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programmingcirclejerk | Adolora | fzjshhg | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programmers_with_stable_and_hardened_codebases](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programmers)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_a_large_lack_of_social_skills](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programmers)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 37 |
programmingcirclejerk | Karyo_Ten | fziwdoh | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>"Fearless lack of social skills"
Especially in concurrent environment with multiple readers
- The Language Which Must Not Be Named<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 34 |
programmingcirclejerk | MikeSeth | fzjoopk | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>I've been saying that code smell is real for decades, and they're all like "you need sensitivity training"<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | kevin_with_rice | fzjznv0 | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>Oh yeah, then why is all my code garbage?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | disintegore | fzk7q2y | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>Lol, linux gaming. Good joke bruh<|eor|><|soopr|>begone normie<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | bduddy | fzjpp0d | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>It is crucial to the stability of software, nay, the entire world, that human females are not permitted anywhere near any code.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | IEatLegosOnPurpose | fzk87ti | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>Lol, linux gaming. Good joke bruh<|eor|><|sor|>It's really come a long way. I can reliably get almost 30fps on minecraft these days.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | binaryblade | fzjqcwq | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>Lol, linux gaming. Good joke bruh<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | binaryblade | fzk8ik2 | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>Lol, linux gaming. Good joke bruh<|eor|><|sor|>It's really come a long way. I can reliably get almost 30fps on minecraft these days.<|eor|><|sor|>Lol, 30 fps are you running that on the block chain in docker on a vm backed by redstone?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | relok123 | fzjqd2t | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>Fact: your code cannot be stable if its not written in rust
So rust kills your social skills, its an objective fact.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | exploooooosions | fzkpexg | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|soopr|>might be social jerk but it's too pure of a jerk not to risk it
do what you must, mods<|eoopr|><|sor|>It's not a social jerk. That's just an objective fact.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | disintegore | fzjc6yy | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>"Fearless lack of social skills"
Especially in concurrent environment with multiple readers
- The Language Which Must Not Be Named<|eor|><|soopr|>who would have known that the most important factor in writing secure software is personal insecurity<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | voidvector | fzjy51r | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>I am going to open an Amazon Storefront selling body pillows of the Blue Gopher if anyone here is interested.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 9 |
programmingcirclejerk | Fluffy8x | fzkbme0 | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>cant spell programmer without incel<|eor|><|sor|>princelgrammer<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 8 |
programmingcirclejerk | mizzu704 | fzlo4ax | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|soopr|>might be social jerk but it's too pure of a jerk not to risk it
do what you must, mods<|eoopr|><|sor|>The PCJ core team believes that all jerking is and always will be socialjerking.<|eor|><|sor|>The history of all hitherto existing jerking is the history of socialjerking.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 7 |
programmingcirclejerk | SinisterMinister42 | fzjg5zv | <|sols|><|sot|>The most stable and hardened code out there often gets written by people with a large lack of social skills. That's just an objective fact.<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/hz5mgc/mesosphere_opensource_nintendo_switch_kernel_now/fzhpjn6/<|eol|><|sor|>Read "lack" as "amount" (?? wtf eyes) and was gonna post where's the jerk<|eor|><|sor|>And look, you still did.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | camelCaseIsWebScale | g8cazl | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 137 |
programmingcirclejerk | dnkndnts | fomujxe | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>The main purpose of Haskell is to keep Haskell developers unemployed.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 142 |
programmingcirclejerk | Adolora | fomss97 | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>I am glad that I am not the only one not knowing what problem React solves.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 65 |
programmingcirclejerk | 32gbsd | fomutja | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>/uj
This is every programming language<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 35 |
programmingcirclejerk | DrNightingale | fonp2ds | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>/uj
This is every programming language<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>You mean the programming language where you're only allowed to use certain features if this Evan guy likes you?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 35 |
programmingcirclejerk | advice-alligator | foociu8 | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>I am glad that I am not the only one not knowing what problem React solves.<|eor|><|sor|>It solves the problem of using Angular.<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>Which solved the mystery of why Ruby exists.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 24 |
programmingcirclejerk | Kirkleon_ | food1mp | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>I am glad that I am not the only one not knowing what problem React solves.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj I will say, to React's credit, it was the first front end framework I ever used where I thought "huh, I see why people like this!" after I learned it. I still think big frameworks are overused of course, but React was the first time I ever actually understood why people reach for a framework to write a web page that barely has any actual code required.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | VodkaHaze | foo34n4 | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>/uj
This is every programming language<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>You mean the programming language where you're only allowed to use certain features if this Evan guy likes you?<|eor|><|sor|>Only unless you want to not directly attack the integrity of the language, thanks.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | AprilSpektra | fooqpmk | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>I am glad that I am not the only one not knowing what problem React solves.<|eor|><|sor|>It solves the problem of using Angular.<|eor|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>Which solved the mystery of why Ruby exists.<|eor|><|sor|>Which solved the mystery of "What if Python but ugly?"<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | fonqa8r | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>\> from the HN post
> I find the fact that front-end has a fragmented ecosystem due to different frameworks completely absurd. We have Webcomponents, which are framework-agnostic and will run in vanilla JS/HTML and nobody bothers to use them.
\> 50% of React/Angular/Vue devs having an existential crisis because they in fact never had to use a framework in the first place
/uj
Tbh looking at the [MDN docs for Web Components](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components), I can kinda see why Vue and Angular exist (lol React doesn't even compile its shit to web components), but why is this not part of le front-end devs education?
I can see how it can start to get complex for bigger websites, but how do webdevs not learn about web components before they do some run-of-the-mill hipster React tutorial?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 12 |
programmingcirclejerk | shortnamed | fonx991 | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>\> from the HN post
> I find the fact that front-end has a fragmented ecosystem due to different frameworks completely absurd. We have Webcomponents, which are framework-agnostic and will run in vanilla JS/HTML and nobody bothers to use them.
\> 50% of React/Angular/Vue devs having an existential crisis because they in fact never had to use a framework in the first place
/uj
Tbh looking at the [MDN docs for Web Components](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components), I can kinda see why Vue and Angular exist (lol React doesn't even compile its shit to web components), but why is this not part of le front-end devs education?
I can see how it can start to get complex for bigger websites, but how do webdevs not learn about web components before they do some run-of-the-mill hipster React tutorial?<|eor|><|sor|>`(window as any).unjerk()`
look at the implementation support. only chrome and firefox. meaning that 40% of the users (as safari) won't support it. even if they did, there would still be IE and edge and whatnot. meaning you can just polyfill, but if you want to drop IE support tomorrow and have an ok looking front-end codebase (that won't run natively on IE) you have to transpile.
and when you transpile, you might as well use react for JSX and functional components. because there the relationship between some state and rendered markup is clearer, or at least harder to obfuscate. you can create lots of mess with an unopinionated class that has some methods and just interacts with the DOM at will.
also, shadow dom is super good for style encapsulation. angular people solved scoped styles for components with shadow dom emulation. react/styled components did that with randomized class names and some runtime JS bullshit for managing them.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 12 |
programmingcirclejerk | Mormahr | foo9gxg | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>\> from the HN post
> I find the fact that front-end has a fragmented ecosystem due to different frameworks completely absurd. We have Webcomponents, which are framework-agnostic and will run in vanilla JS/HTML and nobody bothers to use them.
\> 50% of React/Angular/Vue devs having an existential crisis because they in fact never had to use a framework in the first place
/uj
Tbh looking at the [MDN docs for Web Components](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components), I can kinda see why Vue and Angular exist (lol React doesn't even compile its shit to web components), but why is this not part of le front-end devs education?
I can see how it can start to get complex for bigger websites, but how do webdevs not learn about web components before they do some run-of-the-mill hipster React tutorial?<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
Web components have a lot of downsides. For example you cant render them on the server side. That means they break without JavaScript and it takes longer for the initial page load. Also what do they have going for them, to convince people to use them? Its essentially just another method to build modern frontends. I dont see why Id use them over react / angular / vue / svelte.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 11 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | foob64w | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>\> from the HN post
> I find the fact that front-end has a fragmented ecosystem due to different frameworks completely absurd. We have Webcomponents, which are framework-agnostic and will run in vanilla JS/HTML and nobody bothers to use them.
\> 50% of React/Angular/Vue devs having an existential crisis because they in fact never had to use a framework in the first place
/uj
Tbh looking at the [MDN docs for Web Components](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components), I can kinda see why Vue and Angular exist (lol React doesn't even compile its shit to web components), but why is this not part of le front-end devs education?
I can see how it can start to get complex for bigger websites, but how do webdevs not learn about web components before they do some run-of-the-mill hipster React tutorial?<|eor|><|sor|>`(window as any).unjerk()`
look at the implementation support. only chrome and firefox. meaning that 40% of the users (as safari) won't support it. even if they did, there would still be IE and edge and whatnot. meaning you can just polyfill, but if you want to drop IE support tomorrow and have an ok looking front-end codebase (that won't run natively on IE) you have to transpile.
and when you transpile, you might as well use react for JSX and functional components. because there the relationship between some state and rendered markup is clearer, or at least harder to obfuscate. you can create lots of mess with an unopinionated class that has some methods and just interacts with the DOM at will.
also, shadow dom is super good for style encapsulation. angular people solved scoped styles for components with shadow dom emulation. react/styled components did that with randomized class names and some runtime JS bullshit for managing them.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
Ah.
Would it really be anything worthwhile *if* it had Safari and IE support?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | fooej3d | <|sols|><|sot|>the main purpose of Javascript currently is to keep Javascript developers employed.<|eot|><|sol|>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22981097<|eol|><|sor|>\> from the HN post
> I find the fact that front-end has a fragmented ecosystem due to different frameworks completely absurd. We have Webcomponents, which are framework-agnostic and will run in vanilla JS/HTML and nobody bothers to use them.
\> 50% of React/Angular/Vue devs having an existential crisis because they in fact never had to use a framework in the first place
/uj
Tbh looking at the [MDN docs for Web Components](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Web_Components), I can kinda see why Vue and Angular exist (lol React doesn't even compile its shit to web components), but why is this not part of le front-end devs education?
I can see how it can start to get complex for bigger websites, but how do webdevs not learn about web components before they do some run-of-the-mill hipster React tutorial?<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
Web components have a lot of downsides. For example you cant render them on the server side. That means they break without JavaScript and it takes longer for the initial page load. Also what do they have going for them, to convince people to use them? Its essentially just another method to build modern frontends. I dont see why Id use them over react / angular / vue / svelte.<|eor|><|sor|>/uj
Well I actually learned something useful on PCJ. Thanks!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | ogniloud | f93sf0 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 134 |
programmingcirclejerk | DogeGroomer | fipg024 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>Why is this sub ideologically opposed to having a sense of humor?<|eor|><|sor|>10Xers dont have time for fun. While youre laughing at funny posts on twitter Ive already traced your IP and DDOSed your fridge.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 97 |
programmingcirclejerk | mqduck | fipf0o0 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>Why is this sub ideologically opposed to having a sense of humor?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 90 |
programmingcirclejerk | romaha22 | fipddap | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>I prefer Lenin's April Javascript Theses<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 61 |
programmingcirclejerk | Moarbid_Krabs | fiphaed | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>I was always partial to Dostoyevsky's *Rust and JavaScript* myself<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 42 |
programmingcirclejerk | YqQbey | fipjr4n | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>I was always partial to Dostoyevsky's *Rust and JavaScript* myself<|eor|><|sor|>It's the other way, JavaScript is the crime and Rust is the pinishment.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 35 |
programmingcirclejerk | therico | fiplmw1 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>Why is this sub ideologically opposed to having a sense of humor?<|eor|><|sor|>Because they're only half joking when they talk about the 'zen of python'. They really believe they have invented this profound list of maxims that we should follow for a happier life. And the whole point of a jerk sub is to bitterly, cynically make fun of this kind of egoistic, overblown, self-important bullshit. Maybe it's not for you?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 29 |
programmingcirclejerk | voidvector | fipo9pr | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>I prefer Lenin's April Javascript Theses<|eor|><|sor|>You gotta read:
* JabbaScripter's Cookbook
* Mein LinkePad<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | fipijgc | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>I prefer The Lisp Manifesto
> Or, the Crusade of C# and The Conquest Of Constants
>> okay nevermind. let's not further enshrine genocide and colonialism.
M$ imperialist bastards and C# and `const` tools for genocide confirmed.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | AnalogOfDwarves | fipotn3 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>0.1xer has obviously never read Spencers [10 Commandments of C](https://www.lysator.liu.se/c/ten-commandments.html). There is also an alternative set of 10 Commandments:
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.
1. Thou shalt not dereference a NULL pointer.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | savuporo | fiplzl3 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>lies, below is the mantra of jabbascript, very non-oriental
The wheels on the frameworks go round and round
Round and round
Round and round
The wheels on the frameworks go round and round
All through the town<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | kz393 | fipnhy3 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>I was always partial to Dostoyevsky's *Rust and JavaScript* myself<|eor|><|sor|>It's the other way, JavaScript is the crime and Rust is the pinishment.<|eor|><|sor|>JS is both crime and punishment. Just like Rodion going mad due to the murder in the book. The formal punishment is just a cherry on top<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | silentconfessor | fipt1o1 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>Why is this sub ideologically opposed to having a sense of humor?<|eor|><|sor|>Why merely laugh when one can jerk?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | LeeHide | fipzdlq | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>Why is this sub ideologically opposed to having a sense of humor?<|eor|><|sor|>Why is C++ still being used? Why do people still use typesafe languages? Why do people still eat meat?
The answer to all these questions, including yours, is that people cannot move on from primal, immoral and unethical ideologies. Have you ever written dynamic code - *truly* dynamic code? I doubt it. You wouldn't understand, you look like the type that thinks nothing ever is perfect. You know what's perfect? Rust. Maybe we dont have humor, but we have out ethics, and those are near and dear to us. And that's why, dear rustaceans, I'm hereby proposing that Rust be made dynamically typed, that C++ be abolished, that meat eaters be banished and that anyone who dares writing for loops have their Rust bootcamp 2017 license be revoked.
No longer will I look up how to convert between types, no longer do I want to use a language that has mode keywords than users (looking st you, C++).
I am not having it anymore.
It's revolution time.
/uj
lets keep this sub focused on jerks only<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | LeeHide | fipz17n | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>I prefer Lenin's April Javascript Theses<|eor|><|sor|>You gotta read:
* JabbaScripter's Cookbook
* Mein LinkePad<|eor|><|sor|>Mein C++ typing Krampf<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | defunkydrummer | firt6g9 | <|sols|><|sot|>Why do philosophical treatises on programming languages always have to be Orientalist and shit, it's always "The Zen of Python" this or "Java Koans" that. Where's the Apostle's Creed of Rust or Martin Luther's 95 Theses of JavaScript.<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/tesseralis/status/1232008855338377218<|eol|><|sor|>I compare using common lisp to sex personnally<|eor|><|sor|>> sex personnally
"Personal sex" is no other than masturbation.<|eor|><|sor|>Would fit with how I use lisp tbh<|eor|><|sor|>there's no sex without sexps...<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | ArmoredPancake | c19x16 | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 132 |
programmingcirclejerk | ProfessorSexyTime | erbukc3 | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>God I hope not.
/uj
God I hope not.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 123 |
programmingcirclejerk | categorical-girl | erc5843 | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>Manufacturing textiles will be as ubiquitous as literacy in the future, therefore we should be putting our kids in the factories as soon as they can walk
- Experts^TM ca. 1800<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 52 |
programmingcirclejerk | ooqq | erbuw3z | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>"coding" like "npm import" coding?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 47 |
programmingcirclejerk | msiekkinen | erc5694 | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>And just like with literacy many will be able read but not everyone will be able to write. The masses will flock to checkout a thriller or some romance snippets typed by the great artisans from github to read by a fire on a rainy day. The greats will become immortalized not unlike Shakespeare, even garnering their own Jeopardy categories.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 44 |
programmingcirclejerk | lord_braleigh | ercci67 | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>almost knee-jerk downvoted
/rj in the future, 2nd graders will learn Math, English and Rust<|eor|><|sor|>/uj More like everyone still does all their work in Word/Excel/PPT but now they can also write terrible-but-good-enough macros. Maybe a few 10Xers can do the powershell equivalents of grep, sed, and globbing if they want to search through or move a bunch of files.
Eight years ago I had an internship at a power company, where highly trained electrical engineers would use a program called PFLOW to view current flowing through the state power grid. The job consisted of
1. clicking on a wire, which simulates the wire going down
1. clicking the run button to recompute current
1. scrolling through the map to see which wires now have current above regulation
1. and making a PowerPoint presentation to show your bosses if you find anything.
As far as I know, theyre still doing that.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 34 |
programmingcirclejerk | CodeReclaimers | erccd7c | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>"coding" like "npm import" coding?<|eor|><|sor|>More like "Excel+VB6+Access = Critical Business App" coding.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 27 |
programmingcirclejerk | ArmoredPancake | ercal7k | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|soopr|>> Python is the literacy of the future.
DAE Python is basically arithmetics?!?!<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 20 |
programmingcirclejerk | andiconda | ercw5m2 | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>[deleted]<|eor|><|sor|>/uj those "day in the life of a software engineer" videos from silicone valley make me cringe so much. Most companies I've worked at have strict-ish dress code policies, strict core hours, soul crushing meetings, and 0.1xers taking credit for other people's work.
/rj everyone should get a compsci degree and come join us in the ball pit where we spend 1 hour coding and 7 hours playing games.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | NeverMakesMistkes | ercto3n | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>Coding IN ITS CURRENT FORM will NEVER be even remotely as ubiquitous as reading, and the reason is simple: while nearly anyone can learn to read, it's not true that everyone can learn to code. Some peoples' brains just don't work in the right way for coding, that's the truth many people don't like to admit. And, to be clear, that doesn't make them lesser people or anything like that. My brain has just never been able to comprehend much beyond the very basics of the financial system for example. It just doesn't work that way, but that doesn't somehow make me a lesser person (drawing is another example - I'm sure I could learn all the basics of drawing, but my brain just isn't built to draw anything but stick figures and no amount of practice is going to change that). Peoples' brains aren't universally good at all things and we shouldn't ever expect them to be. Some people can do some things, others cannot, and that's just the way it is. That doesn't mean they shouldn't try coding either, but don't be surprised when a large percentage simply never get it beyond some very basic stuff.
Now, I said "in its current form" for a reason: I suspect coding as we know it today won't be coding as we know it \~20 years from now. On some level that's an obvious statement - we all know technology changes over time - but I don't just mean that we'll all be using some language and dev stack we can't imagine today. No, I mean that coding may well take a fundamentally different form. I think we're already starting to see some of the ideas that will probably be in play: visual paradigms. It's not a new concept, but I'd bet things like Scratch, though a more high-level version, will start to take over at some point.
I remember IBM Visual Age years ago and how I thought for sure it would be the way forward: you were just drawing diagrams that later became code. It didn't turn out to be the answer, but I think it's more because it was just too early and didn't evolve fast enough rather than it fundamentally being the wrong idea... if anything, it was probably not abstract enough, that's likely the evolution that has yet to occur.
I think where we're going to wind up is having a subset of coders who write "blocks", the ones doing the "real" coding, much like we do today. But then, there will be a larger set of "coders" who wire those blocks together in a largely visual way, almost certainly with the help of AI. At that point, probably everyone WILL code to various degrees, even if they don't realize they are sometimes because it won't look anything like coding today does. You can see experiments in this sort of paradigm today, but none are ready for prime time, and probably it'll be a while before any are. But I think that's where we're headed. And, really, AI would wind up largely just being a layer on top of this, in the sense that as a "coder" you'll wind up telling an AI what you want to achieve by drawing some diagrams and it'll pick the right blocks and wire them together in the right way. How powerful the AI is will determine how abstract the whole thing ultimately is.
And really, despite what we coders today think, this is all probably a good thing! We SHOULD want the world to be empowered to "code" as ubiquitously as they read today. That'll put a great deal of power in everyone's' hands and, at least theoretically, will make life better for all. I'm sure we'll find a way to fuck it up of course, humans are good at that universally, but let's put that cynicism aside for now. I don't see a situation where there aren't still going to be coders as we know the term today, it's just that we'll move from delivering complete solutions and instead move to delivering the building blocks that complete solutions are built from by others. We'll still be in demand, just with different goals.<|eor|><|sor|>Jeez did you just write a 5-paragraph text on r/pcj?
At least add some emoji so people can read it cause now it's just <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | notjfd | ercy0iy | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>Coding IN ITS CURRENT FORM will NEVER be even remotely as ubiquitous as reading, and the reason is simple: while nearly anyone can learn to read, it's not true that everyone can learn to code. Some peoples' brains just don't work in the right way for coding, that's the truth many people don't like to admit. And, to be clear, that doesn't make them lesser people or anything like that. My brain has just never been able to comprehend much beyond the very basics of the financial system for example. It just doesn't work that way, but that doesn't somehow make me a lesser person (drawing is another example - I'm sure I could learn all the basics of drawing, but my brain just isn't built to draw anything but stick figures and no amount of practice is going to change that). Peoples' brains aren't universally good at all things and we shouldn't ever expect them to be. Some people can do some things, others cannot, and that's just the way it is. That doesn't mean they shouldn't try coding either, but don't be surprised when a large percentage simply never get it beyond some very basic stuff.
Now, I said "in its current form" for a reason: I suspect coding as we know it today won't be coding as we know it \~20 years from now. On some level that's an obvious statement - we all know technology changes over time - but I don't just mean that we'll all be using some language and dev stack we can't imagine today. No, I mean that coding may well take a fundamentally different form. I think we're already starting to see some of the ideas that will probably be in play: visual paradigms. It's not a new concept, but I'd bet things like Scratch, though a more high-level version, will start to take over at some point.
I remember IBM Visual Age years ago and how I thought for sure it would be the way forward: you were just drawing diagrams that later became code. It didn't turn out to be the answer, but I think it's more because it was just too early and didn't evolve fast enough rather than it fundamentally being the wrong idea... if anything, it was probably not abstract enough, that's likely the evolution that has yet to occur.
I think where we're going to wind up is having a subset of coders who write "blocks", the ones doing the "real" coding, much like we do today. But then, there will be a larger set of "coders" who wire those blocks together in a largely visual way, almost certainly with the help of AI. At that point, probably everyone WILL code to various degrees, even if they don't realize they are sometimes because it won't look anything like coding today does. You can see experiments in this sort of paradigm today, but none are ready for prime time, and probably it'll be a while before any are. But I think that's where we're headed. And, really, AI would wind up largely just being a layer on top of this, in the sense that as a "coder" you'll wind up telling an AI what you want to achieve by drawing some diagrams and it'll pick the right blocks and wire them together in the right way. How powerful the AI is will determine how abstract the whole thing ultimately is.
And really, despite what we coders today think, this is all probably a good thing! We SHOULD want the world to be empowered to "code" as ubiquitously as they read today. That'll put a great deal of power in everyone's' hands and, at least theoretically, will make life better for all. I'm sure we'll find a way to fuck it up of course, humans are good at that universally, but let's put that cynicism aside for now. I don't see a situation where there aren't still going to be coders as we know the term today, it's just that we'll move from delivering complete solutions and instead move to delivering the building blocks that complete solutions are built from by others. We'll still be in demand, just with different goals.<|eor|><|sor|>Jeez did you just write a 5-paragraph text on r/pcj?
At least add some emoji so people can read it cause now it's just <|eor|><|sor|> , : , ' . ' ' , ' ' . , , ' . . ' , ' ( - ' , ' ). ' ' ' . , , ' . ' ' , ' . , " " : ' ~20 . ' - - ' ' ' . , . ' : . ' , ' , - , . : . ' , ' ' ... , , ' . ' "", "" , . , "" , . , , ' ' . , , ' . ' ' . , , , "" ' ' . . , , ! "" . ' '' , , . ' ' , , ' . ' ' , ' ' . ' , .<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | badnamesforever | erc9oop | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>Manufacturing textiles will be as ubiquitous as literacy in the future, therefore we should be putting our kids in the factories as soon as they can walk
- Experts^TM ca. 1800<|eor|><|sor|>Gotta learn how to do punchcard programming for those fancy new jaquard looms as soon as possible.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 16 |
programmingcirclejerk | CodeReclaimers | ercc7x8 | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>Coming soon to a workplace near you: people who know how to code almost as well as most coders know how to English.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | VeganVagiVore | erc62zz | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>And just like with literacy many will be able read but not everyone will be able to write. The masses will flock to checkout a thriller or some romance snippets typed by the great artisans from github to read by a fire on a rainy day. The greats will become immortalized not unlike Shakespeare, even garnering their own Jeopardy categories.<|eor|><|sor|>Most people are good at reading individual words but not like a whole page at once. You gotta stretch them open wider first.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | hiptobecubic | erc7wea | <|sols|><|sot|>Almost all experts agree that coding will become nearly as ubiquitous as literacy in the future.<|eot|><|sol|>https://bigthink-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bigthink.com/coding-life-skill-2638845955.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fbigthink.com%2Ftechnology-innovation%2Fcoding-life-skill<|eol|><|sor|>And just like with literacy many will be able read but not everyone will be able to write. The masses will flock to checkout a thriller or some romance snippets typed by the great artisans from github to read by a fire on a rainy day. The greats will become immortalized not unlike Shakespeare, even garnering their own Jeopardy categories.<|eor|><|sor|>Most people are good at reading individual words but not like a whole page at once. You gotta stretch them open wider first.<|eor|><|sor|>Uhh<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | cmov | akahpm | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 132 |
programmingcirclejerk | wubscale | ef32nns | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>Game dev people discovering C++ is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in assembly, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \\\_()_/<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 122 |
programmingcirclejerk | affectation_man | ef358ou | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|> std::sunk_cost<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 101 |
programmingcirclejerk | noogai03 | ef37nih | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>When John Carmack himself applies rubber bands to your jerk and you keep going, you've earned my respect as a fearless warrior<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 84 |
programmingcirclejerk | jeremyjh | ef3pxhf | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>Game dev people discovering C++ is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in assembly, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \\\_()_/<|eor|><|sor|>But does assembly have z e r o c o s t a b s t r a c t i o n s ?<|eor|><|sor|>It has zero abstractions, which is even better.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 78 |
programmingcirclejerk | editor_of_the_beast | ef3n9op | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>> Strong static typing, for examples. One of C++'s staples for a long time. Praised as being great in Rust, yet almost completely ignored in C++.
I too completely ignore the type system of C++ by sticking with the community recommendation of using void * for all of my types.
<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 58 |
programmingcirclejerk | Vaglame | ef3mzpt | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>Game dev people discovering C++ is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in assembly, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \\\_()_/<|eor|><|sor|>But does assembly have z e r o c o s t a b s t r a c t i o n s ?<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 37 |
programmingcirclejerk | KMIAL_reloaded | ef3c50q | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>When John Carmack himself applies rubber bands to your jerk and you keep going, you've earned my respect as a fearless warrior<|eor|><|sor|>>John Carmack
The 90s called, they want their 3D engine programmer back.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 31 |
programmingcirclejerk | SelfDistinction | ef3fj1i | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>But can you do this?
let file = fs::File::open("filename.txt")?;
mem::forget(file);
Can C++ bypass the destructor without doing an allocation? Thought not.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 27 |
programmingcirclejerk | JohnTheScout | ef3qzuw | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>Game dev people discovering C++ is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in assembly, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \\\_()_/<|eor|><|sor|>But does assembly have z e r o c o s t a b s t r a c t i o n s ?<|eor|><|sor|>It has zero abstractions, which is even better.<|eor|><|sor|>Assembly is inherently an abstraction over machine code. Program in 1s and 0s with a magnetic needle and a butterfly wing, or get out of my face you heathen. <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 26 |
programmingcirclejerk | KMIAL_reloaded | ef3c387 | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>>tweeting
That's not possible! Rust has a lot more benefits than fit in 280 characters!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 25 |
programmingcirclejerk | noogai03 | ef3jw86 | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>When John Carmack himself applies rubber bands to your jerk and you keep going, you've earned my respect as a fearless warrior<|eor|><|sor|>>John Carmack
The 90s called, they want their 3D engine programmer back.<|eor|><|sor|>Doesn't get more fearful than fast inverse square root now does it? <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 23 |
programmingcirclejerk | KMIAL_reloaded | ef3rfl1 | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>When John Carmack himself applies rubber bands to your jerk and you keep going, you've earned my respect as a fearless warrior<|eor|><|sor|>>John Carmack
The 90s called, they want their 3D engine programmer back.<|eor|><|sor|>Doesn't get more fearful than fast inverse square root now does it? <|eor|><|sor|>It does when you look at the code a modern compiler generates. Hint: >!aliasing violation!<
And then again [when you find out there's a better magic constant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root#History_and_investigation).
And finally again [when you realize it's slower than conventional floating-point operations](http://assemblyrequired.crashworks.org/timing-square-root/).<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 22 |
programmingcirclejerk | Shikadi297 | ef3kqpn | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>But can you do this?
let file = fs::File::open("filename.txt")?;
mem::forget(file);
Can C++ bypass the destructor without doing an allocation? Thought not.<|eor|><|sor|>Well,
std::aligned_storage_t<sizeof(std::fstream), alignof(std::fstream)> buf;
auto& file = *new (&buf) std::fstream{"filename.txt"};
Is that doing the same thing? <|eor|><|sor|>Hang on, you've got a memory leak. Correct it to
{
std::aligned_storage_t<sizeof(std::fstream), alignof(std::fstream)> buf = new std::fstream{"filename.txt"};
auto& file = *new (&buf) std::fstream{"filename.txt"};
}
delete file;
Now when buf goes out of scope, the destructor gets called before file is destroyed, so you don't end up with a read after write data hazard. Source: I'm an engineer who uses Arch Linux btw<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 21 |
programmingcirclejerk | likes-beans | ef4bk89 | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>> Strong static typing, for examples. One of C++'s staples for a long time. Praised as being great in Rust, yet almost completely ignored in C++.
I too completely ignore the type system of C++ by sticking with the community recommendation of using void * for all of my types.
<|eor|><|sor|>Lol no sum types w/o boost or a new stdlib
*Don't kill me I love cpp*
uj:
Everyone is forgetting rust's real advantage over c++: a build tool that works and that everyone uses (no cmake does not work and not everyone uses it)<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 19 |
programmingcirclejerk | Cakefonz | ef3jdva | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>But can you do this?
let file = fs::File::open("filename.txt")?;
mem::forget(file);
Can C++ bypass the destructor without doing an allocation? Thought not.<|eor|><|sor|>What is `std::abort`<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | Shikadi297 | ef3kd8u | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>When John Carmack himself applies rubber bands to your jerk and you keep going, you've earned my respect as a fearless warrior<|eor|><|sor|>> Coincidentally, I just started writing some rust...
Carmack confirmed morally sound.<|eor|><|sor|>When Carmack talked about that Haskal should have been used more often, I agreed. But this... no, sorry.
​
Here is the problem that I have with Rust: way too much "flexibility" but in the same time a ridiculous hard compiler., and that combined with dozens of features more How the Rust guys ever got into these ideas, dunno.<|eor|><|sor|>Can't jerk because possibly valid reason for someone to dislike Rust, not every language is for everyone<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | scatters | ef3l38b | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>But can you do this?
let file = fs::File::open("filename.txt")?;
mem::forget(file);
Can C++ bypass the destructor without doing an allocation? Thought not.<|eor|><|sor|>Well,
std::aligned_storage_t<sizeof(std::fstream), alignof(std::fstream)> buf;
auto& file = *new (&buf) std::fstream{"filename.txt"};
Is that doing the same thing? <|eor|><|sor|>Hang on, you've got a memory leak. Correct it to
{
std::aligned_storage_t<sizeof(std::fstream), alignof(std::fstream)> buf = new std::fstream{"filename.txt"};
auto& file = *new (&buf) std::fstream{"filename.txt"};
}
delete file;
Now when buf goes out of scope, the destructor gets called before file is destroyed, so you don't end up with a read after write data hazard. Source: I'm an engineer who uses Arch Linux btw<|eor|><|sor|>I thought the memory leak was the whole idea? <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 18 |
programmingcirclejerk | lol-no-monads | ef3dv2k | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>>tweeting
That's not possible! Rust has a lot more benefits than fit in 280 characters!<|eor|><|sor|>Fearless efficiency, zero-overhead shilling, minimal tweet size, ...<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | hedgehog1024 | ef4i11j | <|sols|><|sot|>Game dev people discovering Rust is pure comedy. Tweeting out all the benefits, and I'm like "Yup, all the things you mentioned are also available in C++, and you've been ignoring and criticizing them for years". \_()_/<|eot|><|sol|>https://twitter.com/ArvidGerstmann/status/1089180405645877248<|eol|><|sor|>When John Carmack himself applies rubber bands to your jerk and you keep going, you've earned my respect as a fearless warrior<|eor|><|sor|>> Coincidentally, I just started writing some rust...
Carmack confirmed morally sound.<|eor|><|sor|>When Carmack talked about that Haskal should have been used more often, I agreed. But this... no, sorry.
​
Here is the problem that I have with Rust: way too much "flexibility" but in the same time a ridiculous hard compiler., and that combined with dozens of features more How the Rust guys ever got into these ideas, dunno.<|eor|><|sor|>Can't jerk because possibly valid reason for someone to dislike Rust, not every language is for everyone<|eor|><|sor|>`error[E0133]: posting unjerk is unsafe and requires unjerk comment branch or block`<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 17 |
programmingcirclejerk | momonga | a2b2z9 | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 138 |
programmingcirclejerk | Endzior | eawu6vx | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>Rust the game logo is the new craze around these parts<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 41 |
programmingcirclejerk | MaltersWandler | eax3w7g | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>can't believe they made PCJ into a real thing<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 35 |
programmingcirclejerk | noogai03 | eax0r7q | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>That `lein repl` is as webscale as it gets. <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 15 |
programmingcirclejerk | pcjftw | eax2wiw | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>PCJ is leaking into the real world <|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 14 |
programmingcirclejerk | pingpong | eaxzd1e | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>>Macros
>* They run at compile time
>* There are *no downsides*
> * like at all
> * I promise
> * So make sure to use as many macros as possible
This but unironically<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 13 |
programmingcirclejerk | cs61bredditaccount | eaymda3 | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>Flair request: "Thread first thread last backwards question mark as arrow cond arrow bang"<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 9 |
programmingcirclejerk | lru_skil | eazaoeu | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>> Maybe not.
Glorious. Also
> Old book you never heard of
Reminds me of the clj talk on woodworking.
These coding warrior philosophers are priceless.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 6 |
programmingcirclejerk | raze4daze | eaybkqr | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>That was fucking hilarious.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 6 |
programmingcirclejerk | skulgnome | eaxjo4a | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>It's. Just. Data.<|eor|><|sor|>It's all just electrons.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 6 |
programmingcirclejerk | syndbg | eax1tre | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>They terk er jebs!<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | defunkydrummer | eazb9b1 | <|sols|><|sot|>Clojerked<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPaby7suOc<|eol|><|sor|>`Hipster-driven development` is flair material.
also
lol relieving their pain by making fun of all the bullshit that Clojure forces on them, instead of just using a proper Lisp and achieving awesomeness.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 5 |
programmingcirclejerk | samnardoni | 7y8556 | <|sols|><|sot|>/r/programming == /r/programmingcirclejerk<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7y20rc/go_110_is_released/<|eol|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 138 |
programmingcirclejerk | Clopobec | dueo4fn | <|sols|><|sot|>/r/programming == /r/programmingcirclejerk<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7y20rc/go_110_is_released/<|eol|><|sor|>noob question here but what are minimum standards of knowledge for a competent engineer?<|eor|><|sor|>- blockchain
- live in California
- generics never existed
- a Javascript array is all you need
- NodeJS "asynchronous model on one thread" is the best thing that happened to the world, after MongoDB and cocaine.
- C is like english
You are good to Go.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 74 |
programmingcirclejerk | skulgnome | duee5ag | <|sols|><|sot|>/r/programming == /r/programmingcirclejerk<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7y20rc/go_110_is_released/<|eol|><|sor|>Too much unjerk, and the savages don't even tag it<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 54 |
programmingcirclejerk | HINDBRAIN | dueiy6o | <|sols|><|sot|>/r/programming == /r/programmingcirclejerk<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7y20rc/go_110_is_released/<|eol|><|sor|>> this is why they have a call for proposals for go 2.0.
piped directly into /dev/null<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 45 |
programmingcirclejerk | samnardoni | duej0m2 | <|sols|><|sot|>/r/programming == /r/programmingcirclejerk<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7y20rc/go_110_is_released/<|eol|><|sor|>> this is why they have a call for proposals for go 2.0.
piped directly into /dev/null<|eor|><|soopr|>/dev/nil FTFY<|eoopr|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 41 |
programmingcirclejerk | StallmanTheWrong | duehkts | <|sols|><|sot|>/r/programming == /r/programmingcirclejerk<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7y20rc/go_110_is_released/<|eol|><|sor|>oblig reminder about voting in target threads
but yeah, we're being outjerked.<|eor|><|sor|>Thanks for the reminder, without this I would probably have forgotten to do it.<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 34 |
programmingcirclejerk | Clopobec | duerhz1 | <|sols|><|sot|>/r/programming == /r/programmingcirclejerk<|eot|><|sol|>https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7y20rc/go_110_is_released/<|eol|><|sor|>noob question here but what are minimum standards of knowledge for a competent engineer?<|eor|><|sor|>- blockchain
- live in California
- generics never existed
- a Javascript array is all you need
- NodeJS "asynchronous model on one thread" is the best thing that happened to the world, after MongoDB and cocaine.
- C is like english
You are good to Go.<|eor|><|sor|>You forgot "AI"<|eor|><|sor|>"AI" ? No no no kid, AI is for lisp-dinosaurs. What you refers to is Multi Layered Deep Neural Network Based Machine Learning.
/unjerk
I knew i forgot something !<|eor|><|eols|><|endoftext|> | 29 |
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