're getting things as a member of sovereign nations that made treaties with the US government, which were pretty much constantly broken, and because their tribes sovereignly own businesses like casinos which subsidize their lives. You... | 8xnzt5 | CMV: Minorities shouldn’t get special treatment due to their predecessors being oppressed. | Growing up in Oklahoma, the main minority that gets benefits based on ethnicity is Native Americans. There’s Indian education, where as long as your registered as a Native, you participated in special events, some related to their culture, most events were not, and the students were given items just for passing a test.... | Spykey75 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I’m the only person that exists in this reality, the rest of you are just NPCs.
The only experience that I’m 100% aware of is my own personal one . There’s no quantifiable way for anyone to know if others exist outside of their experience because we could all be programmed into a reality like NPCs in a video game... | Or are you just an NPC with delusions of grandeur?
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Perhaps, sometimes I can’t tell whether my mind is controlling my body, or my body just does what it wants and I’m just a passenger watching.
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This is interesting as I think this is why you believe we are NPCs.
IMO, "you" are a self aware feedback protocol ... | Ok than, go outside and shoot someone.
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Just because I’m the only one who exists wouldn’t mean the simulation wouldn’t have negative consequences for my actions.
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CMV: We should implement harsher punishments for certain crimes.
I don’t get the satisfaction of seeing murderers locked in a cell for a large portion of their life. I literally just watched a video that took place in court about this dad talking to a murderer that took 17 lives in a school shooting, including this d... | What happens when innocent people get convicted? You can't undo death, but you can release a prisoner.
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100% true but I’m talking about like proved criminals. Sorry I didn’t state that, 100% my bad but if there no slither of doubt or even remorse from them in court then I believe they deserve what I mentioned abov... | My general goal with policy is I want to reduce harm, increase joy. I also believe the vast majority of people can be reformed given the appropriate time, therapy, etc. Therefore I don’t find it justifiable to torture people. It is better morally in my eyes to make reform efforts so they can be reintroduced into societ... | 1ev34kb | CMV: We should implement harsher punishments for certain crimes. | I don’t get the satisfaction of seeing murderers locked in a cell for a large portion of their life. I literally just watched a video that took place in court about this dad talking to a murderer that took 17 lives in a school shooting, including this dads daughter. It was frankly heartbreaking and disgusting to even i... | No_Fisherman9089 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Pilot G2 Gel Pens Are Best Pen Out There For The Money
I think **Pilot G2 Gel Pens** are the best pens that you can get for the money. I have used a G2 almost every single day for more than ten years now. They are precise. They are smooth. I have never had one dry up. I normally lose them before they run out... | Pilot Precise V5 RT. Similar writing style but much sleeker and elegant to write with.
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Look, I have tried all kinds of pens and the G2 is my favorite but I have NEVER been disappointed in any Pilot pen, ever. Imma check this out.
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Check out TUL as well! They’re my fav! | Before I recommend any specific models, have you ever used a fountain pen? You can get one for about the price of a box of G2s and it will outlast multiple boxes.
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Problem there for OP is the statement that they lose the pens before they run out of ink.
Fountain pens are a higher up front cost (not that much, tru... | rtxqhw | CMV: Pilot G2 Gel Pens Are Best Pen Out There For The Money | I think **Pilot G2 Gel Pens** are the best pens that you can get for the money. I have used a G2 almost every single day for more than ten years now. They are precise. They are smooth. I have never had one dry up. I normally lose them before they run out of ink or break. Right now, you can get 5 of them for $6 on... | dtd20191 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: National Service should be reintroduced
A while ago in my country (UK) there was some talk about reintroducing national service. While mostly everyone thought it was a terrible idea, I personally support it and think it should be reintroduced for a few reasons:
1. Let's be real, war is no longer a far-fetched id... | >Let's be real, war is no longer a far-fetched idea but something we could see very soon, national service would ensure we have enkguh trained manpower to fight if a conflict arises
In general, these kind of short term recruits are considered pretty useless for military service. They're expensive, and ineffective.
>I... | In any reasonable scenarios, the war would happen reasonably far away from the UK that there would be time to train new troops, unlike Finland or South Korea immediately bordering a hostile power. The UK just needs to focus on sea and air power.
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Yeah, like I said the recruits can choose to serve in the Navy or RA... | 1euel0d | CMV: National Service should be reintroduced | A while ago in my country (UK) there was some talk about reintroducing national service. While mostly everyone thought it was a terrible idea, I personally support it and think it should be reintroduced for a few reasons:
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CMV: Men's rights are just as important as women's and should be promoted as such
As a woman, I agree 100% with the original definition of feminism, as it is meant to promote equality between genders. I know there are plenty of issues that feminists believe in, one of these being the pay gap, and I do agree that women... | Are you talking about people who actually do stuff, or just about the folks who argue about feminism and men's rights on the internet?
Here's an eye opening exercise: Hop on google scholar and do a search for some men's rights issue. Pick a few papers, maybe read the abstracts, then go to the list of people who worked... | As a man, I don’t see any unifying issue that connects the various issues MRAs care about. They seem to be a series of problems that effect men with no bigger fundamental problem below them.
Like, with feminists, there’s the big umbrella: women are disenfranchised, erases, and dehumanized in most contexts in western s... | hud1nf | CMV: Men's rights are just as important as women's and should be promoted as such | As a woman, I agree 100% with the original definition of feminism, as it is meant to promote equality between genders. I know there are plenty of issues that feminists believe in, one of these being the pay gap, and I do agree that women and men should be paid equally for the same job.
Some feminists use the fact that... | tragicsincerity | 3 | 3 | [
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As a woman, I agree 100% with the original definition of feminism, as it is meant to promote equality between genders. I know there are plenty of issues that feminists believe in, one of these being the pay gap, and I do agree that women... | I agree that there are issues on the men's rights platforms that need more attention, such as child custody.
But it should be noted that men's rights activism is a wide range of subjects that simply are ridiculous. For example, some men's rights groups believe martial rape doesn't exist. The movement can be mixed bag... | You could say that in any Western society without particularly solid counter-arguments IMO, but I think this applies rather weakly in societies that are credibly oppressive against women.
As a matter of priority management, the time and efforts spent for some given regions should prioritise women's rights, because th... | hud1nf | CMV: Men's rights are just as important as women's and should be promoted as such | As a woman, I agree 100% with the original definition of feminism, as it is meant to promote equality between genders. I know there are plenty of issues that feminists believe in, one of these being the pay gap, and I do agree that women and men should be paid equally for the same job.
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As a woman, I agree 100% with the original definition of feminism, as it is meant to promote equality between genders. I know there are plenty of issues that feminists believe in, one of these being the pay gap, and I do agree that women... | As a man, I don’t see any unifying issue that connects the various issues MRAs care about. They seem to be a series of problems that effect men with no bigger fundamental problem below them.
Like, with feminists, there’s the big umbrella: women are disenfranchised, erases, and dehumanized in most contexts in western s... | Are you talking about people who actually do stuff, or just about the folks who argue about feminism and men's rights on the internet?
Here's an eye opening exercise: Hop on google scholar and do a search for some men's rights issue. Pick a few papers, maybe read the abstracts, then go to the list of people who worked... | hud1nf | CMV: Men's rights are just as important as women's and should be promoted as such | As a woman, I agree 100% with the original definition of feminism, as it is meant to promote equality between genders. I know there are plenty of issues that feminists believe in, one of these being the pay gap, and I do agree that women and men should be paid equally for the same job.
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CMV: In the US, dating as an Indian Male is borderline impossible today.
*\*\*For context, yes I (23M) am Indian and am in no way ashamed of my ethnicity/culture. I was born in the US, have no "accent", no perm, no tesla, no rich parents. This is not referring to me specifically as there are many in my circle that are... | this is a personal issue and has nothing to do with the race as a whole
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i guess it could be considered personal if you refer to me but there are many people I know outside of my circle that are struggling with the same thing and so that is the view that i hold
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I’ve lived in areas with a high desi concentrat... | >In the recent months, Indian hate has become extremely normalized and almost satirical.
I havent been exposed to any of this, when did this happen? And why?
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CMV: most new genders and gender labels are not productive to have in the long run
Right now US, and in lesser extent other western countries, cultural and social complexes are centred around “identity”. Knowing to what group you belong and what name you give to that group is very important for your personal identity... | >CMV: most new genders and gender labels are not productive to have in the long run
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Right now US, and in lesser extent other western countries, cultural and social complexes are centred around “identity”. Knowing to what group you belong and what name you give to that group is very important for your personal identity... | Abolish gender. That is a kinda common standpoint (and I agree with it).
Thing is, when people that share a characteristic (like sexual orientation or gender expression), are being discriminated, raped or killed, only because of that characteristic, then it is very hard to just forget it and say everyone is different.
... | Why is this a problem or concern for you? It has little to no impact on your life. Let people use whatever pronouns they want. It's none of your concern at all.
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I am not saying people can’t use the pronouns they want. That is ... | ru9qs8 | CMV: most new genders and gender labels are not productive to have in the long run |
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CMV: most new genders and gender labels are not productive to have in the long run
Right now US, and in lesser extent other western countries, cultural and social complexes are centred around “identity”. Knowing to what group you belong and what name you give to that group is very important for your personal identity... | >CMV: most new genders and gender labels are not productive to have in the long run
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CMV: Lance Armstrong should still be considered an all-time great athlete
Ahh, Lance Armstrong. A shining example of how a marketing machine like Nike can shape an athlete's image into that of a hero, and also how quickly a public scandal can undo that legacy. Nowadays Lance Armstrong is more of a villain than a hero ... | >But as an athlete, I think he should still be considered an all-time great. Doping is prevalent in cycling on the whole, as far as I understand it.
And how many of those cyclists, specifically those who have been *caught* doping, are considered "great" by the public?
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Lance Armstrong was a piece of shit who ruined lives to keep people from finding out he was doping.
The obvious problem with your argument is that not *everyone* actually cheated. And even if *everyone* in professional cycling cheated, that still leaves other people who may have made it into profe... | 6bac2r | CMV: Lance Armstrong should still be considered an all-time great athlete | Ahh, Lance Armstrong. A shining example of how a marketing machine like Nike can shape an athlete's image into that of a hero, and also how quickly a public scandal can undo that legacy. Nowadays Lance Armstrong is more of a villain than a hero in the public eye.
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CMV: Palestinians in Gaza should be let into Israel until Gaza is safe
Israel should set up temporary housing on its own territory and allow in any person from Gaza who is not a Hamas or Islamic Jihad soldier. The offer should stand until Gaza is no longer a war zone.
Until then, Gaza is incredibly unsafe, and it is ... | I mean, isn’t Palestinians getting into Israel how all this started? Seems like asking for trouble. I can think of a half dozen obvious reasons this is a bad idea, so let’s just go with the MOST obvious. That being the opportunity for a Trojan horse op.
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If these are transit camps, guarded by the IDF, I’m not conv... | Palestinians, who *overwhelmingly* want to finish what Hitler started, residing in Israel. Right.
A bunch of Palestinians getting into Israel is the reason why we're even in this situation in the first place.
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Until then, Gaza is incredibly unsafe, and it is immoral not to offer civilians in Gaza a way to survive the war.
Any ‘o... | fichtitious | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Sanctions would be more effective if they allowed Russians to import foreign consumer goods
While Sanctions should still prevent Russians from exporting their goods, they should allow Russians to import consumer goods.
This way, every purchase of imported goods causes money to leave the Russian economy, and neve... | Problem is that Russia is importing advanced technology that is **required** for modern economy while exporting raw materials. Without these imports Russians economy will stagger in longer run (when this technology requires spare parts).
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This is usually what happens. Country A introduces restrictions on Country B, Country B then retaliates by introducing restrictions on Country A.
>Thus, sanctions would be more effective ... | 16ag1y8 | CMV: Sanctions would be more effective if they allowed Russians to import foreign consumer goods | While Sanctions should still prevent Russians from exporting their goods, they should allow Russians to import consumer goods.
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CMV: Everything is more complexed with Imperial Measurements we need to just switch over to Metric.
I am going to use Cooking which lets be honest is the thing most people use measurements for as my example.
Lets say you want to make some delicious croissants, are you going to use some shitty American recipe or are y... | Units of measure are not just numerical abstractions; when someone says “Jill is 6’-0” tall”, someone raised with imperial has a pretty good idea how tall Jill is, without ever seeing her. If someone says they need about a cup of rice, two feet of rope, or orders food online and buys a pound of hamburger, those measur... | What about temperature? Centigrade does a shit job of encapsulating the human experience.
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Lets say you want to make some delicious croissants, are you going to use some shitty American recipe or are you going to use a French Recipe? I'd bet most people would use a French recipe. Well how the fuck am ... | Andalib_Odulate | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I'm hopelessly convinced Late Capitalism is destined to collapse and is totally unsustainable.
As the title explains, I'm wholly convinced that the current economic path in the United States is a recipe for utter disaster.
**tl;dr: Late Capitalism is unsustainable and needs to be reformed because it doesn't prev... | First let's go to climate change.
You talk about US capitalism specifically. The US is 14% of all carbon emissions. While significant, reducing our emissions won't make a huge difference. If we cut emissions I half it would only reduce worldwide emissions by 7%.
You also mention top companies being large polluters... | [removed]
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Do you see the rise of socialism in the United States as a viable and realistic approach that can diminish the problems I laid out with Late Capitalism?
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It's worked before. A similar situation was going on before the great depression in the US. And we got through it thanks to the New Deal (https:/... | jmclqd | CMV: I'm hopelessly convinced Late Capitalism is destined to collapse and is totally unsustainable. | As the title explains, I'm wholly convinced that the current economic path in the United States is a recipe for utter disaster.
**tl;dr: Late Capitalism is unsustainable and needs to be reformed because it doesn't prevent climate change, it creates too much social stratification, and it doesn't do enough to prepare fo... | christiano_ | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: People who immigrate to the US illegally are breaking the law and should be treated as criminals. And creating a DMZ across the Mexican border doesn’t sound like such a bad idea.
My family immigrated from Mexico a generation ago and whenever I talk with people nowadays it’s almost like they expect me to agree wit... | [removed]
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No they immigrated illegally and I am not proud of it and would openly admit that they were criminals. I just am giving context as to why I’m annoyed that because of my ethnicity I am expected to agree which has urged me to make this post.
I would definitely agree that someone who immigrated legally as... | What does "be treated like a criminal" mean, exactly? If kill someone, I'll be treated like a criminal. If I steal a car, I'll be treated like a criminal. If I speed in my car, I'll be treated like a criminal. If I fail to pay my taxes, I'll be treated like a criminal. That phrase has a broad number of possible meaning... | ae2gdz | CMV: People who immigrate to the US illegally are breaking the law and should be treated as criminals. And creating a DMZ across the Mexican border doesn’t sound like such a bad idea. | My family immigrated from Mexico a generation ago and whenever I talk with people nowadays it’s almost like they expect me to agree with or sympathize with people who want anyone to be able to immigrate to the US however they can.
To simplify, a few points.
1. Anyone who immigrates illegally, either by a border cross... | a_Light_Umbrella | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is a double standard in the customer service industry between consumer and employee.
A customer service worker being rude is more or less always excused (ie it’s OK to be impolite or brusque to a respectful customer because they are dealing with bad management or a bad customer unrelated to the polite custo... | >A customer service worker being rude is more or less always excused
Have you ever worked in customer service? I've straight up seen people fired for being slightly rude to a customer in the USA.
>paying customers aren’t allowed to have their own excuses for being rude and are seen as bad people if they treat the wo... | *"A customer service worker being rude is more or less always excused"*
According to whom? I've never encountered this mindset - the job of a customer service worker generally involves being polite because they are acting as an agent of their employer. I don't know anyone (nor have I encountered anyone) who believes ... | 1d6mg90 | CMV: There is a double standard in the customer service industry between consumer and employee. | A customer service worker being rude is more or less always excused (ie it’s OK to be impolite or brusque to a respectful customer because they are dealing with bad management or a bad customer unrelated to the polite customer or they are only paid minimum or low wage so therefore being impolite to wider society in the... | Spot_Kind | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Feminism has no point existing anymore in developed countries
Given the fact that
A) Men and Women are equal by law
B) Women have in some cases SUPERIORITY over men (for example, in divorce courts)
C) As much as there are societal stereotypes kr double standards against women, there are societal stereotypes and ... | I don't usually do this, but posts like this prompt a bit of history lookup.
You're the sole moderator of a Men's rights sub. Kinda tells you all you need to know.
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Ad Hominem is when a person does not have an adequate example and resorts to personal attacks. Reminds you of anything? I wonder...
Other than that,... | 66% are false or inconclusive? Where’s that statistic from?
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https://youtu.be/guuPHxg4XXc?si=Ab_BSHR8-UsSxXsi
Watch from 3.10 to around 4.30, be unfortunately hasn't provided the links in the description but he does show actual reports. And the number jsn't precisely 66% percent, it is 44% plus 13% (the sum of th... | 169ydro | CMV: Feminism has no point existing anymore in developed countries | Given the fact that
A) Men and Women are equal by law
B) Women have in some cases SUPERIORITY over men (for example, in divorce courts)
C) As much as there are societal stereotypes kr double standards against women, there are societal stereotypes and double standards against men, possibly to a greater extent. For exam... | WildGrave2 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Sexuality should not have labels
Let me elaborate and clarify a few things. I’m a queer guy, and attracted to masculinity, typically men.
I’d argue that it is regressive to so desperately hold on to labels such as homosexual, heterosexual, and bisexual. All for different reasons.
In terms of homosexual, I thin... | How this plays out in reality: "stop setting me up with guys. I'm a lesbian". "Well, maybe you would be attracted to this guy".
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Could just as easily say “Stop setting me up with guys. I like women” same information being conveyed.
“Stop setting me up with girls, I like men.” Etc etc.
Also “well maybe you wou... | > In terms of homosexual, I think it’s regressive because of it’s inherent definition as “same sex” meaning that it needs to evaluate your gender/sex before calling yourself that.
And what is the problem with evaluating this?
Labels are very useful; they allow people with similar interests to organize in groups, offe... | ezt3pj | CMV: Sexuality should not have labels | Let me elaborate and clarify a few things. I’m a queer guy, and attracted to masculinity, typically men.
I’d argue that it is regressive to so desperately hold on to labels such as homosexual, heterosexual, and bisexual. All for different reasons.
In terms of homosexual, I think it’s regressive because of it’s inher... | WeeklyWinter | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I have an urge to change my tax forms at work so that they don't take any taxes out. I'll save that money, and put it back in when the shutdown is over. I kinda feel like everyone should do this.
I feel like everyone could do this, and basically tell the government that if they can't play nice and share their toy... | How disciplined are you? If you are like most people, you would not save all the money that you weren't paying in taxes but spend some of it. Then, when it came time to pay that lump sum, you would be in trouble because you don't have the money to pay.
Besides this, your employer is required by law to take the ded... | [deleted]
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You’re confusing an employees responsibility with a businesses regarding quarters. | ae1se6 | CMV: I have an urge to change my tax forms at work so that they don't take any taxes out. I'll save that money, and put it back in when the shutdown is over. I kinda feel like everyone should do this. | I feel like everyone could do this, and basically tell the government that if they can't play nice and share their toys, they can't play with them at all.
There is a potential that they won't care, because my income is still being reported, and I'm ultimately still responsible for - and will pay - said taxes (because ... | AlexanderESmith | 2 | 2 | [
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I feel like everyone could do this, and basically tell the government that if they can't play nice and share their toy... | Oh, they care, they care a great deal. The IRS is very clear that merely paying all the taxes you owe when you file your return is not adequate, you **must** pay taxes throughout the year as you earn the income. See the very cheery [Topic 306](https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc306) for details. So to change your mind,... | [deleted]
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You’re confusing an employees responsibility with a businesses regarding quarters.
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There is a potential that they won't care, because my income is still being reported, and I'm ultimately still responsible for - and will pay - said taxes (because ... | AlexanderESmith | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I have an urge to change my tax forms at work so that they don't take any taxes out. I'll save that money, and put it back in when the shutdown is over. I kinda feel like everyone should do this.
I feel like everyone could do this, and basically tell the government that if they can't play nice and share their toy... | Changing your deductions will not send any message. I do this every year. I'd rather use that interest instead of letting uncle sam keep it. I pay at the end of the year. They don't care...
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That's a good point about the interest. I forget about this, and know a lot of people who go this route.
Δ
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This s... | [deleted]
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I'm not 100% sure on this because I never did it any other way, but I think my employer is reporting my liability as each check is issued. I'm an FTE, not a contractor, so I don't do it myself. I do know that between those two groups, the timing is different, but I don't know exactly how.
Technically, ... | ae1se6 | CMV: I have an urge to change my tax forms at work so that they don't take any taxes out. I'll save that money, and put it back in when the shutdown is over. I kinda feel like everyone should do this. | I feel like everyone could do this, and basically tell the government that if they can't play nice and share their toys, they can't play with them at all.
There is a potential that they won't care, because my income is still being reported, and I'm ultimately still responsible for - and will pay - said taxes (because ... | AlexanderESmith | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: There is nothing wrong with first amendment audits.
1. Filming is legal. It doesn't matter what someone thinks of it, or how many crimes someone can imagine someone committing while doing it.
2. Corruption and crime needs to be exposed. These were already corrupt and criminal public servants. It isn't the first ... | >Filming is legal
There are plenty of things that are legal and also bad.
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Let's get into some examples.
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Going to a public place with the intention of provoking an altercation for money.
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You can't provoke good public servants into behaving criminal or corrupt.
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Yes, you can. I could provoke you i... | I personally do not consent to be filmed no matter what.
Why are you personally enforcing your demands on me?
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Then stay inside private property where you can make sure no cameras film you.
Do you demand consent from security cameras and dash cams?
What about other things people do that you don't like? Are the... | 16a4e7m | CMV: There is nothing wrong with first amendment audits. | 1. Filming is legal. It doesn't matter what someone thinks of it, or how many crimes someone can imagine someone committing while doing it.
2. Corruption and crime needs to be exposed. These were already corrupt and criminal public servants. It isn't the first time they ever behaved this way. It is merely the first ti... | Ill-Organization-719 | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: No matter how good the intentions are behind it, no restriction of free speech is a good idea.
Now, I should note that this primarily focuses on hate speech laws, but anything really in this sense can apply. Let's get started.
CLARIFICATION: I'm primarily speaking about laws preventing the expression of beliefs,... | Saying there's a bomb on an airplane when there isn't can create serious panic and potentially get someone killed. Intentionally inciting panic is not something that is good to do and can result in some serious negative consequences. I do know that you say you're talking about mainly hate speech, but you also state tha... | >Giving away any right to the government, for any reason, cannot be taken back. Imagine if we handed away the fourth amendment. The cops could barge in any old time without reason.
>Giving the right to silence permanently opens the door to government-sponsored censorship.
The government is not some kind of divinely p... | 8j9rfj | CMV: No matter how good the intentions are behind it, no restriction of free speech is a good idea. | Now, I should note that this primarily focuses on hate speech laws, but anything really in this sense can apply. Let's get started.
CLARIFICATION: I'm primarily speaking about laws preventing the expression of beliefs, primarily politically.
ANOTHER CLARIFICATION: I'm speaking about laws akin to hate speech laws, not... | CrumbledCrumbles | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Opponents of SJW movements are most often projecting their own selfishness
It is my opinion, just based on intuition and personal observation, that most opponents of social justice movements (e.g. feminism, BLM, LGBTQ, etc.) *start* from a very fundamental identity position which they then form rationalizations a... | The reason I oppose SJW movements is specifically **because** I view everyone as unique. Every person I meet is an individual, with their own story, their own background, their own strengths and weaknesses, their own faults, and their own needs. Once I know that person, then I don't need to concern myself with superf... | So, before I begin, what do you personally think of people who used to be SJWs, before eventually renouncing it because they find, while originally with good intentions, the movement has become abusive, cultish, and ultimately unproductive to actual social progress?
Edit: Downvoted, of course. The unfortunate reality ... | 80z6i2 | CMV: Opponents of SJW movements are most often projecting their own selfishness | It is my opinion, just based on intuition and personal observation, that most opponents of social justice movements (e.g. feminism, BLM, LGBTQ, etc.) *start* from a very fundamental identity position which they then form rationalizations around *afterwards*, as a result. Their fundamental position is this: “these move... | DrinkyDrank | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Almost anyone could be successful in the United States.
**Edit: I have changed my mind on more than I thought I possibly would from this post. I don't have time to keep responding to all the comments, but if you leave one that I still disagree with, I'll try to continue the discussion. Thanks everyone for your he... | [deleted]
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Yes I would agree that would a bad take. But where are you possibly getting the number that it's that much easier for privileged people?
Also, you're saying it like it's random. It's not. People who are driven, and truly want to succeed, will find a way to do so. That is my view.
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So, forgive me i... | What do you think of "opportunity hoarding", the idea that one's income is highly correlated to one's parents' incomes?
If it's true don't you think that creates a rather stacked deck against the ol' bootstraps argument?
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Yes it does. I can't really disagree with that **Δ**, but it just seems strange that there a... | jmqq8z | CMV: Almost anyone could be successful in the United States. | **Edit: I have changed my mind on more than I thought I possibly would from this post. I don't have time to keep responding to all the comments, but if you leave one that I still disagree with, I'll try to continue the discussion. Thanks everyone for your help!**
First of all, I'd like to define what I consider "succe... | Andy_and_Vic | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:Political violence in liberal democracies against politicians or political actors whether they be far left or far right only stands to embolden them and further lead to the dissolution of liberalism
It is my view that punching a nazi or a communist is actually what they want. Some Nazis and Communists seek to unde... | >I think a lot of liberals dont realize that they are being manipulated and that enacting political violence within their own system only leads to it being discredited and undermined.
Just to be clear--do you mean liberal in the small "l" democracy loving sense, or liberal as in lefty American political alignments?
-... | Liberalism operates under the assumption that people will reasonably follow good arguments. Debate, scrutiny, and logic are supposed to wash away bad ideas in favor of good ones.
What this means is, it gives you superpowers to be someone who does not operate under these assumptions but who is willing to *mimic* what ... | adq6ck | CMV:Political violence in liberal democracies against politicians or political actors whether they be far left or far right only stands to embolden them and further lead to the dissolution of liberalism | It is my view that punching a nazi or a communist is actually what they want. Some Nazis and Communists seek to undermine the liberal democratic system, and perhaps the best way of doing that is normalizing violence within it. Once you introduce violence to the political landscape, when the establishment already sits o... | VesaAwesaka | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: If you believe that Loli hentai should be banned, then you should also support all other forms of Porn being banned.
On reddit, and online especially I often see people make the claim that 'Loli hentai' (Drawn porn featuring child characters) ought to be banned online. To many this seems like an attractive positi... | > many many many studies have shown how porn consumption contributes to the development of negative views regarding women
Clarifying question - do these studies actually "show how" it contributes, or do they simply report a correlation? Do they stratify to control for what types of porn people are watching?
> it ca... | You only highlight other examples of non-consensual sex in porn as like comparisons.
So if someone's position is: "We shouldn't create/sell/consume pornography depicting or featuring children engaged in sex, or sex involving non-consent from people or animals"
While stating pornography, including or depicting consent... | 1aqa8d8 | CMV: If you believe that Loli hentai should be banned, then you should also support all other forms of Porn being banned. | On reddit, and online especially I often see people make the claim that 'Loli hentai' (Drawn porn featuring child characters) ought to be banned online. To many this seems like an attractive position, after all child porn is disgusting, is it not? Yet most of the time someone points out that Loli Hentai is not actually... | MrScandanavia | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: technology has not made birth-giving better than in the past
**source**: https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/528098789/u-s-has-the-worst-rate-of-maternal-deaths-in-the-developed-world
in the usa, technology has not made birth-giving better, and in fact it is worst than other advanced nations
usa has more maternal de... | If technology has not made giving birth any better or safer then how is the US behind other developed nation, but still ahead of second and third world nations?
Comparing the rates of infant mortality (and maternal) mortality between 2018, 1918 and 1818 will give you a great idea of how much technology *has* improve... | The report itself cites budgeting (lack of) and training (again lack of) as some of the drivers for the high maternal death rate. Technology has nothing to do with the story. Other countries with lower death rates use the same technology so there must be other causes, right?
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do we have any good evidence currently... | 8j9e2b | CMV: technology has not made birth-giving better than in the past | **source**: https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/528098789/u-s-has-the-worst-rate-of-maternal-deaths-in-the-developed-world
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usa has more maternal deaths than other developed nations, and we have no evidence that any... | understandthings100 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: technology has not made birth-giving better than in the past
**source**: https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/528098789/u-s-has-the-worst-rate-of-maternal-deaths-in-the-developed-world
in the usa, technology has not made birth-giving better, and in fact it is worst than other advanced nations
usa has more maternal de... | If technology has not made giving birth any better or safer then how is the US behind other developed nation, but still ahead of second and third world nations?
Comparing the rates of infant mortality (and maternal) mortality between 2018, 1918 and 1818 will give you a great idea of how much technology *has* improve... | I'm also frustrated with the disparity. Bear in mind there are some complications to trying to compare countries directly. The difference is partly due to variations in how births are defined and measured. These differences make the US look worse by comparison than it is (though it is still worse than many European ... | 8j9e2b | CMV: technology has not made birth-giving better than in the past | **source**: https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/528098789/u-s-has-the-worst-rate-of-maternal-deaths-in-the-developed-world
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CMV: Conscription is a good thing for the US
Modern military's are mostly volunteer based, and the US is no different . This works ok in peace time, but nobody wants to join the army during a war.
This means in a war, the military would be less capable. Everyone knows this, which is why the army has a draft.
However... | Both world wars also had run ups in voluntary enlistment. Hell, they had 16/17 year olds trying to enlist.
Korea and Vietnam instituted a draft, but those weren't technically wars, as Congress never issued a formal declaration of war.
I'm not trying to diminish those wars or the people that fought in them. I'm only s... | Fundamentally, conscription violates the right to pursuit of happiness because it's effectively the government telling you what to do with your time. However, in specific circumstances, like during an existential war, it can be justified to protect the country that grants these rights in the first place.
The US is not... | 1d6d5se | CMV: Conscription is a good thing for the US | Modern military's are mostly volunteer based, and the US is no different . This works ok in peace time, but nobody wants to join the army during a war.
This means in a war, the military would be less capable. Everyone knows this, which is why the army has a draft.
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CMV: Robots/Computers will end most employment for humans
As the age of electronics continues to thrive I can't help but feel that this is the end for a lot of jobs...
A lot of shops are already closing down because many items such as toys can be purchased online cheaper and with less effort for the consumer.
Furthe... | Im skeptical. Historically this has been a fear for a long time about a plethora of new technologies, but the tech always just changes the nature of the workforce. Machines require regular maintenance, refueling, and repairing, not to mention new machines are expensive af, so even as crazy new tech is released, it ca... | [deleted]
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Most jobs haha! Sorry, title probably wasn't too well thought out....
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[deleted] | 8108cl | CMV: Robots/Computers will end most employment for humans | As the age of electronics continues to thrive I can't help but feel that this is the end for a lot of jobs...
A lot of shops are already closing down because many items such as toys can be purchased online cheaper and with less effort for the consumer.
Furthermore warehouses like Amazon use robots to do a lot of the ... | silverteacup | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: REAL ID is a Scam
I believe that Real ID is a scam and serves no actual purpose other than extorting money from hard working Americans
If I have an ID from the commonwealth I live in that allows me to operate a motor vehicle, it should definitely allow me to be a passenger on an airplane.
When I got the ID from... | It just sounds like legislation to standardize the identifying document requirements across the US - don't see any scam here. Documentary requirements are usually standardized to accommodate scalable and efficient domestic travel procedures.
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>It just sounds like legislation to standardize the identifying document... | No it isn't, it costs next to nothing and gives you the ability to identify yourself.
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>gives you the ability to identify yourself.
But I already have that, my driver's license. Had it for well over a decade, and before that had a state ID
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Then don't get an id, simple as that. | 16a0j1y | CMV: REAL ID is a Scam | I believe that Real ID is a scam and serves no actual purpose other than extorting money from hard working Americans
If I have an ID from the commonwealth I live in that allows me to operate a motor vehicle, it should definitely allow me to be a passenger on an airplane.
When I got the ID from my home commonwealth, I... | MyFavoriteArm | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: Winner-take-all is a bad way to run the Electoral College, and any better way would be quite similar to a national popular vote.
The Electoral College gives each state a certain amount of electoral votes based on population, with small states having a somewhat disproportionately large share of the electoral votes... | If we want to keep the EC, I think that each Congressional district should get their own vote, similar to what NE and ME does.
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That just proves my point, as Congressional District voting is very similar in principle to a national popular vote, although it runs a grave risk of gerrymandering.
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You are correct... | A national popular vote is still winner take all, so nothing has been changed here.
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It's not winner-take-all on the state-by-state(, Electoral College)* level.
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A national popular vote bypasses the electoral college and is winner take all for the person that wins the most total votes in the nation as a whol... | 8j78zu | CMV: Winner-take-all is a bad way to run the Electoral College, and any better way would be quite similar to a national popular vote. | The Electoral College gives each state a certain amount of electoral votes based on population, with small states having a somewhat disproportionately large share of the electoral votes. Each state's legislature has the right to decide how to cast its electoral votes. All but 2 states use the winner-take-all method, wh... | Chackoony | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: I don't understand the idea of enjoying a movie/play more because the actors are the same race as me
Black Panther as the most recent example. I don't get why a person feels "represented" just because the actor is the same race as they are. My thoughts on this are kind of all over the place, so just going to use ... | As far as minorities in big blockbuster movies, starring, being the majority of the cast, etc, it isn't super common still. So I can understand how a black person might feel more represented because a big blockbuster movie's cast is mostly black.
If you look at most big blockbuster movies, the majority of the cast... | Like with most things when it comes to race, you have to look at history. Historically, the default protagonist is a white straight male. It generally still is. You have never lacked representation even if your current favorite movie lead doesn't look like you. You grew up with "the good guys" *always* being white. Som... | adwbsb | CMV: I don't understand the idea of enjoying a movie/play more because the actors are the same race as me | Black Panther as the most recent example. I don't get why a person feels "represented" just because the actor is the same race as they are. My thoughts on this are kind of all over the place, so just going to use bullets.
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\- My favorite movie of all time, the one I feel most represented by, is The Pursuit of... | ZeusThunder369 | 3 | 3 | [
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